How to make Undo easier?

[ceql]

Add it to your shelf, or I recommend getting a 5 button mouse and assigning it to a mouse button :)

[rock]

I don't know if we ever going to find anything easier than hitting z to undo. Looking and moving back in the history will take longer. If you have a lot of undos you want to do, then use the script editor where it has all the previous steps displayed. Then you can move or jump to any previous steps you want quickly.

Maybe as an alternative, you can get a Speech software and link it to the z undo key. Then just say or yell out "undo" to the microphone everytime you want to undo. If this works out well, we might want to create a link to "create a character" or "animate a crying character". This will be in the far future, I think. :)

[dzogchen]

What is so difficult to hit z on the keyboard?:rolleyes: :hmm:

[schmu_20mol]

well if hitting z is too troubleful why don't you just buy a wacom and place it under your desk and everytime when you want to undo something you push it with the pen between your toes ;)

:p :p :p

[Bulldog]

Good ideas everyone , keep em coming!

I also have a problem , Right now I am trying to find a way to easily open up maya without double clicking on its icon , its so hard to do that. Does anyone have a solution for that? I wanna click as less as possible , I have a thing for the click sound , kthnxbye

[SpaceFork]

Hey, great thread. I 've had a problem for a while, but I didn't know where to post the question...this looks like a good place for it. I want to find a way to start my computer without actually touching it or anything else, and without leaving my bed. Any help with this would be great. Also, if you could find a way for Maya to automatically make a demo reel for me(a good one) without me leaving my bed, that would be great too. Thanks in advance.

[dzogchen]

oh my god! My stomach is aching from laughing too hard! Keep it coming....:scream:

[SimonReeves]

why not adopt some small children to do it for you

[SheepFactory]

Great thread ,

I have a workaround , I bought a babboon from a pet shop , after a months training and watching me model everyday he learned when to press undo for me , I even cought the bastard animating my model when I am asleep , he is doing his demo reel or something ,

but its all worth it , cause pressing Z everytime you wanna undo is hard.


here is a pic I took just when maya crashed on him

http://www.dinofish.com/wmgallery/images/baboon%20jaws.jpg

[SimonReeves]

hehehe:thumbsup:

[Nemoid]

Originally posted by Sheep Factory
Great thread ,

I have a workaround , I bought a babboon from a pet shop , after a months training and watching me model everyday he learned when to press undo for me , I even cought the bastard animating my model when I am asleep , he is doing his demo reel or something ,

but its all worth it , cause pressing Z everytime you wanna undo is hard.


here is a pic I took just when maya crashed on him
[/IMG]

the only prob is when the baboon will get to be better than U in modelling!!!!:beer:
however my cat do the undo and press other keyboards shortcuts for me.

[mental]

when i get my ford pinto up to 88 mph i'm able to undo lots of things ;)

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/souljack3r/88mph.gif

-mental :surprised

[DigiLusionist]

Actually, having a baboon for an intern is NOT a good idea. I came back from a weekend at Vegas once, and found a stack of baboon butt photocopies strewn about. PLUS, anytime his girlfriend would come over to hang out, she'd just parade around, flaunting his colored nether region like a Calvin Klein model on a runway. VERY distracting...

[DigiLusionist]

I meant flaunting HER nether region. Dammit, they both present too much!!

[The Cross]

Originally posted by SpaceFork
Hey, great thread. I 've had a problem for a while, but I didn't know where to post the question...this looks like a good place for it. I want to find a way to start my computer without actually touching it or anything else, and without leaving my bed. Any help with this would be great. Also, if you could find a way for Maya to automatically make a demo reel for me(a good one) without me leaving my bed, that would be great too. Thanks in advance.


I couldn't think of a better question.:scream: !!!!

[Levitateme]

recently i realized HEY why do i have to have my arms resting on a desk, i could have something else do taht for me. so using a rudementry design borrowed off ieavernaufenmust lume' "1412" i constructed a clever pulley system enabling of fully locked arms, so now my effort of resting is not even up to me thanks ievernaufeeraeermust.

[Facial Deluxe]

Well I think the hardest thing is to explain to a total newby why you have to hit "start" to in fact turn off the computer with Windows system :surprised

[HONG KONGer]

It's sounds easy to hit the z key, but sometimes it really have a bit of trouble to do this.

In my case, I'm in the process of learning Maya. I place my Maya book on top of my Notbook's keyboard. If I have to press the z key, I think you can guess how trouble it would be for me to do it each time.

And for the people who has their keyboard below their desk. If they have to press the key, they will have to: (1)pull out the keyboard, (2) look down at the keyboard, (3) find the z key, (4) look back to the monitor. How trouble is it?

All I want is to create a little icon so that I can just click on it once and do the job.

[Levitateme]

serious if you are, drag i want undo script shelf command. thanks problems ill get rid of.

[modi]

I totally agree, i live in a shoe with my friend Greg who is a Ankylosaurus , a tree and a big fish. There is absolutely no place to keep my book except on the keyboard which by the way is in the basement in Czechoslovakia. Beleive me its really tedious to press the z key.

[anakinskywalker]

Yes for me its a huge problem.. my cat sits on my keyboard.. i keep books on my Wacom and I have curtains on my monitors. So imagine how difficult it is for me to do something simple as splitting a polygon face....

1. Pick up cat with right hand
2. Press space to get hotbar with left hand and pick books with chin and chest and hold the cat and the pen and move the cursor over my wacom to chose Split Polygon option in the menu, while using the left leg to move the curtains aside.
3. Now use left hand to press Alt and rotate the viewport and... aaaargghhh!!!!! crash !! my cat my cat.. sorry brb !!!:scream:

[womanonfire]

type

Undo;

in the Script Editor and MMB drag it to a shelf
or
attach it to a mouse menu/button.
This should solve your problem and shut everybody up.

[Levitateme]

thanks for the buzzkill woman on fire.

[SheepFactory]

Some people have no sense of humour :rolleyes:

[mental]

Originally posted by modi
I totally agree, i live in a shoe with my friend Greg who is a Ankylosaurus , a tree and a big fish. There is absolutely no place to keep my book except on the keyboard which by the way is in the basement in Czechoslovakia. Beleive me its really tedious to press the z key.
now that's a classic. :cool:

[SpaceFork]

Originally posted by HONG KONGer

And for the people who has their keyboard below their desk. If they have to press the key, they will have to: (1)pull out the keyboard, (2) look down at the keyboard, (3) find the z key, (4) look back to the monitor. How trouble is it?



You know, I've been doin that for a while now and I've never realized how truly inefficient it was. To fix the problem, I now have my keyboard drawer setup with a complex sytem of pullys that are tied to my fingers, so whenever i need to get my keyboard out I just put four fingers up and six fingers down. Voila! However, this makes it incredibly difficult to hit that dreaded "Z" key (after I finally find it), because when I go to hit it, the keyboard slides back in. I've sent this bug into AW and am waiting for a reply, but if anyone has some sort of workaround please let me know.

[HONG KONGer]

Some people being helpless here and just fooling around and say useless things here.

thanks for your help womanonfire

[Tom N.]

Originally posted by HONG KONGer
Some people being helpless here and just fooling around and say useless things here.

thanks for your help womanonfire


Yes some people are being asses... but man, you gotta admit its hilarious lol. This is one of the funniest threads I've ever seen.

But seriously... you're asking how to make hitting one key easier! And you were answered in the first couple replies anyhoo.

-Tom N.

[womanonfire]

he does not have to "admit" anything.
nobody ever did even answer his question, just made rude remarks without trying to understand his problem.
and no, i do not have *any* sense of humor.

buzzkill?

[anakinskywalker]

ummm.... In that case Space fork also has a geniune problem.
But womanonfire, the question it self did not make sense. The better thing would be getting a bookholder and putting it beside your monitor. Why does he have to put the book on his keyboard?
And I guess he "should" be using the z key instead of clicking icons. Hongkonger you might also want to consider learning the Hotbox and keyboard in general if you want to get anything done in Maya or anywhere for that matter.

----------------------------------
Some people being helpless here and just fooling around and say useless things here.
---------------------------------
Wonder who that applies to.. ;)

btw is that a PLE you are running on your notebook?

[SheepFactory]

Originally posted by womanonfire
he does not have to "admit" anything.
nobody ever did even answer his question, just made rude remarks without trying to understand his problem.
and no, i do not have *any* sense of humor.

buzzkill?


www.prozac.com


:thumbsup:

Pikachu?

[HONG KONGer]

Originally posted by Tom N.
This is one of the funniest threads I've ever seen.

But seriously... you're asking how to make hitting one key easier!
I've already explained why I don't want to hit the z key and I don't find it's funny at all.

[Matt Leishman]

you guys have just made my morning, i'm going to print this thread off and post it on the wall, just so I can have a great laugh every now and then!!

LMAO!!!!!! :beer:

[Soeren Nielsen]

I have this really nifty workaround for not being able to hit the "Z" key .. bind it to a,s,d,x,c and you should cover a bit more ground, you would even be able to hit it with your entire hand now.

[ceql]

Originally posted by womanonfire
nobody ever did even answer his question, just made rude remarks without trying to understand his problem.


Huh? but... What about MOI!!! :p

Originally posted by ceql
Add it to your shelf, or I recommend getting a 5 button mouse and assigning it to a mouse button :)

/me ams friendly to everyone ;) ;)

I'm sure noone meant anything malicious, just poking fun :D

[SimonReeves]

can you see the screen if the book is on the keyboard?

or do you use an intricate system of mirrors

[HONG KONGer]

Originally posted by reeves1984
can you see the screen if the book is on the keyboard?
Why not? You can try it yourself.

[SimonReeves]

I would, but i'd have to find another key for undo..

[MDuffy]

There are so many other keys that are useful on the keyboard in addition to undo, that I think it is probably best for you to learn to work with a keyboard instead of working around it. For example, how in the world are you moving around your viewports without the Alt key? How do you pull up the hotbox without spacebar? How do you select multiple verts without shift and control and dragging?

In all seriousness, I think your best bet is to put your book somewhere other than on top of your keyboard.

And if you have a keyboard drawer, I'd suggest getting a better desk. :p Or a wireless keyboard if you need to move the keyboard out of the way that often.


Cheers,
Michael Duffy
mduffy@ionet.net

[womanonfire]

Mr. Sheep Factory "Admin"
nice to know that one can be harassed by an admin around here.
i do not do drugs.
perhaps you do?

[Savage_Henry]

personally..I've rigged my undo key to the garage door opener. It's pretty handy until I lose it. Then I have to get up and run to the garage everytime I screw up. Sometimes if my neighbor isn't busy I get her to stand in my garage and hit the button. She doesn't like it too much, but shes old as has nothing better to do.

I like the drapes on the monitor idea...great for those sunny days. :thumbsup:

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by womanonfire
Mr. Sheep Factory "Admin"
nice to know that one can be harassed by an admin around here.
i do not do drugs.
perhaps you do?


Perhaps you should do drugs! ,

chill out dude , everyone else is having a good time , its all light hearted humour. Stop being such a crybaby please.

[womanonfire]

i don't think the person who originally posted the question feels that it is "lighthearted" at all.

and neither do i.

to HONGKONGer
how to delete a thread:
-go to your original entry and hit the edit button.
-delete the text.

[SimonReeves]

http://www.internetshopping.com/suppliers/78/handbag.jpg

[ZeroNeuro]

Well the first post covered all the answers. I mean if he wants to lay the book over the keyboard to learn then he's going to run into so many problems. Pretty much all the keys do something. If this is teh way he wants to work I suggest investing in a music stand.


Originally posted by womanonfire
he does not have to "admit" anything.
nobody ever did even answer his question, just made rude remarks without trying to understand his problem.

[Nemoid]

i don't think putting the book over the keyboard is a good idea because this can crash the keyboard buttons, at a long term.also i love keyboard shortcuts so much.

however, what the hell everyone can do what he thinks. map undo in a shelf and use your mouse to hit the button.:thumbsup:

[ceql]

Originally posted by womanonfire
Mr. Sheep Factory "Admin"
nice to know that one can be harassed by an admin around here.
i do not do drugs.
perhaps you do?

ehh? That wasn't harassment!!
and btw, Sheep Factory does a great job around here! :beer: :applause:

hmm I had the problem of not enough deskspace too once... So I actually added a whole other table in front of my existing desk (No, really!!), so I can now fit keyboard, mouse, wacom, several books, and speakers on the desk all at once now!

[Levitateme]

i think i read on here someone had troubles with there keyboard under there desk? they said soemthing about having to look at it? im sure most will agree with me, the more you learn maya "3d" you get the keys memorized, then you never have to look. if i need to snap a vertice, i dont have to look if i need to go into object mode anything i rarley rarley look. so i dont think it would be a problem, once you start learning were everything is and its so repetitive, the need to look is not realy needed. im just saying i dont think its a problem.

[SpaceFork]

Golly jeepers, I never meant to hurt anyone (except that one homeless guy in Boise). HONG KONGer you've got 84 posts under your belt, you'd think someone who spent that kind of time on these boards would know what kind of response an absurd question like this would get. "Can you make Undo easier?" the answer is "no" there's nothing easier than hitting ONE KEY. Move the book off your keyboard and that'll fix your problems (well, at least the undo problem). Here's a few suggestions: move the book to the side of the keyboard, or put it on your lap, tie it to a dog, or put it in a fish tank..there are so many choices and all of them are better than putting it on your keyboard. Besides, MDuffy was right...how the hell do you get ANYTHING done with crap all over your keyboard. Use your artistic creativity to come up with a soloution until Microsoft Mindreader© comes out or get womanonfire all doped up and have him/her/it come over and press the key for you.

Ritalin: It's not just for kids anymore :bounce:

[modi]

Originally posted by SpaceFork
. Use your artistic creativity to come up with a soloution until Microsoft Mindreader© comes out or get womanonfire all doped up and have him/her/it come over and press the key for you.

lol,yeah why don't u guys(honkonger & womanonfire) hook up and figure out the mystery of the undo button and leave this thread be. Would be a shame to delete this thread.

[anakinskywalker]

Originally posted by womanonfire
i don't think the person who originally posted the question feels that it is "lighthearted" at all.

and neither do i.

to HONGKONGer
how to delete a thread:
-go to your original entry and hit the edit button.
-delete the text.


Yeah !!! but you cant press the z key here !! :p Much less map it to any mouse button or something like that.

Hongkonger ... tell me when you start learning MELScript. Oh boy !! given your aversion for keyboard its gonna be fun :D

Ok back to serious business boys...
I am saving this thread as a .mht incase it gets deleted :p

[mental]

Originally posted by modi
Would be a shame to delete this thread. yes it would be a shame to see this thread deleted. in fact this thread should be stickied :beer:

[ceql]

you could always use the Windows accessbility features! :p
(Then you could even do MEL... well, real sloooowly...)

http://users.bigpond.net.au/sequel/OnscreenKeyboard.gif

[schmu_20mol]

Originally posted by womanonfire
Mr. Sheep Factory "Admin"
nice to know that one can be harassed by an admin around here.
i do not do drugs.
perhaps you do?

hey just calm down, eh? :hmm:
it's just a joke....btw if you call him 'Mr.' then he'll feel a lot older so just stick to dude (at least i think) he won't mind :D

have fun and some :beer:

[HONG KONGer]

I think the best way is to assign the undo command to my 4D mouse button, but my mouse doesn't have a software with it, is it possible to do it in Maya?

[The Cross]

HONG KONGer. You'll never advance at a video game if you don't hold the controller....The same for all 3D software.

If you want to get far with Maya, you have to keep in mind that your working with a mouse and Keyboard.

Here is a faw tips....


- You needn't memorize every single key...Just start with these...

Q W E R T Y - These key's ( yes the ones on your keyboard ) are a simplistic way to selecting your basic tools.


When working with Maya. It's best to keep one and on the mouse, and the other hand on the keyboard.....


- Basically keep your thumb rested on the ALT key right under the Z button.

Leaving your hand there eliminates the need to make your arm travel back and fourth from the keyboard. It grants you easy access to the z button and the space bar and just about every other key.

You must change you state of mind when working with Maya as well. In other words don't be lazy with it...Just hit the key and get it over with.

This time around i'm really trying to help you out. Keep the books off the keyboard and you'll be respecting yourself.

Forget moving the undo button anywhere else...It's perfect where it is now....And remember "LEAVE THE THUMB ON THE ALT KEY". Try it for 15 minutes a day at the least, and if you don't pick it up within a day or 2..Then there is no hope for you being prouductive with Maya no matter what you know about it.

[Nemoid]

The first time i used Maya, i was happy to see that there were some clever keyboard shortcut. z as undo is great, and qwerty system is good!!! i hate clicking in icons (ok, maybe this derive from my use of Lightwave and expecially in modeler i use only shortcuts.) Hongkonger you will not believe how speed becomes your workflow with shortcuts!!!!!!!:thumbsup:
learn them and make your life easier.:)

[S|Ming]

Dont be misunderstood...
Not everyone in Hong Kong having trouble in pressing the Z key...
Im sure that the other 5999999+ people in HK can definitely find somewhere else to keep the book beside on the keyboard including me!:thumbsup:

Åö°÷°ÕHong Konger:shame: ,¤ñ¤H¯º°Õ...

[anakinskywalker]

Originally posted by Bulldog
Good ideas everyone , keep em coming!

I also have a problem , Right now I am trying to find a way to easily open up maya without double clicking on its icon , its so hard to do that. Does anyone have a solution for that? I wanna click as less as possible , I have a thing for the click sound , kthnxbye

Ok I have decided to take everything seriously :p

Bulldog.. i would recommend you dragging the Maya icon to the Taskbar in Windows ..more specifically to the quick launch bar. So you can save one click. You just have to single click now.

Have a look here


Another option will be adding Maya to startup folder in the Start Menu :p

[HONG KONGer]

I understand hotkeys are important and I'll be happy to memorize and master all hotkeys in Maya. But the design of my desk just don't allow me to put my book aside.

Now I have already put undo in the "custom" shelf tab but I have to switch to that tab everytime I use it. I would like to know how to put it on the thin toolbar on top of the shelf or map it to my 4D mouse.

And if you are not going to give out answer then keep silent so you won't waste your and my time in this thread.

[S|Ming]

So we have no right to post anything because YOU think our posts is not an answer for you?You own this forum?We are wasting your time?Actually YOU are wasting your time,you put the goddamn book on the keyboard(please put it somewhere else or just throw it away,dont use it),you cant use/learn to use hotkeys.
And let me tell you honestly,your question is extremely stupid and crazy!Why stupid?First,you put a book on the keyboard and whine about you cant press the z key,and you dont like any answer provided by everyone,and let me tell you,if ur gonna learn maya,you have to use A LOT OF hotkeys,so please remove your book from the goddamn keyboard!Second,it can be solved easily by anyone who have the IQ higher than 30.
That's why people dont bother answering you.Im really shame on you.
So you want some answer?Here are few tips,if I have not enough space on the desk,I'd...
1.)Switch off your notebook,read the maya book,until u notice there are a undo icon(Put it on the toolbar?Not until you can write your own script!),then turn on your notebook,put the book back on your keyboard.
2.)Go and get a chair,put the chair near you,and put the book on the chair.So you can touch the z key,and read the book.
3.)Go and kill urself.

[schmu_20mol]

Originally posted by S|Ming

.........
3.)Go and kill urself.

hey hey...what was once a funny thread turns now more and more into senseless flaming - with which i partly agree :twisted: ....

just cool down :bounce:

[The Cross]

*Laughs*

S|Ming, no need to feel ashamed. People from Hong Kong are well known for being intelligent world wide.

Which makes this case a great Anomaly.

[anakinskywalker]

UNDO RELOADED.... The Fun Continues ... @


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=664242#post664242


:bounce: Another gem in making ?

[MDuffy]

Put the book in your lap. Seriously.

Or read it somewhere else and then go try the techniques on your computer. If you can't retain info from the time you set down the book to the time you go over to your keyboard, then you have more problems than where to put your book.

Or use the online tutorials and swap between them and Maya. That's how I learned Maya. No book needed.

Trying to avoid using your keyboard is a monumental waste of your time. Seriously.


Cheers,
Michael Duffy

[koinu]

You know I had some very serious questions to ask about work flow and how to set up certain mel commands to work for me. Well after long hours of staring directly at maya so wanting her to make a simple cube I decided to run over to the quikMart and apply for a gas pumper job. Hey Hey they called and seems that I have a job now. SO 3D can just goto the guys that marry and never see their signifigant others. Well folks it's time for me to put on that dreaded grey costume and pump some gas into some random vacationers car at Disney. Hey maybe I'll meet a ceo and he'll give me a job working on cg........hehe BTW my maya books became my new 6" tv's stand, they're great for that... and the Watcom is my new coffee coaster..

[modi]

Originally posted by anakinskywalker
UNDO RELOADED.... The Fun Continues ... @


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=664242#post664242


:bounce: Another gem in making ?

:bounce: :buttrock:
Anyone wants to employ Mr Hongkonger. Give this man a job.

[Klark]

HongKonger: Have you considered making tiny holes in your book, small enough to not ruin the text, but at the same time big enough so you can poke through them with a straw from your local McDonalds. This could solve your problem.

But that´s only if you have room for a straw.

[SheepFactory]

ok enough with this thread ,

Hong Konger , while we welcome all sorts of questions and try to help as best as we can , but the questions you keep on asking can be very easily answered by checking the manual , or by going through the maya essentials book (which you should be doing).

So dont give us the "dont waste my time" attitude , or we wont waste our time and reply to your other pointless posts.

Those of you who are thinking i am being too strict can PM me to sort it out , But my priority is to keep the maya board clean and helpful for everyone.

[Nemoid]

Hey!

what's happening in this thread??!! seems the same thing wich happened in the Lw forum just since some month ago.this means going crap.
I hate personal attacks. people doesn't waste time answering even to silly questions.if they do so, people asking can only say thanks to them for sharing their knowledge to everyone.

hongkonger, u got great replies at first, so if u don't want even to use your mouse, find a better place to put your book, or even read first and then remember what u read.

your keyboard also is larger than an opened book. so the z key can be left free put it on the right side.

any pro use the keyboard shortcuts to speed the workflow in every package, even windows OS so since u will find that u will HAVE to use them, why not starting now?
also u will have to read other books, and so this thing will keep on forever if u don't find an easy place to put your book.

i am talking seriously. i also had a very small desk.
i bought one new large desk 3 years ago, and so i have the place i need for books.

so with this, i gave to u 2 solutions to solve the prob. choose one pls.

cheers.

[koinu]

I say Listen to Sheep Factory (I totally understand your point) that you need to refer to your manual for help and in maya hit F1... Buy or get a desk that is big enough, place chairs near by and for GAWD's sack be kind to your fellow CGer's. Ypu never know when you'll apply to the company that one of works at..... Peace out Fellow CGER's................ NUFFSAID...END THIS THREAD...