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AkujinNoNinjin
01-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Hi,

I'm English, 22, and currently working for a year in Canada. I'm degreeless. My one day dream is to be a successful 3D artist. The question thusly arises, how?

My main desire at the moment is to remain in Canada (I could go off on a long tangent about why I like it out here so much); so I've been researching the Vancouver schools (VFS, VanArts, etc) on recommendation of these forums, and reading through all the discussion topics about them; but all these types of places appear to be 1-year courses with a certificate at the end. I've read a lot of the debating backwards and forwards about where is better - but the general consensus is always that if you want a work visa you need a degree. And, since I'd prefer to work abroad, that's a key consideration for me.

So where do people advise studying to get a degree? I'm happy to go back to school in the UK if that's what it takes; but obviously I'd prefer a school out here in Canada. Equally, I'm happy doing a course of any length -although I'd assume it's going to be a 3 year for a degree course.

Also, when contacting these places, what are the questions I should be asking? I've already attempted university once (for Electronics - something I was highly knowledgeable of but just not passionate about), so I know the general questions and procedures to go through; but on these forums I find a lot of "talk to your departments - it's important!" Are there any important questions that I should be asking that I'm unlikely to have thought of? Finding out course content, discussing the software used (so I can get some practice in advance), discussing the rate of job placement after the fact, and of course costs.

Also, would you advise once I have a degree that I then went on to a course such as those offered by VanArts or VFS?

Thank you very much for any and all help in advance.

PS. Obviously, I'd prefer a school that would actually teach me something, rather than a 'going through the motions because I want a visa'. My main interests are modelling and concepting; although I have little experience of animation. Most of all, I just want to learn and expand on the skills I've picked up doing this as a hobby since my early teens, and get to a point where I can make informed decisions, and eventually do something I love to do.

SenecaAnimation
03-28-2009, 09:48 PM
Hi AkujinNoNinjin,

If you are truly focused on getting a degree, than your only option in Canada is to go to Sheridan. They are the only animation course in the country that offers a degree. I would say though, that you should look more at getting a quality education first, and then worrying about getting a visa for over seas work later. I know plenty of people that work abroad with out degrees. The U.S. is really a stickler for degrees, but I've found that many other places in the world don't require them.

I would really think about what a degree is going to do for your career.

Sincerely,

Sean Craig.

Rebeccak
03-28-2009, 10:41 PM
Obviously, I'd prefer a school that would actually teach me something, rather than a 'going through the motions because I want a visa'. My main interests are modelling and concepting; although I have little experience of animation. Most of all, I just want to learn and expand on the skills I've picked up doing this as a hobby since my early teens, and get to a point where I can make informed decisions, and eventually do something I love to do.Don't let passion blind you to reality. I've heard of several foreign students at Gnomon who are having to ship back to their home countries because of the work visa issue. Non degree granting schools will either tell you to worry about it later, or they won't tell you at all. Then not very well informed (or passion blinded) foreign students end up screwed in the end because they thought that they could worry about it later, later came, and they end up having to go home.

It's not an easy issue. The US is a major hub for your field, so not having a degree is a big deal. It's a big quandary, but try to choose a school where you can get a good education AND a degree, so you don't have so many unknowns up in the air. Probably the best thing is to get a degree where you want to work, but these days, it's not always possible...so it may entail some travel. Ringling / SCAD are the better degree granting animation / 3D schools in the US, but if you like cold Canada I don't know how much you'd like hot Florida / Georgia. :)

SenecaAnimation
03-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Did you know Toronto in the summer gets up to 35 degrees Celsius? Thats when we can come out of our igloos. :)

liptrick
04-23-2009, 08:17 PM
If you're looking at VFS or Vanarts here are some different perspectives on both schools.

As for degrees, Emily Carr has an animation department that can offer degrees in Fine Arts with a major in animation. You'll have to do more research on that though. There's not much said about Carr in these forums. Here's some student work to see what's possible.
Emily Carr
http://blogs.eciad.ca/animation/tag/digital

Vancouver Film School
http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/revi...isky-investment (http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/reviews/vancouver-film-school/3d-animation-visual-effects/a-risky-investment)
http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/revi...-visual-effects (http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/reviews/vancouver-film-school/3d-animation-visual-effects/from-foundation-to-visual-effects)
http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/revi.../results-matter (http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/reviews/vancouver-film-school/3d-animation-visual-effects/results-matter)

VanArts
http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/revi...r-film-tv-games (http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/reviews/vanarts/3d-animation-for-film-tv-games/vanarts-3d-animation-for-film-tv-games)
http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/revi...ssible-possible (http://www.artschoolreviews.ca/reviews/vanarts/3d-animation-for-film-tv-games/making-the-impossible-possible)

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