CGTalk - Sketchbook and Anatomy Thread of Tom Clive

Tonik

02-10-2009, 06:08 PM

Hi, great start
When sketching for life, try not to have fear to make mistakes... draw without expectations and you will be able to get a lot more info on paper in 45 minutes soon.

Keep at it!

Cheers. I used to do loads of lifedrawing but until recently hadn't done much since I left art school 12 or so years ago. In October I signed up for weekly sessions and have been getting back into it every Sunday since then.

I've been trying to clean up my lines a bit as I have a very messy style. You'll see what I mean when I get some more pics up.

Tonik

06-20-2009, 08:18 PM

Here's another one ! My sketchbook's a bit big for my scanner so I've taken some pics. I'll get some more uploaded !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6396.jpg

Tonik

06-20-2009, 08:24 PM

Another 45 min sketch.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6403.jpg

And here's a slightly quicker one:
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6393.jpg

mister3d

06-20-2009, 08:44 PM

Good lines! Try to focus more on form. I know it's difficult, franlky speaking, I was drawing with this line\graphocal approach till the end of the art school... only when I got into 3d I started understanding what structure means, and why it's important to work with form, mucle and bones. Though, I felt it was important to me untill some point to draw this way, as line is important too.

Tonik

06-20-2009, 09:02 PM

Thanks for the comments. I think I'm going to agree with you about the lines on some of this stuff. Some are still looking a little stiff.

Here are a couple of more form based digital bits.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/mary.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Leda.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Cerri.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/CGTalkHeadProject1.jpg

I'm just going to keep plugging away at it. Practice is the only way to improve.

Here's a 5 min warm up but I quite like it.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6420.jpg

AztcFireFlower

06-21-2009, 12:09 PM

It all eventually works itself together. Line design and construction in the beginning then shape design and value are added as your experience grows.
Whatever you do, though, just keep consistently at it.

Tonik

06-26-2009, 11:44 PM

Thanks AztecFireFlower - I appreciate your input.

My proportions are getting better and I know there's things I need to work on but I think I know which direction I've got to head towards to get there. I'm really enjoying getting back into drawing which is of course the most important thing.

Tonik

07-19-2009, 07:16 PM

Hmm- I think this looks better on paper. I took a photo with my phone and it definitely loses something.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6490b.jpg

Tonik

07-26-2009, 08:03 PM

Here's a quickie. A bit looser than usual !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/IMG_6493b.jpg

Tonik

07-26-2009, 08:07 PM

I enjoyed this one but it was a bit of an awkward pose for the model which she found a bit hard to keep up. The twist of the hip's a little inconsistent because of this I think.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Leaning.jpg

Tonik

09-29-2009, 06:15 PM

I've been trying a few different things recently. Here are some images from the last couple of weeks - again sorry about the quality of the pics taken with my mobile but I'll try and get my scanner working again !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Sunday4th.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/SanguineConte.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/LineDrawing.jpg

NR43

09-30-2009, 06:23 AM

I like the loose sketch in post #11

Do more of those if you can.
Also, experiment with different media. It will seriously improve your technique after a while.

Tonik

10-03-2009, 03:42 PM

Cheers NR43 - I'm trying all sorts of new stuff at the moment. I've filled up a couple of hundred page sketchbooks so am getting the practise in.

I'll have a look at your thread at some point - it's huge but looking at the beginning and the end your improvement's been great !

nelchee

10-04-2009, 10:30 PM

Lovely work, keep it up :)

That drawing laying near your feet - what technique is it? Looks like something white on black, but it's hard to tell :)

Tonik

10-07-2009, 01:53 AM

Thanks Nelchee !

That one on the floor by my feet is sanguine conte crayon powdered with a scalpel and then rubbed into some fairly heavy cartridge paper. I used a sharpened rubber to draw so yep it is like painting white on black. I think another half hour would have worked well but it looks okay !

Tonik

10-13-2009, 11:29 PM

A couple more - again taken with camera phone. These are too big to fit on scanner anyway but you get the idea:

This was a 15 minute warm up but I think I'm getting more accurate with quickly getting proportions down.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Tuesday13th.jpg

I spent about an hour on this and am generally fairly happy with it. I might try and develop the shading a bit as it's drawn on buff paper with a sanguine pencil crayon. I'm thinking of bringing out some highlights with a white conte crayone.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Sanguine2.jpg

NR43

10-14-2009, 06:11 AM

Great to see more life drawings in the anatomy forum... not happening often these days...

Your last drawing, why not going a bit darker here and there?
Remember, it's just practice... if you screw up, you can always do better in your next drawing :)

Tonik

10-19-2009, 08:18 AM

Cheers. Yep, I've been trying to do as much life drawing as possible recently and think it's starting to pay off. It's easier and quicker to ref from a photo but there's no comparison to drawing from a figure in studio.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Sanguine.jpg

borroriow

10-26-2009, 12:07 AM

Hi Tom! Thanks for the reply in my topic, I will see what I can do about those heavy outlines.

About your drawings, they look great, I can see improvement from one to the next, but in some of your drawings I feel they are a little stiff, probably because you put the forms on right angles and draw with straight lines, hope it made sense ;)

krispee

11-01-2009, 04:35 PM

Hey Tom, really coming along with the drawing, keep focusing on those lines, feel the flow and rythm of them, the details will come later......

Kris

Tonik

11-20-2009, 10:27 PM

Cheers guys. It's interesting to go back over your older work to see what works and what doesn't from a fresh viewpoint.

I've had some time to keep on working on some of my stuff recently and am quite pleased with my progress. I feel I'm getting to grips with anatomy and form so will do some exercises combining this with tonal and colour practice. ( Will have to put away Modern Warfare 2 for a while to actually get something done ! )

Tonik

11-27-2009, 07:49 AM

Managed to get my scanner working. Here's one I did on Tuesday night. I think I can still push the tones a lot futher to try and create a bit more form but the structures about there ! Oh and of course the face could do with a bit more work and the left thigh/hip area needs a bit more shape. Visually the form's a bit confusing around there.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/TonalSketch.jpg

Edit: Pfft. Photobucket blocking my images - have hosted on my own site now.

Tonik

01-13-2010, 08:44 PM

New Year and some new drawings ! Here are a couple of quick ones !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Reclining.jpg
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/PencilBack.gif

NR43

01-14-2010, 08:11 AM

Hey nice life drawings.
Have you tried soft media like charcoal yet?
You'll find you'll be able to be less line dependant.

You an also mix media and add a wash here and there to increase depth of forms. It's also nice to put your figures in a background really quickly. (You can always add highlights later again with white chalk or paint for example)...

Tonik

01-17-2010, 08:58 PM

Thanks Johan !

Yep, I've too much stuff to put it all online but I've been playing about with all sorts of media recently. I've been trying to get back to foundations with my life drawing to try and concentrate on the anatomy. I'll post a bit of variety up at some point but here's more pencil stuff !

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Seated-1.jpg

01-18-2010, 08:03 AM

Hey Tom - these look great!

You can genuinely see an improvement as your drawings progress. I love the line quality of your last few & I love the study on the chair.

Look forward to seeing more!

:D

Tonik

01-18-2010, 08:06 PM

Thanks Alex. I'm not too happy with the way the figure sits on the drapery though and have imagined what it would have looked like with more of the model exposed. Maybe this would have worked better ?

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Seated2.jpg

Cisc0

01-18-2010, 08:35 PM

Hey Tom! If I can tell you my opinion I prefer the first one you did about this two sitting figures: or better still I would prefer to see more drapery hiding the back of the model (I dunno if I'm explained well).. just for a "better" wrapping sensation.

Btw very cool life drawings. Waiting to see something colored with traditional media

Tonik

01-21-2010, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the comment and you could be right Cisco ! The 2nd was just a quick PS paintover job to see how changing the composition might work. I think the pose is a little awkward to start with but I'll bear that in mind for my next sketch.

I think my shading could do with some work to so plan on doing some of the traditional exercises to get in the right frame of mind.

There are some in here that look as though they might be useful. I've had this on my shelf for a while but haven't studied it in detail. Think it's about time I did !

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n99iQ90PL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU02_.jpg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Artists-Complete-Guide-Figure-Drawing/dp/0823003035/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264101775&sr=1-1

Tonik

01-24-2010, 05:38 PM

Same model as before. Thought I'd challenge myself with some foreshortening and am fairly happy with the face. The left breast lacks a little weight but was a fairly accurate representation I think.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/LeanBack.jpg

Cisc0

01-24-2010, 06:16 PM

anandpg

01-24-2010, 06:36 PM

Hey Tom! Nice drawing .. Love your cross-hatching. :thumbsup:

Tonik

01-25-2010, 08:07 AM

Another nice drawing Tom :thumbsup:. I like the way you shade the figures with pencil. I don't want to do the "party pooper", but I think there's something strange really in the face: the left side looks quite too large in my opinion and the left eyebrow is larger than the right one and it would be strange if you could saw more the right side of the face during your drawing session (I hope you can understand me because my English is not so clear sometimes).

No probs Cisco - thanks for the input. She did have plump cheeks though and after measuring I don't think the actual proportions are that far off. I didn't have a rubber on me though and think that lightening her left cheek might balance it up a bit ! I'll agree with you on the eyebrow though - should have picked up on that !

Thanks Anand - am still working my way through your thread - there's a lot of work there !

Looking at that last pic one thing that I like is the hair which is something I often have probs with.

Tonik

02-01-2010, 06:09 PM

Something a little different this time. Tried using a male model this week - pretty happy although this pic could have done with a little more time.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff47/HotDog38/Relaxing.jpg

Tonik

02-10-2010, 08:29 AM

Back to basics !

This is a copy of a drawing in a John Raynes book - Faces and Expressions. It's a cheap simple book with interesting illustrations. Maybe the features are a little sharp but I tend to forget there's as much variety in shape and structure of skulls as there is to peoples faces. Will keep on practising and hopefully learning. Even just copying someone else's anatomical onservations helps me with my life drawing and gets me to look at the model in a different way.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Skull.jpg

02-10-2010, 01:36 PM

Nice!

From my (limited) knowledge, I'd say that the plane of the brow & cheekbones are a little too flat, but it may have been like this in the original... Really lovely pencil work!

Tonik

02-11-2010, 08:20 AM

Nice!

From my (limited) knowledge, I'd say that the plane of the brow & cheekbones are a little too flat, but it may have been like this in the original... Really lovely pencil work!

Thanks AJ. You're right though - I bet this guy would have been a funny looking guy if he had cheekbones and a brow like that !

Am just having a go at a skull pic by Giovanni Civardi. He has a lot softer style. I think I'll go along to the National Musuem at the weekend and have a go at a real skull. It's been a while since I've had the chance.

Tonik

02-11-2010, 08:35 PM

Here's a bit from a quick pastel sketch I did this evening (Only have an A3 scanner here). First time I've used pastel for a long time ! Better get to the art shop to get some fixative. It's pretty rough and I would have liked to have spent more time on it but enjoyed it.

Her left shoulder's too big and it throws off the balance a bit but ah well. Maybe when I've used fixative I'll have another go at it.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Pastel.jpg

Tonik

02-11-2010, 09:52 PM

Oh and here's the other skull study as mentioned before after Giovanni Civardi.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/SkullOpen.jpg

NR43

02-12-2010, 05:27 AM

Hey Tom the last two look beautiful!

I really like the pastel drawing.
Try experimenting with rubbing the pastel over the paper for the background.
The hard white lines are a bit distracting, other than that, great work.
The composition is lovely and pretty solid too.

More please! :D

dscavenger

02-12-2010, 09:37 AM

nice man..liked the style of the sketch and also the pastels..

Tonik

02-13-2010, 09:58 AM

Thanks for the encouraging replies guys. It always puts me in the mood to do more when you try something different and people seem to like it.

Oh and by the way this is an old clay sculpt I did of a cow which is a couple of feet or so long. I think you can see how even though the proportions are exaggerated learning the internal anatomy helped me find the shapes !

http://www.tomclive.co.uk/images/cowpic.jpg

Cisc0

02-13-2010, 10:23 AM

hey Tom, the pastel drawing is beautiful and so powerful! And I still live your lines in your drawings. Cool work with the cow, the wrong proportions make she looks like a cartoon; funny^^.

NR43

02-13-2010, 02:49 PM

pretty nice cow!

Tonik

02-13-2010, 10:52 PM

Cheers guys and here's a sketch I've just been working on this evening of a Lion's Skull. I got caught up a little in the detail and so maybe it's a little confusing when you look at it as a whole but I found the shapes really interesting and the similarities with a human skull really popped out at me.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/LionSkull.jpg

NR43

02-14-2010, 09:43 AM

Nice one Tom.
Could use some darker values though to make the forms more "readable"

Tonik

02-28-2010, 09:49 PM

Another one too big for the scanner so I've scanned the area I like. I might try pushing the values a little further on this one but quite like some of the shapes.

Charcoal with white chalk for the highlights. I'm trying to escape from the cross hatching as even though I like it - some of my stuff was starting to look the same..
http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Man.jpg

dscavenger

03-02-2010, 06:09 AM

hi, like the shapes and direction but the white highlights look slight odd to me...

Tonik

03-07-2010, 11:58 PM

Cheers dscavenger. I worked on that one a little more but it's still missing something. I'll take a photo and stick the whole thing up.

Have just been playing around with the 30 day demo of ZBrush. http://www.pixologic.com/zbrush/trial/I haven't really tried it since the first versions and it's a lot easier to use now. A totally different workflow to traditional digital modelling. Having said that next time I might make a base mesh and work from that.

I was just having a go at sculpting a generic face from a sphere and it started looking like Spock so I just went with it. I've added the broad shapes but haven't added details. Eyes are a bit tough but I'll work something out. Maybe I've stretched the polys around the eyes a bit much but I guess this will even out after I subdivide a level or two more.

Think I'll go for Spock Prime from the recent Star Trek movie so guess I'll have to dig in with those wrinkles and make his eyes quite hollow.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/SpockZBrush.jpg

Tonik

03-16-2010, 08:46 AM

Quick pastel sketch from Sunday. The colours look better on the actual piece and it's bigger than usual but maybe I should have gone even bigger. It was okay to start with but I found it hard to get in details with pastel.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/PastelBackSmall.jpg

Tonik

03-16-2010, 09:01 AM

Oh and here's a quick charcoal sketch !

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Charcoal.jpg

NR43

03-16-2010, 11:40 AM

Nice life drawings!

My favourite way to use charcoal on large surfaces is to use thick vines.
Not the usual 0.5cm ones, but around 1cm diameter at least. I then break off a small piece of about 3cm tall and use it on the sides. This way a few flat surfaces on the vine are created, while maintaining sharp edges in case some thin lines are required.
Perhaps worth a try :)

Also, for adding shaded areas, I usy my fingers to spread the charcoal. In the beginning, there's some charcoal going to stick to your fingers, which makes the shades lighter than intended. Then I just add new charcoal on the paper and "smudge" again. Important is not to clean your hands until you are finished, because when you do, you will get undesired effects because of your finger will not have any charcoal anymore on it. It's a great technique to build up a figure without being all too dependant on linework, especially on toned paper. To make toned paper I use bistre and a rag and just wipe it on the white paper. It's a lot cheaper than buying toned paper and it actually looks nicer too, because there's a more random texture on the paper this way.

I've been experimenting with this technique at the academy for a while now and the results are getting quite pleasing. (I'll post my work done with this technique in june, once I get the drawings back from the jury.)

Looking forward to see more life drawings from you!

Tonik

05-07-2010, 08:44 PM

I had a go at a quick oil sketch from life made the other day. Am fairly pleased with the likenesss although would have liked to add a little more to it. Maybe I'll have a play around and see if I can improve it.
http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/OilSketch.jpg

collings

05-07-2010, 10:15 PM

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Man.jpg

Really dig this one man, beautifull :arteest:

Tonik

05-08-2010, 10:52 AM

Thanks Nicolas !

Here's the full pic. Scanned and stitched together. Looking at it now I think maybe I should have sketched in his surroundings and his reflection in the mirror he was leaning against.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/StandingFull.jpg

It flattened a bit when I fixed this but that's something that happens I suppose !

Tonik

05-16-2010, 06:10 PM

Here's another pencil sketch. Fairly heavy on the lines but I think the shapes/proportions are okay.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Jill.jpg

Tonik

05-20-2010, 07:44 PM

Another quick oil study. This is Michael again who was in some of my earlier drawings.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Michael.jpg

AbuAmir

06-04-2010, 07:48 PM

Hi. For the pencil sketch I feel the head is a little bit too big. What rule do you use for the human body length - 8 heads or 7 heads and half?

jabuhrer

06-04-2010, 09:22 PM

Nice stuff Tom. I absolutely love you hatching/linework. It's fantastic, and it seems like you don't see a lot of folks that can pull that off these days.

Your digital pieces are awesome as well. It seems that they have a bit more depth and value range that some of your drawings on paper do. Anyway, keep it coming, I'm loving this thread!

Tonik

07-24-2010, 11:39 PM

Cheers for the comments guys ! I haven't updated enough recently but feel I'm starting to get a better feel for what I'm doing. I just spent a week at LARA in Clapham North, London ( http://www.drawpaintsculpt.com/ ) and learnt a huge amount. The tutors are practising artists who have all been classically trained in Florence and the quality of their work is amazing.

They really helped me understand what I was doing and I think I'll go back for another week in mid August as I have to take annual leave then anyway. Things I worked on were unifying tones, concentrating on shapes instead of features and working on edges instead of lines.

Here's a long pose I did whilst I was there:

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/lifepic.jpg

Oh and proportionally I measure up and try to use sight/size rather than rigidly sticking to head measurements.

Tonik

07-24-2010, 11:40 PM

Oh and here's a very quick charcoal sketch but I quite liked how it worked.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Tonal.jpg

mister3d

07-25-2010, 06:20 AM

The pre-last drawing is good! :thumbsup: You are doing it all right. The common problem is focusing on edges, and you seem to overcome this problem. For how long do you learn to draw? Do you study anatomy too?

Tonik

07-26-2010, 03:44 PM

Thanks Alexander ! I went to Art School a while ago but after I finished in 1998 didn't do that much for quite a while and headed in a more IT/Coding direction. For the past couple of years I've been getting back into it and draw from life at least once a week.

I've studied as much anatomy as I can and have loads of books that have helped.

I feel I'm finally understanding what I need to do to improve and now it's just about putting the theory into practice !

mister3d

07-27-2010, 01:56 AM

Do you work or plan to work as a character modeler? I was surprised an amateur can become such a good drawer, but considering you have an artistic education, this explains the "genius touch". ;)

Tonik

07-27-2010, 04:52 PM

Thanks for the comments but I still have a lot to learn ! I've done quite a bit of character modelling over the past 10 years or so and think I have the technical knowledge but haven't had the patience to bring a project to full completion recently..

I like the term amateur as if you look at it's Latin roots it means lover and I draw because I love doing it. I think if I was doing something commercially I might lose my enthusiasm for it.

At the moment I'm just trying to get better and will keep on at it !

Tonik

08-22-2010, 01:00 PM

Another HB drawing ! I gave it to my Mum who's framing it so only had time to get a quick iPhone pic but I quite like the way it turned out and yep it does look like the model this time !

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/HBTorso.jpg

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/HBFull.jpg

Tonik

11-16-2010, 12:18 AM

Here are a few updates ! A little quicker and rougher but here goes:

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Sitting.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Beard1.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Beard2.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Beard3.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/44359_423477036673_569071673_5366879_7497005_n.jpg

Tonik

11-16-2010, 12:18 AM

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Face2.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/TightSketch.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Adele2.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/nikki3.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/nikkismall.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Justin3.jpg

SpiritDreamer

11-16-2010, 05:08 AM

Tonik

11-16-2010, 11:39 AM

Hi Tom :)

Amazing progress...and a full range of some really beautiful works as of lately..:thumbsup:
I really enjoyed going throgh your sketchbook..:)
Take Care Tom and Keep Inspired and Inspiring..:thumbsup:
Glenn

Cheers Glenn ! I've been doing loads of drawing recently and think I've loosened up a bit with my style. The more you draw the easier the proportions seem to get so I can concentrate on the tones and atmosphere rather than measuring up when you only have a limited time with a model !

krispee

11-16-2010, 04:19 PM

agree with Glenn here, you have really improved, especially like the two longer poses, you are getting your eye in....keep up the good work...

Kris

Tonik

11-16-2010, 10:31 PM

Thanks Kris. Another sketch from this evening. Might tidy this up a bit as there are elements ( like the torso ) I'm pretty happy with.

Did this with a 3B graphite stick on medium weight cartridge paper.

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/photo.JPG

Tonik

11-21-2010, 06:22 PM

New sketch from today !

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Jill2.jpg

Here's a five min line drawing I did beforehand and I almost prefer it...
http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/LineDrawing.jpg

jabuhrer

11-23-2010, 09:33 PM

Very nice stuff as always Tom. I'd love to see some painting!

Tonik

11-26-2010, 01:46 PM

Here's an animated gif of the progress of one of my drawings which pretty much shows the sight/size process I used. I would have liked a little more time on this but then I say that for most of my drawings. As you can see I was having lots of issues with details and some of the face but when I concentrated the focus on shapes rather than features I think it worked a lot better.

http://tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Animated.gif

mister3d

11-26-2010, 04:50 PM

Good job! You could make more planes on white highlight areas which could use some subtle shading to reveal the form even further.

Tonik

12-13-2010, 09:58 PM

Something a little different. A quick charcoal sketch on buff sugar paper.

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/GoatSketch.jpg

Tonik

01-17-2011, 10:51 PM

A couple more !

This was a 20 minute sketch in HB.

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Portrait.jpg

And another quick one from the same session. Fairly tricky with the lighting and angle but I quite like the effect.
http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/HardLight.jpg

http://www.tomclive.com/sites/default/files/Vulture.jpg

imageen

01-18-2011, 02:05 AM

hi tonik i like the face and pose on your #12 post the woman is beautiful and sensual

Tonik

02-21-2011, 08:32 PM

hi tonik i like the face and pose on your #12 post the woman is beautiful and sensual

Hi Imageen - thanks - she's a friend of mine and a very pretty girl. It always makes it easier to get a more attractive result. I haven't been here that much in a while but have been doing loads of art so will post some more up soon !