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06-09-2003, 05:04 PM

Shiva- World Destroyer.
A basic shoot'em up in which the player assume the role of Shiva, World Destroyer whose mission it is to destroy everything in the world.

Since I rarely follow my own sketches, I'm just gonna make things up as I go along. Here's the head first, just a basic model, no textures, so it still looks kinda tame.

06-09-2003, 05:44 PM
good to see you here. :thumbsup: pretty clueless to the design stilll. im sure it'll turn up good. nothing to crit 'cept the ears which i guess u have not tweaked.

06-09-2003, 06:25 PM
great head..very androgynic, with an innocent feel in it.. very fitting with the Shiva character.

06-09-2003, 06:37 PM
Nice to see your in on this one... great start, always liked your style of modeling. Will follow this one for sure...


06-09-2003, 07:07 PM
COOL start!!!!And...good luck!I always like your models!!!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

06-09-2003, 08:41 PM
nice head, don't like the ears at the moment - but I think it's too early for real critics

really enjoyed your other challenges, so I'm sure this one will be great too ;)

06-09-2003, 08:47 PM
Nice face...:thumbsup: go on man....;)

06-10-2003, 04:46 PM

The latest update. Thanks for the encouragements.

06-11-2003, 12:09 PM
MMh something tell me that this guy love pretty fantasy or shi fi girls hu? HE HE HE HE;)
Still u rox over!:applause:

06-13-2003, 05:43 PM
A couple of new updates on the face and body


06-13-2003, 07:49 PM
go go go! make it before frozen throne hits the stores!!:thumbsup:

No crits for now, im pretty certain that this model has yet to be tweaked.;)

06-13-2003, 08:34 PM
Shiva has always been one of my favorite deities, so I can't wait to see what you end up with :)

06-17-2003, 05:26 PM

The latest updates: did some tweaking on the face plus added the eyelashes. Also started work on the gear- starting with the boots working upwards from there.

06-17-2003, 07:43 PM
heh. kinky! :bounce: love her...erm..undies? if u're goin for an overall sleek look with the calves(which i think you are), would suggest narrowing the middle portion(right above the ankles), If its gonna have that bulky look..enlarge the feet.

Are u gonna work on the ears anymore?! :scream:

Sigh. Wish there were more than the both of us in this challenge. Oh, there's still mc. wonder hows he doing.:surprised

06-19-2003, 05:28 PM

Dom- I might go back to tweak the ears when I have time. Progress is quite slow.

06-19-2003, 06:32 PM
that is damn kinky man. LOL. gosh those buckles!!! Looks like you're living off your fantasies when u model eh? :scream:

she's pretty. I like her face.

06-20-2003, 01:25 AM
dom- there's still some much work and tweaking to be done, I wonder if its another project that's not going to be finish on time. No time to fantasize man.

Looks like its just you and me pal, at least this time I have some company. You're making good progress on your character, have you started the rigging yet? Your're getting good response as well, work hard.:beer:

06-20-2003, 01:53 AM
Excellent job (as usual I would say ;) )! Just the ears that bother me a bit, except that, great work ! :thumbsup:

06-20-2003, 04:39 AM
I just want to push those buckles on her thong. My god, how I want to.

Very nice work dude. I love the exaggerated proportions on her face. It has a childlike innocence about her. Reminds me of those TDK ads where the peoples eyes and ears get distorted.

06-20-2003, 10:46 AM
She's beautiful. In a world saturated with prety girl like characters (I use the words girl like because most of them are built in a way they would knock themselves out with their silicone implants the first time they attempt to run) you managed to avoid that trap. And although she's dressed .... sexy, you somehow managed to make it look, I dont know, functional :thumbsup:
Its a face I would remember if I saw it in a promotional piece.
P.s I like the fact that she has slightly larger than "perfect fit" ears - adds character.

Just one thing though. Shiva is an interesting choice, and open before you some wonderful design options from the incredible indian mythos and legends, thus adding to the character uniqueness, it would be a shame, in my opinion, not to use it.:)

06-20-2003, 10:54 AM
She to me is very generic,not beautiful,but pleasant,good loking.i wish you could have gone the more sheek route.Flowing clothes.I know you have a plan to follow.;)
I think you need something to spice things up abit,just too generic.Still your work is nice,no complaints there.


06-20-2003, 11:38 AM
marc-sadly. as i've spoken to u over icq..one of my processors sorta died on me. Well i could still work on one, but i need to get some thermal grease. Seems like it'll take week cos the guy im looking for at SLS went for reservice!! ARGH!:banghead:

Will taking this time to plan her textures. No rigging as yet. :hmm:

06-20-2003, 06:37 PM

Managed to make a little progress today :applause:

dom- bummer...

Katss- can't say I have any specific plans, just flying by the seat of my pants. I try to spice it up as I go along.

Amir- I do hope to incorporate some of the traditional legends into the character but honestly I have no idea how this is going to turn out. I guess its sort of like a doodle.

Ionized, Joebount- hopefully I can get around to tweaking the ears, but there's a chance it won't be seen at all.

06-21-2003, 12:19 PM
More development-


06-21-2003, 12:20 PM

06-21-2003, 01:25 PM
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:
The backpack of the death ! You rulz !

06-22-2003, 08:22 PM
I'm loving everything about this entry, especially the face. The two extra arms and the pack are great great additions.



06-22-2003, 08:25 PM
Nice clean look.Rather dull for the most part in my humble opinion.But still the work level of your modeling is very good.I just need more spice I quess,it's a taste thing really,not you I am sure.I don't care for the extra arms one bit either.
Besides the negatives the positives do out weigh the nit-picks.Still a very nice entry.:thumbsup: :)

06-23-2003, 02:30 AM
Very good work and clean modelling :thumbsup: go on...:applause:

06-23-2003, 05:25 AM

Started texturing on the head. Realize last night that the aspect ratio on my monitor is out of whack, so now I have to do some extensive tweaking on the model.:annoyed:

Magnusv- the extra arms is based more on less on the legend of Shiva. Couldn't called her that without it at least having some sort of connection to the legend.

Joebount, KWAK, antnik- thanks

06-23-2003, 05:28 AM
I think your doing a very nice job Hand.Very clean,and a bit whimsical,she looks very pleasant. Really smooth work.Keep it up,it's already very nice, she has promise,and it shows it will go still further,very delicate looking,sweet,even in battle gear.Nice.:thumbsup: :beer:

06-28-2003, 06:20 PM
Latest update:


Haven't been able to work on it as much as I had wanted to. Majority of the time so far has been spent laying out the UVs.

Colin de bink
06-28-2003, 07:13 PM
hey why didn't I see this tread before
It's really looking awsome
no crit just awaiting your progess

06-28-2003, 08:00 PM
She is really coming along. :cool:

The texturing brings the face together, and though I always thought the ears were wide, with the headgear they work. :thumbsup:

Looking forward to watching the progress.

Great Work!

06-28-2003, 09:04 PM
Very clean modelling.
I realy like your clothing design. :thumbsup:

06-29-2003, 05:17 PM

Just did some texturing today. Also tweaked the model somewhat. Getting kinkier by the minute:p

06-29-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by the_hand
[IMG]Just did some texturing today. Also tweaked the model somewhat. Getting kinkier by the minute:p

You don't hear me complaining :D

Please, continue! It's going great :thumbsup:

06-30-2003, 07:36 AM
Hi Hand !. i always liked your work man and i really have no any special comments so far...only a personal taste thing with the eye color...it's the only thing that gives a strange look to me...just a thought. other than that TOP WORK as always.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

06-30-2003, 04:37 PM
The model is coming along nicely.
A question,
How are you planning to do the hair?


06-30-2003, 04:37 PM
The model is coming along nicely.
A question,
How are you planning to do the hair?


06-30-2003, 07:38 PM
Hi hand... I like your work.:thumbsup: Keep working. :beer:

06-30-2003, 08:08 PM
Great work. Is she still going to have 4 arms? I looked through your thread and did not see where you mentioned she has two now. I will be watching for more. Excellent job.

06-30-2003, 09:35 PM
Looks real good.But the tones of colors around the eyes are not appealing to me,but that is just my taste I quess.The girl needs hair too.:p
The shoulder or lower arm armor too is off to me,it does not look as good as the other armor.
Still a nice piece of work.Just needs something more,I don't know what,I think you should not overdo this model,it is not called for, but still a little something more,I'll leave that to you.
Well done to this point.
:thumbsup: :)

07-02-2003, 04:55 PM

Started texturing on the model- progressing slowly.

DimitrisLiatsos- yeah, this is not a natural eye color, maybe that's why it doesn't look right to you.

RobertoOrtiz- I am going to do the hair last, hopefully there will be time to do it before the deadline.

Wilson 3d- if time allows it. if not the two arms will have to be sacrificed

Steveyola- there's supposed to be a weapon attached to the lower right arm, that's why it's lacking in details right now. again I hope to find the time to do it properly.

07-02-2003, 04:56 PM

07-02-2003, 08:25 PM
hand this is looking f'ing amazing! The deathbackpack, and all the arms, definitely needs like 6 or 8 of them. the modeling and textures so far look great...keep it up...

07-03-2003, 07:33 AM
It's definitely getting kinkier in every post u make .... :drool: :drool:

07-03-2003, 09:11 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool: wow.... looking good. Keep it up.

07-05-2003, 06:04 PM
Some new texture updates-


mattregnier- currently I'm running out of time, so I am sacrificing the extra arms. I will put them back if I can squeeze in some time.

antnik- thanks

07-05-2003, 06:05 PM
A closeup of the model and textures-


07-05-2003, 07:15 PM
Nice update, however, I liked the bra without the kulls more :shrug:

07-06-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by BladeFX
Nice update, however, I liked the bra without the kulls more :shrug:

I second that. I like 'em better without the skulls, too.

So that's already two votes against it :p

07-06-2003, 05:44 PM

Starting on the rigging. Here's a initial test pose.

BladeFX, Hellwolve- you guys are right bout the skulls, not such a great idea after all.

07-06-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by the_hand
Starting on the rigging. Here's a initial test pose.

Great test pose! One smiley says all: :buttrock:

Originally posted by the_hand
BladeFX, Hellwolve- you guys are right bout the skulls, not such a great idea after all.

Heh, NP for opening your eyes ;)

07-06-2003, 06:35 PM
:thumbsup: She is definitely HOT!!!!...sorry...:drool: :drool:

07-06-2003, 07:47 PM
Cool. Can't wait to see more :applause:

07-06-2003, 08:49 PM
eyyy... I missed this thread.

Great work...looking real good :thumbsup:

I hope you can manage to do her hair in time. Would like to see it with hair ;)

07-06-2003, 11:19 PM
Woah, the subtle intensity in her eyes is phenominal, keep it up!

07-06-2003, 11:33 PM
Nice,but sooo cold.Hair really would bring her up a level.I don't care much for the skin tones,the eye make-up.But still it's a real nice model,just some issues with taste on my part don't mind that too much.But this is a very nice model.Clean work as well.:thumbsup: :)

07-07-2003, 06:55 AM
Hellwolve- guess I was going overboard with the whole skull motif.

DimitrisLiatsos- thats' okay, she's supposed to be hot.

DavidKwok- can't wait to see more or can't wait to see her in less:D

H13- I hope to be able to do the hair this week, hopefully the hair will turn out ok.

Dirk_P_Ho- thanks

janhath- its a deliberate decision on my part to make her deathly pale, afterall can't afford to have a symbol of death and destruction walking around with a nice sunny tan:)

07-07-2003, 06:57 AM

A new testpose. Still yet to finetune the points on the hands.

07-07-2003, 11:53 AM
You must be doing this at work!! LOL. Thigh deformation looks too sharp, nice pose.

07-07-2003, 05:46 PM
She looks better and better!


And I agree with Dom; the thigh is oddly deformed.

Oh, and I couldn't find it: how many polly's is she?

07-07-2003, 10:01 PM
I realy like your poses.
Especially you avatar :thumbsup:

07-07-2003, 10:54 PM
She looks Badass,I like...But yeah the pinch at the thigh should be fixed.

07-08-2003, 02:16 AM
Wow, she looks really cool, sexy and dangerous. The contrast you have got between the skin and the armour too works really well. Slight variations in the grey tones are fantastic.

At first I thought this one was going to be too plain and lacking detail, but you have really proved my initial reaction wrong. The detail you have is very subtle and elegant and I especially love the suspenders.

My hat goes off to you sir. It's definately my favourite entry so far and something I would expect to see in a Final fantasy cutscene.

Just one question... is Shiva a man or a woman according to the hindu traditions? I originally though he was a male.

07-08-2003, 05:19 AM
Yeah, the thighs are giving me problems. I am still adjusting the envelopes there to get it to deform better.

Ionized- I took a little artistic license with Indian mythology on this. Good catch:p Shiva supposed to be male.

07-08-2003, 03:19 PM

Started on the hair modelling. No textures yet, a lot of mirroring. I will break the symmetry once I am satisfied with the overall look. C&C are welcomed

07-08-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by the_hand
Started on the hair modelling. No textures yet, a lot of mirroring. I will break the symmetry once I am satisfied with the overall look. C&C are welcomed

Even if the hair looks good, I like her better without hair, for the simple reason that it was orginal :)

07-08-2003, 04:01 PM
When you're donne, would you mind rendering a 1600 x 1200 desktop with a cool pose?

great job, keep going :beer:

Colin de bink
07-08-2003, 04:44 PM
I got used to that head thing and I liked that very much
but whit hair she is more feminine so I supose whit hair is better :buttrock:
keep it up

07-08-2003, 04:48 PM
mh i didn't like the look of the face at all previously.. now it looks fabulous, great work. and i agree, the hair adds a lots of course

07-08-2003, 10:35 PM

This is looking fantastic and is my favourite also. Please consider dropping the hair, from the two pictures on this page she looks SO much more interesting without it.

Good luck!


07-08-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by allseeingi

This is looking fantastic and is my favourite also. Please consider dropping the hair, from the two pictures on this page she looks SO much more interesting without it.

Good luck!


Good, that means I'm not alone in this :beer:

07-09-2003, 02:58 AM
lookin good, i woulda pictured her with a pony tail tho :) still uber though

The FreakyOne
07-09-2003, 05:18 AM
OMG!! i just wet my self lol
this is amazing but the lips. make the wider sort of just a little other thenthen i wet my self again :p

07-10-2003, 09:28 AM
latest update:

Hellwolve, allseeingi- unfortunately I have always envision the character with hair. I only put off modelling the hair until the last minute because its my least favorite thing to do- second only to rigging. I still appreciate the input anyway, thanks

BladeFX- sure, I'll post a good one on my site after the challenge

nickRX- if I had ran out of time, then I would've use a ponytail instead.

Thanks all for the input.

07-10-2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by the_hand
...Hellwolve, allseeingi- unfortunately I have always envision the character with hair. I only put off modelling the hair until the last minute because its my least favorite thing to do- second only to rigging. I still appreciate the input anyway, thanks...

NP. And it's not that I dislike her with hair ;)

Colin de bink
07-10-2003, 04:50 PM
looking very nice
though you might want to make the eyebrows more black then the purple that it is now. purple eyebrows are kinda weird I think

keep up :thumbsup:

07-10-2003, 08:18 PM
I love what you've done with her!

Keep it up! I can't wait to see it finished.


07-11-2003, 12:28 AM
wooo ! Really nice expression and such a hot sexy look !
Perhaps the end of the hairs are too thin, it's strange (I have the same problems with my hairs ;)
I agree with Colin de bink about the eyebrows !
Keep the pressure, we are close to the end !

07-11-2003, 09:25 AM

Here it is, nearing final completion. Still need to adjust the lighting and add a background to it. As for the eyebrows will change that later.

07-11-2003, 10:10 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool: Oh MY GOD!!!!...mama! i want my mama!!

07-11-2003, 10:20 AM
wooooooooooooow!!! awesome :):buttrock:

07-11-2003, 10:34 AM
I'll repeat myself...can't help it...great pose!

It's so "Come and get me. I won't bite...much."

07-11-2003, 10:49 AM
Wow :drool:

07-11-2003, 02:50 PM
Being so attracted to a digital image is depressing me. That means you've done exceedingly well. Very well done.

07-11-2003, 06:22 PM
I just want to thank everyone for their suggestions and critiques and for taking the time post their comments.:applause:

07-11-2003, 06:28 PM
DimitrisLiatsos, scroll_lock, Hellwolve, rremzie, Dirk_P_Ho- thanks guys.

07-11-2003, 06:29 PM

Here's a shot of the wireframe.

07-11-2003, 06:30 PM
Okay, here's the final renders with the background comped in PS.


07-11-2003, 06:35 PM
For sure I wanna play with her ! :drool: But, littl cheap detail : plastic stuff to fix her cloth : Do Shiva use plastic ? Bones, yeah, metal yeah, human skin yeah ! plastic ? ... :applause:

07-11-2003, 06:39 PM
HI @the_hand,
great outcome, she's realy well done, lovely modeling, with fancy details, nice textures but what is most important a clear personality of the char. I like the PS postwork as well.
Take care and good luck
Kamil:wavey: :thumbsup:

07-11-2003, 08:45 PM
she is beautiful - texture/shader could by better

07-11-2003, 08:56 PM
My faveorite girl..Very good job the_hand... :thumbsup: I wish yuo good luck. :thumbsup: :beer:

07-12-2003, 12:57 PM
just simply beautiful work ... great piece & love the pose

you put together a really lovely image ... she gorgeous and wicked ... the way we all want em':thumbsup:

07-12-2003, 01:32 PM
:drool: :drool: :drool: ...Man ..that's wicked...!!!!

07-12-2003, 04:11 PM
:thumbsup: it turned out really nice! you did a great amount of work on this one, and it shows.
But I agree with Joe... the plastic looks kinda out of place for the "Shiva" character.. but anyway, it fits your character well. Great style.

07-16-2003, 01:41 PM
The face is extremely impressive. The hands I'm not so keen on, but everything else looks wonderful.
Very well done.:)

07-20-2003, 07:59 PM
Well I'm impressed Hand :) its pretty good to me ;) I do admitt the hands needs work but other then that can I have her phone number? lol keep it up man! your works are great! very inspiring eh :)

07-23-2003, 06:56 AM
Her hands could be much more elegant/shapely. The way she is posed your eye is drawn out to her stumpy little hands! Also, the clothing around her breasts could be more flattering.

A lot of artists are content to have a manikin face but hers has character.

Very Brom-ish in pose and colour....not a bad thing!

: )

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