Would opening an EIAS YouTube channel be useful?

[futagoza]

Looks to me that it would be free of charge, at least i could not find any info on costs for setting up an account and an own channel.

But whom from EITG has the time to maintain such thingy? They all seem to be pretty busy with v8 and Tesla...

Maybe someone could look at the .pdf on the bottom right (how to guides, creating a brand channel...)

http://www.youtube.com/t/advertising

Regards
Stefan

[juanxer]

It's just that, at its most basic, an EIAS channel could host all the tutorials Ian has done plus the demo reel, so the only work needed is to upload those movies.

[Vizfizz]

Well let me see if I can integrate that idea into the new Paralumino site I'm developing.

[richardjoly]

Well let me see if I can integrate that idea into the new Paralumino site I'm developing. I really like this place. Kramer has a good mix of online tutorials, blog and good products just to give you some more ideas...
http://www.videocopilot.net/

[Vizfizz]

Looks similar to where I was going. But I see a few things I like. Thanks Richard. Now I have more to do. lol

[NorthernLights]

The biggest beef I have with YouTube as pertains to EI-created content is the sh*tty image quality. It's fine for watching goofy comedy riffs but not for what's supposed to be film-quality imagery. A while back there was a push to use some non-Quicktime format on the EITG site and I had the same problem with it. Perhaps the most important reason to use EI is the superior image quality so if you muddy it severely with lousy YouTube compression, you'd have to have content that clearly shows off other aspects of EI. Either that or put a caveat in every posting that says "To see what this looks like when you watch it in a decent format, click here."

That having been said, YouTube exposure has potential.

[juanxer]

Actually, Youtube allows for better quality movie alternates (oftentimes you see under the movie a link to a less compressed h.264 version). I don't know how to set it to choose these ones whenever they exist.

For the ones that are setting up their own movie-rich websites: I wonder what Flash-based format Vimeo (http://www.vimeo.com/) is using. The movies there look quite great.

[Vizfizz]

Actually, I've explored both. I got a Vimeo+ Membership for POV Previs mainly for domain locking and security passwords per video on embedding. Both YouTube and Vimeo allow for HD Content.

Vimeo converts to 24p flv I believe, while You Tube now uses 30p h264. With Youtube's new HD mode, the visual quality and bitrate is just slightly better than Vimeo's but not by much. 24p works fine for me cause all my work is at 24fps for film. Vimeo's community is far better and you don't have 12 year old brats commenting with things like, "Your video suxxx".

However for Paralumino, I'll probably use YouTube mainly for the free HD embedding capabilities. Vimeo's financial model requires members to pay for HD embedding. But who knows, I'll probably use both incase I need better channel's and security features. Then Vimeo is better.

[ediris]

I think the best person to ask is Alonzo which has been uploading tutorials of all kinds, the quality of Youtube is far from good evryone knows these.

I have Vimeo, which uploads HD my Art Director uses Vimeo to upload her music videos,there is no comparison on the quality between Vimeo and Youtube.

And if you want a server you can use Zshare(free),rapidshare,megaupload to host the videos while you keep updating the Vimeo library.

What about if i send you my reel with the nasty Youtube compression, will you hired me? No matter how bad my reel looks like i could never use it for my clients to see my work, i could use it as a ¨why not?¨ type of thing but never to be presented for a client.

[scottfox]

I agree with Blair and others on the quality issue. EI's image quality is its main selling point. I dont know much about either site, but if you cant show pristine samples, than I say wait. It will happen soon, we all know it. Reputation wise, youtube is extremely cheezy.
My brothers bar has youtube computers for his drunk patrons to yuck it up too. And their 12 year old bratty kids to hang out on. Sounds like a fun place to waste your time, not so much a place to be taken seriously.

Also, doesn't Brad own an internet hosting Co? Does that open up possibilities for better quality? Im not so good with these issues, but I wonder.....

[Vizfizz]

You Tube's new HD mode is very clear and clean. It looks very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b1fpn7-c_U&fmt=22

[ediris]

it looks presentable

[juanxer]

My thing about Youtube is that it doesn't matter that there are loads of crap in there: it is sort of Google for video, and for everything, indirectly. So the point is: would having some EIAS-related content organized into a Youtube "channel" generate Google search hits for free (as it looks like Google has Youtube well covered)?

It's not that I see Youtube as a primary anything, publicity-wise, but it could be of some help. And videotutorial footage is not so quality-critical to not be used in that way.

(of course this is only a suggestion :shrug: )

[scottfox]

Very nice quality video Brian. Shot with a 50k dollar camera and 24fps. I think 30fps would
be the challenge. Also, a lot of CG work has a much wider color pallette than that sample,
which is MUCH more challenging to encode nicely. I just finished a 720p set of animations.
a 4 second clip came in at roughly 80 megabytes UNcompressed. This was a pretty dimly lit and contrasty animation. That would compress beautifully. That same 4 second clip with vibrant colors could get around 300mb. MUCH harder for any compression algorithm to
handle nicely. Regardless, it looks like were either there NOW or very close to getting there.

Any pub is good pub they say, so, why not.

[Vizfizz]

There are far better samples out there..the point of the video is to just show that YouTube is now supporting 1280x720 30p video, which is more than adequate for EIAS video demos. Vimeo is great looking too and probably a better choice for 24p projects.

[ediris]

Have you guys seeing Modo assistance(online help), video training,info on how to use the software. Is really amazing. If you can host a link on the software that points you to a youtube video of how to use these tool it will be awesome.

[scottfox]

funny thing from my perspective anyway. 85% of what Im asked to do is still 720x486 stuff. What we dont want to do is mix that content with 720 stuff AT 720p resolution.
Uprezing (is that a word?) content can soften the image and end up 'accidentally' looking like the quality is 'off' some. So I would say, start smaller, which is still a nice size for the net, and down rez the hd stuff, or have 2 streams and accomodate both.

my 2 cents...

[AVTPro]

There are far better samples out there..the point of the video is to just show that YouTube is now supporting 1280x720 30p video, which is more than adequate for EIAS video demos. Vimeo is great looking too and probably a better choice for 24p projects.

I like youtube a lot.

Also, the new Canon VIXIA HV30 is doing 30p.

I still need to get compression right, I shoot at 1920x1080i. I think that's the wrong resolution for youtube and the files are big.

Once I get the settings correct I'm sure the image will be much better quality.

[ReginaldThomasJr]

Does anyone know if EIAS doing a YouTube channel would be of any benefit and how costly it could be? I just saw what the SolidThinking guys are doing and it seems rather neat.

http://www.youtube.com/user/solidThinking

Just looking at that SolidThinking software on youtube makes me want to buy it. It looks so versatile (I love the ability to edit seemingly NURBs geometry on the fly no matter how far into modeling you are). Tesla, are you listening?

[AVTPro]

The new HD is so hot.

This isn't as clean as it could be, but it's a lot better than before.

1280x720

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaFWKSb_SDY

Check out HotforWords. Here stuff is very nicely produced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52CEeDavgaU

I see no less quality with than any other video on the web besides the HUGE Apple trail DLs.

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