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stenarts
06-09-2003, 08:47 PM
Fellah Joebount and me (Neox) are also participating this challenge under the guidance of Sten :)

I can't let this be my first Challenge without a team, so this won't be a Challenge without a team for me :D

Ok these are our Characters out of the game based on the not yet existing Comic Ria - Legend of Light

Fellah will do Torcas:

ice ring thrower joins our heroes in the beginning of the second volume. He is also one of the wearers of a seal fragment and with his appearance we know that the fragments of the seals try to find each other. Torcas is built respectably, if not from terrifying shape. Opposite to that he has a peaceful nature. He has the gift of being able to throw a ring of water like a boomerang. Before reaching their goal the rings freeze to ice and become a very powerful weapon. Torcas can talk to the water, no matter if it is pouring down as a warm summer rain or if it is coming out of the rocks as a waterfall.

Joebount will do the Purc Morc the Ruler of the skinny pumpkins:

The Morcs

Originally the Clan of the Morcs had specialized in hunting forest butterflies for the Porians, a clan from which"Porix" the plant shifter came. As Noctus and the Shaden changed Tenebra the Morcs changed as well. Many Morcs had to die. But their will to free Tenebra gave them the strength to fight the Shaden so that their surviving fellowmen could escape. Similar to the Light Clan the Morcs rise and grow up from the ground of Tenebra. A pumpkin like plant covers the baby morcs for a few weeks then they ar
e ready to leave and explore the world around them. The Porians breed the Morcs which in return gather forest butterflies for them.

The Morcs had established two classes, the thin ones (Morcps) and the thicker ones (Morcws), the Morcps fight while flying through the air, the Morcws fight from the ground and from positions under ground. They are armed with pollen balls of the Brosal plant.They produce little explosions spreading poisonous dust which can kill enemies within a few hours. The Shaden however are partly immune but they can suffer from substantial damage.

Purc Morc, the leader of the Morcps, admires the young hunter Loan, his instinct to pursue prey and his skills. From time to time he is instructed by Loan. But there is no real friendship between the two, only mutual respect and certain commitment to being a huntsman.


and I'm going to do Ria:

fragile light... is the only being that has the power to bring together the fragments of the seal. She slips from a cocoon, that rested under the strong roots of the Tueri plant until Loan discovered it. Since she was woken up too early, the knowledge she needed to fulfill her task couldn’t ripe completely. It is now on the keeper of the seal, Uri, to prepare her for her mission. Through the affection of Loan, the usually secretively RIA becomes a strong personality, that takes every danger to fulfill her task. As a consequence to her permanent conflicts with the powers of the darkness, a seed grows inside her that is more powerful than any of her antecessors. But only when this seed is planted in the middle of the tower of lights, Noctus will be destroyed forever.

Here we go :D

Neox
06-09-2003, 08:55 PM
Ok here are my first steps on Ria:

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria-sketch.jpg

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_head.jpg

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_hair.jpg

and a small video

Avi File DivX (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_kopp_02_big.avi)

Asgar
06-09-2003, 08:58 PM
Hei all this talented guys together!!!!!!!Great!!:drool: :drool: :drool:Good luck!!Waiting for the first pic!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Aearon
06-09-2003, 09:03 PM
harr !! :D i certainly didn't expected this to happen - really looking forward to seeing more (uh and and hopefully see how it is related to this challenge topic ;))

Virtuoso
06-09-2003, 09:05 PM
Hello Fellah Joebount and Neox. This should be a wonderful project.I enjoy all of your creations from the past very much.

The storyline is quite in-depth,interesting as well.Characters sound as if they will be not only fun to look at but also to play with.

Neox your little lady Ria looks to be off to a fine start. She looks compassionate,pretty,gentle,cute,but I am sure very fierce when it come's to battles.:thumbsup:

I expect three times the work within this thread (Being three of you).:p

Believe it or not I have been working un-officially on my own challenge creations,but will only decide in another couple days if I will enter officially myself,I want to make sure I can finish( Texturing,rigging,set pieces) all I have planned before diving in officially,we shall see.:)

Well I am happy to see you are all in.............It will be fun for me as everyone else.Good luck you three,and have fun.:thumbsup: :beer:

iC4
06-09-2003, 09:39 PM
wow thats a nice team :beer:

and your start neox looks pretty nice and cute

good luck for the challenge!

antnik
06-09-2003, 09:50 PM
Very good start...i like it...go on...:bounce: :bounce:

chucyĐ
06-09-2003, 10:07 PM
come on guys give me a change...

itīs looking too impressive.
it sounds too good.
itīll be worked out too perfect.

but i wish u good luck!

at the moment sheīs looking a bit like chucky (die killerpupe, donīt know the english name) perhaps caused by the lighting

Dave Black
06-09-2003, 10:37 PM
Great. Just great. I might as well withdraw now.

Best of luck to you guys. I hate you all.

Wait...no....

Hehe.

:beer:

I'm sure your entry will be an inspiration to us all.

-3DZ

:D

bodini
06-09-2003, 11:03 PM
dream team & awesome start...:thumbsup:

AJ
06-09-2003, 11:15 PM
Ack! :eek:

Too... many... talented... @#%!!'s :scream:

That is just not fair! I demand that all of you go and sit in the corner (no talking) and think about what you've done (to the rest of us)...

At least when the rest of us are (lying broken in a ditch, crying) at the end of this challenge, we can all marvel at your entry :D

Joebount
06-09-2003, 11:37 PM
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him
Visit Stenarts (http://www.stenarts.com)
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him
Sten is a god, I don't deserve to work with him

uh ... I dunno if I'll post something today ... uh uh uh
:p

Neox
06-09-2003, 11:39 PM
:surprised
bastard!!!
don't do that to me!
:cry:

Joebount
06-09-2003, 11:51 PM
Ok Neox, stop crying, here is your pic ! but just one for today ! ;)
http://joebount.free.fr/cm_01.jpg
Subject to change a lot ! :) C&c are welcome !

FEAR, Stenart's crew is commmmmming !

Neox
06-09-2003, 11:54 PM
*sniff
thank you, really cool start, I want to see all this finished :9

now waiting for Fellah :D

but for today... i'm able to sleep well

good night

:beer:

Nicodemia
06-10-2003, 12:11 AM
Well we might aswell all just give up now! Whats the point in continuing! You're all too good!!!!!!:cry: :cry: :cry:
Nice one guys. Love the concept and the first pics. INCREDIBLE! There's nothing else to say.:thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
06-10-2003, 12:35 AM
:bounce: BASTARDS....(i am joking of course)....bastards i say...
why all together....feck!....from first page u are doing great work......:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

i don't say good luck.everybody in this forum will lough with me...

:thumbsup:

visualboo
06-10-2003, 12:57 AM
Is that first sketch you posted the same girl in this?

DimitrisLiatsos
06-10-2003, 01:01 AM
:bounce:

genesis max
06-10-2003, 01:46 AM
You are all disqualified
This is not fair, three extra talented guy on same work. :annoyed:
Will moderators do something about this, somebody help:cry:

Just joking guys, i really look forward to your work.
But i am really curious what the rules say about team work on challenges.
I'll be back just to check.
Cheers, :beer:

fellah
06-10-2003, 02:02 AM
dimi, hahah! great one :D

AJ_23, crazy man :D

and virtuoso.. hahahah!!! :D if only AptPupil could come here, then we could all have a good taste at the chickens :D I remember you 2 in the LOTR challenge, only empty threats, empty threats.. :rolleyes:

Joebount
really nice start, the head looks almost perfect. though I havent seen the concept, would be nice to see so we can compare :wip:

boo
I'm pretty sure thats the one, not 100. and neox is sleeping right now, you'll get your answer tomorrow I guess.

thank you all for the encouragement and fun reading :)

swag
06-10-2003, 02:21 AM
great :buttrock: will be fun to watch :)

Ria - legende de lumiére
http://www.legend-of-light.com/

Kozlow
06-10-2003, 02:32 AM
Hi there,
nice nice i like the idea and the progress so far keep on and on oo one more thing, after the chalange is finisched we can play some socer your tem vs rest of the post hahahah j/k :beer: :wavey:
Kamil:thumbsup:

visualboo
06-10-2003, 03:01 AM
Anders my main man. That's cool, I was just curious.

fellah
06-10-2003, 03:27 AM
boo
cool mate :)

Jelwa
:D :wip:

thanks swag

Virtuoso
06-10-2003, 05:12 AM
Fellah: I had to give you a chance to win you know. I am sure that was Apt pupil's reason too.;) :p

Also your Lil' Bastard was toooo cute and well done to stomp with one of my Bastard stompers.:)

I look forward to your up-dates,should be fun and great to view.:thumbsup: :beer:

cgbinho
06-10-2003, 07:35 AM
that's the kinda of characters i like more!! looking forward to see more from you guys...:bounce:

dominicqwek
06-10-2003, 09:16 AM
dimi- lol. that was hilarious. Its too late, they've started :p

This is so gonna rock :beer:

akocan
06-10-2003, 09:35 AM
hi everyone.
I've been seeing in the past challenges that these 3 made quite good things by themselves.
Since they're together in this one, we might as well invite pixar to this competititon ;) :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Neox
06-10-2003, 09:49 AM
@all: LOL :love: we are here to have fun, not to beat you all ;)

@visualboo: yeah its her, i just posted this sketch to push sten, to give me a better one :D

btw. thank you all, great to see you enjoying us :)

Joebount
06-10-2003, 10:38 AM
here is the sketch (from Sten) :
http://joebount.free.fr/pumsketch.gif

DimitrisLiatsos
06-10-2003, 01:41 PM
:drool: Joebount He ..IS SO CUTE!!!....i hate u ...hate u...(j/k:bounce: )

Neox
06-10-2003, 01:43 PM
Stens Creations :D

Joebount
06-10-2003, 02:23 PM
oooooops, I didn't mention it, thanks Steffen !!! Yeah, those sketches come from Sten ! check stenarts ... uh uh uh
Sorry Sten, I didn't want to take credits for that !
:)

Other sketches from Sten :

http://joebount.free.fr/pumpkingun.jpg
http://joebount.free.fr/gun.jpg

mv
06-10-2003, 02:25 PM
Great stuff guys! that's gonna rock for sure:buttrock:..and it already does.

:beer:

stenarts
06-10-2003, 02:35 PM
@joebount: No problem its a teamwork and these sketches will be nothing without your guys work in 3d.

STEN ;-)

Hexodam
06-10-2003, 03:20 PM
wow, brilliant sketches:bounce:

jocko
06-10-2003, 03:34 PM
Phenominal!! :beer:

Joebount
06-10-2003, 11:22 PM
Update time ! :)
http://joebount.free.fr/cm_06.jpg

DimitrisLiatsos
06-11-2003, 12:06 AM
:bounce: excellent tranfer of concept to 3d i think...and so sweet render...:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Keep them coming ...i can handle it!!!:bounce:

lildragon
06-11-2003, 12:08 AM
Damn you're fast :surprised *grabs popcorn to enjoy the show* http://216.40.249.192/s/cwm/3dlil/lurk.gif

-lild

Neox
06-11-2003, 12:20 AM
@joe, sweeeeeeeeeeeet :D

and i'm still waiting for sten's sketches... ;)

visualboo
06-11-2003, 04:31 AM
Captain bount... nice work so far bud. You need to move your butt over here man.

cgbinho
06-11-2003, 05:32 AM
I love it... this pumpking guy looks so mean :love:

Apt Pupil
06-11-2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by fellah
virtuoso.. hahahah!!! :D if only AptPupil could come here, then we could all have a good taste at the chickens :D I remember you 2 in the LOTR challenge, only empty threats, empty threats.. :rolleyes:


I heard that!!

Dream team my foot, you guys are going down!!!!!!

fellah
06-11-2003, 01:06 PM
great joe!! and very fast indeed. my only advice would be to make the 'cloth-ending' parts more sharp. and formed a bit more like the concept. could be done in the textures. I know it can be a pain to get that shape in the model. nevermind, very nice!

Apt Pupil,
empty threats again.. huh? :rolleyes: and virtuoso.. I havent seen him either.. empty threats I say.. :applause:

OZ
06-11-2003, 01:11 PM
HAI HAI guys!....this team is a winner!:thumbsup: :applause: :buttrock: :drool:

Neox
06-11-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Apt Pupil
you guys are going down!!!!!!

Uh Uh Uh he is challenging us?!

You can mess with the best but you'll die like the rest :twisted:

Hexodam
06-11-2003, 02:02 PM
this is like not fair

I demand you all model with your left hand so this will be fair:wip: :p

Gamoron
06-11-2003, 02:12 PM
This challenge seems to be heralding in a new team dimension to the creation. This is a great start and I think you guys Rock. I should try this in the future.
:beer:

Aearon
06-11-2003, 03:07 PM
Hehe great execution so far guys, there's no way this ain't gonna be awesome when it's finished :thumbsup:

not all threads will be empty though :D

dobermunk
06-11-2003, 04:06 PM
:surprised

boh eh!

Sten - stop taking them pills!
All of you... stop!

Apt Pupil
06-11-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Neox
Uh Uh Uh he is challenging us?!

You can mess with the best but you'll die like the rest :twisted:


Them figthing words dude!! Lol, this will be fun, it's not everyday I get to see 4 grown men cry:p

Heheh, otherwise, it's looking great so far guys but I would have to say that it looks a bit simplistic at the moment. But then, who know's what devious plans you have for the textures and/or sceneries.

My only comment thus far is that perhaps the pumpkin man is a bit to skinny and tall. In the sketches, I find he looks thicker and shorter, and more like a midgit, hence, he looks cute. However, this is a little bit lost when you make him tall & thin. Otherwise, it's looking great. Keep it up Joebount.

:beer:

stenarts
06-11-2003, 04:44 PM
Apt Pupil : " My only comment thus far is that perhaps the pumpkin man is a bit to skinny and tall. In the sketches, I find he looks thicker and shorter, and more like a midgit, hence, he looks cute. However, this is a little bit lost when you make him tall & thin. Otherwise, it's looking great. Keep it up Joebount. "


Hey Abt Pupil,
I really think your comments are very helfpul, will discuss that with Joebount maybe we can get a bit closer to the original design.

thanks a lot,

STEN ;-)

KingMob
06-11-2003, 05:55 PM
pay attention people...these are GODS AMONG MEN!

:beer:

But anyways, this is so great, can't wait to see what you guys cook up, always look forward to seeing your work seperatly...but together? oh man.

:buttrock:

Refugee
06-11-2003, 07:58 PM
I have found my Mecca. You guys are what I want to be when I grow up. Can I have a poster of you guys that I can put on my wall?

Virtuoso
06-11-2003, 08:31 PM
Oh yes I want a poster too,in fact order me up three of them,one for me one for my Bro,and one for my good ol' pal Apt Pupil,...............................................................................................................................................................It's always good to have an extra target[s] set up on the dart board..... ;) :p :p





@ FELLAH : Looks like Apt Pupil and I have been called out. I feel just like an ol' gun fighter being called out by the young kid out to get his name........

I quess you leave me no choice,you have pushed me over the ledge,it's "GO" time.I can't let you have all the fun you know.

I have been working from the first hour the challenge was announced,deep,deep down in the lab below the sandy Beach with my sidekick (IGOR),I mean my Brother the other half of the Virtuoso Bros.

I have a rather ambitious plan,I wanted to see first if I could finish this ambitious plan before entering.Well it will be close,but now I have no choice,I got to go take you out to the ol' wood shed and teach you some manners young wipper snapper.

Look for a lil' something later today............Oh and maybe my Bro and I have a lil' 'Collaboration in mind as well................Should be lot's of fun.....



:p :p :beer:

Joebount
06-11-2003, 09:05 PM
@ Virtuoso and Apt Pupil : LOL, just LOL :applause:

Thanks Apt, I'll tweak Pum within 1 or 2 hours !
Oh yeah, Thanks everybody else for your nice comments and suggestions ! :wavey:

--> For the poster, just send me 60$ and I'll see what I can do fo you ! :bounce: :p

fellah
06-11-2003, 09:11 PM
wohohohahahahaha!! :D :D :D I think I'll burst in laughter before this month is passé. virtuoso virtuoso virtuoso, and virtuosos brother.. :D and apt apt apt.. I just.. I just laugh at you 3 old farts trying to scare your masters :D :D

oh btw, virtuoso. please send me some pics of your lab if you can, I'm really interested in how a lab under malibu beach looks like :cool:

thank you all for the very kind support! :thumbsup:

Virtuoso
06-11-2003, 09:25 PM
You could'nt handle the lab "KID".:p

Now get to the post office "SON" My dart board needs new targets.:p

Hey do you hear that,do you hear that...........? It's a new thread coming,and it's "a" coming hard and this way.

The V Bros coming and with a speacial Quest star,could it be......?

First some waves,then back to the ol' lab for some CG fun.See you soon "YOUNG ONE".;) :p

fellah
06-11-2003, 09:49 PM
talk talk talk, it seems nothing ever gets done virtuoso, huh? :rolleyes: :D
maybe this is how it is when you're getting old, things just take more time than they used to.. :shrug:

keep them empty threats pouring in, I will go take a break and laugh :D

Joebount
06-11-2003, 10:09 PM
Round 747 , FIGHT !
:applause:

Joebount
06-11-2003, 11:13 PM
EUPEUDEUTEU !!!!
uh, I guess it's French, here is the English version :

UPDATE !!!!

http://joebount.free.fr/cm_matth_05.jpg

Neox
06-11-2003, 11:36 PM
ok just a small update
only 2.5 hours so no real changes, but enough for today :p
still a lot to change and fix, buts a start i guess :D

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria02.jpg

and a small turnaround video

avi-file (divX) (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_01_big.avi)

Apt Pupil
06-11-2003, 11:42 PM
yah, that's looking great!! however, now the small bag, I think, is making him look big. Perhaps if you make the bag 'alot' bigger, I believe you should be just about done:)

Also, Perhaps it's not necessarry, but I was just brousing a final fantasy 9 artbook (my entry will be similar;) ), and I noticed that they make their hands very large to make the characters look small, perhaps pumpkin's man's hands could be larger.

Keep it up dude :wip: :wip:


As for Fellah and Virtuoso --> There's nothing like a little pre-battle comments to get in the mood:p Although, I am also curious to know what Virtuoso basement looks like now:hmm:

DimitrisLiatsos
06-12-2003, 12:54 AM
:bounce: Damn Neox !!! she looks great !!!....u guys have such great style!!!:beer:

Joebount
06-12-2003, 10:10 AM
Update timeeeee !

first, the pic

http://joebount.free.fr/cm_matth_06.jpg

And just because you have been very quiet and nice, a turnaround (http://joebount.free.fr/pom_turn_01.avi)

BTW, it's my birthday today and I'm currently looking for a job, so don't hesitate guys ! :wavey:

Neox
06-12-2003, 10:17 AM
Happy Birthday! :beer:
he's getting really cool, i like how close he is to the concept :)

stenarts
06-12-2003, 10:42 AM
me too...its really closer to the concept now....great work Joe ;-)

Uh, you told me how old....men the grey hairs starting to appear...there will be an invasion of grey aliens now....better you have a army of pumpkins on your head to fight against the grey front.

But you possible looking great with grey hear...think on Sean Connery....great grey actor and his grey hair makes him more interesting for womans...

I have no chance my wife rip them off when I sleep....will never have the same appeal like Connery....what a pity.

STEN :surprised

Have fun today my friend....;)

Gremlin
06-12-2003, 11:07 AM
dude.... is this even fair? :surprised
im competing against FOUR people? (one of them being the mighty Fellah?)

...thats just not right :annoyed:

seriously, thats just wrong :argh:

fellah
06-12-2003, 11:16 AM
hey joe, happy birthday man! I hope you will take a break today and enjoy ;)
maybe, I dunno. but you could add a beige tone(or another) to the front part(you know, the 'part' :) ) of his dace, could be cool. coold be ugly. but you could try.
maybe also make his head a little less wide, and then you could squash and stretch it later on, in his expressions instead.

neoxinski, you know my crits ;)

Gremlin, :D and now you have virtuoso and co to ;) but I'm sure it will push us all to our limits, we're not here to win. just to have fun and get some extra inspiration to finish all this :)

janhath
06-12-2003, 12:32 PM
I visited the site,very nice,versatile look to all the work.I think you will have an exciting thread.Looks promising.
Will there be more than the character work if possible.I hope so if time permits.I must check out this other thread Fellah mentioned too.So far you have a very nice beginning.:applause: :)

fellah
06-12-2003, 02:31 PM
hey joe, I made a lil paintover for christmas present ;)
no really, but I thoguht I would try to point out a few things I found while looking at your image alongside the concept.. heres the image,
tweaky image (http://www.fellah.net/temp/cm_matth_06.gif) (animated gif)
main things I found.. I think he needs to be shorter, with shorter comes shorter arms etc.. and a bit more "edgy" legs, like the concept. also the head shape can be made more "simple".
and also, I think his upper-arms shall be thinner than his lower-arms. and a little bit of that wonderful "70's clothing" at the end of the arms, like at the end of the cloths. the pics explains most of the things..
all just ideas, use whatever you want, or nothing :) I'm sure sten can tell you what he likes it to be better than me ;)


janhath,
Will there be more than the character work if possible
I talked to neox about it, could be cool to do some kinda composition in the end with all the chars. maybe some basic env etc.. we'll see :)

thanks

swag
06-12-2003, 04:00 PM
first joe happy birthday have a nice day :) very nice updates
fellah your paint over is very nice the shape fits better but the color in the face looks strange

Joebount
06-12-2003, 04:41 PM
Thanks guys ! :beer:

I'll post Pom's update a bit later, tweaking some things for the moment. Here is DA WEAPON !!!

http://joebount.free.fr/weapon_matth_02.jpg

Ech0
06-12-2003, 05:28 PM
feallh waiting on you lets see what ya got !!!! you know me have to learn all i can from the great one so get posting

Joebount
06-12-2003, 06:24 PM
pom pom pom, he's back, pom pom pom
http://joebount.free.fr/cm_matth_08.jpg

dominicqwek
06-12-2003, 07:11 PM
gawd. I really love those designs... :drool: freaking kick ass. sigh...

visualboo
06-12-2003, 08:54 PM
JOOOOOOOEEE.... happy birthday you old fart ;)

Looking awesome man. I love the ideas fellah had too.

schmu_20mol
06-12-2003, 09:54 PM
happy B-Day Joe:arteest: :beer: :arteest:

Apt Pupil
06-12-2003, 11:05 PM
Needs a 'much' bigger bag, otherwise, it just gets better and better.

Happy birthday dude:beer: :bounce: :bounce:

Kozlow
06-12-2003, 11:16 PM
Hi there Joebount and the rest of the dreamteam:)
I like the Pumkin it has his own clear personality and style:). But in my opinion hands looks like thet were swelled (i dont know if that is a good english word) but thats me.
Happy Birthday cuz iv heared that someone is celebrating.
Take care
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Kamil

Virtuoso
06-12-2003, 11:36 PM
Happy B day Joe.......................:beer:

Your thread is and will continue to be very entertaining guys.Fun and more fun.:thumbsup: :beer:

azazel
06-13-2003, 01:40 PM
Gimme phone number of Ria :love: :love: :love:

keep it up guys :thumbsup:

BinarySoup
06-13-2003, 02:23 PM
great work on the models sofar, but in my humble opinion the excellent pumpkin concept-sketch still reigns supreme in this thread, great characterization coupled with dynamic poses, please post more of sten's sketch stuff, they're awesome!

btw, are these characters part of a "bigger" story?

Neox
06-13-2003, 02:28 PM
yes we will add the story and some concepts later :)

Joebount
06-13-2003, 02:45 PM
I don't think we should do 3D anymore Neox, they just want Sten's concept ! I guess we will stop the 3d part and let Sten and Marcus have fun in the 2d part.;)

Neox
06-13-2003, 02:58 PM
ehehe

BinarySoup
06-13-2003, 03:21 PM
hehe, no offence, your models are GREAT, I was just taken with the imaginative concept art :D

fellah
06-13-2003, 03:51 PM
Ech0
I will, in a few days, or more.. I have other things i have to take care of before I can start. but once I start, virtuoso and his team will cry for mercy :rolleyes: ;)

joe, I agree with apt 'the chicken' pupil, maybe you could make it like a big "backpack". you know, those "trendy" ones that you hang sideways over your shouders.. and it could also be moved up to "rest" against the back.. like in reality.. well, like you have done now basically, but bigger bigger bigger, and move it up some.. :)

Dr.Jones
06-13-2003, 04:09 PM
Very cool cartoon design, I think this kinda of concept fit with game icon subject a lot

Joebount
06-13-2003, 04:55 PM
I'm baaaaack ! :p

an even bigger bag ? I'll give him somebody to carry his ammo, it will be easier ! :P ;)

The concept art is on page 3 of this same thread, here is the beggining in 3D :

http://joebount.free.fr/tower_matth_01.jpg

visualboo
06-13-2003, 06:52 PM
Nice work Joe... looks bad ass so far.

more!


This challenge looks like so much fun. I wish I had more time to join.

cgbinho
06-13-2003, 07:40 PM
like i said before.... this style is so amazing... i.... i... i love.
i wanna play that game :annoyed:

BTW, this gun will shoot tomatoes?? :D
joebount, your model so far is my favorite.. can't wait until this challenge is over and i get a wallpaper from those characters :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :

Virtuoso
06-13-2003, 09:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fellah
[b]Ech0
I will, in a few days, or more.. I have other things i have to take care of before I can start. but once I start, virtuoso and his team will cry for mercy :rolleyes: ;)





@FELLAH:

:scream: :scream: ........Screaming with laughter.Bring it on Fellah...........I cannot wait to see your wild and crazy creation,sooo cool I know it will be.Cannot wait.

But for that comment I will now create some extra "Bastard Stompers" just for you.Really I will.:p



Joe Bount: Cool bag,love the design,and gun mount,cool stuff.


:beer:

eirenicon
06-13-2003, 10:07 PM
That Pumpkin-mobile looks a little like a hot air balloon, with the bag (ballast) hanging off the side like that. The style kicks ass, though, I have to say that it's pretty intimidating having such an awesome matchup. Great stuff guys!

Joebount
06-13-2003, 10:29 PM
Birdie incomming, birdie incommingggggggg !!! Watch out !
and also : new texture works, a rig and much much things !

Thanks guys for the comments ! :)

@Virtuoso : you will screaaaaaaaam !!! mouauauauauahahahha !

hum... where are my pills .... Steeeeeeeen !!! My pills !!!

Aearon
06-13-2003, 10:37 PM
[this reply was generated automatically]

perfect models all over the place... uaaaahhh :scream:

[end of automatic sten thread reply]

from now on all my replies to this thread will be auto generated, i don't think there will be anything else to say...and fellah hasn't even posted yet.. duh. couldn't agree more to my man virtuoso.. can't wait to see your model:cool:

Ech0
06-14-2003, 01:52 AM
looking good guys Joebount how did you light that scene i really like it

i was wondering because it has a warm and fuzzy look to it

Troub
06-14-2003, 10:26 AM
wooot!
this is a brilliant translation into 3d from brilliant concepts.
and fun to follow this very entertaining thread

echo: lighting is great indeed, but i think the fuzzy look is specular bloom achieved by a blurred layer multiplied in photoshop...could be wrong :wavey:

keep up...very inspiring you all

troub

Neox
06-14-2003, 01:56 PM
you're right with the bloom to achieve that soft look :)


Bzw: Wo kommen denn die ganzen deutschen auf einmal her? :beer:

Aearon
06-14-2003, 01:57 PM
Waren immer da Neox ;)

dobermunk
06-14-2003, 02:13 PM
jar nicht!

Neox
06-14-2003, 02:15 PM
Update :D
another small one.. i'm going to ad her arm now :)

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria03.jpg

and as every time, a turnaround

Avi-File / DivX (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_02_big.avi)

Kozlow
06-14-2003, 02:22 PM
Hi there @Neox,
looking good:thumbsup:
She dosnt have arms but already a panties :) thats not fair whhaaaaaa.
Take care
Kamil:beer: :thumbsup:

Neox
06-14-2003, 02:32 PM
panties? where? you don't have any phantasy do you? think about it... there are no panties :D

Kozlow
06-14-2003, 02:38 PM
Sorry Neox my mistake, i took this plaine (wich now i know is not a pat of panties) as you know what ;) me stupid and blind got to go to doctor to cure my phantasy. To phantasy doctor:)
Take care
Kamil

swag
06-14-2003, 04:23 PM
Neox very cute :thumbsup:

Joebount
06-14-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by swag
Neox very cute :thumbsup:
Naaaah, believe me, Neox is not that cute !

visualboo
06-14-2003, 04:47 PM
HAHA

stenarts
06-14-2003, 04:48 PM
Shit! Iīm already married.....;-)

Neox
06-14-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Joebount
Naaaah, believe me, Neox is not that cute !

HEY! :annoyed:

Neox
06-14-2003, 05:58 PM
http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria04.jpg

and another turnaround (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_03_big.avi)

visualboo
06-14-2003, 06:01 PM
Maybe if you lost the face paint and got rid of the evil story telling lighting :shrug: ;)

:beer:

Neox
06-14-2003, 06:29 PM
ehr... what? :curious:

i guess my english is not the best :p

stenarts
06-14-2003, 06:32 PM
Oki, on page 1 we have now the description of the character Joebount is working on.

;-)

MikaelPersson
06-14-2003, 06:47 PM
This start is wonderful. When I had a look at that comic some time ago it did really appeal to me. And now seeing it take shape here is even better.
You are doing a fine job Neox, not much more to say really. Nothing is out of place, every little poly occupies it's right spot.
I want more :).

cheers.

MelC
06-14-2003, 07:47 PM
Looking good,but where is all work.More must be here.I like look so far,but need more,any scene is planned?:)

fellah
06-14-2003, 08:38 PM
hey Mikael is alive again! :) what's up with you, still at Warthog in England? hope you have a good time wherever you are and whatever you're doing :)


wa, first update for me. I was modeling away fast and thought I would stop and show some progress before I'm done :)
arms, hands, legs, feets are WIP. the torso and head part are what I myself consider to be pretty done model wise. so if you can crit, please do.
here's the concept:
http://www.fellah.net/temp/CGI/TorcasConcept.Sten.jpg

here's the WIP model: (click image for larger pic)
http://www.fellah.net/temp/CGI/Torcas.WIP1.Small.jpg (http://www.fellah.net/temp/CGI/Torcas.WIP1.jpg)
also, maybe.. the whole headpart is placed a bit to high, might move all that down a little..

Neox
06-14-2003, 08:42 PM
HOLY SHIT!
man i have to work mor and stop taking breaks to play...

ok Ria will be finished tomorrow (can't do anything today) *speedup*

Virtuoso
06-14-2003, 08:44 PM
Hehe..........cyclops,nice look,style.A little different type work from you.But I like that kind of diversity.he looks to be fun,but all your work is fun.Very nice WIP fellah,you never dissapoint.Well done.Keep :wip:

And get you arse over here.:beer:



Edit: by the way,love the extra large hands and feet/boots look,totally my thing,you talented bastard you.;)

:beer:

Aearon
06-14-2003, 08:58 PM
aarrr.. you really nailed the style of the conept, perfect execution once again.. looking perfect all the way around. Can't wait to see him with the remaining details and his coat :thumbsup:

dominicqwek
06-14-2003, 10:19 PM
Fellah-

Sweeeeeeeettt!!! Here's my 2 cent's worth, the 2 horn things look a bit too hard and sharp to me. the concept sketch didnt really portray that kinda look imho. As for the face, i must say u did a darn good job, i would thicken the lower lip and pull back the upper lip a bit. As for the chest, its pretty tricky..it looks soft like cloth and hard at the same time. The rest of the body looks very good to me :thumbsup: Feet looks hard, would be good to have some seams there to depict a softer more cloth like feel.

Love the design:D

Kozlow
06-14-2003, 11:09 PM
Opa,
and again something cool from Fellah, great concept turned out to be a great 3d model. Thats certainly something iconic, oryginal and well done already. About crit, hmmmmm if i could out poit out something it would be hmmmmm forearm maybe. For me its a bit to wide, i mean i like the size cuz it works well with the char. style but....no iv changed my mind its ok im jus thinkink loud. :beer: :thumbsup:
Keep going and ill keep waiting for more up dates.
Take care
Kamil:wavey:

mv
06-15-2003, 12:41 AM
waah too fun fellah. That's a wonderful cyclops. But hey, don't forget those little things hanging on the sides of the head, they're really cool :)

Grugi
06-15-2003, 04:39 AM
Somebody have to stop them :D

Really good work from all of you :love:

Apt Pupil
06-15-2003, 04:59 AM
Grugi --> I wouldn't worry about this little team of bastards:p

Fellah --> Well, well, it's unfortuanate, but I can't find anything wrong with your model:annoyed: But, I'll certainly be watching for mistakes and laugh when you commit them heheh.

Very nice work dude.

swag
06-15-2003, 05:53 AM
great character concept Sten and Fellah noone can do a better job great transfer

LEEBLEEB
06-15-2003, 07:34 AM
Why isn't there anything wrong with your characters, if only you lot had a weak spot.:thumbsup:

lildragon
06-15-2003, 09:38 AM
Booo, hissss, go home get outta here all of ya! This team just sucks! I give you all the Gollum middle finger :p heh I kid I kid, you guys are really doing a number on concepts and 3D conversions in here, can't wait to see what the end looks like.

-lild

Colin de bink
06-15-2003, 01:42 PM
wow you guys are real good
It is realy depressing, it makes me see that I totaly suck at modeling ... oh I'm over it again ... did you see that? I whas realy depressed there for a second ... its all over now though. happy as a fish in the water.

good luck guys I can't wait to see how it all turns out

Kid-Mesh
06-15-2003, 02:30 PM
Some serious creativity going on here....wow.

Excellent job fellas!

Looking forward to your final piece.


AND MOP THE FLOOR WITH THE COMPETITION! LOL

fellah
06-15-2003, 03:27 PM
thank you all!

virtuoso,
>>>And get you arse over here.
pay pay pay ;)

dom,
thats a very appreciated comment! I will try to fix those things until next time :wip:

m@.
hey, I almost forgot those little headThings actually :) I didnt think about them more, they will be there for sure. I think they are really cool as well.
btw, I just saw your lotr challenge entry in finished form, very very nice! your one talanted man. hope you get some time/inspiration and join in on this challenge :wip:

Apt Pupil
bla bla, I dont listen to you. I'm sure you can spot alot of errors but you just keep them for yourself, to better your chances once you join(the last day :D ) ;)
heheh, no really. I'm very glad you like it, means alot coming from you.

now, waiting for neox.. I really really wonder if he can finish Ria today as he promised.. I'm not so sure.. :D :wip:

thanks

ChrRambow
06-15-2003, 05:40 PM
:surprised:
I hope your mouses will broken before the challenge ends, so that we got a chance to win ;)

Just kiddin ... Great concept sketches stanarts :thumbsup:

and very clean and well modeled models!

Keep up the great work guys :beer:

cheers,
Christian

stenarts
06-15-2003, 07:50 PM
@KoRn_ART: Thanks a lot, itīs hard work...always this blank sheet of paper smiling at me and it seems to tell me: " You will not get any idea...you will not get any idea...ha ha ha ha ha !"

I hate blank papers and so its wonderful that this thread did not turned out to a blank thread. So many great comments and helpful critic is more motivation then I ever expected. :love:

So here is a paint over I did on the 3D model of Joebount to give my suggestion of how that character could look like. Its no texture yet, just added some color on Photoshop.

http://www.legend-of-light.com/free_for_forum/color_pumpkin_creature.jpg

Neox
06-15-2003, 08:44 PM
I really really wonder if he can finish Ria today as he promised.. I'm not so sure...

3 hours left till the end of this day... enough time to model and colorize her weapon ;)

ok UPDATE :D

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria05.jpg

Neox
06-15-2003, 08:49 PM
for design issues go to sten and tell him :p
I'm just the modeller ;)
but i guess you may like the next character more, he's definately different :D

dominicqwek
06-15-2003, 08:50 PM
sten- i totally love what u did to the head. I really like the colours u gave, esp near the eyes. :beer:

Neox- wonderful attention to subtle details. Love the knees and clavicles. Hmm cant seem to find anything wrong..the upper part of her mask could afford a more "U" shape. It looks too straight across the forehead. thats just a personal preference. :D

Oh yeah. hair line looks a bit too high up..making her forehead look long. 2 cent's worth. ;)

KingMob
06-15-2003, 08:55 PM
guys are outdoing even what I expected to see when this thread started...really awesome stuff!

I wan't totally sold on the girl at gfirst, but now...wow! great great work.

MY favorite part is they all seem to be really fitting together, really can't wait to see whats next.



:beer:

Joebount
06-15-2003, 08:55 PM
Great paintover Sten, I'll deal with the textures today or tommorow :thumbsup:

I love the lightning Neox, it is soooooooo amazingly excellent ! ;) :p She's very sexy ! Hurry up, I wanna se updates ! ;)

Thanks for your nice comments guys ! :beer:

Aearon
06-15-2003, 08:59 PM
Wow Neox! She is simply a thing of beauty. Beautiful, powerful, dangerous. Just about everything is in the right place.

only two crits: the shoes make her look a lot less graceful imo, not very shapely.. i guess that's the way they have to be. and i can make out some edgy polys on the clothing, you may have to increase the sub-d level of the coat especially

I especially love the hands.. could you post (or pm me) a close up & wire maybe? after your 3 hours worth of modeling time of course. hope that's not asking too much :cool:

ilasolomon
06-15-2003, 10:42 PM
OOPS! :eek: my eyes are wide open for this, Damn, damn you! I hate you alllll, I hate hate hate! (I'll kill you Anders someday!)
is here the Chamber of GODs? or the Olympia?
:beer:
now Thorsten is my new favorite concept artist! :D :thumbsup: (now I have a favorite Gaul, a Viking & a German! LOL! :D)

Hey, I think cgchallenge need an ANTITRUST RULE badly!!!

Gamoron
06-15-2003, 11:04 PM
Great job so far guys. I'm looking forward to the finished piece. The character designs are cool.:beer: :thumbsup:

Neox
06-15-2003, 11:39 PM
ok this time just a video... don't want to render in bigger Resolution again :P

changed the colors, the hair and her mask :)

Avi File - DivX (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria_06.avi)

dominicqwek
06-15-2003, 11:50 PM
NICE! :thumbsup: Love the staff.

Joebount
06-16-2003, 01:03 AM
Nice work dude ! I just find the hands .... bizare ? they look a bit big too big to me, dunno ... Nevermind, great work !

Here is a test for the textures, following Sten's advice :
http://joebount.free.fr/cm_matth_09.jpg

zzzrByte
06-16-2003, 09:35 AM
Neox - Wow! Great update! She looks great, I don't know if the choice of colors is yours or Sten, but it is also great! Also, I love the transparent dress material behind her feet.
I am bothered by her feet though, they don't seem stable enough, it looks like most of the weight is on the inner part of her sole. Also, the proportions between each foot's height near the ankle, and the foot's length seems off. Like it should be longer (or if you look at the model as a whole, it looks like the ankle should be slimmer).
The only other crit I have is about the hair, which looks too plasticky in my opinion and not detailed enough, but that looks like a design choice on your part.

Keep up the great work!:thumbsup:

Joebount
06-16-2003, 10:29 AM
Pum updated (very slightly, but updated !) see two posts higher please :)

Joebount
06-16-2003, 12:44 PM
Done, da littl' guy is rigged ! :wip:

http://joebount.free.fr/cm_matth_10.jpg

Dr.Jones
06-16-2003, 01:53 PM
yoohoo

Joebount
06-16-2003, 02:04 PM
Thanks Dr. ;)

Here is the turnover :
Click me ! (http://joebount.free.fr/pom_turn_03.avi)

Neox
06-16-2003, 03:02 PM
i like the hair as it is... look on my reference :p

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/sketch.JPG

i guess i'll change the shoes a bit, more curved and more pointed to the front :)

stenarts
06-16-2003, 03:22 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! What a horrible Drawing, your 3D Model are miles better then that worse sketch. Now we know your trouble very well but like as more your great adaption.

STEN :thumbsup:

swag
06-16-2003, 04:22 PM
Neox she looks lovely i hope you show us some closeups :)

Neox
06-16-2003, 04:43 PM
close enough? :)

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Ria/ria06.jpg

visualboo
06-16-2003, 06:54 PM
oo oooo I like that staff. kewl.

Ech0
06-16-2003, 07:05 PM
howd you make the hair ??? and how do can get this bloom effect you spoke of earlier in animation or is it purly just for still renders

Neox
06-16-2003, 07:26 PM
@visualboo: thanks :)

@echo: I wanted to send you a pm but your inbox is full :p
ok here's a tutorial a friend of mine wrote a while ago, on how to create the bloom effect.
http://gamedesign.4players.de:1026/LS/Tub/Others/Tut3/Bloom.htm

the hair are just based on simple loft extrusions and the modelled...

stenarts
06-16-2003, 09:20 PM
Okay here for all who asked for more sketches i have here earlier sketches we do not used.

There are some Sketches of the Bird Creature beside Pur Morc, his kind of navigator helping him to plan all attacks. As well here two other drawings of Morcs on a earthworm and in a kind of pumkin vehicle which probable needs more wheels...;)

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/03.jpg

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/01.jpg

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/02.jpg

working now on a drawing for the scene we want to make with that Characters, will hopefully have it finished by thursday. Sure no question we will post it as well and hopefully you will like it.

STEN ;-)

Neox
06-16-2003, 09:30 PM
no no no! not more weels, maybe smaller :p
funny designs

Joebount
06-16-2003, 09:33 PM
Update, a few things to tweak though :)

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/cm_matth_11.jpg

KingMob
06-16-2003, 09:37 PM
awesome designs..I love the big fat lizard critter...that would be sooo fun to model :D

great work you guys! now keep it comin!
:beer:

Aearon
06-16-2003, 09:57 PM
so everything's coming together :)

you already said that some things need tweaking. i still have one minor crit: the gun doesn't look like it's integrated where it intersects with the pumpkin, it look like it's stuck onto a mesh, not into a pumpkin. i think you should create a hole in the pumpkin at that spot. to match the smooth shading/look of the rest of the piece.

it's nitpicking, but please don't take it as that.. i just wanna help, that's my nature :)

DimitrisLiatsos
06-16-2003, 10:08 PM
:bounce: This is so great work guys...3 days i was away and now i am astonished !!:buttrock:

:beer:

swag
06-16-2003, 10:35 PM
Neox yehhh big enough :eek:
Sten thats great concepts - next time u can paint concepts for me too :)
Joebount fantastic look i agree with fist modeling the groove

Joebount
06-17-2003, 12:34 AM
Just a test, I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed to to it ! :beer:

http://joebount.free.fr/test2.jpg

Ech0
06-17-2003, 05:41 AM
yea sorry about that i cleared it but for some reason it still says its full hmmmm dont know? but thanks for the tutorial

stenarts
06-17-2003, 07:32 AM
Okay, forgotten this vehicle design for the leader of the Morcws which fight from the ground and from positions under ground.

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/04.jpg

Will make it now more like a Harly Davidson, the next step I will show thursday hopefully with three wheels then... :p

This here is just a first step i have to set up a few more interesting designs during the next days...

soon more...

STEN ;)

DimitrisLiatsos
06-17-2003, 09:32 AM
:bounce: Damn...u are very good Joebount ..really nice render the last one!:bounce:

Neox
06-17-2003, 10:26 AM
@sten i'd say, smaller weels :D

Joebount
06-17-2003, 11:41 AM
Thanks Dimitri !

Here is the update, more dynamic I hope :)

http://joebount.free.fr/compo_matth_01.jpg

stenarts
06-17-2003, 01:15 PM
Okay, here the new version...

STEN ;) http://stenarts.com/cgtalk/06.jpg

Aearon
06-17-2003, 01:18 PM
sorry to say this joebount, but i liked the other one better in pretty much every aspect.. the facial expression(the eyes don't look as good now, you don't see the teeth which give him a lot of character), pose(the gun doesn't look like he should be able to rest on it, it should tilt over), it didn't look so confusing, and a lot of details just get lost in the new version :shrug:

i thought the other one was perfect :shrug:, i would just let him lean more towards the gun in that shot, making him look more anxious to shoot something :cool:

*edit* another cool sketch sten ! looks like a pretty sophisticated machine to be made out of wood, but hey.. it's a comic.. and it's built by PUMPKINS so who cares :thumbsup:

Amir
06-17-2003, 01:54 PM
What can I say, Insperational :applause:
For something completely different check mine, I would like to hear what you think:arteest:

Amir
06-17-2003, 02:01 PM
I find that convincing cartoon characters are the hardest to model, So truly - great job . Reminds me of Paul Dini's style for the Batman\Superman cartoons.

Joebount
06-17-2003, 02:06 PM
Thanks Amir, I will check your thread ! :thumbsup:
Fist, I don't think like you, I really prefer the second version, better expression, better pose (and the gun is firmly fixed, that's why it doesn't move ! ;) )

Anyway, once again an update :

http://joebount.free.fr/compo_matth_02.jpg

Joebount
06-17-2003, 02:27 PM
ooops, nevermind :rolleyes:

Dr.Jones
06-17-2003, 02:50 PM
I definitly love the new one. And don't worry Fist, he will make other renders with other expression

Joebount
06-17-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Dr.Jones
I definitly love the new one. And don't worry Fist, he will make other renders with other expression

Uh ? Will I . :surprised :p

Neox
06-17-2003, 03:00 PM
you will, you will :twisted:

swag
06-17-2003, 03:08 PM
Joebount thats great - i like this better than the other but a very very little too much blur (fake dof?) on the focus

visualboo
06-17-2003, 03:27 PM
haha joe :D

Amir
06-17-2003, 03:55 PM
Thank you for your critic and remarks, I think you have a point there about the legs thingies, I already have some other ideas so stay tuned:) - Thanks Joebount.

Thank you Stenarts for the kind words, I'm seriously considering calling the character "OUCH" from now on :D
P.S Bosch (and Bruegel) RULES:buttrock:

stenarts
06-17-2003, 04:57 PM
Phew! Here the vehicle design for the flying Morcps army. Okay..now Neox need some work from me, have to hurry up he for sure already twidle his thumbs and waiting for my sketches of the next character. I hurry up taking the next pumpkin airlines ticket to get right the way to you with all my sketches.... :arteest:

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/05.jpg

One of the wings are not right in perspective but there was no time for fixing that problem.

STEN :rolleyes:

Neox
06-17-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by stenarts
now Neox need some work from me, have to hurry up he for sure already twidle his thumbs and waiting for my sketches

currently sitting on some ingame characters, you'll have time till 8 or 9 pm :D

Mentat7
06-17-2003, 05:37 PM
Holy cheese whiz!! This is super!!! There should be a rule against allowing over achievers into the contests :p Just kidding :D

Apt Pupil
06-17-2003, 08:10 PM
Man, those sketches are really sweet!! Every team needs a concept artist, and . . . this is just too much. I like both the flying contraption and the pumkin cycle. Really nice work. Are they both going to be modeled? (maybe I missed reading this somewhere:sad: )

Joebount --> Pumkin Man looks great. However, I am not much of a fan for very blurry images:p Otherwise, just for overkill, maybe putting some projected shadows of leaves over him and his vehicle could make an already great pic better. Otherwise, really nice work so far.

Neox --> I don't think I commented on yours yet for some reason ( . . . lazyness:p), but, yup, she's great, what's more to say. However, one thing that itches me is that her line between the cheeks and nose is a little to prominent. It makes her look somewhat older than she is. Otherwise, she rocks:buttrock:

I am still wondering how you are all going to bring this together, I can't wait to see it happen. Good luck ~

Amir
06-17-2003, 08:49 PM
Hello again, just updating and enjoying myself with youre work, and just wanted to ask you, could you give some more details on
"Ria - Legend of Light". It looks like something I would like to read/see. :)

Neox
06-18-2003, 12:14 AM
Ok guys here's a small preview of my next Character "Loan".

This time again, just a turnaround, don't want to create a picture for only 3 hours of modelling :D

Avi File - DivX (http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Loan/loan_02.avi)

Loan the young hunter of tenebra and the last from the Tuscas Clan.

No Nosrios can defeat Loans fighting skills and the way he uses his weapons, brought him respect and appreciation in the refugee valley of the souls. His wild temper is hard to rein from time to time and not only his adoptive-Family has to suffer from it. Pride and ambition drive him to highest achievements, but not without annoying his brothers with it. Loans mother loves her adopted son and helps him to find his way. She senses that something inside him is waiting to be touched and awakened by the hands of destiny.

Maybe that is the reason that Loan feels somehow connected to RIA, because she has, just like him, lost all members of the clan through Noctus lethal shadows. During the adventure the distance between the two adolescents vanishes, and they discover a deep affection for each other. But it is a long way for them, until they can unite in the tower of lights.

ilasolomon
06-18-2003, 12:30 AM
TECHNIC + ART + PASSION = PERFECTION, just like this team! (hey, this could be in my signature!)

Hexodam
06-18-2003, 12:44 AM
damn you people!
cant you make anything bad, or even just anything that is not perfect!!:applause: :thumbsup:

dmonk
06-18-2003, 01:10 AM
This is looking so great!:thumbsup:

Virtuoso
06-18-2003, 01:11 AM
Hello Stenarts team: Just want to come in and say I am enjoyng your creativity and talents very much.Even your's Fellah.;)

Joe Bount; Your creation of the Pumpkin man is quite simple in fact.But that can sometimes be the hardest to get something out of.And somehow you have,he looks to come to life as sten had hoped.He looks both devious and fun. very good job Joe.
:beer:

Neox......Well we all have seen many cute/beautiful women in the CG World have we not? But not very many at all with this girls look,she is pleasant,sweet,and does have alot of character to her features. You have also done fantastic in bringing her to life from Sten's great concepts.
Now your new dude too looks like trouble abit at least,but has lots of potential,and with your obvious talent this nice start you have will finish even better. Very nice work.:beer:


Sten: I am very impressed with your creativity most of all.The mystical look and feel.Your concepts are both warm and pleasant,but at the same time fun and devious in some aspects.
I have thought about what would happen if we all mixed in our creativity,what wonders we could achieve,I think very speacial. My true love is World building,set creation,I would just love to see these creations of your team run wild and free in my Worlds,WOW,what a nice picture that would be,architecture,transports,characters. "Matrix extreme I think"...............Your creations are wonderful,full of life,character,and fun.It's like a Disneyland vacation.Keep up the fantastic effort guys.:beer:




Oh yes there is one more of you...........That Viking Bastard Fellah ;) ..........

Fellah I think you have given great justice to Sten's origianal concept/design,it really turned out spot on.But I expected no less from you.I look forward to your next creation all the time.

By the way Sten....................Could you loan out that bastard to me for awhile,oh like a decade or so.We promise to take great care of him here.We will give him fine accomadations in our Dungeon under the Beach.Oh did I say dungeon,I meant Laboratory. We will allow him to run naked after beach bunnies and sleep a whole 4 hours a day......................as long as he creates Cg characters for us the other 20.

;) :p


Cheers to you all,Fantastic art and creativity.:beer:

stenarts
06-18-2003, 06:35 AM
I wake up this morning and started the computer but do not expected much more then a first step from Neox on the next Character. What appears then were your long and a very nice comments....I do not know what to say....THANKS! It was the right motivation especially after so many things went wrong for me yesterday. It was a great pleasure to see that many positive comments for the whole Team...

....thanks for all the good words to all of you...

@Virtuoso: you are really a Stylistic Visionary :)


STEN :wavey:

DimitrisLiatsos
06-18-2003, 07:51 AM
stenarts !!! ..u are killing me !!!...U have no mercy man!!! Excellent work and full of imagination...:bounce:

Now i will go hide in my cave...ok?:scream:

stenarts
06-18-2003, 10:44 AM
Well thatīs now the other Morc leader the one in the Pumpkin cycle...;)


Still needs some modification on his proportion but anyway thought its nice to send that little update as well...

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/07.jpg

STEN :shrug:

Have to work on his legs for sure :wip:

Hexodam
06-18-2003, 11:20 AM
how about giving him a bigger belly :D

stenarts
06-18-2003, 11:24 AM
Yes, thatīs what i want to go for with his design but as well the legs need some more work and i want to give him a more clear action line in his body which will fit more with his personality then.

Thanks for the suggestion,

STEN :thumbsup:

Hexodam
06-18-2003, 06:35 PM
hey, another idea for the steriotype leader type, a beard, leaders always have beards:bounce:

antnik
06-18-2003, 07:13 PM
Hi stenarts. You have fantastic style and you are doing GREAT WORK...Very inspirational...
:applause: :applause:

Amir
06-18-2003, 09:05 PM
As promised I'm visiting to see whats new. It feels like I'm watching some special features of a TV series.
Realy realy well done:applause: :bowdown: :applause:
I said id before - insperational.

Neox
06-19-2003, 12:15 AM
the last version... not that much and still al lot to change/fix... i don't have enough time during the week to "really" work on this :hmm:

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Loan/loan_04.avi

luigi
06-19-2003, 12:30 AM
:surprised :surprised

woww


please can we sea wire version of this face


and other of the hands of ria



this tema rocks

waiting the updates ;) :love:

erik2003
06-19-2003, 01:36 AM
Neox you're doing it...

That's a cool face you did there, i like position and shape of the eyes, its different!

Great modeling.

Carny
06-19-2003, 12:01 PM
W'sub with you Buddy?
Try a bit harder on modeling! I know you can to that better! It look slike you are doing your own Loan and not Stan's Loan. There is still ALOT space till perfection.

@Joebount: Great work, I like your texture style.

Neox
06-19-2003, 12:39 PM
i know, it looks like loans little brother ;)
i'll change that when sten and marcus are critizising me on friday :D

@erik, a good face... hmm maybe but not the one that it is supposed to be :D

nibo
06-19-2003, 01:12 PM
Wow this thread is really fun to follow!!
The conceptart is just awsome!!
That green chick is really sexy :love: , only her solid eyes bother me a bit.
I think I like the slim pumpkin-guy more than the fat one.
But that's just me.
Anyway, keep going guys, this will turn out fantastic!

:beer:

fellah
06-19-2003, 02:24 PM
wow, I go away for a few days and now all this.. crazy!! great concepts sten, and good start on the model neox. I know you'll be able to make it more justice once you get more time for it.
I think there are a tad to much effects in the pic joebount. but I'm sure we will see more, as mentioned before :D

Virtuoso, ahahahah! :D maybe if we change that from 20h work/4h beachbunnies/sleep, to something like 4work to 20beachbunnies/sleep.. :cool:

stenarts
06-19-2003, 05:19 PM
Just another try for the other Morc leader...

STEN

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/08.jpg

stenarts
06-19-2003, 07:24 PM
Well, thought the one above looks more like a soldier and thatīs why I used the suggestion from one of you to make the leader with a beard. Not really a nice guy but sure he will sometimes have a more friendly and trustworthy smile on his face... ;)


http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/09.jpg

KingMob
06-19-2003, 07:26 PM
oh man... You guys need to just stop making this a challenge entry and actually make a game!

This is to damn cool....style, execution and everything in between.

REALLY well done all of you, always a pleasure to watch any of you guys make something, but as a team I am floored.

Someone give these guys a budget to make a series QUICK!
:beer:

Hexodam
06-19-2003, 07:41 PM
hahaha the one with the beard looks like a total psycho:eek:

:thumbsup:

Joebount
06-19-2003, 07:44 PM
I'll take care of the psychooooooo mouahahahahhahha !
Awesome sketch dude and thanks for the kind words guys !

Gamoron
06-19-2003, 10:17 PM
First Class stuff being produced here guys.:thumbsup: I'm dying to see the finished piece.

stenarts
06-19-2003, 10:32 PM
Here is the one you asked for Joebount.....

Wow, thanks to all for the good words we are thankful as well for all the comments and critic which helps already a lot to make some necessary changes.

STEN :)

http://www.stenarts.com/cgtalk/10.jpg

Joebount
06-20-2003, 12:23 AM
Repeat after me : Sten is a god ...

Hexodam
06-20-2003, 12:46 AM
STEN IS A GOD :wavey:

Frinsklen
06-20-2003, 01:06 AM
Sten is a God...

Joebount: lovely modeling, just make sure your 3d characters match the dynamism and the strength that there is on Sten's sketches. I mean, use them not only as reference material for character's proportions and all, but also as a guideance for the expression, the expressiveness -??- of your scenes, u know what i mean... I hope... :P kinda hard to achieve, I know.

what can I say, amazing work everyone!

:buttrock:

stenarts
06-20-2003, 01:12 AM
Cuck Jones, Doug Chiang, George Lucas, Tashin Enis Özgür and Loisel as well as Claire Wendling and Ian Mc Caig are maybe gods but Sten is just a reflection of the team around him. Iīm very proud that we have opened that thread here which helps us all to learn from each other and to use every critic here very wisley to push our project the right direction.

STEN ;)

( joebount ) :surprised :wip: ( Sten )

Joebount
06-20-2003, 02:56 AM
Ok ok ok, I won't say that anymore master (uh, did I say "Master ? :D )

Well, nothing fancy so far, just a simple turnaround (18 rated, he doesn't wear any panty, warning ! :p )

Click me ! (divx inside) (http://joebount.free.fr/birdie_turn_03.avi)

swag
06-20-2003, 04:44 AM
Sten beautiful concepts:) the last one i dont understand he looks like a flying bird but where are the wings (or what will take him not down? is there a magic gravity):surprised

stenarts
06-20-2003, 06:58 AM
Hey Swag,

your question: " the last one i dont understand he looks like a flying bird but where are the wings (or what will take him not down? "

The world of Ria is called " Tenebra " and full of different creatures where some can fly like by magic gravity and other breath under water without any gill. I do not want to tell to much about her world because of the secrets and surprises I would otherwise loose or tell to early before you see all the images.

But so far I can say: " Nothing really seems to be impossible in a world connected by the fruits of the Tueri plant like with gateways to other dimensions. "

STEN :)

Joebount
06-20-2003, 03:32 PM
Here is our friend Moha, say hi to him ! A turnaround will follow !

http://joebount.free.fr/moha_matth_01.jpg

Neox
06-20-2003, 03:46 PM
nice very nice :)
if i only have time to do more :hmm:

hey some things you could change :)
maybe give the feet a little more feedshape
and maybe wive the eyes more eyeshape (eyelids) hmmm but thats not on the sketch eitcher... so forget it :D

swag
06-20-2003, 04:04 PM
Sten i thought he would look funny with some very small wings like Watto in EP1/2
Moha looks fantastic like the concept :thumbsup:

mv
06-20-2003, 04:29 PM
Yeah Joe! great! sten's sketch was excellent and you followed it perfectly:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

dominicqwek
06-20-2003, 09:41 PM
Really good stuff..totally resembles the sketch. Good one Joe.!:thumbsup:

visualboo
06-20-2003, 10:23 PM
Arn't there two more blokes in this thing? ;) :beer:

DimitrisLiatsos
06-20-2003, 10:29 PM
:bounce: Joebount ... i have to say this ...as all French artists ..u are tooo good man!...now i will go and put some more VODKA in my glass ...SALUTE!!!

Joebount
06-20-2003, 10:36 PM
Thanks guys ! :)
If only french artists could have jobs, if only :cry: :cry: :cry:

--> joebount is a nice guy, he loves doing 3D art, easy to live with, give him a job, you won't regret ! <--

Anywhere in any english or french speaking country ! :wavey:

DimitrisLiatsos
06-20-2003, 10:39 PM
:bounce: Man with the OLYMPICS 2004 coming near if they need a good modeler/texturer...u are hired.....from me in the studio that i work!!!:thumbsup:

KingMob
06-20-2003, 11:54 PM
Joe if I had a company...or a job to recomend you to I would, your doing some REALLY great work man, im super impressed.

Keep up this work and you won't have trouble getting work im sure :)

:beer:

Joebount
06-21-2003, 12:37 AM
Thanks guys, you are nice, it touch me :beer:
here is the turnaround : clock me !!! (http://joebount.free.fr/birdie_turn_04.avi)

Neox
06-21-2003, 01:51 AM
Ok i'll change ria and loan tomorrow, when sten is here to critizise em ;)

here what i've done the last few hours :)

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/pumpkins/bike_01.jpg

have to add some details but mainly its done... i hope... :D

zzzrByte
06-21-2003, 02:15 AM
Ooooh... Poofy! I mean, you really captured the feeling that the pumpkin and the seats are filled and bursting at the seams. Good job! Can't wait to see more progress!

Troub
06-21-2003, 08:39 AM
this is to nice to be real :beer:

ahh, wait, it isn't, is it?
it's cg.

:applause:

joebount, good luck, i'm sure you'll get a job in no time, great work.
neox, great work, though i remember in stens sketches the backwheels were more off-angle, don't know for sure but could focus more the comiclike look

but who am i to crit this. :bowdown:

great work yall

stenarts
06-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Hey Troub,

we are thankful for every critic if it is in a sense of guiding us towards a better result on our models. Your are welcome and thatīs what such a forum are use to be or? A place of presenting and helping each other forward...?

There are a great book called " Drawings that life " here is one part I really like: " Imagine we are making a sculpture. The first step is building the armature of wire. In a sense, this is the basic element in portraying the gesture - the line of action or the simple form of action.

No two artists do this the same way but all strive for certain basic characteristics. " ( written by Glenn Vilppu )

I dont know why your comment reminds me this part of that book but thought it is really to the point...we did the basic like Neox said, now i will discuss with him how to fit better with the dynamic of the lines in the drawing to bring the same dynamic to the shapes of the model.

So we are thankful apart from your professional or even if you just a beginner at the 3d field to hear about your comments.

Keep going and let us know what you think as well about details of our work...

STEN ;)

Joebount
06-21-2003, 11:42 AM
Just a color test and slightly modified

http://joebount.free.fr/birdie_panorama_05.jpg

and the turnaround :

click here (http://joebount.free.fr/birdie_turn_06.avi)

ki oku
06-21-2003, 12:55 PM
hrm, I really think yu should change the form of the feet a bit..

nice work guys ;)

Kozlow
06-21-2003, 04:18 PM
Hi,
im realy great fun of your 3d and 2d work . Nice comic touch it all has a style it all is already an icon.
Take care:beer: :thumbsup:
Kamil

Neox
06-21-2003, 04:25 PM
http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Loan/loan_02.jpg

ok here's a sneak peak on Loan, sten was here a few hours ago, so we changed him a lot... i'm going to model the hair now :)

Joebount
06-21-2003, 04:30 PM
But, but .... Neox, it's awfull !!!!!! HE HIS BALDDDDDDD ARGGGGGGG

Aearon
06-21-2003, 06:51 PM
everything still going awesome guys :bounce:

hey there is so much going on in this thread, i actually missed the bike neox, i think it'll be great once it's textured like joe's porc morc :D :D

the only crit i have is that the wheels need to be tooned up, a bit too uniform maybe

anyway, i can only repeat myself.. great work on everything so far, love all the cute creatures.. all of you are truly doing stens sketches justice :thumbsup:

swag
06-21-2003, 09:06 PM
Loan looks great but i think the shape looks too friendly he is one of the best hunter around "Loan the young Hunter of the Tuscas Clan" and i think the sculpture by Marcus Koch transport this more
neox have u the sculpture for reference?

this is not a crit but i saw the sculpture this was my first thought

stenarts
06-21-2003, 09:26 PM
@swag: This is the basic we had only made the right proportions today and finalized his face. We now do the hair and other details to finalize the whole shape and look of the head afterwards more work on his personality will follow. The Sculpture is great for sure but here we did the basic and for me its a matter of the expressions...when we play around with his expressions we will post a new image which will fit better with his personality. Neox just did the modifications i asked for and it works great for me so far....all the next steps will give him back his nature of a great hunter of Tenebra....;)

STEN :wavey:

mv
06-21-2003, 10:48 PM
You're doing a wonderful job guys! all of you! Loan's head is so nice, very clean and expressive! I'd like to see the wire :)

KingMob
06-21-2003, 11:30 PM
hey guys, any chance we could look at the poly cages for these awesome characters...you guys have such a great clean look I would love to check out the wires.

Bu tnot if it takes to much time away from making more great stuff like this.

:beer:

genesis max
06-22-2003, 12:54 AM
Oh, KingMob beats me. I also want to see poly cages of this. For all guys here : Great work

Gamoron
06-22-2003, 01:12 AM
This is fantastic! I want to play it!

Neox
06-22-2003, 01:56 AM
shame on me i got a 5sided polygone in his nose and one in his ear :cry:

http://neox.gfx-scene.de/public/Legend-of-Light/Loan/loan_wire.jpg

but my first mesh without any triangles :eek: