Depth in Photoshop...

[singularity2006]

that is definitely a toughy especially when translating 3D (or rather, depth based) work onto a 2d surface onto a 2d program. Ur best bet is to work patiently with gradients and shades .... I've never had any experience using a tablet to draw in photoshop, but i know with just as mouse, it's already difficult. Ur best bet is to try something else like Painter. Photoshop is really meant for photo editing rather than painting, though it can paint.

[Ian Jones]

Try a simple excercise painting a sphere and its shadow, a box and maybe a cone aswell. Trying these basic primitives you will learn about how light plays over the surface of different objects and you will learn about cast shadows and even bouncelight such as radiosity can be studied. This will improve your ability to render solid form. Do it in black and white to avoid any colour distractions or problems... you will also learn about the use of value more easily with b+w painting.

If you have trouble starting, find a 3d render of a sphere or cube and study the light and shade on the surface of each form. You will learn a lot about light direction and that light direction consistency is very important. I hope that helps.

[bumskee]

hey goatfuzz,

you know what?? you seemed to have the exact same issue as i did and still do. I can't paint, really really can't paint the only thing i can do is much like you toonist stuff, I dun even bother with landscape coz i know i suck.
I read so many damn tutorials I am getting sick of it yet my painting skills dun improve. So i sat down and thought about the real problem why I can't paint?? And it occured to me, maybe it's coz I am thinking colour as in colour.
red is red, green is green, but if you see other people's master piece and sample some colours it's not really red (or not the bright red i had!!) so my conclusion is to express depth is to study colour and lighting. expressing form is directly connected to lighting, which alters colour of everything we see.
( i hope i am getting this right).
I am hoping to study these later after i get the anatomy right.
one day hopefully.

And I must disagree with singularity with PS being only or photos.
Honestly, when I realised i couldn't paint, i blamed it on photoshop (shame on me!) So i tried Painter thinking it would clear all the problem, but what do you know!! if anything it's similar to photoshop. it was really about how you use it rather than what you use. PS7 has really gone powerful enough to match painter. but it shouldn't be the issue or an excuse (in my case).

practice and study should turn you into a great painter, but it will take time so take it easy and enjoy urself!

:beer: :beer:

[Stroker]

One of my art teachers once said,
"There are no lines in real life - only changes in colour."

That saying alone has really helped me with my painting skills in PhotoShop.

[Goatfuzz]

Thank you all very much for the advice! I'll try and maybe sketch something then maybe try and color/shade it; then try and paint without a sketch. I have actually done the painting of a shape such as a shpere quite a while ago and gave it shading and a shadow (it was actually quite decent).

-As with everything and me, it all comes down to motivation (my greatest enemy)... ;)

[lingling_wu]

:cool
It has some complication,but i think it's right.sometimes i have the same feeling.
Good luck

[kex]

ok ur problem may connect to a lack of experience in actual basics of painting by hand ?

next u need to be a little more observernt and understand scale and shading.

this equates to drawign object you see around you alot and youl get a better idea.

if ur drawing dont expect miracles from a mouse a wacom may be what ur looking for as well but get ur basics down first.

ps7 is great for designing little logos and what not because it does all the work but you got start drawing in real life as well.

to get an idea of what im saying most really good artist at one point in life would draw or paint everyday frequentley.

[Mr_Lunchbox]

Originally posted by Stroker
One of my art teachers once said,
"There are no lines in real life - only changes in colour."
I like that...

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