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Brosa
09-30-2008, 01:34 AM
Hi everyone. Some months ago I posted here asking someone to help me solve a problem. I couldnt solve it, but I've beeing investigating and I've arrived to the solution that I need to changing the RAKE. I need to drag the color thats under the color I'm painting, but it doesnt drags. I think the rake is what I need to change, But I cant touch it becouse it appears in grey, not in black, in the menu. WHY?

Need to DRAG the COLOR and I've got the square "pick up the underlaying color" selected, so this is not the problem.

AH! I'm working with TINTINGS basic round, and I want this effect http://brosa.deviantart.com/art/Someone-Cares-80681343 zoom http://brosah.deviantart.com/art/part-of-a-drawing-89430243 and look at this http://brosah.deviantart.com/art/something-2-89432747

Now I think its the Rake!! I'm almost sure. I'm working on an Imac G5 and using corel painter IX.

I have to give the thanks to a girl that help me in the past, so sure she can help me again.

Fes
09-30-2008, 01:35 PM
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but to drag the colour underneath the one you are painting go to Windows/Brush Controls/Well/ and put Resaturation to 0%. If you don't want any blending or transparency turn down the Bleed in the same place.

The Rake option is only available if you are using a 'Rake' brush - see the Pens and the Blender Water Rake.

Brosa
09-30-2008, 02:36 PM
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but to drag the colour underneath the one you are painting go to Windows/Brush Controls/Well/ and put Resaturation to 0%. If you don't want any blending or transparency turn down the Bleed in the same place.

The Rake option is only available if you are using a 'Rake' brush - see the Pens and the Blender Water Rake.


Thanks, but this is not the problem. Let me explain you better what I need. I use to paint with the colors on a full blending, Bleed at 100% and with an opacity between 20 and 30% the Resat was like 20%. The main problem is that my brush doesnt drags the color that is under the one I'm painting as before. Its just that, maybe I'm painting with a light green over a dark brown and the Brown doesn't drags, I just can cover with the color. I have to say that I had to reinstal painter becouse I cleaned my computer.

Hecartha
09-30-2008, 03:24 PM
AH! I'm working with TINTINGS basic roundThe main problem is that my brush doesnt drags the color that is under the one I'm painting as before.Try to activate the "brush loading" box from the well palette (one of the brush controls palettes)

Brosa
09-30-2008, 03:30 PM
Try to activate the "brush loading" box from the well palette (one of the brush controls palettes)

Thanks but I guess this one is not the problem. And If I do that, it goes worst. But thanks, I'm really pleased.


OOH... I need help...

Hecartha
09-30-2008, 04:00 PM
Don't you want to be able to drag color?

If you are using the default basic round variant from the tinting brush category, you need to change some settings:
-activate the brush loading to be able to drag color
-the box at the side of the bleed expression is enabled, so it will invert the bleed when you will use pressure, more you press and less it will use the bleed. So uncheck this box and perhaps you may try to remove any expression from the bleed

Now, perhaps I don't understand what effect you are expecting

Brosa
09-30-2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks but it doesnt works. When I press the brush loading box, its like if the brush doenst paint so much, and when I check the other box near the bleeding there's no difference.

THE COLOR UNDER THE COLOR I'M USING DOESN'T DRAGS. (excusme for the mayus, its to help to read it fast)

I have to thank you so much and I really apreciate that you spend your time trying to help me. I need to solve it, couse I have many drawing to paint for job. someone will kill me

rattsang
09-30-2008, 06:54 PM
Thanks but it doesnt works. When I press the brush loading box, its like if the brush doenst paint so much, and when I check the other box near the bleeding there's no difference.

THE COLOR UNDER THE COLOR I'M USING DOESN'T DRAGS. (excusme for the mayus, its to help to read it fast)

I have to thank you so much and I really apreciate that you spend your time trying to help me. I need to solve it, couse I have many drawing to paint for job. someone will kill me

the drip method can drag underlying color- i cant be bothered messing with the settings to calibrate this but change the method to drip and then experiment.

Brosa
09-30-2008, 07:21 PM
the drip method can drag underlying color- i cant be bothered messing with the settings to calibrate this but change the method to drip and then experiment.

Nope, this is not the problem, I tried some of this options, but I'm really sure that the problem is THE RAKE. I need to can activate the RAKE.

Thank you so much. I need more people to help me, please masters of corel painter, give me solutions, please!!

rattsang
09-30-2008, 07:29 PM
Nope, this is not the problem, I tried some of this options, but I'm really sure that the problem is THE RAKE. I need to can activate the RAKE.

Thank you so much. I need more people to help me, please masters of corel painter, give me solutions, please!!


rake in painter has nothing to do with blending- rake specifies that the tip splits into segments.

perhaps you are confused by the blending water rake

rattsang
09-30-2008, 07:56 PM
ok i think i know what you are looking for- your images don't make it very clear.

reset the tinting basic round:
1. change opacity to 30%
2. change resaturation to 50% and bleed to 100%

Hecartha
09-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Ok, last try :D
See this video (http://hecartha.free.fr/Painter%20X/Painter_IX.5_-_Rake/Rake.html), is there any one of this result you are trying to get?
As rattsang said, the rake has nothing to do with blending or dragging color BUT it is possible to use it to soften brush edge at low pressure using "soften bristle edge" in rake palette

Anyway, you said in your first post the rake was in grey using the basic round variant from the tinting brush category, in fact it should be accessible if you are using the default settings with this brush.

Brosa
09-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Have you record this? Well, what I can see in the video is that your blending a lot the color. I'm not searching a good blending, I want to bleed it. You have a result so likely as me, but I dont blend the brush. You can see that when you make a stroke form brown to green, YOU DONT DRAG THE BROWN INSIDE THE GREEN, althought you have the green light selected, understand? I know that it is possible becouse I did it in the past and I've got a freind that does it. He told me that is the RAKE BRISTLE.

Thanks for everything, hope to can repair it

Fes
09-30-2008, 11:14 PM
If you really want to activate the Rake you can change it in any brush under the General tab under Stroke Type.

Sounds to me like you mean Smear not Bleed. Try a variant on the Smear brush in Blenders?

Brosa
10-01-2008, 05:52 PM
Problem Solved!! Thanks Everyone

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