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Quadart
02-22-2009, 06:16 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/nvart/261352_1235326582/680bound
(http://assets.cgsociety.org/nvart/261352_1235326582/1024bound)Here's my entry, my attempt at a Yerka style inspired surrealist image. Yerka's work is a pleasure to view. To me, it is whimsical and sublime in nature, as well as cleverly designed and composed--as can be seen in his 'visual pun' work. Trying to emulate a well evolved artistic style is a heavy task. I think I touched on it a little bit here. The image was done in PS using some elements modeled and rendered in Cinema 4d. The 3d elements include; the stuff inside the car cab, the owl-things clock face, castle, rear lights and dark-brown structure, compound-eye texture,bugs tongue, red locomotive-thing and the tree leaves. The blue car-thing and reptile parts are all PS painted.

Here’s a HIGHER RES IMAGE (http://billmelvinart.com/client3/figment_billmelvin.jpg)

Quadart
02-22-2009, 06:30 PM
Here are a couple of details:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/bill_77/detail1.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/bill_77/detail2.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/bill_77/dwg.jpg

phoenix1
02-22-2009, 06:36 PM
Hi Bill :)

AWESOME!

Congratulation man :) amazing work indeed
to be honest i was looking forward to see your entry :D

From your comments i knew that you were working in a great work that meet the competition demand.

Like the tongue move by the way, really interesting ;)

cheers!

BadgerPirate
02-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Is that you Yerka?

This is impressive. :applause:

Underhill
02-22-2009, 07:46 PM
If there are no cloud in the sky(maybe only gradient), this image will be perfect!!
because i think it is lack of empty space a bit.
just my opinion
anyway, this is the best one i've seen in this competition
regard .

tiello
02-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Your attempt is amazing, as was to expected. Good Luck!

smiljan66
02-22-2009, 08:18 PM
I im sorry im going to say this is just my opinion and i have to say it because i realize that is the impression im giving for the art , so mate dont be angry .
I think the camera angle is the most good of the scene the moment you capture as well , good color too , good work too but most in 2d wich is fine, but i have to say that has no originality , as you know that yerka in one of his pictures uses the train smoke and it convert into trees , that idea you have there is of yerka , and the other hand w ehave the car that is another idea that yerka , is just the same , so in conclusion the art and work you done is very good i have to say it ,but where is the original part ? the originall have to be all.That idea you put here is not new to me just a little things, so is very good but has no creative part invented by you , remeber is not just the colors light and texture basically is the idea , the creative part of the artist , is the same as yerka but diferent angle of camera , if you use this same technique with a diferent idea that no one put ever and its something new , sorry amazing work but no originality at all.

smiljan66
02-22-2009, 08:39 PM
see for yourself



http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/3/27/785/27785847_JacekYerka.jpg

and...

http://www.agraart.pl/pics/dziela/yerka_album.jpg

see? is just the basic same idea but with other colors and diferent car and diferent trees.
just for look is like a stolen idea of jerka thats why so impressive to me.
but i have to ask why you copy yerkas ideas and do not create something original?

webwings
02-22-2009, 09:13 PM
Excellently presented work.Well done.

IronBrush
02-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Great!!!
Great!!
Great!

guning
02-22-2009, 09:32 PM
A fine work. It is absoluuttinen in the style of Yerka.

skocu
02-22-2009, 10:40 PM
My favorite entry.

rEndeavor
02-22-2009, 10:43 PM
HOLY YERKA!!!

What a knockout punch. I don't remember Yerka using that bright blue color... but damn... it doesn't matter. You've blown my mind, gained my respect, and destroyed my hopeful entry in one post. Everyone here knows how hard it is to to pull this look off... bravo.

p.s. I wish other people understood the challenge better and created Yerka pieces along this line. It is so fun to see a handful of real contenders step up.

SpiralMagus
02-22-2009, 11:54 PM
Very nicely done - you've got the Yerka style and imagery pretty much spot-on!

kennychaffin
02-23-2009, 12:11 AM
Excellent!!

ranggaumbas
02-23-2009, 01:21 AM
woooww... great work man.. love it
you must be yerka..

smiljan66
02-23-2009, 01:49 AM
Hey i think this is outrageus ! and no body tell a thing? i know that the judges will do they must for rightness , how can any stole the idea of the car of yerka that has a tail i post the imegs and you can see it , how is possible soemone stole the yerkas idea of the car and simple change the model of the car and the tail of the animal that ideas is of yerka not ours , is not rare? excuse me but we invented that before yerka?
http://www.agraart.pl/pics/dziela/yerka_album.jpg
it supposo that weu have to create something Not copied by the author , ok is good work , but how can this be true? i dont know why all the people flatter this people dont know? dont see?? people wake up! art is not all color and stuff is originality and creativity please !
is not the same?

and (http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.widelec.org/stuff/jacek_yerka/jacek_yerka_07.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hiroshiges-inferno.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html&usg=__rWKtvK-2lH1ubz74-Zp6wjvUego=&h=594&w=750&sz=133&hl=es&start=36&tbnid=b7ms9-Sst3GRkM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dyerka%26start%3D21%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Des%26sa%3DN) please this too? how can ?
http://shenews.projo.com/07/walkinglesson.jpg
and more...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WqghKZ10m1E/SHPNuPBwbrI/AAAAAAAAAbk/dY8pKemqsao/s1600-h/The+stone+and+brick.jpg

http://fernirosso.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jacek_yerka_sonet_2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VVL8-oluvD4/RzJ-lfbYJvI/AAAAAAAAAGs/f6Xj4vjZ4-4/s320/yerka.jpg


pleasee see this , im very concern about this , so all concursants are very doom and foolish because yes we can take the same idea of yerka and and simple change the color and stuff
and excuse that is permited?

Quadart
02-23-2009, 02:37 AM
Thanks everyone for your comments.

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Hey i think this is outrageus ! and no body tell a thing? i know that the judges will do they must for rightness , how can any stole the idea of the car of yerka that has a tail i post the imegs and you can see it , how is possible soemone stole the yerkas idea of the car and simple change the model of the car and the tail of the animal that ideas is of yerka not ours , is not rare? excuse me but we invented that before yerka?
http://www.agraart.pl/pics/dziela/yerka_album.jpg
it supposo that weu have to create something Not copied by the author , ok is good work , but how can this be true? i dont know why all the people flatter this people dont know? dont see?? people wake up! art is not all color and stuff is originality and creativity please !
is not the same?

and (http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.widelec.org/stuff/jacek_yerka/jacek_yerka_07.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hiroshiges-inferno.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html&usg=__rWKtvK-2lH1ubz74-Zp6wjvUego=&h=594&w=750&sz=133&hl=es&start=36&tbnid=b7ms9-Sst3GRkM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dyerka%26start%3D21%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Des%26sa%3DN) please this too? how can ?
http://shenews.projo.com/07/walkinglesson.jpg
and more...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WqghKZ10m1E/SHPNuPBwbrI/AAAAAAAAAbk/dY8pKemqsao/s1600-h/The+stone+and+brick.jpg

http://fernirosso.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jacek_yerka_sonet_2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VVL8-oluvD4/RzJ-lfbYJvI/AAAAAAAAAGs/f6Xj4vjZ4-4/s320/yerka.jpg


pleasee see this , im very concern about this , so all concursants are very doom and foolish because yes we can take the same idea of yerka and and simple change the color and stuff
and excuse that is permited?

smiljan66–Hey, you’re that post/delete post guy. :rolleyes:

I did not go off totally on my own tangent on this one to try and keep within the perspective of Yerka’s style. What you don’t seem to understand is an artist’s style is not just the technique they use, it is the embodiment of a particular essence, personality and or set of qualities that make a style uniquely their own, which includes the types of things they are inclined to paint. I chose to use one or more of Yerka’s reoccurring themes to keep within his frame of reference, for example Yerka chooses to paint within the framework of the 1950s, so I was not going to create a scene representing my notion of the 3050s. By the way, Yerka did not ‘invent’ the idea of car-creature hybrids and smoke trails morphing into objects, let alone castles, as you chose as your calling-me-out on originality reference links. You cannot label something unique or original just because you, in particular, haven’t seen it before. I’ve seen variations on these themes used many times.
You basically have 2 ways to go with surrealism. One, you can create meaningless, or seemingly meaningless, dream like images that defy logic or you can create images that are mentally engaging and have concrete meaning that still defy logic. Most people do the former, as I did, since I literally did not have the time to develop an interesting and thought provoking (hopefully) concept to design and ‘paint’. That would have been my quest in a second piece after achieving some familiarity with the stylistic mechanics in the first piece.

In the end I don’t expect you to understand any of this.

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Nonetheless, I learned a few things from the project and wish I had time to do another one. I may do more surreal art in the future, though in my style. :)

jsgknight
02-23-2009, 02:44 AM
Apparently this looks too much like Yerka for some people! FYI smiljan66... jealously will get you nowhere!

Anyway Quadart, this is truly fantastic and I am inspired by your talent. My entry pales in comparison and this makes me wonder if I should enter it at all. I will be looking for this in the winners circle. Nice work!

smiljan66
02-23-2009, 04:09 AM
Bla Bla Bla is a copy of something that is already invented , and the guy that you copy from was yerka himself you can copy any other but not yerka , i just say that is a copy nothing will change that and ou can see it by the pictures i post the trtuh is in front of your eyes blind!!!

any one can say that it is jsut the same as the pictures i have posted , and i have nothing to envi you im creative and original , and you uut seem that you dont have that sorry copymaker jaja , sorry for you your mynd dosent get much further that taht soemthing that has been already invented , if you are so good as you think make something original pal !!!

and dont worry the thing taht i think the judges will realize that point to and give you minus--- points , but see if you win a dont give a dam so good luck to you too!:applause:

TimSchuhler
02-23-2009, 04:22 AM
Awesome!

That's all I can say.

LefTerris
02-23-2009, 08:50 AM
WOOOWW....Well it's just perfect!!:cool:
But i think they say that we will make our own dreams and ideas
in the style of Yerka and not reproducing anything.Most people here was trying
to do this and it's not fare.:hmm:But im not here to judge and i'm jealous of course!:p
Best wishes man this is a masterpiece from a master like you!!:deal:

Quadart
02-23-2009, 01:23 PM
WOOOWW....Well it's just perfect!!:cool:
But i think they say that we will make our own dreams and ideas
in the style of Yerka and not reproducing anything.Most people here was trying
to do this and it's not fare.:hmm:But im not here to judge and i'm jealous of course!:p
Best wishes man this is a masterpiece from a master like you!!:deal:
Thanks for the complement.

I think I explained my intentions in my previous post clearly enough. Maybe not.

What exactly did I reproduce? Using a common theme and reproducing a specific item are not the same thing, though I can see how some may confuse the two.

From the same simple view point as the one you and someone else adopted, I could point out that in your piece Tired Tree (the one piece of yours that is somewhat reminiscent of Yerka), the thing that makes it Yerka-esk is the fact that you used a very common subject that Yerka uses in a lot of his work, namely a tree with building structures in it. Haven’t you noticed? I see clouds morphing into recognizable things, which Yerka used in one my favorite works of his. I have no problem with that. I condone it for strategic reasons.

Unless you are doing a large body of work in the style of another artist (not just one image) I would strongly suggest using any common theme that the artist uses often in their work to stay on track with how that person works and to express what is thematically important to that person, as well as to create familiarity. In this case, I would argue that it’s not about you, it’s about trying to get into the head of the artist you are emulating. That does not mean plagiarizing the artist. Create your own original twist–as I have.

I do acknowledge that my piece is not the pinnacle of creative departure. Most of my energy, with the time allotted, was spent on stylistic similarity. This challenge was more of a personal project with a specific technical goal in mind then trying to win a creativity contest. I’ll address that in another challenge.

– There are some that confuse originality with being different for difference sake. Unfortunately generic surrealism attracts many people who tend to mistake creativity for chaos, and the neglect of basic artistic principles.

BaronImpossible
02-23-2009, 01:34 PM
Great work, love it. Very much in JY's style. My only crit is perhaps the blue is too vivid but having said that it does provide a good focus :thumbsup: Best so far!

(although next time you'd do better to listen to real experts like smiljan66 - NOT! :D)

radoxist
02-23-2009, 01:47 PM
Really a nice one! Very creative......and dont reply to peaople like smiljan66 ! They should be ignored.

Quadart
02-23-2009, 01:50 PM
Great work, love it. Very much in JY's style. My only crit is perhaps the blue is too vivid but having said that it does provide a good focus :thumbsup: Best so far!

(although next time you'd do better to listen to real experts like smiljan66 - NOT! :D)
Yeah, the blue is a stretch, but I wanted an odd paint color and that blue-green, for me, is the signature color of the 1950s. I think my crib was that color [joke]. :cry: I actually based the color scheme of the entire piece around that color choice.

This contest is very interesting on many levels. :surprised

Quadart
02-23-2009, 01:53 PM
......and dont reply to peaople like smiljan66 ! They should be ignored.
You’re right.
Apparently I still have some growing up to do too. :D

zzzak
02-23-2009, 02:29 PM
I think you've done an amazing job at capturing the spirit of Yerka's work here. Aside from having a great composition and interesting surreal elements, your attention detail is what really made this one stand out to me... it's a beautiful piece!

LefTerris
02-23-2009, 02:56 PM
I understood you in the first place.:)
Reproducing it's not the trees,buildings or clouds with fanny shapes somebody will make, because there are not elements that only Yerka make.
Reproducing in my opinion is structures and artistic ideas that remaineds or is similar to Yerka's .The car like croco ,the smoke turn into trees ,
bird with a clockhead and machine in the back that is hafe alive.These are 100% Yerka(Maybe that's the point!)
You've done it as a strategy you said ,respected.Me too!
You were right this challenge is mostly technical than conceptual.You are 100% for me in the technic :bowdown:and i think this is that matters the most in this competition.I said those thinks before with good intensions just for fareness(If this word exist,lol!).
I'll glade to see you in the winners.Cheers!:beer:


p.s. Sorry for my english.

dirtyBlender
02-23-2009, 06:04 PM
Hey i think this is outrageus ! and no body tell a thing? i know that the judges will do they must for rightness , how can any stole the idea of the car of yerka that has a tail i post the imegs and you can see it , how is possible soemone stole the yerkas idea of the car and simple change the model of the car and the tail of the animal that ideas is of yerka not ours , is not rare? excuse me but we invented that before yerka?
http://www.agraart.pl/pics/dziela/yerka_album.jpg
it supposo that weu have to create something Not copied by the author , ok is good work , but how can this be true? i dont know why all the people flatter this people dont know? dont see?? people wake up! art is not all color and stuff is originality and creativity please !
is not the same?

and (http://images.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.widelec.org/stuff/jacek_yerka/jacek_yerka_07.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hiroshiges-inferno.blogspot.com/2007_01_01_archive.html&usg=__rWKtvK-2lH1ubz74-Zp6wjvUego=&h=594&w=750&sz=133&hl=es&start=36&tbnid=b7ms9-Sst3GRkM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dyerka%26start%3D21%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Des%26sa%3DN) please this too? how can ?
http://shenews.projo.com/07/walkinglesson.jpg
and more...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WqghKZ10m1E/SHPNuPBwbrI/AAAAAAAAAbk/dY8pKemqsao/s1600-h/The+stone+and+brick.jpg

http://fernirosso.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jacek_yerka_sonet_2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VVL8-oluvD4/RzJ-lfbYJvI/AAAAAAAAAGs/f6Xj4vjZ4-4/s320/yerka.jpg


pleasee see this , im very concern about this , so all concursants are very doom and foolish because yes we can take the same idea of yerka and and simple change the color and stuff
and excuse that is permited?

Uh, Smigin... maybe you need to read the NVArt "Surreal: In the Style of Jacek Yerka" contest INTRODUCTION (http://events.cgsociety.org/NVArt/04/index.php) and INSPIRATION & TECHNICAL GUIDE (http://events.cgsociety.org/NVArt/04/inspiration.php) once again. I think you have it completely assbackward. The object is to attempt a Jacek Yerka work... to make an image that Jacek would possibly make. Yes... you should use some imagination... but you should also take from Yerka's style. You do know he uses many of his themes over and over. Try to incorporate some of them... when you make a tree, make a Yerka tree... when you make a cloud, make a Yerka cloud, when you choose a color, choose a Yerka color. Get it?

...and lighten up, dude.

inky2
02-23-2009, 07:51 PM
interesting work with great details and sence of humour :thumbsup:

Creeto
02-24-2009, 01:17 PM
not very original but very well executed :thumbsup:

dodgeOrBURN
02-24-2009, 10:08 PM
This is a really charged thread, but what is great art without a little controversy? I would believe that Yerka, himself painted this! Since the challenge was to paint in someone else's style, you have achieved this brilliantly!

Congratulations! :bowdown:

shehanRN
02-25-2009, 12:27 PM
Great work! Really like the concept, color combination and also the details of the car.
Wish you all the best!!

radkrish
02-25-2009, 02:09 PM
Is that you Yerka?

This is impressive. :applause:

me too.Great Work!.

dreif
02-26-2009, 01:35 AM
Yes, technically very good but I must agree with smilijan66.

Quadart
02-26-2009, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the continued feedback everyone, and I do mean everyone. ;)

DodgeOrBURN–Thanks for the comments. Yes, this thread got a little warm around the edges. Another thing I like about this site is the wide spectrum of folks, from amateurs to pros, posting their work and opinions in this great pool. As far as the originality controversy goes, I suppose if I, instead, put a tortoise shell on the bug-gators back and made the tree canopy morph into a serpent gliding through the air turning back to grab the unwitting bird-thing, with a purple mohawked tarsier’s head instead of a clock face, that would satisfy the sophomoric criteria for originality.

FedericoBoraso
02-27-2009, 02:10 PM
Well really Yerka style so i the colors and style! noudoubt great tecnique!! mabe too Yerka the draw, but anyway great job!!!

JM-art
02-28-2009, 04:56 AM
Hi, excelent work, i think your work will be somewhere in the first places, if not the winner.

Cheers.

mihaszna
02-28-2009, 12:00 PM
This is the closest to yerka's style till now. Even if the color of the car is not really part of his palette, it made good for the composition.

Quadart
02-28-2009, 07:41 PM
FedericoBoraso–Thanks.

JMART–It ain’t over ‘til it’s over. There’s some really nice stuff here with more coming in over the next couple of days I'm sure. Thanks for the comments.
I wish everyone the best.

Mihaszna–Thanks for the compliment.
I think the blue-green car color is fine. Coming from a tradition illustration background, I’m sure Yerka has Pthalo green and blue (or the equivalent) tubes of paint in his paintbox and has used them often, as I’ve seen in quite a few of the 150+ samples of his work I’ve collected from searches–in varying degrees of repro quality (mostly bad). JY does not use a specific limited palette throughout his paintings (as some artists do). He limits his palette to varying degrees per painting, ranging from saturated primary color combos (in what I think is earlier work) to almost monotone desaturated palettes, in comparison. He, quite often, restricts color range to tints and tones of a particular color when rending an object of a predominant color, limiting or avoiding the mingling of adjacent or complementary hues in those areas. This gives his work part of its charm and general sense of limited palette.

terrifortino
03-01-2009, 12:59 AM
I'll give you the price now if I'm the judge..:thumbsup: good luck.

kenan-M-Atassi
03-01-2009, 05:00 AM
great imagination I love the details and the colors it's very Yerka's

good luck;)

Adhinug
03-01-2009, 03:33 PM
whoa! beautiful, mate.. great artwork. :bowdown:
and i totally agree with you :thumbsup:

good luck!

Quadart
03-02-2009, 03:39 AM
Thanks for the comments guys.

Quadart
03-03-2009, 05:20 PM
Here’s a HIGHER RES IMAGE (http://billmelvinart.com/client3/figment_billmelvin.jpg)

gedomenas
03-03-2009, 05:44 PM
This is really Great Work!
Good luck!

Quadart
03-07-2009, 10:44 AM
Thanks for the compliment.

PELENG
03-07-2009, 03:57 PM
Great work, Quadart!
I like how you made all ground with castle. field, leaves and grass.
Good luck to you!

Photobug2010
03-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Wow! This very good. I like how you make tree-worm. Small detail so perfect.

Subi3d
03-09-2009, 09:43 AM
This is great..!!

PerryE
03-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Fantastic Work! You captured his style perfectly. :applause:

Quadart
03-11-2009, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

PELENG
04-29-2009, 07:20 PM
Greetings, Bill!
The challenge is over for now. You have very strong entry. Honestly I expected to see you among winners. Anyway it was a great training, isn't it? :)
Good luck!

smiljan66
04-29-2009, 08:28 PM
What ?you even get to the winners or spetial mentions , impossible!!
well i think copy is not good sorry pal meaby next time , mebay next time you will be more original.
By the way i didnt get to the winners too , but im ok with that , what a surprise dude ! what a surprise , evry one tough that you will win , so evryboy has to analize better the work ,
i told ou but im happy the judges make justice , but , i dont get it too , why the others win and they take jerkas idea too , as just the same as yerka ,a nd didnt put some originality in their work i think this contest sucks , no originality at all !!!

Quadart
04-29-2009, 09:03 PM
Greetings, Bill!
The challenge is over for now. You have very strong entry. Honestly I expected to see you among winners. Anyway it was a great training, isn't it? :)
Good luck!
I guess the judges just didn’t like me. :sad: No really, there were a lot of very nice pieces entered, yours included--which I thought was a prime candidate for a top spot. I’m sure the judges must have had a heck of time deciding on the winners among all the great entries.
It was fun and a learning experience trying to get into the head of another artist and work in that person’s well developed style. After looking at the 150 or so samples of Yerka’s work I collected, over and over again, I became a big fan of his.

I’d like to know if Jacek Yerka ever had time to see all the works done here, dedicated to his unique stylistic vision, and to know what he thinks of it all.

—to another day, another challenge. :)

Thanks for the reply Sergey.

smiljan66
04-29-2009, 09:08 PM
Yea it sucks!!

Quadart
04-29-2009, 10:25 PM
What ?you even get to the winners or spetial mentions , impossible!!
well i think copy is not good sorry pal meaby next time , mebay next time you will be more original.
By the way i didnt get to the winners too , but im ok with that , what a surprise dude ! what a surprise , evry one tough that you will win , so evryboy has to analize better the work ,
i told ou but im happy the judges make justice , but , i dont get it too , why the others win and they take jerkas idea too , as just the same as yerka ,a nd didnt put some originality in their work i think this contest sucks , no originality at all !!!

Hey, I’ve got a great idea!



Rant on your thread.

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Where’s that fly swatter!

Intervain
04-30-2009, 12:55 AM
WOW great job Bill! Awesome ideas and it's so clean!!

Quadart
04-30-2009, 11:18 AM
Thanks so much for the compliments Magdalena.

JM-art
04-30-2009, 05:22 PM
i cant believe that your entry doesnt have a mention at least, i will not say that isnt fair because i lack the experience that judges have, i totaly respect them and the artist that had been choosen...just wanted to say that you did a impresive, brillant work...for me your entry and "time" are the more memorable pieces of the competition.

keep the good work.

Quadart
05-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Juan, thanks for the compliment.

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