Still some uses for EIAS

[futagoza]

EIAS has been collecting some serious dust over the last months due to the lack of CA posing/animating ability. I know people use it for arch and mograph... anyway...


He, he... Oh wait, last time i used EIAS for the little things i do was in October :blush: !
Maybe i´m currently to lazy :shrug: or it´s those (endless non-productive*) discussions about EIAS that shies me away from using it, i dunno. :rolleyes:

Regards
Stefan

*Which i always or sometimes trap in and participate, :banghead:

[ediris]

i will love to use it for mograph work but the thing is that the animation part of the application has been left behind so many years.

how can it be a mograph application if it has no direct access to .ai import? once you finally get your text in is locked so no more modifications ,how about increasing or decreasing the extrusion...you have to go bac to create another 3d text,.fact file,the hard drive keeps getting filled.
Last time i brought all my texts as textures maps.I should have work with Zaxerks within After Effects.
Is 2008 and the fonts are not simple text information now they have character, they have personality, and they want to be alive.

[scottfox]

Edgard, Edgard, Edgard. Ive been doing animation with Zaxwerks modeler in one form or another for something like 12 years. If a client wants me to radically change the bevel profile in ANY way, I can do it in roughly 60 seconds. The model is simply saved OVER the old one, and auto updates in EI with no problemo! :) Why you think you need to save
so many models makes no sense. I know invigerator inside and out, and to those people who dont know it well, there is a LOT of power in that tool, I am able to do so much in it,
that new clients always ask me what modeler I use. Its far more powerful than other .ai import in other apps and much easier to customize.
•••••••
Now, as far as manipulating the model after its in EI, besides deformers and a few other minor options, you are totally CORRECT, its not good. I do wish I could manipulate the polys inside EI, but my work rarely requires much of that type of manipulation.
I love EI for what it does well, what it can't do is plastered everywhere. So are we "glass half full types, or are we glass half empty types"

[scottfox]

Stefan said --- "or it´s those (endless non-productive*) discussions about EIAS that shies me away from using it, i dunno. :rolleyes:"

So your not going to use EI because of discussions (non productive) about it?

Sorry, but that's odd. I know Brian and I had ENDLESS discussions with EI on trying some way in the world to get them to enable ai import into animator, or paralumino's plugs. We even offered many Thousands of our own dollars to try and make it happen. Ultimately,we did not succeed. But we did make EITG well aware of the issue and have some hope that they may be addressing it soon. But regardless of any of those "non productive" discussions, im not going to shoot myself in the foot and stop using it because they did not do what we requested. What would that prove? Constructive criticism should always be welcome, if done professionally. But at some point, if you hate EI that much. Or never use it, your better off not posting, or simply moving on.

my 2 cents

[futagoza]

So your not going to use EI because of discussions (non productive) about it?


Well, i must admit that i lost interest in using EIAS due to the fact that the focus of most discussions, in let´s say the last two years, has changed. When i started using EIAS about 2-3 years ago there where more discussions on how-to´s, tip´s and tricks etc., which i liked very much and often had fun to learn.


But at some point, if you hate EI that much. Or never use it, your better off not posting, or simply moving on.

my 2 cents

I never said that i hate EI, but it´s true i don´t like to use it that much anymore. But i keep my copy, as a ticket for the forums. Well moving, yes that´s also another decission i long thought about it and i will do that soon.

Anyways, hope you all have a nice holiday season and good luck for you all in the new year!

Regards
Stefan

[Jens C. Möller]

This happens. Greetings to every "evangelist" who did not want to stop to talk about what EI lacks instead to give advice.

Merry Christmas

Jens

[ediris]

Hey is been a productive year for me and the EI community at least we talked,argue,fought and let our stressed out, i got to travel to Dubai and Singapore and from all over the place i didnt loose attention to the forums. Paralumino finally decided to stop making plug ins. We got a v8 in the works which is gonna some people happy, a new modeler is in the works.

Is being busy for EITG and its members , we got for the first time a voice regarding the features in v8.

I will say is being positive Jens. At least for me, i got to get involved in a few projects using EIAS, my advice to Stefan and all is just to keep your copy of EI cause is brush in your painting tools.Believe in your talent that is the only thing that will keep you alive.

[Reuben5150]

I have to admit that a lot of the discussion focus lately seems to be on what EI *can't* do, and its rather off putting and must be to a LOT of people who read these posts, this has to stop.

I use EI almost every day, its great for what i do, no intentions of stopping using it, EI continues to develop yet remains a lean-mean production tool without any hint of becoming an over bloated mess a lot of the others have become.

I am really looking forward to Tesla, EI8 and other stuff in the works.

Reuben

[Jens C. Möller]

Yes. I also use EI for everything I do, and it lets me compete against big shops, since it eats alot less ressources since it is fast and reliable. I don't know why EITG does not communicate this aspect... I still think that 90% of all the CGI that gets produced every day could be done with EI. I also use other things too - of course. But for me personally EI is good.

Jens

[ediris]

Maybe if more information was opened instead of bashing the users for not knowing how to use the application maybe than we all could turn into EI as our principal package. Until than i keep using C4D.
Doesnt matte if takes 3 days to render but at least gets the job done.Is a reliable tool.

[cjberg]

I find this post has completely been hijacked for User and EI negativity. Please start your own thread about such things.

The whole meaning of the original post is gone and lost. It was to point out the strengths of the EI deforms. Not to point out an app weakness, ask people to leave the app, ban negative postings, or an opportunity for sarcasm. You can achieve all that in PMs.

IMHO, if someone is having issues with the app, you will find you get a lot further helping them with their concerns rather than attacking them for their concerns.

[ediris]

EIAS Deformations are with no doubt amazing, i missed these deforms whenever i am around other 3d package. i used to use bezier2 instead of IK for the legs and arms. haha that was back in 1998.

[sweaz]

I'm an illustrator. 90% of my work is Photoshop. But I love working in the 10% that is 3D and EIAS has been my 3D App of choice since I abandoned Sculpt 4D and Strata 10+ years ago. I use the Toolbox version of EIM because I work in MacOSX and I was not, at the time, able to afford to upgrade to an OSX version of EIAS/EIM.

Despite the bugs and crashes of the Toolbox EIM, it remains my modeler of choice. It has become second nature.

I nave upgraded EIAS since then, but still use the old EIM with it, preferring it to Silo, et al. Wish I could find a OSX-compatible EIM.

[AVTPro]

n...you have to go bac to create another 3d text,.fact file,the hard drive keeps getting filled.



You've filled a drive with text models? :rolleyes:

Gee, Edgard LOL

[ediris]

:) True Alonzo,
Just trying to make it easier on my self that is all.Happy new beginning for all of you guys

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