CGTalk - Non-Simulated Cloth

bschulte

05-03-2002, 10:45 AM

I'm beginning a project right now. Two of my characters will have cloth and I do not want to use a cloth simulator. Any suggestions on other techniques? This is what I came up with.

Rig the clothing with the mesh but add additional morph targets (for wrinkles) and weight maps as well as lattices with nulls to control general, larger cloth movement.

Anyone have experience with this and hopefully success? I want to avoid gumby characters.

Thanks,
Baaron

visualboo

05-03-2002, 12:23 PM

Gumby rocks man :)

Is there a reason you dont want to use a simulator? Just curious. I'll try a few things and get back to ya.

bschulte

05-03-2002, 07:26 PM

Mostly it seems simulators give you a cloth look, but you have less control then. Also, they have been intensive for my computer and seem buggy when I use them.

Baaron

TheDevil[DK]

05-04-2002, 04:45 PM

-kelcius cloth is best but Crash way to often
-ractor doesnt work at all for cloth (IMO)
-Stitch is the best choice Fast and easy
-simcloth is free, lots of controle but way to slow !!!

bschulte

05-04-2002, 09:12 PM

Thanks Devil. I'll looking into them.

baaron

TheDevil[DK]

05-06-2002, 11:02 AM

ohh...I have not tryed the cloth plugin from Reyes
http://www.reyes-infografica.net/cloth.php

http://66.70.224.246/demos/plugins/DEMO ClothReyes 3.11 MAX4.zip

Iain McFadzen

05-07-2002, 07:55 AM

I'd disagree about Stitch, in my experience it's collision detection is so bad you spend more time tweeking your settings than the time it takes to calculate a Simcloth solution.

I'd go with Simcloth even if money was no object, but if you are dead set against using any cloth sim at all then I'd just model the clothes as part of the character (wrinkles and all) and rig it normally.

visualboo

05-07-2002, 04:21 PM

oh, sorry bschulte. I lost the thread :)

But I agree with Iain though... just model them. Also, I dont understand because you said you have two characters that will have cloth but that you dont want to use any simulators because they look like cloth. Did I miss somthing? :)

bschulte

05-07-2002, 05:08 PM

I wanted to avoid cloth sims for a few reasons. Processor intensive, too touchy to get right, less control, don't have the money to buy anyhow.

Thanks

TheDevil[DK]

05-09-2002, 02:25 PM

hehe...sorry..it's two years ago I tested simcloth (on a slow pc) !!
:surprised :D :hmm: :buttrock:

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