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RobertoOrtiz
09-24-2008, 07:00 PM
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gTalk:FXWars! Flying Car! - Challenge:21
CgTalk: FXWars! Flying Car!

From wikipedia:

Flying car (aircraft) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car_(aircraft)), or roadable aircraft, is an automobile that can legally travel on roads and can take off, fly, and land as an aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying Car (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car_(fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_car_(fiction))
THE CHALLENGE:

Render a realistic, or fantasy type animation of Flying Car doing what it does best.
Think the good parts of the film Fith Element...and you get the idea.






HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF Flying Cars from past films:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bRtzwK4rY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bRtzwK4rY&feature=related)
Fith Element (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhlD6q71YA)
Blade Runner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrOVLEUBgw)
Back To the future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Rngy90Q14)
Serenity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXYN07hb08)
Space Precint (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkW_k8FZMGY)
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1TsNsB6ww)
Harry Potter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quM5--D-w2Q)
The Last Starfighter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpF6mWwlR0)
You may look some famous flying cars from past films:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinner_(Blade_Runner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinner_(Blade_Runner))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine) (Back to the Future)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitty_Chitty_Bang_Bang_(film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitty_Chitty_Bang_Bang_(film))Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1TsNsB6ww)
The entry with the best VISUAL EFFECTS will be selected by an open vote. (You may do the entry anyway way you want , an FX piece with live action, a synthetic cg entry or a hybrid. The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner designed by me.

Keep in mind that the entry can be set in ANY time period, and the style of the project can be either in a realistic or campy.


DATELINE:
Monday November 3rd
The announcement for this mini challenge will be posted in
Monday October 6th
(After that You have ONE MONTH to do the challenge.)





TYPES OF ENTRY:
You may do one of these types of entries:

TRIBUTE
Think of the Flying Car FX sequences from films like The Day After Tomorrow, Twister, Hancock or The Wizard of OZ.

FREEFORM ENTRY
The core requirement for this type of entry is to have fun.

VFX SHOT
This is your chance to test your compositing skills .You need to use a REAL background plate (clip or sequence).
But keep in mind the key thing that I expect to see in all entries is GOOD VISUAL EFFECTS..



CHALLENGE SPECIFIC RULES:

No work taken DIRECTLY from an existing tutorial. You may use an existing tutorial only for reference.
You may use a pre existing model, as long as you give credit to the creator. If you cant model, use simple shapes, since we are interested in the simulation. (But teams are encouraged, and if you are a modeler, you can make your model available)
Voting:
(We will select by an open vote )
You may vote for:


Best WIP THREAD
BEST Animation(If Any)
BEST COMP WORK (If Any)

And the big one of course



BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner
designed by me.
_______________________________________

GENERAL RULES:

The animation and visualizations must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.
You may use stock previously shot footage for background plates and VFX elements.
IF you use footage for a VFX sequence it must be raw NOT contain any Visual Effects.
WIP are encouraged if they are posted in ANOTHER thread. Please provide a link to them on this thread.
WIP thread should be posted on the FXWARS Forum forum and should follow
the following naming convention: FXWars! Flying Car MY NAME ENTRY TYPE (TRIBUTE, FREEFORM, VFXSHOT), (Note: Group entries are allowed)
It is Recommended that Final movies should be rendered at 320 x 240 or 640 x 480 in QuickTime* format (Sorenson Compression), but other resolutions and formats are allowed. * (The animation format is open for discussion.)
The animation should follow the following naming convention:
MYNAME_FXWARS(RESOLUTION).mov. And please add your name at the beginning and end of the animation, and if you can, also add a small non disruptive watermark during the animation.
If for some reason, you can't host movies, sequential images (Thumbnails size 160 x 120 ) are accepted.
You are STRONGLY encouraged to add your entry to You Tube. If interested, please contact the Roberto Ortiz.
Please add a brief text description about your piece.
The artist also has to post total length of time it took and program used.
Collaborative pieces are accepted and encouraged, but Teams entries must have a identifying banner and a name. Shot lists should be included with the entry.
Individuals participating in a team CAN have their own individual entries.
Post on this thread your link to your WIP thread and your FINAL piece.
You can add multiple entries, as long as they have different WIP threads.
Freelancers CAN participate in more than ONE entry
All Teams members & Freelancers will get screen credit for in the title cards for participation
Only participants who follow the rules and submit a final entry will be elegible for the voting process.
The moderators reserve the right to taken down any thread.
DIGITAL ASSETS:
Here are the footage models and stills I am making available for this challenge.
You may use your own models for the challenge,
but I am making some of my stills and elements e for those who wish to use them

Of course Participants may add their own elements.

THE CHECKOUT PROCESS
The process to check them out is simple.
YOU NEED TO FOLLOW THESE RULES IF YOU WANT THE PLATES:

Post your WIP entry, the type of entry you wish to do and art asset you wish to use, post your model requests on this thread and
on the first page of your WIP thread.

Note these models and clips are not being put on the public domain.
They were specifically created for this mini challenge.

COMPOSITE ELEMENTS (Voluntary)
I can provide high resolution clips and still for all participants.
Please request them via PM (You NEED to post a WIP thread before of course)

THE BACKGROUND PLATE LIBRARY
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_11-2.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/11-2.jpg)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_13-1.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/13-1.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_1-5.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/1-5.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_2-5.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/2-5.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_3-4.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/3-4.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_4-5.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/4-5.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_5-4.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/5-4.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_6-3.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/6-3.jpg)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/th_7-2.jpg (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/7-2.jpg)
THE CLIP LIBRARY
Send me a PM for more info
REFERENCE:

Fith Element (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhlD6q71YA)
Blade Runner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrOVLEUBgw)
Back To the future (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Rngy90Q14)
Serenity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiXYN07hb08)
Space Precint (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkW_k8FZMGY)
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd1TsNsB6ww)
Harry Potter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quM5--D-w2Q)
The Last Starfighter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpF6mWwlR0)
-R
ovspianist
09-26-2008, 02:09 AM
Would it be ok if i start working on this in 10 days?

because this is a busy week and i have no time doing this.
interested in it a lot.
ragupasta
09-26-2008, 12:24 PM
Would it be ok if i start working on this in 10 days?

because this is a busy week and i have no time doing this.
interested in it a lot.

The challenge is live, so its up to you when you make your start, you dont have to start it right now. Just try to make the finish date. :)
RayRay
09-26-2008, 02:53 PM
Have you had time to put the previews up on YouTube by chance? Not sure which clip to choose without motion. Looking forward to getting started!
RobertoOrtiz
09-27-2008, 07:24 AM
I am in Pitssburg right now filming some more plates (next in my list is Baltimore)

I will upload some plates as soon as I get home.
-R
Nyro
10-02-2008, 07:57 AM
The Hyperlink to Bladerunner's Spinner Wiki-Site is missing the final paranthese ")".

Oh and btw:
You may provide a heavily edited animation with all the trimmings (hell add live action if you want), as long a you provide another PLAIN animation of a side view of the working SIMULATION of multiple explosions in the planet surface.
Isn't that description better suited to the Planet Explosion FXWars Session?
FeD
10-02-2008, 08:22 AM
Hi, I'll be happy to enjoy this mini-challenge ! the concept is very nice.

but i've never realy followed the others FXwars, i'm not sure how to join it (and not so good in english^^), so we have one month to do it ? and I've to make a WIP ?

Is the scene limited to one shot ? or can I do 2 or 3 concecutive one ?
opentarget
10-02-2008, 08:46 AM
haha really cool project! if i have time for it ill enter, will be my first attempt at something like this.
SimonReeves
10-02-2008, 10:02 AM
You may provide a heavily edited animation with all the trimmings (hell add live action if you want), as long a you provide another PLAIN animation of a side view of the working SIMULATION of multiple explosions in the planet surface.

Is this from an old challenge, or am I confused :)

--
Ahhh someone else said it just before me there :)
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 01:20 PM
Is this from an old challenge, or am I confused :)

--
Ahhh someone else said it just before me there :)

Never post a challenge at 2:00 am...
FIXED.
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 01:26 PM
Hi, I'll be happy to enjoy this mini-challenge ! the concept is very nice.

but i've never realy followed the others FXwars, i'm not sure how to join it (and not so good in english^^), so we have one month to do it ? and I've to make a WIP ?

Is the scene limited to one shot ? or can I do 2 or 3 concecutive one ?

We had people in the past do mini movies in our challenge...

Check out this entry MasterZap did for our VOLCANO challenge..

CLIP1 (http://s20.photobucket.com/player.swf?refURL=/&file=http://vid20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/fxwars/Volcanp_masterzap_fxwars_720x4003.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1)
or this car crash Tyson Ibele did for us...

Clip2 (http://s20.photobucket.com/player.swf?refURL=/&file=http://vid20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/cgtalk/fxwars/ivan_crash-1.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1)
Oh BTW added NEW voting categories to the challenge.
Remoth
10-02-2008, 03:06 PM
I've only watched the latest of the FXWars, but I'll give this one a shot. I have lots of free time after work, so I should be able to get it done. You have to post a WIP thread in order to be fully registered for it, right?
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 03:08 PM
I've only watched the latest of the FXWars, but I'll give this one a shot. I have lots of free time after work, so I should be able to get it done. You have to post a WIP thread in order to be fully registered for it, right?
Yep...
Good luck.

-R
Glazy
10-02-2008, 05:02 PM
Gerry Anderson's SF show Space Precinct had a whole bunch of flying cars too, I used to like the Police Cruiser,s in that show.
http://www.tnthobbies.co.uk/FandCountDownModel6.JPG

Then there's always this classic http://i17.tinypic.com/6f9mzy8.jpg
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 05:15 PM
Gerry Anderson's SF show Space Precinct had a whole bunch of flying cars too, I used to like the Police Cruiser,s in that show.
http://www.tnthobbies.co.uk/FandCountDownModel6.JPG

Then there's always this classic http://i17.tinypic.com/6f9mzy8.jpg
Added to the list.

Also added Harry Potter & Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
Glazy
10-02-2008, 05:47 PM
Hey this is a CG forum and there's one car that should be on the list being it was early CG and all, Centauri's car from The Last Starfighter !
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Hey this is a CG forum and there's one car that should be on the list being it was early CG and all, Centauri's car from The Last Starfighter !
added to the list
QuantumPixel
10-02-2008, 06:45 PM
Hey wow cool. Funny I have been working on a project like this for some time now. Been building the environment in 3d though trying to do a photo real environment to go with the ship. tough to find the right background plate for what I want to do.
Trojan123
10-02-2008, 07:17 PM
VFX SHOT
This is your chance to test your compositing skills .You need to use a REAL background plate (clip or sequence).
But keep in mind the key thing that I expect to see in all entries is GOOD VISUAL EFFECTS..

-R

Can I map a background plate to a plane or sphere and still call it a background plate?
s2k
10-02-2008, 07:20 PM
Hey there, i am also very interested in entering this comp.! would be my first fxwar
I can't enter with a still-render? Just a movie or renders of the sequence are allowed?


thanks
bye

edit: ooops I think that "VFX" says it all :bowdown: sorry !
RobertoOrtiz
10-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Can I map a background plate to a plane or sphere and still call it a background plate?
Yep..
Any way you want...
alessio
10-03-2008, 10:51 AM
Hi There! Nice challenge ...and also my first one! I'm in!

Cheers

Alessio
Cyborgguineapig
10-03-2008, 04:56 PM
Damn this looks like fun. As far as interest goes, Damn this looks like fun. If only I actually ever participated :hmm:
Glazy
10-03-2008, 05:35 PM
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/427/2044/1600/dmc_comp.0.jpgOnly flying car I've made in the past is this one from the UK kids show Danger Mouse I've never really attempted to make characters otherwise It'd be cool to have a Danger Mouse and Penfold to see in this and animate them whizzing about !! :)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_jv-vx0HDjF0/R_6FbTvW01I/AAAAAAAACGk/77LDSYNIWzI/s1600-h/dmc_comp.jpg
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_jv-vx0HDjF0/R_6FbTvW01I/AAAAAAAACGk/77LDSYNIWzI/s1600-h/dmc_comp.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/427/2044/1600/dmc_comp.0.jpg)
padfoot7726
10-04-2008, 07:15 PM
This looks like fun, and like to work on it. One question. Does your entry have to have sound effects, because I'm not great with that.
ragupasta
10-04-2008, 08:19 PM
This looks like fun, and like to work on it. One question. Does your entry have to have sound effects, because I'm not great with that.

I believe Roberto is looking for Best Visual Effects so I would assume no :)
Glazy
10-04-2008, 08:26 PM
Does a Twin Pod Cloud Car count from The Empire Strikes Back after all it is a car and it does fly ?!
Debneyink
10-05-2008, 12:33 AM
and how about a flying motorbike??
RobertoOrtiz
10-05-2008, 03:56 AM
Does a Twin Pod Cloud Car count from The Empire Strikes Back after all it is a car and it does fly ?!

Well it is a speeder...So yes.
Debneyink
10-05-2008, 06:38 PM
sweet, I'm on it...
woadiestyol
10-06-2008, 12:49 AM
I just got put on my first real production while at school...but dammit, this sounds fun: I'm in! My first challenge :)
2xbo
10-06-2008, 10:54 AM
Im on board. I will try it.
herobix
10-06-2008, 10:55 AM
I am in :D

sounds like a really nice challange
Goksimaster
10-06-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm in :D

greate idea , bravo !!!
ChrisD01
10-07-2008, 03:42 AM
hello all,

cool idea, i try it

This is a long time that I did not participate in a contest:beer:
maxspider3000
10-07-2008, 02:29 PM
am live too :) ... good luck everyone
Csicso3d
10-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Hi there guys!
I'm done with my animation, don't have more time to work with this. It was reeeealy great, I enjoyed it a lot, it was great :) thanks for the possibility
Since october 6. I worked with this until october 23. usually 2-3 hours a day.

my wip thread: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=683068

it's 1:15 long, 32mb
better quality: http://3d.csicso.com/fxwars_csicso3d_640.mov
tha same in .zip: http://3d.csicso.com/fxwars_csicso3d_640.zip

and the youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkxLtZIo7iA (tooo bad quality)

hope you like it, and good luck to the others :)
chronic
11-16-2008, 07:05 PM
Final Entry
-----------------

Quicktime Download:

HIGH RES H264 (1280x600) 14mb (http://media.leocov.com/cgtalk/LeoCovarrubias_FXWARS%281280x600%29.mov)

MED RES H264 (896x420) 10mb (http://media.leocov.com/cgtalk/LeoCovarrubias_FXWARS%28896x420%29.mov)


wip thread: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=682816

worked for the whole month, a few hours a day

used Maya, Photoshop, Nuke

notes:
the girl has ncloth dynamics, maya fluids where used for the flames on the car, and particles for the dust. most of the 'look' was achieved in compositing - facilitated by rendering in multiple layers with passes. the background buildings and sky, the helipad, the girl, and the car are all separate layers. also each layer has different passes as necessary for it, such as motion vector, diffuse, specular, zdepth, etc.

length: 00:18

i really enjoyed this challenge, now lets have another!
ChrisD01
11-16-2008, 10:05 PM
Final entry

Quicktime: 720-405: 32Mo; 1min16s

ChrisD_FXWars_Flying-car.mov (http://www.chrisd-world.com/FXWars/ChrisD_FXWars_Flying-car.mov)

Thread WIP

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=682479&page=1 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=682479&page=1)

soft:

3DSmax, MentalRay, Photoshop, After-effect.

Work 1 month and two Week

comment:

I tried to make an animation a little more complete than just the car. that's why I imagined the robot to change the reservoir

thank you for this contest very interesting, and also to discuss with the participants.

good luck to everybody

ChrisD
DerrickG
11-16-2008, 10:10 PM
Final Entry:

Steam Flight
Length: 1:13mins
Software: 3DS Max, After Effects, Photoshop
Est. work time: since the beginning, 4hours somedays and weeks of nothing hmm... :lightbulb

Thanks to everyone who commented and watched this. Truly appreciate it. It was a great learning experience, and I'm glad I participated.
Good luck to all the other projects, looking forward to seeing them all! :)

WIP thread: http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=682353

Clip:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/fighthall/th_FXWars.jpg (http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/fighthall/?action=view&current=FXWars.flv)

Download 640x480 .mov version (sharper): 36mb .zip format (bandwidth is sad in SA)
http://fighthall.zoomcities.cc/DerrickGreyvensteyn_FXWARS(640x480).zip
maxspider3000
11-17-2008, 03:03 AM
My Final Entry:
--------------

Video Link :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYG84zPbvOk

Wip Thread :
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=681836

Programs used :
3Ds Max, VRay, Photoshop and AfterFX

Length : 00:23 min

Time : from 10-12 hours every week, with more work stress last few days

Description :
as an air car it's a kind that have more ability to be suitable on water environments ... it has a concept of a fish witch allow it too to get on to water ...

Although am not totally satisfied with the result, it was a greet experience for me ...
CBieberly
11-17-2008, 05:01 PM
Here it is, our final entry. We used Maya 2008, Photoshop and Nuke to composite our 35-45 layers (depending on the shot). We only finished 4 out of our 5 shots. Length is 50 seconds for the final (including intro and credits).

Thumbnail:
http://dbwstudios.com/fxwars/TeamVFXAssassins_FXWARS_FlyingCar-poster.jpg

LowRes .mov file (.photoJpg 960x400)

http://dbwstudios.com/fxwars/TeamVFXAssassins_FXWARS_FlyingCar(960x400).mov (http://dbwstudios.com/fxwars/TeamVFXAssassins_FXWARS_FlyingCar%28960x400%29.mov)

HighRes .movFile (1920x800 379.9MB)
Note: RightClick + SaveTargetAs)

http://dbwstudios.com/fxwars/TeamVFXAssassins_FXWARS_FlyingCar(1920x800).mov (http://dbwstudios.com/fxwars/TeamVFXAssassins_FXWARS_FlyingCar%281920x800%29.mov)

WIP Thread:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=682189

EDIT

For some reason the links were not working. It would only load the video halfway. I uploaded the low res over top of the old file and it seems to be working now. The high res is in the process of uploading and should be done shortly. In the mean time, I am posting a youtube link as a backup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRtF_kcEew
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