Spear Dance, Veronica Purpura (2D)

[Gintonio]

Well you really improved since your last image ;) Well there are some things in your piece that bothers me a bit. First of all I'm not sure what is the direction of the light, I mean that the rock with a face is casting its shadow very directionaly and other objects dont. Also if light is falling from back there should be a highlighted outline on her siluete. Also her hair and fur on spears could face a bit diferent directions and show movement, cause they are frozen in an unnatural pose at the moment. However I like her face very much, the emotion i very well captured ;)

P.S. sorry for my far-from-OK english ;)

[waheednasir]

hi Veronica, i think uve done a nice job but ofcourse it has some areas that can be improved, just like with anyother work we see here...:).
most importantly light and its direction, everything except the girl shows that the light is from behind (seeing their shadows) and if u keep the light source at the back then u have to make the areas facing us, darker, as they are lit from behind. so thats a tricky situation to handle. you can further play with tones and colors to introduce more depth. make the girl have have the strongest tonal contrast within herself and if compared to the rest of the objects so she stands out strongly.
lastly, the perspective of the floor seems to be little off if i see the girl, i might brind the horizon line little lower to adjust that.
a friendly tip...:). the background pillar at left (our left) and the sculpted face infront of it, their edges meet perfectly, try to avoid this situation, u can make the face overlap the pillar or have some gap between them. not good to make the edges meet. similarly, the girl's breast and the pillar at right.

its a nice progress and thats the reason im encouraged to give u my humble opinion...:). hope that helps a little.

best wishes.

[Malja]

It looks like manipulated and overpainted photo, especially the face, hand and toes. You also used photographs on the pillars, didn`t you.

[linainverse23]

Thank you so much for the thorough response. That was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping for. I really debated about the shadow on the stone face, because I was afraid to cast too much of it into shadow. You could be right about the blades. I'll work on them and see how they turn out. I'll try to make a lighter sky around the upper left to help show a higher light source. I don't want too much shadow, but I want to indicate the light source (I was aiming for a early/mid afternoon look). I even looked at pictures of afternoon skies to help with the coloration of the sky, since the sun is above the border of the image, so you can't see where it is. I'll try to make it clearer.

[linainverse23]

Thanks Waheednasir. I was edgy about the pillar position myself. I thought originally that is was just my rendation of the cylcindrical shape of the pillar, so I made it stronger. I'll see what I can do to follow your advice. I don't want too much shadow on the girl, so maybe I'll just change the light source entirely to late morning and re-manipulate the cast shadows to be slightly behind her, but not as far-reaching like the current ones. Now that I look at it from your guys perspective, I see that although the shadows look ok for the ruins, it doesn't work for I had in mind for the girl. Thank you very much for the comments. I'll get to work on this as soon as possible. By the way, I saw your latest piece with the three boats at the waters' shore. I like it. I like the other two better, but this one has that unqiue charm you add to your paintings. When I visits the forums again I'll add more details.

[linainverse23]

Hello Malja. Yes I was painting over a photo (I used myself as the model). I was having trouble indicating the areas of shade and value for the skin tones, especially the face. There were some modifications (I'm not that muscular) and I ended up overpainting over the original photo. With the costume and the over painting, there isn't really a photo remain anymore. The columns aren't from photos, but the design engraved on the pillars was used and painted from a reference photo.

[kennychaffin]

Wonderful job!

[DArcy1]

Hi

My best piece of advice is to decide up front how detailed you want a a painting to be and keep at it until it's consistent. You have obviously spent a LOT of time on the skin, and your effort definitely shows. You've got some nice tonal variation and the skin looks *real*. But it looks rather like your kid sister took 5 minutes and painted clothes on top of your nice figure :eek: So it ends up jarring to the eyes.
Post your next one in the WIP forum so we can give you feedback as it's developping.

Cheers

D'Arcy

p.s. photomanipulation and paintover is fine, just make sure you tell everyone up front ...

[ejazahmad]

nice work linainverse i love the reds and great pose keep painting :)

Regards,

[linainverse23]

thanks for the responses so far everyone. I won't be very active on the forums for a little while so that I can do some rework on the project. If you have more suggestions or comments, please send them over.

[linainverse23]

Hey everyone. I just submitted a revision on the WIP forum. Remember the character layout was based off of a photo that I took of myself, which I modified and painted over (the photo doesn't show anywhere anymore, it's just helped as a reference and for pin-pointing where some of the skin tones were). The background is almost entirely made-up, but the design on the columns had help from a reference photo. Sorry if there was some confusion and misunderstandings before, it wasn't intentional.

I've reworked the shadows and lighting, the ruin head has been moved, and there are a few more modifications as well. If you wish to see the changes and make more comments and suggestions, please head over to the Work in Progress forum area ("Spear Dance revision") and check it out. I would love more critiques and comments. Come check it out. I look forward to your responses.

[NickOLeary]

the flowers in the background are pretty rad. haha nice to see the good ol' scattered leaf brush too, quick and effective.

[linainverse23]

haha. thanks for the comment. I enjoy getting them.

[arms]

Looked very good focus on a charm ~ ~ paintings

SO Good~ :thumbsup:

[linainverse23]

Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.

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