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rsquires
10-31-2008, 05:18 AM
I just spent most of this morning fixing After Effects CS3 after mistakenly installing Avid Codecs 1.8 on my Mac Pro running 10.4.11. It had a total meltdown, as the mediacore somehow got corrupted, and the only way to fix it was to uninstall all the Avid Codecs and After Effects. I then installed an earlier version of the Avid codecs after much grief with it not working ( had to run the Avid Uninstaller) and then de activated AE and trashed it. Installed AE again and it works.

I now have it working but the reason I upgraded was to get Alpha channels working with the Avid DNxHD codec. I have tried it numerous times and it will output the file but won't output an Alpha channel. I am not using 16 bit which I know is an issue. So my questions are has anyone got this to work with 10.4.11 and CS3 8.02. Which are the latest compatible avid codecs for Mac that are fully compatible with 10.4.11. I have to say Avid's site is a good example of how to bamboozle you. The Mac codecs are so hard to find, and information although extensive doesn't really give you the details about OSX Tiger or Leopard compatibilty.

If anyone uses the Avid DNxHD with alpha channel workflow it would be great to know if for instance the only codecs that do this are only Leopard compatible. If there is no Tiger support then I guess I'll just have to think of another route


all the best

rich

Mylenium
10-31-2008, 11:12 AM
We use Avids, but we're on PC, so I cannot provide any insights. I'm sorry for your traumatic experience, sounds quite painful.

Mylenium

rsquires
10-31-2008, 01:31 PM
We use Avids, but we're on PC, so I cannot provide any insights. I'm sorry for your traumatic experience, sounds quite painful.

Mylenium

Ah Mr Mylenium

I actually went on your site as it has a page about various After Effects error messages and helped me immensely.

Fortunately for now all is back to normal. There was a moment I thought I was going to have to install the whole system again.

I was hoping you'd have maybe an idea. Do you know anyone in the AE community who uses a Mac who you might be able to glean some information from. I really am stuck with Avids web-site and it is truly awful when you want to get a straight answer. There are no instructions for installing and no read me's for the codecs to give you any idea about system compatibility

Anyway thanks for the reply. As always you're a great asset to the AE community


all the best

rich

Mylenium
10-31-2008, 07:48 PM
I would love to help, but Macs are almost non-existant in video editing in the area where I live (not counting old Meridian-based Mac-Avids, of course). Again, sorry. All I can recommend is to contact your Avid reseller. Unfortunately Avid keep a tight lid on everything, so only those people gain access to insider information. Depending on how nice they are, they may be willing to share that info even if you're not on a service contract (one other such thing that's crazy about Avid...)

Mylenium

Zendorf
11-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Hey Rich...I recognise you from the C4d forum.

At Beyond, where I work we deliver all of our gfx in the DnxHd format so I am well versed in its occasional anomalies. I have found that sometimes when I render out of AE straight to Dnx that there are artifacts and wierd things like black frames etc. Now I always render out of AE with animation codec, I convert this to Dnx using quicktime Pro with no problems.

Up until few weeks ago I was running a 4core Mac with 10.4 but recently upgraded to an 8core with 10.5. I have had problems with Dnx codec just giving a blank file and haven't quite gotten to the bottom of it. Been meaning to re-install DnxHd from the Avid site , so not sure if there are conflicts with Leopard and Dnx?

rsquires
11-05-2008, 07:47 AM
Hey Rich...I recognise you from the C4d forum.

At Beyond, where I work we deliver all of our gfx in the DnxHd format so I am well versed in its occasional anomalies. I have found that sometimes when I render out of AE straight to Dnx that there are artifacts and wierd things like black frames etc. Now I always render out of AE with animation codec, I convert this to Dnx using quicktime Pro with no problems.

Up until few weeks ago I was running a 4core Mac with 10.4 but recently upgraded to an 8core with 10.5. I have had problems with Dnx codec just giving a blank file and haven't quite gotten to the bottom of it. Been meaning to re-install DnxHd from the Avid site , so not sure if there are conflicts with Leopard and Dnx?

Hi there

that was what I was going to do, render animation then convert in Quicktime Pro. With the renders you do, did they come with alphas. If so can you tell me which version of the Avid Codecs you have installed on the 4 core mac running 10.4. I am Avid DnxHD Codec v1.4.0.0. as when I installed 1.8 everything wigged out. However I think it was because I didn't restart after the install. Since it's a Quicktime plugin I think this is an important step.

That's interesting to know. I have a feeling there is an update to 1.9 or even 1.10 for Leopard. But Avid's site is so crap for mac support.

Thanks for the info and if you can get back I'd appreciate it

regards

rich

Zendorf
11-07-2008, 08:23 AM
Hey Rich,

Sorry for the tardy reply, it's been one of those weeks:shrug: Still haven't been able to get Dnx working on my 8 core Leopard machine. I have even tried installing the PE codecs given to me by the head online editor here. I have uninstalled and re-installed many times but to no avail. The weird thing is that QT pro is encoding it and the file size looks right, but it is all just black frames. No one else here is running 10.5 so I am guessing that there is an incompatibility problem?

As far as 10.4 OSX , it runs 1.4.0.0 and 1.8.0.0 fine..of course you need the lastest 1.8.0.0 to get alpha channel support which works fine here btw. What I did notice was that in the QT folder in the library that both 1.4 an 1.8 codecs were in there, so maybe install 1.8 over 1.4 rather than uninstalling the old codec.

Hope that helps...

rsquires
11-08-2008, 10:19 AM
I have installed 1.10 version of the Avid codecs for 10.5.5 and it is working perfectly for me. I downloaded the codecs from the Avid site, installed and restarted. Fingers crossed all seems to be working fine. I have looked at the alpha which works perfectly and there are no black frames. I think I am using the LE versions so maybe that's the deal. If you do a search on the Avis site for Leopard it should bring you to a page where you can download the 1.10 update.

I am not installing it on 10.4.11 for the moment, as the last time I did it all hell broke loose. At present my workflow is render out to animation in AE on my Tiger partition then re boot into Leopard to create the DNxHD versions. Sounds kind of long winded but it is working and for the moment while things are crazy deadline wise this will have to do. I am waiting for a break and then I will install AE CS4 on the Leopard partition.

Since Adobe introduced the new activation system I have been unable to do my usual thing which is to install it on the new Leopard disc while I sort out compatibility issues, and still have it installed on the Tiger disc. I have my second version of it installed on a G5 so that's my 2 installs. This is one of the more annoying aspects of Adobes DRM that makes paying customers like myself tear their hair out in frustration.

enough ranting

all the best

rich

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