2nd Transformers 2 Trailer Hits The Web

[roadRUNN3R]

oh god, i can't wait for this xD

[angel]

Can't wait to see the HD version of that trailer...

[John-S]

:applause:

thanks for posting that was awesome! Looking forward to the HD version : )

[mr_carl]

Awesome...

[Boone]

I cant wait.

[Daniel-B]

AWESOME!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/PixelMagic/2hyjknq.gif

:D

[thedd]

****ing Epic!!

[mistrrhappy]

Who is the ILM VFX supervisor on this one?

[MAK]

Hopefully there's some ILM guys reading this thread...
What the hell did you do with the Paris Shots?
The Eiffel Tower is obviously not at the right place! Do you really think that international viewers are not going to notice??
See here : http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=09765_ILM_122_207lo.JPG

:banghead:

Atleast they got it right in the G.I.JOe trailer...:surprised

[playmesumch00ns]

It's called composition and storytelling.

[MAK]

It's called composition and storytelling.

Misplacing the most visited monument in the world isn't what I would call good storytelling..in a movie supposed to happen at present time..IMO

[nemoo]

The Eiffel Tower is obviously not at the right place! Do you really think that international viewers are not going to notice??


Why should anybody care? Its a movie! Not a documentary.

[JoshBowman]

So I guess in Transformers 3 when Bay moves the Statue of Liberty to San Francisco that's okay then because it's just a movie and it's all for making the story better.

Or on the local front, moving Ayers rock to just outside Sydney because they're the only 2 landmarks foreigners recognise as Australian (sarcastic generalisation)

[P_T]

Pure action, just the way it should be.

It's called composition and storytelling.Oh I don't know, I thought the tower was unnecessary. They might've put it there just to say "here's Paris" but it's only the top half and it went so quick I didn't even notice it was the Eiffel tower the first time around. Europeans would probably notice the discrepancy easily too so why bother? A whole lot of compositing work for nothing.

[BookMansBlues]

MAK, I think your first mistake was believing that anyone at ILM or any other VFX house would be responsible.



I say take your complaints to Bay, since he's the director and was probably the guy who told people to put it there, anyone else was probably just doing thier job.


there is also a good possibillity that that shot was done at DD, Bay does own it now (or is part of a conglomerate that does).

[ThirdEye]

It's called composition and storytelling.

you mean there's actually a good reason?

[Teyon]

No one complained when they got Harlem wrong in the Incredible Hulk - The Apollo theater looks a wee bit different and is surrounded by different buildings than in reality0 (it's clear that was just a set). Things like this get changed in a film all the time either due to the inability to get the rights to shoot near the landmark, or because it's too costly to do so. Sometimes it's just cheaper to throw it in after the fact. I have no idea what the entire scene is like but if they never show the viewer landmarks, it's easy to forget where something is supposed to be taking place. I admit, it would be nice if they tried to get the landmarks more accurate but that's not always possible or financially viable at the time.

[BookMansBlues]

I have to admit that the cloverfeild poster seemed to have the satue of liberty facing the wrong way (looks like she's facing inland) had me slightly miffed but I forgave after I saw the movie because the movie was a fun one to see in the theaters because the sound design was so well done. watching it at home will never be the same experiance for me.

so I can understand people in france being miffed by thier most visable and reconizable landmark being moved around. I don't persoanlly care, but i'm not french (not even a little... :) ) but I can atleast understand it.

the shot does look pretty dammed cool though. :D

[thethule]

No one complained when they got Harlem wrong in the Incredible Hulk - The Apollo theater looks a wee bit different and is surrounded by different buildings than in reality0 (it's clear that was just a set). Things like this get changed in a film all the time either due to the inability to get the rights to shoot near the landmark, or because it's too costly to do so. Sometimes it's just cheaper to throw it in after the fact. I have no idea what the entire scene is like but if they never show the viewer landmarks, it's easy to forget where something is supposed to be taking place. I admit, it would be nice if they tried to get the landmarks more accurate but that's not always possible or financially viable at the time.


I agree.

Though Harlem is hardly the eiffel tower...lol.

Either way this is a M.Bay film. Therefore the audience will be spoon....fed...every...detail.
Here is France, see the berets and the eiffel tower. Here is London, see the Red buses, black cabs and the London Eye. Here is Morocco, see the funny people with market stalls...etc etc...(thats a joke, please dont kill me..)

It doesnt bug me, but i wish that film directors would have a bit more respect for their audiences intelligence sometimes...

Marc

[aghill]

Hm.. This trailer is really bad. Alot of nicely executed vfx shots, in an absolutely stupid context. Its just stupid. I must confess, I hate the transformers concept, so im absolutely biased, but this trailer is just crap! This movie is about stupid robots and closeups of young american actors?

I think the vfx shots is too much over the top. Like the robot designs - its all over the place. Its like eating caviar each day for a month. Even thought its supposed to be the best, it gets boring! Like the first Transformers movie.

Maybe its just me.

[JoshBowman]

Maybe its just me.

Yep. :thumbsup:

How do you propose turning a cartoons series that's all about robots fighting and turn it into a movie series that's anything other than robots fighting and still stay true to the original?

Maybe Optimus should have a love interest in the 3rd film and crank out a couple of robot kids and they can all go on a wild rollercoaster adventure where the kids have to save the day because their parents have been kidnapped by an evil organisation dubbed SPUTNIK :banghead:

[mr_carl]

Hm.. This trailer is really bad. Alot of nicely executed vfx shots, in an absolutely stupid context. Its just stupid. I must confess, I hate the transformers concept, so im absolutely biased, but this trailer is just crap! This movie is about stupid robots and closeups of young american actors?

I think the vfx shots is too much over the top.

You just mentioned everything that makes the movie GREAT, a Closeup of Megan Fox is never a bad thing, and big robots is awesome just AWESOME.

[mrpeace]

Amazing...truly Amazing can't wait 4 this one!!! And the problem of monuments in movies? is that fight worth it. All that matters is the end product...What Mr.Bay gives the audience...

[switchblade327]

Not my cup of tea but I'd like to thank Mr. Bay for keeping what must be an obscene number of digital artists employed.

[ThirdEye]

I agree.

Though Harlem is hardly the eiffel tower...lol.

Either way this is a M.Bay film. Therefore the audience will be spoon....fed...every...detail.
Here is France, see the berets and the eiffel tower. Here is London, see the Red buses, black cabs and the London Eye. Here is Morocco, see the funny people with market stalls...etc etc...(thats a joke, please dont kill me..)

It doesnt bug me, but i wish that film directors would have a bit more respect for their audiences intelligence sometimes...

Marc

Hahaha great post man!

[ThirdEye]

Maybe its just me.

You're not alone, don't worry, i thought the first one was atrocious, but as someone else said at least they're keeping a lot of artists employed.

[khendar]

Hopefully there's some ILM guys reading this thread...
What the hell did you do with the Paris Shots?
The Eiffel Tower is obviously not at the right place! Do you really think that international viewers are not going to notice??
See here : http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=09765_ILM_122_207lo.JPG

:banghead:

Atleast they got it right in the G.I.JOe trailer...:surprised

Its a film about gigantic talking transforming robots from space...and you're worried that the realism might be destroyed by some out of whack geography ??

[ThirdEye]

Its a film about gigantic talking transforming robots from space...and you're worried that the realism might be destroyed by some out of whack geography ??

Well, Gladiator wasn't exactly a documentary either, but the fact matte painters left a Renaissance church in the landscape and forgot to get rid of it made me cringe anyway.

[JoshBowman]

Well, Gladiator wasn't exactly a documentary either, but the fact matte painters left a Renaissance church in the landscape and forgot to get rid of it made me cringe anyway.

HAHA! serious! "it's really old so it must have been around back then"

[switchblade327]

Its a film about gigantic talking transforming robots from space...and you're worried that the realism might be destroyed by some out of whack geography ??

It's a film about hobbits, one-rings and magic and you're worried about a car driving past in the background? Maybe it's a magic car! It doesn't break immersion one bit.

No, filmmakers never make mistakes. It's always a deliberate decision for sake of storytelling.

[khendar]

It's a film about hobbits, one-rings and magic and you're worried about a car driving past in the background? Maybe it's a magic car! It doesn't break immersion one bit.

No, filmmakers never make mistakes. It's always a deliberate decision for sake of storytelling.

Now that's just reductio ad absurdum :) Of course a car in a fantasy film would be ridiculous. But tinkering slightly with the layout of a city isn't that big a deal.

For all we know Transformers is set in a parallel universe in which Paris is laid out slightly differently. Its a sci-fi action film, turn off the left brain for a couple of hours and enjoy the explosions.

[mullet]

michael bay: splosions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRS90V8BQGo

[switchblade327]

Now that's just reductio ad absurdum :) Of course a car in a fantasy film would be ridiculous. But tinkering slightly with the layout of a city isn't that big a deal.


Now that's just pretentious to start using Latin, especially in a thread about Transformers :P

Obviously the French agree. The standards of 'ridiculous' are pretty subjective but perceptions being what they are, when the most gung ho of American Directors moves the Eiffel Tower for a shot it's more likely to be perceived as "F you guys" then it is as a legitimate artistic decision.

[Ruairi_Robinson]

Why should anybody care? Its a movie! Not a documentary.

"It's just a movie" has never been and never will be a good excuse for bad storytelling.

[Seven]

Storytelling, plot or character arnt in Michael Bays dictionary. The man just hasnt got a clue.

[Pentagramma]

Michael Bay is the kind of director who can´t show two people talking in a room in France without showing them eating a baguette and with the Eiffel Tower out of the window . If someday he makes something in Brazil I´m sure he´ll show samba-dancing monkeys.

Actually, my love for his films is very close to my love for having my nails plucked out with hot pincers, but like somebody said at least the FX are cool and he employs one bazillion CG artists in the process of making them, so "go bay go!" , etc.

[ThirdEye]

Michael Bay is the kind of director who can´t show two people talking in a room in France without showing them eating a baguette and with the Eiffel Tower out of the window . If someday he makes something in Brazil I´m sure he´ll show samba-dancing monkeys.

You forgot playing football on the beach.

[jbradley]

I'm not 100% certain, but it looks like Paramount stepped up and stuck to their Monday deadline to post the new HD trailers.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/trailer

[gingamonkey]

For those with firewall issues, stuck at work:

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297347&sdm=web&pt=rd)
720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297344&sdm=web&pt=rd)
480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297343&sdm=web&pt=rd)

Enjoy (the CG)!

[Airflow]

I love him and his films. Ritalin directors need love too right.

[Grrrrrrr]

Wow. Loved the trailer. Can't wait. Action action action. :bounce:

[Antropus]

Enjoy (the CG)!
QFA...
after all, this is a CG forum, right? :)

[KaDDD]

:) too fun !

[RobW720]

maybe the tower is actually a giant transformer...

yeah... now whos the jackass director, he just schooled you guys! Thats some good story telling right there, it turns up in the 3rd act to save the Autobots who are loosing the battle... KABOOOOM GIANT EIFLEBOT KA FWOOOSH BEW BEW RATTATATAAT

and they win the day.

so THATS why you see it in the wrong spot... its just waiting.

[ThirdEye]

maybe the tower is actually a giant transformer...

I seriously hope not.

[RobW720]

shoot, how long had megatron been held up on earth? the tower is just like.... the tip of a giant underground transformer iceberg!

[TFULLER]

freakin awesome! cant wait.

[kelgy]

I think its actually an alien acoustic guitar. At the end a giant transformer will jump out of the earth, crush the decepticons, then grab it and play a guitar solo rendition of Revolucian's Bale Out on the banks of the Seine.

[aghill]

...EIFLEBOT...

Dude. Stop it. Michael Bay might read through these forums. Dont give him idea's like that!

[switchblade327]

I am not a huge Michael Bay fan but if someone can guarantee me an Eiffel Tower-bot then I will be there opening day.

[RobW720]

Dude. Stop it. Michael Bay might read through these forums. Dont give him idea's like that!

Oh, I hope he does. You don't understand.... I Need A Giant Eiffel Tower Robot. Capital Letters At The Start Of Every Word For A Reason!!! Sweet Insect Jesus!

...It would be glorious. Camera zip zooming around willey nilley so you can hardly see the Eiffelbot fighting the giant wheel thing from the trailer...

willikers...

[Papa Lazarou]

"It's just a movie" has never been and never will be a good excuse for bad storytelling.

#1, the point was it's not fact, it's fiction.

#2, Whether factual misrepresentation in a movie constitutes bad storytelling or artistic license is what's up for debate.

[WyattHarris]

It's a film about hobbits, one-rings and magic and you're worried about a car driving past in the background? Maybe it's a magic car! It doesn't break immersion one bit.

No, filmmakers never make mistakes. It's always a deliberate decision for sake of storytelling.
My personal favorite is being able to drive out of New Orleans in any direction and immediately hitting bayou's.

[Shletten]

Such a debate for such a little matter... I can't care any less.

Seriously, I can't wait to watch this movie! It looks intense. If it is as serious as it seems and there is no more cheesy humor then it will be excellent.

ILM are killers, I can't figure out how they do such amazing visual effects!

[nickmarshallvfx]

To be fair to Bay, this is just the trailer, and things can change from trailer to movie (Cloverfield anyone?), so i can fogive him for changing a landmarks position just to quickly show an audience in one shot that we are in Paris. After all, he gets mega criticised for his 'America is what matters so ill make everything happen in America to Americans' attitude, so at least he's suggesting that the rest of the world might have some minor importance in the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it storylines.

Personally, i loved Transformers 1, coz it was such an easy movie to watch. There were major issues if you think too hard, but come on, everyone should know by now that you NEVER go into a Michael Bay movie if you want a deep intellectual experience.

So yea, moving the Eiffel Tower in that one shot in the trailer is forgivable. He has 3 seconds to say 'Paris' to the audience, and he did that by having a couple of landmarks in one geographically inaccurate shot. Fine. If it continues into the movie, then get your pitchforks ready and we'll go on a Bay hunt.

Nick

[kelgy]

No summer fx movie offers a deep intellectual experience.

Bay just lowers the bar for them.

I'll save my pitchfork for the writers though. I dont want them to miss out on the fun!

[switchblade327]

After all, he gets mega criticised for his 'America is what matters so ill make everything happen in America to Americans' attitude, so at least he's suggesting that the rest of the world might have some minor importance in the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it storylines.


Actually, I'm pretty sure he wasted Paris with a meteor in "Armageddon" too but I might have my asteroid movies confused.

[nickmarshallvfx]

Actually, I'm pretty sure he wasted Paris with a meteor in "Armageddon" too but I might have my asteroid movies confused.

Haha, ok in that case i stand corrected. Either way, i dont think anyone has ever accused Michael Bay of being multi-culturally appreciative :P

Anyway, i enjoy Bay movies for what they are, so ill be at the Cinema with my bag of popcorn when Transformers 2 comes out :)

Nick

[drawallday]

I always envisioned that TF2 would take place mostly in outer space? That would be cool yet overwhelming for the casual audience.

[AdamHerbert]

For those with firewall issues, stuck at work:

1080p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297347&sdm=web&pt=rd)
720p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297344&sdm=web&pt=rd)
480p (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=80297343&sdm=web&pt=rd)

Enjoy (the CG)!

Ha! Perfect! Thank you Gingamonkey!

[snku]

Hopefully there's some ILM guys reading this thread...
What the hell did you do with the Paris Shots?
The Eiffel Tower is obviously not at the right place! Do you really think that international viewers are not going to notice??
See here : http://img244.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=09765_ILM_122_207lo.JPG

:banghead:

Atleast they got it right in the G.I.JOe trailer...:surprised

you people are so weird.

[switchblade327]

I always envisioned that TF2 would take place mostly in outer space? That would be cool yet overwhelming for the casual audience.

Yeah, Megan Fox would look really hot in one of these:
http://www.solarnavigator.net/aviation_and_space_travel/aviation_space_images/astronaut_free_flight_above_earth.jpg

[drawallday]

Yeah, Megan Fox would look really hot in one of these:
http://www.solarnavigator.net/aviation_and_space_travel/aviation_space_images/astronaut_free_flight_above_earth.jpg

LOL... maybe this will work out a bit better?:
http://theprettiestofall.pulsing-starlight.net/padme_war.jpg (http://theprettiestofall.pulsing-starlight.net/padme_war.jpg)

[AdamHerbert]

you people are so weird.

Hahaha, couldn't have put it better myself.

[Memorist]

All i got to say is it looks epic and i can't wait.
I wish i could sit with one of the animators and just watch him do a transform ans step through the transofrmation.

:thumbsup:

[nitrocom]

All i got to say is it looks epic and i can't wait.
I wish i could sit with one of the animators and just watch him do a transform ans step through the transofrmation.

I wish I have this chance, too! but they'll never let us do that :)

[Memorist]

I wouldn't think so.

It still would be nice. But i've heard that it's a script so they only really would have done it once and the rest of the animator more than likely just had a slider or something along those lines.

[gdavisiv]

:drool:

Need I say more??

[AOG]

I can't wait for this one, it will undoubtedly be much better than the first one (which is already beyond perfect), and I'm sure there will be lots of surprises hidden somewhere. :D
Anyone know where it'll be show in Australia?

[mick8]

I can't wait for this one, it will undoubtedly be much better than the first one (which is already beyond perfect), and I'm sure there will be lots of surprises hidden somewhere. :D
Anyone know where it'll be show in Australia?


at the cinema probably

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