The next challenge will be...

[TimCallaway]

Hard? That's a good thing. =]

[simjoy]

I don't think we will be getting a lot of entries...-R :shrug:

is that the best way to run a competition ?? ;)

[Extraneous]

:shrug:

is that the best way to run a competition ?? ;)

I've never really thought of this as a competition, more an exercise to help the members improve by either taking part or in following the threads of those participating. Besides, how much can you really improve by taking on only those projects that you know you can do well? Why not push yourself with something that might at first glance be too tough?

Besides, it isn't the Hardcore Modeling Competition, but the Hardcore Modeling Challenge... ;)

[robo3687]

i like a challenge.....30 models in 30 days was a challenge.....this sounds much worse....which is excellent...

[simjoy]

Besides, it isn't the Hardcore Modeling Competition, but the Hardcore Modeling Challenge... ;)fair point, but technically if you run an event in which the result is decided by a public vote, and a winner is declared, then surely its a competition ...

anyway, hard is fine by me as long as there are equal opportunities for hard and soft surface modellers ..

[RobertoOrtiz]

anyway, hard is fine by me as long as there are equal opportunities for hard and soft surface modellers ..

Funny that you mention that....

-R

[ChewyPixels]

My guess is that it will be all hard surface. Right, Roberto? ;)

[DDS]

the 30 models thing might have been cool as hardcore building but hella boring to create :P

Plus totally useless for most portfolios :\

Looking forward to see what's in Roberto's head.

[RobertoOrtiz]

Trust me if you guys finish these models they will be portfolio pieces...

[Sova]

Come on Roberto tell us :bounce:

[RobertoOrtiz]

I cant because I dont want people to start modeling now....


But I would suggest to subscribe to this thread...
On November 1st I will post the topic.
that way people can start looking for reference...And trsut me, that part will be QUITE HARD.

-R

[korthuran]

Just finding reference is going to be hard?

...I'm not at an advanced skill level yet but hell this has me wanting to try it just for the hell of it. I'm in even if mine sucks.

[vshen]

My guess I reckon will be Transformers. I would totally be in for that. Even if it's not I love these challenges even though i haven't completed any of it. lol!

[Sova]

Ya i also have tansformers in my mind as a posible guess for the next challenge. I hope thats true cuz id love to work on it :)

[robo3687]

i have transformer makin experience....which might just come in handy

[RobertoOrtiz]

We will do Transformers eventually , but it is NOT the next challenge.


:)

-R

[RageOfAges]

I can't wait 'til november 1st!!

[Nothingness]

sounds fun,

but i'm a little confused: is it the habit of havind 2 challenges at the same time?
I just checked the current one and looks like the end date is the 17th. Or am i reading the wrong info?

cheers

[RobertoOrtiz]

sounds fun,

but i'm a little confused: is it the habit of havind 2 challenges at the same time?
I just checked the current one and looks like the end date is the 17th. Or am i reading the wrong info?

cheers

You are completly right.

I just want to give a heads up to our regulars so they can start seeking reference.
-R

[farazmobin]

how about some clues other than it being hard...we promise we wont start early roberto :drool:

[DaezD]

hehe, he's just getting everybody hooked

[LCAmaral]

Hard is good, levels everything up.

Better subscribe this anyway.

[sapienz]

Is the topic somewhat related to the DailySketchGroups?

[RobertoOrtiz]

Not this time...

I want this time to do a challenge for a group of modelers we have neglected here for a while..

[WyattHarris]

Oh reeeeeally, the plot thickens.

[nookienick]

Wow such a tease... lol and to think November is the first HMC I have time to participate in... Sounds like either it'll push my modeling skills to great heights or kill my soul and make me fail my final exams :(

Anyway, I'm thinking the theme is something totally messed up like model an aether monster, or a five dimensional person, or something that's so hard to conceptualise that visualising it in 3D will make us go loony. Sounds fun!

More realistically though, probably something abstract, or architectural, or abstract architecture, or some weird alien environment and non-character related lol based on this:
I want this time to do a challenge for a group of modelers we have neglected here for a while..

[DDS]

uhm...? I can't think of any type of modeler having been neglected here, apart from environment related, vehicles, etc. :thumbsup:

[WyattHarris]

Well its not those that push for more classical stuff as we did the Louve challenge, hmm.

[RageOfAges]

I'm guessing we will have to model the scientologist god ( forget his name ). It must be the scientologists we've been ignoring...

[RobertoOrtiz]

We will revisit classical stuff soon

For future challenfe I was thinking of things like

Trasures of Acient Greece (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0geu5A4SQNJ1SkAAPNXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=ancient%20greek%20%20sculpture&y=Search&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-109)
Treasures of the Met (http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0geu6GBSQNJcCkAR3dXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=Met%20sculpture&y=Search&fr2=tab-web&fr=yfp-t-109)...
Master sculptor Michelangelo Tribute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo).
But that is in the future...
For now we will do a more technical challenge.

[robo3687]

oo...technical....

[RobertoOrtiz]

oo...technical....
Yep...
we have not done of of those FOR A LONG time.

But this one will be a monster....
I will be surprised If we get 3 finished entries.
-R

[TimCallaway]

Oh boy... I'm gonna rip my hair out waitng for the first lol :banghead:

[DDS]

can't think much about this, still struggling on how the hell I'm gonna finish the current one...

[Sova]

HI it's 1st of November i think there is something you should do Roberto.

Tell us about the next challenge :bounce:

[urban-rebellion]

yeah roberto you got us all curious! :) now that its after nov 1st lets hear what the new challange is...

[RobertoOrtiz]

as promised


http://www.cpluv.com/www/medias/nrb/nrb_47a1f69b301d1.jpg

the topic will be,
cutaway...

-R

[MrJames]

I'm presuming this won't be specifically limited to cars.. so the human body could be done too?

[simjoy]

I'm presuming this won't be specifically limited to cars.. so the human body could be done too?not limited to cars, but Roberto did state a couple posts back it would be "technical" modelling challenge, which probably excludes organic modelling , although im sure Roberto will clarify ...

I'd better start some research .. :)

[MrJames]

Well I don't know about you, but I think internal anatomy is extremely technical.

http://pstchoart.cgsociety.org/gallery/441551/

[simjoy]

fair point...
anyway my impression from his posts was he meant hard surface modelling, but i may be wrong ..

.. it wouldn't be the first time .. :)

[Clanger]

as promised


http://www.cpluv.com/www/medias/nrb/nrb_47a1f69b301d1.jpg

the topic will be,
cutaway...

-R


No excuses this is my field so huge shame on me if I don't come up with something.
Can't wait.

[DaezD]

Can't wait to see yours then Clanger (fnnerr ffnner). Love the portfolio peice

[moonangel]

is it limited to cars, or is, maybe, ships, airplanes or even computers or cameras also valid?

[WyattHarris]

Oh wow. :eek:

Not sure I can compete. Never tried it, no experience with it. Which means its a perfect time to start. :D

[Airflow]

Its probably going to be more complex than a car, maybey a helicopter or fighter aircraft, or something achitectural maybey, a national monument.
P.s.
Are we missing someone here :P

[spiritmouse]

Not sure if I'll be participating this time, but I'm curious, can we do cutaway of organic things, like plants or animals? How about food? like cutaway of a wedding cake?

[Firerbert]

I've already risked my marriage over my art show, this challenge could end in a divorce. I think I'll have to pass, yet again.

[olwynn]

I hadn't thought about this for a long time. Stumbled across it ages ago. Cutaway for a Carnival cruise lines ship... all done with illustrator.

http://www.khulsey.com/demo_1howto.html

[TimCallaway]

Right on, this will be a very good challenge =]

[DDS]

GREAT!!!

Oh man I have some cool ideas. Cutaway is such a generic topic, finally we have some room for innovation, not sure it's the best challenge for me though. I've got some characters pending for my personal portfolio.

Sure this is freaking HARDCORE, we'll see what people comes up with!!

[Rockalicious]

OOoooh...I'm glad I have this (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Complete_Cross-Sections) book!

[RobertoOrtiz]

Wel I am glad you gus like it.


you can model ANY machine, but the cutaway has to be based in SOLID research.

I might allow some organic models depending on the interest

[chrisbeaver]

Oh, confound and blast... This is a hardcore one, no doubt. And again I'd be stupid not to enter it and learn something, but man, I can barely keep up with working out the current challenge! I know that's the point of these things though; learning to work better, faster.

We'll see what I can come up with.

[Airflow]

Hmmm, what about a cyborg, Id love to do somyhing half machine. :)

[nonAnon]

**looks around house for objects I can take a saw to**

I'm keen to enter, see how busy my month is looking.

[TimCallaway]

Hey Roberto, when does this next challenge go live?

[robo3687]

well colour me interested.....

i'm officially dropping out of the current challenge (even though I haven't worked on it for weeks anyway) to research for this one.....

*digs out all his DK cross-section books*

[shawnzer]

Any word on start date and deadlines? Any restrictions on difficulty requirement? Lawn mower Small engine vs Ferrari engine?

[MysticDread]

Incredible!

Fabulous choice on the next topic.

[RobertoOrtiz]

Hey Roberto, when does this next challenge go live?

In about two weeks..

you all may seek reference until them...

[TwoOneOne]

count me in :)
i guess nurbs modelling is ok?

Cheers

[Jay-Mo]

Wel I am glad you gus like it.


you can model ANY machine, but the cutaway has to be based in SOLID research.

I might allow some organic models depending on the interest


This is a very cool challange, but does this mean it has to something real life? You can't do something like a futuristic vehicle, or a mech, or anything sci-fi.

[RobertoOrtiz]

This is a very cool challange, but does this mean it has to something real life? You can't do something like a futuristic vehicle, or a mech, or anything sci-fi.

I would prefer real life...but if there is enough interest for fantasy I will allow it...BUT
it would have to be based on established scifi franchises (Aliens, Trek, Star Wars) and it has to based on blueperints and other sort of research material.

You build it, you provide the research. No shortcuts

count me in :)
i guess nurbs modelling is ok?

Cheers

Yes, you can use any method you want.

And BTW to all DONT JUMP THE GUN YET.

Do research and gather reference material for your model in the next twp weeks.
You will need to provide it with your entry.

[Clanger]

You build it, you provide the research. No shortcuts



My favourite choice at the moment (May Change) is the HMS Victory and the main reference will be from a book 'The 100-Gun Ship Victory (Anatomy of the Ship Series) by John McKay'
Search on Amazon.com and you can do a look inside.

The Question is: this book has copyright issues so it would be dodgy to just scan some of it and post it here so how do we get around the 'you provide the research'? Is, that's the book I'm using statement enough?

[TwoOneOne]

@clanger: Just had a look at your portfolio and it looks like this upcoming HMC is right up your alley. :D

Cheers

[RobertoOrtiz]

My favourite choice at the moment (May Change) is the HMS Victory and the main reference will be from a book 'The 100-Gun Ship Victory (Anatomy of the Ship Series) by John McKay'
Search on Amazon.com and you can do a look inside.

The Question is: this book has copyright issues so it would be dodgy to just scan some of it and post it here so how do we get around the 'you provide the research'? Is, that's the book I'm using statement enough?

Provide a link to the amazong listing of the book.
And if the book is out of print, at least describe your research process.
-R

[Clanger]

So, how's everyone getting on? I'm all set for my HMS Victory attempt. Anyone having trouble founding what they need? Maybe someone else can help. I know how difficult it can be getting enough info on what things look like on the inside, a few photo's rarely do it.

[ZaneV]

Yeah I am looking forward to this challenge, I hope to make a portfolio piece out of it. Anyway I'm having a crack at the old Sikorsky S-16 and I found a great website full of photos of the thing from nearly every useful possible angle. Also training/working in the aviation industry does help with the understanding of how components are fitted and what they look like so I am pretty much all set to go!

Clanger: Wow, nice portfolio mate! It seems that these cutaway projects aren't new to you but still the HMS Victory will be a quite a challenge so good luck with it!

[WyattHarris]

I cut out the research portion by picking one of my personal items. No hints yet though. :D

[Clanger]

Yeah I am looking forward to this challenge, I hope to make a portfolio piece out of it. Anyway I'm having a crack at the old Sikorsky S-16 and I found a great website full of photos of the thing from nearly every useful possible angle. Also training/working in the aviation industry does help with the understanding of how components are fitted and what they look like so I am pretty much all set to go!

Clanger: Wow, nice portfolio mate! It seems that these cutaway projects aren't new to you but still the HMS Victory will be a quite a challenge so good luck with it!


I came close to going for the 'Sikorsky HH-53C Super Jolly' but I knew I'd struggle for internal reference and with the short time these challenges get it would have probably de-railed the project.
Plus something I've wanted to do for as long as I can remember and I'm talking pre-computer here, I used to do these things with pencil and ink, is a Gas Turbine engine but where would you get the plans to build one, especially the sort of thing you'd find inside an airliner.

[ZaneV]

Clanger: That is such as coincidence as I was going to do that very same aircraft, I even bought a old aircraft book with a cutaway of the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion and top, side and front schematics of the HH-53C Super Jolly.

Let me know if you are still interested and I can upload them for you

[Clanger]

Clanger: That is such as coincidence as I was going to do that very same aircraft, I even bought a old aircraft book with a cutaway of the Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion and top, side and front schematics of the HH-53C Super Jolly.

Let me know if you are still interested and I can upload them for you

Thanks for the offer but that's the very same ref I do have but decided it wasn't enough to do an accurate job of it and I couldn't find anything else.

[ZaneV]

Ah yes, my thoughts were similar.

Anyway hows everyone else going? I wonder how many entries into this challenge there will be, its certainly something different

[moonangel]

Currently trying to find References for the "Vulture" Battlemech, ok its not a "real" Object, but original Blueprints from FASA exist, its only hard to get onto them for FASA doesn't exist anymore, and even though it's not real, it's the only thing i could motivate myself to do, if i participate in the next challenge. (I don't want to model Cars or Airplanes or that stuff.)

We will see, how many, how detailed reference i can get on to, and then, if it is enough to make a model of it :cool:

[OwenEgan]

I'm struggling to find something to do. I was going to make this a portfolio peice. I was thinking of doing an American Civil War Ironclad, as that is sort of what I used to be into. But I wanted to be able to show that I can make something (relatively) modern.


So I was thinking of Submarines and Spacecraft (the Lunar Module was one). But that is going to take forever to get right. I don't want to do a cutaway that is basically the shape filled with lots of colored boxes. But if I do a proper job, Its going to take me WAYYYYY more than one month to pull off at the amount of time I have to do this. basically I've got about 12 hours a week to work on the project.

The other option I had was an MP3 player. But thats going to be really simple. Probably too simple. I do have the option of having worked for SanDisk so I have lots of examples I can take apart to get the details right! :D

[ZaneV]

I'm not sure if it has already been mentioned but is there an approximate start date for Challenge #18?

[RobertoOrtiz]

Soon....

Give me at least one week.
-R

[RobertoOrtiz]

We go live on the new challenge in 48 hours...

-R

[buryme]

would I be allowed to do a car engine?

I'm thinking of doing something like this if so

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1336/enginecutawaygp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks.

[robo3687]

We go live on the new challenge in 48 hours...

-R

awesome....now I have to finish getting prepared for it....

[Digitool]

Bit ambitious are we? haha. Man I'd love to see that puppy finished!

I'm more of an admirer when it comes to the challenges on here, and this one goes with my CAD background but since I'm busy as I've ever been until at least January I cannot join in. But I do REALLY look forward to seeing the projects on this challenge.

Very interesting topic...

would I be allowed to do a car engine?

I'm thinking of doing something like this if so

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1336/enginecutawaygp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks.

[RobertoOrtiz]

Of course!

I wish you luck
-R


would I be allowed to do a car engine?

I'm thinking of doing something like this if so

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1336/enginecutawaygp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Thanks.

[Senseicapi]

This challenge looks awesome, I have been looking for some reference, but I only get some bad images or really small blueprints. If anyone knows were I can get some good blueprints or images I can use, that will be awesome.

I don't know what I will work on yet, so any reference is good, but I was thinking on an armored vehicle or ship, maybe.

[Clanger]

This challenge looks awesome, I have been looking for some reference, but I only get some bad images or really small blueprints. If anyone knows were I can get some good blueprints or images I can use, that will be awesome.

I don't know what I will work on yet, so any reference is good, but I was thinking on an armored vehicle or ship, maybe.


I've found books to be better than the internet at this sort of ref as usually the pictures you find are far too low res.
As to blue prints, model engineering companies sell them for all sorts of things but at a price.
You may have some luck at a museum they often have an archive that can be searched and copies made.

Plastic kits can also be useful, some of them have quite detailed interiors plus a bit of internet research to fill in the gaps.

[Panora]

Hello cgi people,

I am a bit of a newbee in 3D but I love it. And now that i have some time free I am going to get crazy and participate on the challenge. I never was on an challenge and I think this is probably to hard for me but I am ready to try.

Greetings from Portugal,
Panoramix

[RobertoOrtiz]

Hello cgi people,

I am a bit of a newbee in 3D but I love it. And now that i have some time free I am going to get crazy and participate on the challenge. I never was on an challenge and I think this is probably to hard for me but I am ready to try.

Greetings from Portugal,
Panoramix

Well, Welcome to the fold!

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