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LewyT
02-28-2009, 04:29 AM
Here is a WIP I am wipping on.
feedback...
http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=138849&stc=1

LewyT
03-07-2009, 02:12 AM
ok so no one responded, even with my incredibly witty description, lol.
oh well, here is the current version

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139259&stc=1

DArcy1
03-07-2009, 05:26 AM
Feedback:

Your colors are too saturated, so it looks like kid's poster paint. Tone them down (use photoshop's hue/saturation controls as a quick start)

Draw a proper bridle for the tiger's head - that one will fall off

Give her real armour ,or a bathing suit (this is admittedly a personal thing - metal bikini's are cold and pointless and so cliche's I hate them - so real armour or don't bother at all)

Cheers

D'Arcy

LewyT
03-08-2009, 04:30 AM
Thanks for the input.

I did desaturate it a bit, may need more.
I think my problem with color is in part due to my Cintiq being less bright/contrast than most screens.
colors always look more vibrant on my main screen.

Don't worry, the tiger will have some kind of realistic bridle.
I just haven't done my research on bridles yet to make one look right for a tiger.

I am going to stick with the "cliche" armor.
It's more ceremonial than functional.
Helps with troop morale and all that.

Anyway here is the current version.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139297&stc=1

DArcy1
03-08-2009, 04:50 PM
You might need to get a spyder or something equivalent to color manage your cintinq and/or you main screen - your image should look the same on color managed monitors.
Cheers

D.

LewyT
03-11-2009, 04:07 AM
Thanks Darcy,
I did some research on the spyder.
I had no idea color management was so involved.
I've always just accepted that images might look different on different monitors.
I come from more of a line-art background and color is challenging to me.

anyway, here is the newest pic: close-up of the face.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139438&stc=1

BTW, I finally paid for a full CGS membership.
I consider this piece my flagship work.

DArcy1
03-12-2009, 02:00 AM
Once you get the spyder, the actual process of getting things set up isn't that complicated, unless you intend to print it. The spyder does the calibration itself and photoshop uses the color profile automatically.


Cheers

D.

LewyT
03-17-2009, 04:44 AM
current version


http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139713&stc=1

ROBOTTANK
03-17-2009, 10:33 AM
It might be a bit late to consider, but I'd reposition the saddle, it's too far forward, shes sitting on the tiger's shoulder blades, she looks unbalanced/leaning forward, push the saddle further back. Her leg is kicked up way to high, her positioning doesn't seem natural, and I'd scale her down a tad bit too (this might be a personal choice), just to give the tiger a larger appearance. Lastly, the tiger's left leg does not follow the right perspective, right now it looks like a side profile of it...

slowgolde
03-17-2009, 01:45 PM
Alright Lewy,

You've got some nice details going on and it's looking good, colouring lineart can be quite scary initially. I always find it easier to work my way up rather than start with lineart, but thats just personal pref.

I wouldn't worry too much about the tiny details/closeups until you've got the general level of the image up to a consistent standard- I'd probably put some details into the background before finalising the face. A quick note on colouring, I'd avoid using soft edged brushes as they tend to give it a bit of a mushy feel. I notice you've used hard egded brushes for msot of it, which is good. You can blend those hard edges later with a lower opacity brush. Out of interest, do you have a tablet? The pressure sensitivity is a must really for digital painting, or atleast makes it a lot easier.

Darcy already mentioned saturation, I think at the moment that's the main problem. I did a very quick test and desaturated some elements to give it a bit more depth. I also moved the saddle back as I think robotank is spot on about it looking a bit awkward.

Just as an idea I thought it would be cool if you had a harbour bit with maybe a city across the lake, as if she's travelled home from battle and is rejoining her people. You could even have more warriors boarding boats to go home in the midground. Completely up to you how much you wanted to add, but at the moment the composition feels a bit unbalanced- I find myself asking where is she looking and where might she be going. Perhaps she could be looking into the distance or even making a speech to some more troops..after all we don't want the morale boosting metal-kini going to waste! Did a quick sketch while I ate lunch- hope you don't mind.

Good luck with it :)



http://www.slowgolde.com/imagedump/desat.jpg

LewyT
03-18-2009, 02:53 AM
Thanks for all the feedback.

I agree, the tiger needs to be bigger relative to the rider and that leg has been bothering me too. Tigers aren't really ridable creatures. Their backs aren't strong enough to support any significant weight directly. Placing her weight above the shoulders is intentional. Also the way the warrioress appears to be leaning forward is to compensate for the strong wind she is facing. I might add a billowing cape to highlight the wind as significant to the scene.

I know I still need to tone down the saturation some but it is supposed to be a sunny image; windy and sunny. Not so misty and dark as your modification, Slowgolde. I like the widening of the aspect ratio to take in more landscape. I do think I will move the mountain so it's snow cap doesn't merge with the glint on her poleaxe.

I am using a Wacom Cintiq 12WX. I couldn't consider doing this kind of project without it.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=139800&stc=1

vientjao
03-18-2009, 07:30 PM
Good composition and elements! I like the idea of her riding a tiger. If you still want to keep the sunny idea, I think you could try to choose the "highlights" of the main focus, make that saturated and dim the background for contrast. Good work thus far, keep it up!

LewyT
03-22-2009, 03:23 AM
Newest WIP image.

I have a 25% transparent black gradient layer behind the nearest grass layer.
It fades to 100% transparent for the sky and mountain tops.
I think it's getting close to completion.
Need to work some more on the boat/dock/lake area and maybe add some other warriors as was suggested.
Let me know what y'all think.

3-22 updated pic.
I'm going to call it done unless anyone objects.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=140139&stc=1

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