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Spin99
09-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Google released the Chrome Browser in beta format >> LINK (http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html) <<

Spin99
09-02-2008, 09:39 PM
First comment on the beta. The annoying one pixel gap to the desktop at the bottom.
My 32-bit machine running XP sometimes leaves a gap at the bottom of the browser instead of drawing the window bottom widget there.

Otherwise lightning fast and generally pretty impressive.

Venkman
09-02-2008, 09:46 PM
Yes, another browser to test for when writing CSS.

Thanks, Google! :curious:

ThomasMahler
09-02-2008, 09:48 PM
Honestly, I don't know if I'll ever be able to jump away from Firefox with all the extensions I use, but I tried Chrome and it's pretty darn slick. It's certainly a lot better than Internet Explorer and feels a bit smarter than Safari. But it's not revolution, which would be needed to take over the browser market.

sacslacker
09-02-2008, 09:52 PM
Yeah, it's not too bad. I'm glad they carped Firebug (in for of the javascript console) because I can't live without that. It's definitely fast and there are a lot of little features that make it nice. Incognito mode is quite nice too.

ThomasMahler
09-02-2008, 09:56 PM
Yeah, it's not too bad. I'm glad they carped Firebug (in for of the javascript console) because I can't live without that. It's definitely fast and there are a lot of little features that make it nice. Incognito mode is quite nice too.

What's that for, really? Porn at work? I'm just missing all my firefox extensions. Oh, the comment box I'm writing in here isn't being properly displayed either.

PaulAdams
09-02-2008, 10:03 PM
No middle mouse scroll is unforgivable right now.. hopefully they'll add it in though. Would like a smooth scroll option too. Other than that, I'd probably use it as my first choice.

DSedov
09-02-2008, 10:08 PM
Just installed this. First impression is - I really like it. It is fast, interface is very simple and having a searchbar togather with address bar is awesome!

rgwarren
09-02-2008, 10:08 PM
No middle mouse scroll is unforgivable right now..

Scrolls for me. Just scrolled down to read your post.

DSedov
09-02-2008, 10:12 PM
He probably ment that the scroll on middle-button press does not work. It's a feature in most browsers, when you click middle mouse button you can then scroll by moving the mouse.
And yes - the post editor is all weird. =( Guess some css issues - to bad

ThomasMahler
09-02-2008, 10:14 PM
In Firefox, I use Scrollbar Anywhere for that and set it to MMB - love that Acrobat Reader-like dragging with my tablet. MMB Scroll doesn't work at all, which sucks. I want iPhone like scrolling in my browser. With that nice little drag effect!

rgwarren
09-02-2008, 10:14 PM
You're right. You can scroll the mouse wheel but can't click the middle button and scroll using the mouse movement.

Szos
09-02-2008, 11:26 PM
I am willing to wait a bit before I bother installing and trying out Chrome, but I have to ask... WHY BOTHER?

Google is touting this browser to be more "media friendly", but how much more graphics/sound/video orientated can a browser be when it's the site ITSELF that determines that?

Also, for those that have actually tried Chrome, can you tell me what it's memory footprint is like? On the news they mentioned that Chrome loads up almost instantly - which is cool, but is that simply because it is already partially loaded into memory using that QuickLaunch or QuickStart technology which I hate so much... basically it sucks up memory ALL the time on the assumption that at some point during your day you will launch that particular app. So basically that tech slows down your entire computer all the time, so save you a second or two when an app initially loads up. :rolleyes:

Also, isn't Google a major financial supporter of FireFox? With Chrome out, wouldn't that mean that they won't support FF anymore? If so, that would truly suck since I really <3 FF.

Koogle
09-02-2008, 11:36 PM
I thought it was shit.. obviously aimed at noobs, no wonder I saw it on the news today... from company as big as Google with plenty of resources and thats what they come out with? pfff I don't even want to know how long they've spent working on that pet project.

Really the only good stuff was the developer firebug window and thats nothing special, although not being able to have it within the frame, splitscreen style damn thats shit... oh actually seems like that was all that was interesting. I suppose at least install was quick although a seperate setup exe to download the actual program is gay.. but being able to just use try the junky browser and uninstall it without restarting the pc all within 10mins of using it.. wow microsoft could learn something there.

no sidebars gadgets.. status bar? skinnable? total lack of any customization and user input controls.. missing mmb autoscroll... that's dire.. oh and a favourites button on the right side of the screen.. could someone remind those morrons at google which direction menus pullout in. tbh the whole gui looked like an alpha version of Maxthon2, 3years ago. Only Google efforts just seemed have missed out on all the extra power features, i'm sure they'll get it copied eventually. Or perhaps they're hoping all those open source developers will do the work for them.

grrinc
09-02-2008, 11:39 PM
Google already has form with data harvesting. Am I going to trust them with my browsing? Nope.

cresshead
09-02-2008, 11:40 PM
i like it!

okay it's beta but i'll give it a go! :thumbsup:

love the drag move tabs and the delete to left or right tabs..plus the tear off tabs to a new window...

also the skinny look...nice and when you have a ton of tabs open you can still get to the x to close any particular tab...

also like the idea of a tab crashing rather than the browser wholesale..looking in task manager i think each tab maybe a separate process...good idea i think.

incognito windows are a good idea too

so far as a non add on firefox user...i'll move to google chrome and see if i stay with it as default browser...

the idea of the search in the address bar is cool too.

Stinkfist
09-02-2008, 11:49 PM
Also, for those that have actually tried Chrome, can you tell me what it's memory footprint is like?

Its roughly the same as Firefox, around 100mb when you have 2-3 tabs open.

visionmaster2
09-02-2008, 11:50 PM
ThomasMahlerI want iPhone like scrolling in my browser. With that nice little drag effect!

here it is, with all the code ! :)

http://webapp.net.free.fr/Demo/Index.html

code : http://webapp.net.free.fr/Doc/TOC.html

Gentle Fury
09-03-2008, 12:03 AM
Just installed this. First impression is - I really like it. It is fast, interface is very simple and having a searchbar togather with address bar is awesome!

Actually firefox's address bar has doubled as a google search bar for a while now. It is defaulted to feeling lucky....which works great.....but you can go into the hidden prefs and change that if you want.

I will be trying this when I get home tho....looks cool!

show
09-03-2008, 12:04 AM
i really like it, its not a great step from using firefox but i do find some things run faster, more intuitively and i generally like the UI a lot.
One of my favourite features is that using the star icon to favourite whats in your address bar creates a favicon on your bookmarks toolbar and you are prompted to name it.
That's a whole lot better than what the other browsers are doing

isxaari
09-03-2008, 12:26 AM
Think twice

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030522-2.html

Koogle
09-03-2008, 12:33 AM
i like it!

okay it's beta but i'll give it a go! :thumbsup:

love the drag move tabs and the delete to left or right tabs..plus the tear off tabs to a new window...

also the skinny look...nice and when you have a ton of tabs open you can still get to the x to close any particular tab...

also like the idea of a tab crashing rather than the browser wholesale..looking in task manager i think each tab maybe a separate process...good idea i think.

incognito windows are a good idea too

so far as a non add on firefox user...i'll move to google chrome and see if i stay with it as default browser...

the idea of the search in the address bar is cool too.

:curious: damn people really don't look around for better browsers much.. along comes google and suddenly a bit of this stuff is new, most of its been around for YEARS and done better!.. and you've been using plain vanilla firefox without any addons.. :eek:

visionmaster2
09-03-2008, 12:40 AM
waoouu ! "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

with google search, they now from where we came, what we are looking for and where we go.
with gmail they read all our mails.
with this browser, they know everithing we are working on the net.
and if i understand, all what we submiting, posting are free for google to use...

imagine AAT or any phone company recording all your conversations,sms,photos, tracking all your mouvements with gps... in best case to sell banners...and without any legal right to do it.

erilaz
09-03-2008, 02:21 AM
waoouu ! "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

with google search, they now from where we came, what we are looking for and where we go.
with gmail they read all our mails.
with this browser, they know everithing we are working on the net.
and if i understand, all what we submiting, posting are free for google to use...

imagine AAT or any phone company recording all your conversations,sms,photos, tracking all your mouvements with gps... in best case to sell banners...and without any legal right to do it.

Actually, that's just ass-covering on google's part. It's pretty standard.

You're posting and submitting stuff through their services, which they have to display via their services (ie the browser, or other google apps). An upstart with the right legal brain could easily sue Google for doing this as it is "reproducing" the copyright material. The Terms of Service are merely to protect google from frivolous lawsuits.

Does this mean they could take advantage of such an agreement? Absolutely. But honestly, would it make any sense for them to do that given the trust they want to instill in their customers? This is Google we're talking about. They're not stupid.

grantmoore3d
09-03-2008, 02:27 AM
with google search, they now from where we came, what we are looking for and where we go.
with gmail they read all our mails.
with this browser, they know everithing we are working on the net.
and if i understand, all what we submiting, posting are free for google to use...

I'll be honest, if they want to track all the stupid shit I say on the internet, and make a list of everything I go to, that's fine with me. I know they're just using it to improve search technologies... unless they have an evil agenda, ie: world domination!!

However, anyone dealing with any sort of confidential information should definitely not use it!

Gentle Fury
09-03-2008, 02:47 AM
waoouu ! "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."

with google search, they now from where we came, what we are looking for and where we go.
with gmail they read all our mails.
with this browser, they know everithing we are working on the net.
and if i understand, all what we submiting, posting are free for google to use...

imagine AAT or any phone company recording all your conversations,sms,photos, tracking all your mouvements with gps... in best case to sell banners...and without any legal right to do it.


hmmm, well, it is a free service...so it only makes sense that anything you submit to youtube or picasa free service is theirs to use for promotions. If you really care about what you stream online then why not pay the $5 a month to start a website and host your own stuff.

As far as watching what you are browsing....well, that is how they make money! They are able to figure out how to advertise to you without you getting pissed. Firefox is already doing it for google....now they dont have to pay someone else. They are reading your email?? Come on grow up....they are reading your email as much as ANY other service is reading your email.....they use word recognition for ads.....but they aren't sitting there reading your email....your email is simply triggering ad actions. BTW....what are you doing that you would even give a crap if anyone read your email?? I save my pw on my comp at home....I dont care if anyone looks.....

And as far as your whole what if ATT recorded your phone conversations or SMS.....well they can....at least in the US....the US gov is already under scrutiny for strong arming phone companies to do illegal wire taps......and past SMS messages have actually been used in court cases, since they stay on the server for a while.

Trust me....google is after 1 thing.....making money by creating applications people want to use and offering them for "free"......exploiting their customer base would not be good for the cause.....it is the gov you need to worry about.

richcz3
09-03-2008, 02:48 AM
...........imagine AAT or any phone company recording all your conversations,sms,photos, tracking all your mouvements with gps... in best case to sell banners...and without any legal right to do it.I am not the paranoid type but I do see the potential ramifications of signing away (agreeing to) so much control. Google has shown support for the Orpans Work Act (http://quinncreative.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/copyright-orphan-works-act-update/) 2008 which looks to undermine current copyright. I think I'll stick with Firefox in the meantime.

cheebamonkey
09-03-2008, 03:20 AM
I am not the paranoid type but I do see the potential ramifications of signing away (agreeing to) so much control. Google has shown support for the Orpans Work Act (http://quinncreative.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/copyright-orphan-works-act-update/) 2008 which looks to undermine current copyright. I think I'll stick with Firefox in the meantime.


yup... Google is there to amass all of your browsing information.. oooo and a browser built specifically to help boost revenue for their ads. No thanks... they're not our friends like people think. IE 8 and Firefox works for me.

visionmaster2
09-03-2008, 04:24 AM
posted by Gentle Fury BTW....what are you doing that you would even give a crap if anyone read your email?? I save my pw on my comp at home....I dont care if anyone looks.....

in fact i do and think the same as you... i dont care that a bot read my mail, that he track me with google map on my iphone, or that i read yesterday an article about GMO, and write an article about the Tibet etc....

we have the chance to live in a free country..and usa and france are still democraty...
and i am sure, like you, that no gouverments in the world will use the infos collected by google...never :)

heavyness
09-03-2008, 06:08 AM
in other google news, the Picasa 3 beta (http://picasa.google.com/) is out with some new features (http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=93773). and Google Web Albums now has 'Name Tags (http://picasa.google.com/intl/en_us/features-nametags.html)'...

Name tags help you automatically organize and share your photos based on who's in them.

...that's right, you supply the name, google learns the face and finds more pictures of that person. not only are they watching what you read online, they know what you look like.

R10k
09-03-2008, 06:19 AM
...not only are they watching what you read online, they know what you look like.

*screams*

Hopefully my face doesn't break their software.

Spin99
09-03-2008, 07:05 AM
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7371/chrampsud3.png

Do you have this problem as well? Might have to zoom in to see it.
Yes I know it's a beta. Yes I haven't rebooted yet.
But I don't think I can handle it much longer (Alt+F4)

PS-- Yes I shaved before posting this.

PPS-- I read somewhere Chrome is going to affect Mozilla. Personally think it'll target Internet Explorer directly. Lightweight as well no frills no plugins nada. I think ie will be catching dust on my machine for a long time if Google fix above problem

salmonmoose
09-03-2008, 08:04 AM
in other google news, the Picasa 3 beta (http://picasa.google.com/) is out with some new features (http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=93773). and Google Web Albums now has 'Name Tags (http://picasa.google.com/intl/en_us/features-nametags.html)'...



...that's right, you supply the name, google learns the face and finds more pictures of that person. not only are they watching what you read online, they know what you look like.

Yeah - I just name-tagged my photo album this morning - it's seriously creepy - and seriously cool.

As for Chrome, I love it - and as soon as I can get my hot little hands on a linux version (or get the Windows version running in wine) I'm making the switch. MUCH faster, better suited to AJAX applications, inbuilt gears/desktop support.

No invisible pixel line of doom for me either - but I AM running it through a seamless VM.

My only major problem is that it doesn't use Google Bookmarks :(

Per-Anders
09-03-2008, 08:39 AM
Well if anyone wants, I've modified the theme to make a black/neutral theme, just install in your C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\0.2.149.27\Themes\ folder

salmonmoose
09-03-2008, 08:57 AM
Well if anyone wants, I've modified the theme to make a black/neutral theme, just install in your C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\0.2.149.27\Themes\ folder

http://digg.com/design/Chrome_Dark_A_custom_Google_Chrome_theme

http://chromespot.com/index.php/topic,12.0.html

;)

DDS
09-03-2008, 08:58 AM
I liked the comic style explanation of how Chrome works (here (http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYC&printsec=frontcover#PPA3,M1))

Anyways, Mozilla guys say they're ok with Google taking out their support for Firefox in 2011. It's pretty obvious they would care but at least Microsoft got a really strong company to compete with for Internet custody.

Pyke
09-03-2008, 09:23 AM
Im wondering if this is google first step into the OS market? It seems the obvious direction for google to move to...

T4D
09-03-2008, 09:39 AM
Im wondering if this is google first step into the OS market? It seems the obvious direction for google to move to...

yeah was thinking the same thing,. Minor software before but this is a big step into the open market for google

Google Linux is the Next one I feel :buttrock:

salmonmoose
09-03-2008, 10:07 AM
Im wondering if this is google first step into the OS market? It seems the obvious direction for google to move to...

No. This is the first step to making the OS irrelevant.

If everyone has a fast, compliant browser that can spawn off applications for the web, that works exactly the same on any OS, it doesn't matter if you run Windows, OSX, Linux or Workbench - you just need to be able to run that browser.

Internet based software is great for applications that don't require bunches of CPU or GPU time. All the data is stored remotely, which helps backups, and you never have to worry about "patches" every time a user connects, they have the latest version.

It's hard to see where Google are going exactly - perhaps they will to implement a XUL type layer that can handle more complicated things (like paint applications or 3D applications - and run libraries rather than javascript) - it's certainly the path I'd be heading down - in a way it's kind of what .NET is trying to do, but in a transparent and open way.

Let the OS worry about all the hardware, and present a clean API to the developer. It's not as fast as native code, but it's portable.

ThomasMahler
09-03-2008, 10:24 AM
I'd think that they'd definitely check out newer Linux distributions and will probably try to do their own thing there. Why would they leave that market to Microsoft? They have enough resources to delve into it. And a free, nicely designed and streamlined Google OS based on one of the newer Linux distros could be great.

cresshead
09-03-2008, 11:33 AM
yeah was thinking the same thing,. Minor software before but this is a big step into the open market for google

Google Linux is the Next one I feel :buttrock:

nice idea but the windows apps share is HUGE when compared to osx or linux.

alot has to change in apps available on linux first...like games, photoshop etc.

ThomasMahler
09-03-2008, 12:36 PM
alot has to change in apps available on linux first...like games, photoshop etc.

http://apcmag.com/google_behind_photoshops_new_linux_compatibility.htm

They covered it all.

Nice as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r88Mb_R5XpY

L33tace
09-03-2008, 12:58 PM
When I go to select options, it crashed. I went to report a bug it crashed. :rolleyes:
Win XP64.

Szos
09-03-2008, 01:37 PM
Im wondering if this is google first step into the OS market? It seems the obvious direction for google to move to...

Who needs an OS when you can have access to EVERYTHING in one window? The OS will become just another layer of your PC system with a browser like Chrome being the final GUI that you see and interact with. Whatever OS you use will be like what BIOS your PC has now, it will be meaningless and with most people they will have no idea what it even is.

Think about it, Google now can have you do all your work - wordprocessing, spreadsheet, web surfing, online-storage, email all from one window that you could essentially access from any PC, any Mac, and almost any internet-enabled device - from phones to game consoles.

It's cool - and scary - at the same time.

wurp
09-03-2008, 01:41 PM
this indeed seems to be the way google is going with their browser, it's competing with MS Office rather than firefox and internet explorer, what I don't like much about this whole centralised system is if your account gets hacked they will have access to everything, for things like this to work we will need more than just a login and password to access the files, something similar to the security we have in most internet banks would be the way to go.

Who needs an OS when you can have access to EVERYTHING in one window? The OS will become just another layer of your PC system with a browser like Chrome being the final GUI that you see and interact with. Whatever OS you use will be like what BIOS your PC has now, it will be meaningless and with most people they will have no idea what it even is.

Think about it, Google now can have you do all your work - wordprocessing, spreadsheet, web surfing, online-storage, email all from one window that you could essentially access from any PC, any Mac, and almost any internet-enabled device - from phones to game consoles.

It's cool - and scary - at the same time.

Samo
09-03-2008, 03:06 PM
A very innocent act with very evil implications.

The have the search engine, the advertising engine, and now a browser engine, basic principles for something very evil.

cresshead
09-03-2008, 03:09 PM
..it's a web browser..not a atom bomb!

Ran13
09-03-2008, 03:22 PM
..it's a web browser..not a atom bomb!

pffffft!!
Atom bombs are so....
20th century.

:twisted:

Samo
09-03-2008, 03:35 PM
..it's a web browser..not a atom bomb!

Sorry I forgot to add smileys to mi post. :p

mustique
09-03-2008, 04:02 PM
There's a linux distro out there based on ubuntu and called "GOS" for netbooks.
it's not officially owned by google but looks very very googlish!

cresshead
09-03-2008, 05:26 PM
pffffft!!
Atom bombs are so....
20th century.

:twisted:

well i am a product of 1962!...so 20th century works for me!
...booom!

Spin99
09-03-2008, 05:54 PM
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7371/chrampsud3.png

Ok I know you get it as well :buttrock:
Try dragging your Windows taskbar to the top edge of the screen.

There you go!
And mine has stayed there for a few years now and it's not leaving.
Easy to reproduce enough?

Artbot
09-03-2008, 06:00 PM
Loaded it yesterday and I really like it so far - very fast, and much better bookmarking features than FF/IE.

Like others, I do miss the add-on tools in FF. Also miss the config control like in "about: config" in FF. I have annoying GIF anims turned off (some people here have incredibly annoying animated avatars).

Anyone know if there are similar tools/hacks for Chrome?

Venkman
09-03-2008, 07:00 PM
So am I going to start to see "Last edited by Google; Today at 10:11 AM." at the bottom of the posts by all you chrome users? ;)

richcz3
09-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Alexander MacGilivray of Google stated that “Google strongly believes that these orphan works are both worthwhile, useful, and extremely valuable” ( p.119). Also, “we expect that [Google’s] use of these orphan works will likely be in the 1 million works range...(p.166, italics added).” Since Google has already demonstrated their disregard for copyright by embarking on the Google Book Search project, there’s no reason to believe that they, or similar firms, will not take advantage of the Orphan Works amendment to harvest images wherever artists and photographers can be characterized as “difficult or impossible to locate.”
At the Orphan Works roundtables, 7/26/05 - LINK (http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=00245)

That was their take in 2005 and Googles stance on the orphaned works legislation hasn't changed in any news I've read. By the nature of the agreements you open yourself to in using Chrome, its just another potential content spigot you're opening. An enabler to disregard copyright on another level. I simply feel no compulsion to have my PC's library content leak like a sieve because I use their Internet Browser.

pomru
09-03-2008, 07:56 PM
I liked the comic style explanation of how Chrome works (here (http://books.google.com/books?id=8UsqHohwwVYC&printsec=frontcover#PPA3,M1))
omg, a new Scott McCloud comic! :love: It's a brilliantly executed explanation; I actually felt like I understood all the technical bits about Chrome without being overwhelmed. Although if you quizzed me on the names of Google staff that appeared in the comic, I'll fail because I'm bad with names... ^_^;

Gentle Fury
09-03-2008, 08:20 PM
posted by Gentle Fury

in fact i do and think the same as you... i dont care that a bot read my mail, that he track me with google map on my iphone, or that i read yesterday an article about GMO, and write an article about the Tibet etc....

we have the chance to live in a free country..and usa and france are still democraty...
and i am sure, like you, that no gouverments in the world will use the infos collected by google...never :)

Cuz the gov would really care about anyones blog.......or what you read.....hell the internet is a totally public forum! If you write an article you are either going to do it anonymously (who puts their actual name when they sign up for services..such as google?) or put your name on it....if you want true anonymity go to a starbucks to send your email.....or just realize you aren't important enough that anyone would ever care about what you read or write....at least not in the paranoid sense you are talking about.

Gentle Fury
09-03-2008, 08:22 PM
A very innocent act with very evil implications.

The have the search engine, the advertising engine, and now a browser engine, basic principles for something very evil.

Or very profitable?

Apoclypse
09-03-2008, 09:09 PM
I'd think that they'd definitely check out newer Linux distributions and will probably try to do their own thing there. Why would they leave that market to Microsoft? They have enough resources to delve into it. And a free, nicely designed and streamlined Google OS based on one of the newer Linux distros could be great.


Well they've been eyeing Ubuntu for some time. I wouldn't be surprised if Google hired canonical to make their os, possibly even acquire the company.

visionmaster2
09-03-2008, 09:34 PM
Gentle Furyat least not in the paranoid sense you are talking about.

i think you missed my point of view (for sure its my bad english ).
to make simple. imagine that in 10 or 30 years your country have the sames rules than in china by exemple. what is pananoia for you, future for me, is actualy the present for 1/5 of the population .

Per-Anders
09-04-2008, 12:11 AM
http://digg.com/design/Chrome_Dark_A_custom_Google_Chrome_theme

http://chromespot.com/index.php/topic,12.0.html

;)

Already seen em, problem is they suck :D

Gentle Fury
09-04-2008, 12:16 AM
Gentle Fury

i think you missed my point of view (for sure its my bad english ).
to make simple. imagine that in 10 or 30 years your country have the sames rules than in china by exemple. what is pananoia for you, future for me, is actualy the present for 1/5 of the population .

I fully understand and am against public spying....but I don't see google being the one to fear.....they make their profit by giving something for free.....if you choose not to use it you just dont use it......you are in no way being forced to use the service.

Doug816
09-04-2008, 12:58 AM
along comes google and suddenly a bit of this stuff is new, most of its been around for YEARS and done better!..

Kinda like Apple with... anything.

erilaz
09-04-2008, 02:14 AM
A very innocent act with very evil implications.

The have the search engine, the advertising engine, and now a browser engine, basic principles for something very evil.

Have you not seen Google's philosophy (http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html)? You might want to check out point 6.

Anyhoo, apparently Google are in the works to change the wording of the terms of service so people stop freaking out so much about nothing.

xsitar
09-04-2008, 02:24 AM
Chrome is based on Apple's Safari WebKit so no need for me to switch unless i like Google's monitoring of my every click on the net.

lowkey
09-04-2008, 07:01 AM
I think it's a great beta! Superb speed!! Looking forward to future releases. :D

R10k
09-04-2008, 07:29 AM
If you like speed, use Opera. Chrome's not bad... but Opera's still the speed king ;)

lowkey
09-04-2008, 07:38 AM
Not true! I'm also an Opera user, but Chrome is a lot faster most of the time - especially on JavaScript intensive sites. Anyway, it's still far from being as comfortable as any of the other browsers out there. But then again it's just a beta. ;)

R10k
09-04-2008, 08:57 AM
Considering it's a beta it's great, but the speed at which Opera throws pages and tabs around (and generally feels really light) I'd rate Chrome as slower. However, everyone knows Javascript is like Kryptonite to Opera, so... you take the good with the bad ;)

iainbanks
09-04-2008, 10:33 AM
Kinda like Apple with... anything.

My thoughts exactly

grrinc
09-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Have you not seen Google's philosophy (http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html)? You might want to check out point 6.

Anyhoo, apparently Google are in the works to change the wording of the terms of service so people stop freaking out so much about nothing.

Ah well if Google say they are nice then they must be nice then. It fact I might create a web page telling everyone how nice I am too. :)

pnoland
09-04-2008, 03:44 PM
If you like speed, use Opera. Chrome's not bad... but Opera's still the speed king ;)

After I built this new system last week I noticed Opera was taking longer to load sites and images, I thought it was my internet connection for a while but after testing (still using) Chrome I figured out it was something with Opera...I'm not sure what but it was much slower then it should have been.

cheebamonkey
09-04-2008, 05:27 PM
Kinda like Apple with... anything.


heh you mean the entertainment company?

brendii
09-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Great potential being just a beta. We'll see!

BitsAndBytes
09-04-2008, 07:10 PM
tried it and kind of liked it. sure, rough around the edges but that can be fixed. also it's all open source so even if this particular browser doesn't work for you, alot of the underlying technology (particularly the new javascript vm) might pop up and enhance your browser of choice. at the very least, it will help put pressure on the rest of the browser market which means better products for us end users no matter our preference. Firefox remains my browser of choice for reasons of practicality (I've never had any brand loyalty), should Chrome end up offering the same functionality but with better performance then I would switch in a heartbeat.

omega3d
09-04-2008, 07:52 PM
I really like this browser.. Using it right now. A little buggy in some places, but it has some great simplistic functionality additions that firefox would have come out with eventually, but I am excited to see where google goes with this browser. Its definatley going to become a major role play in their plan to conquer the world.

Leionaaad
09-04-2008, 08:57 PM
with google search, they now from where we came, what we are looking for and where we go.
with gmail they read all our mails.
with this browser, they know everithing we are working on the net.
and if i understand, all what we submiting, posting are free for google to use...


Ok...so imagine at one point in the future will be 20.000.000 users of google chrome. Each user will store like 200 mails and about 500 pictures on picasa. Will have probably a 1000 posts on several forums... Now do the math...does it worth tracking everybody...Even if they do, what can they do with all that data? How will they sort it and store it? WHY would they do that? It isn't really profitable to keep all that running.

True, I could have read the end user agreement bla bla. They have a catch there....So I will wait a while to say my opinion abut the browser...Up til now I like the UI, but is still buggy at displaying some pages.

Doug816
09-04-2008, 09:13 PM
heh you mean the entertainment company?

Sure because no one has ever done mp3 players, video players or downloadable content before. (I'm not even going to do the mac/pc angle)

Doug816
09-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Ok...so imagine at one point in the future will be 20.000.000 users of google chrome. Each user will store like 200 mails and about 500 pictures on picasa. Will have probably a 1000 posts on several forums... Now do the math...does it worth tracking everybody...

Why do you assume that they will save everything instead of mining it for something they could use for marketing?

bleumoon
09-05-2008, 03:55 AM
So far I quite like Chrome. It's still a little rough around the edges but I think it has potential.

However, I think Anton really hit the nail on the head. Honestly, I don’t think Google has any aspirations on dominating the browser market. Their goal is to improve overall WebApp stability and performance. I think the real innovations here are the V8 JavaScript engine, WebKit integration, and isolated tabbed processes.

They made this project open source not so much to have people migrate over to Chrome, but in hopes that every browser out there, including IE, will eventually adopt their underlying browser technology.

Why would they do that? Well, by making WebApps faster, safer, and easier to use they are hoping to promote the use of online products like Google Docs. I might be wrong with this assumption, but with the release of Chrome I think Google is more trying to take on the Microsoft Office suite rather than IE and other browsers.

rock
09-05-2008, 04:33 AM
Google Chrome browser is derived from a minimalist design. When you browse with it, you only see the true core of the web page content. Even the Google sign is barely seen in the top right corner. In Internet Explorer 8, there's so much noise in the buttons, the menus are rearranged uncomfortably and not even consistent with other Microsoft products, too much Microsoft noise.

mks43094
09-05-2008, 02:48 PM
i understand it's still in beta, so it's going to have functionality quirks, but i didn't see any reason to switch from FF just yet.:hmm:

Gentle Fury
09-06-2008, 05:17 AM
Been using chrome for about a week now, and man, it is fast! Loving it. Makes firefox feel really really slow.

bleumoon
09-06-2008, 06:43 AM
After using Chrome for a couple of days now I have to say that I'm impressed on just how fast it renders pages. It's incredible how it handles JavaScript. The separate tabbed processes has come in handy a few times. However, for me personally, there are just a few things it lacks that is keeping me from switching over from firefox.


does not recognize RSS feeds
no plug-in support
doesn't recognize the MMB
can't run Java
it crashes adobe acrobat which ironically makes it impossible for me to print anything out of Google Docs (this may be a localized problem on my end though)


With everything said I think it's quite remarkable that they have created an almost fully functional browser on their first beta. I'm sure that they'll eventually get everything running smoothly and at which point I'll be more than happy to switch. At the very least, I hope this will spur innovation to create a better internet experience for everyone no matter what browser they use. Indeed I'm quite happy, and I'm very interested to see where things go from here.

Spin99
09-06-2008, 05:24 PM
Must say also moving over to Chrome for it's cutting edge performance.
Of course FF is there for assisted downloading, ripping, translations etc etc
But incredible user friendliness no pet peeves really.

How about an option to clear private data on exit?

And I'm saying this about a browser I maximise by sizing the window by hand to cover the whole desktop plus leave one pixel on top for the hidden taskbar to pop lol
So everytime I open a new window I "maximise" it :p

Gentle Fury
09-06-2008, 06:27 PM
After using Chrome for a couple of days now I have to say that I'm impressed on just how fast it renders pages. It's incredible how it handles JavaScript. The separate tabbed processes has come in handy a few times. However, for me personally, there are just a few things it lacks that is keeping me from switching over from firefox.


does not recognize RSS feeds
no plug-in support
doesn't recognize the MMB
can't run Java
it crashes adobe acrobat which ironically makes it impossible for me to print anything out of Google Docs (this may be a localized problem on my end though)


With everything said I think it's quite remarkable that they have created an almost fully functional browser on their first beta. I'm sure that they'll eventually get everything running smoothly and at which point I'll be more than happy to switch. At the very least, I hope this will spur innovation to create a better internet experience for everyone no matter what browser they use. Indeed I'm quite happy, and I'm very interested to see where things go from here.

Why are you using Adobe Acrobat? The worst PDF app ever....unstable, and slow.

http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Been using that for years...it is fast and doesnt make pdf's a nightmare to view.

Als
09-07-2008, 02:35 PM
Firefox is so good that it does more then I even thought is possible.
I do not understand why they did not put their effort in making firefox better, but instead started new browser altogether?
If Chrome makes it big, it will surely be death to Firefox.
If there were no firefox, I would still browse with IE 6, and everyday adware/spyware...
So I will stick with Firefox, where my loyalty lies...
And just to add:
http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2008/09/all_your_content_are_belong_to.php

Thanks


Al

RavikantCG
09-07-2008, 08:20 PM
It feels really very light... and good!
But I am Opera User, very pleased with it's customization.

I was using Firefox for Emails, coz Opera is not good with it.
I use Opera for Browsing, specially forums.
coz, I can close opera after opening (any number of tabs) something for later reading, when I start it again, it's all (tabs) right there.

So, now I replace my Firefox with Chrome for Emails.
It is much BETTER, LIGHT and FAST. :thumbsup:

by the way, any Opera User here?

Sandr0
09-07-2008, 09:17 PM
Cool piece that chrome is.. Been using for a couple of days now almost exclusively. Switched from Opera..

Only thing I miss is scrolling with middle-mouse-button pressed and proper download manager. :arteest:

bleumoon
09-07-2008, 09:41 PM
I use Opera for Browsing, specially forums.
coz, I can close opera after opening (any number of tabs) something for later reading, when I start it again, it's all (tabs) right there.


You can do this with Chrome too. Under Options -> Basics select "restore the pages that were open last" under On startup:

grrinc
09-07-2008, 10:57 PM
by the way, any Opera User here?

Me. I love it. I gave FF a trial to see what all the fuss is about, but for nippy browsing, Opera rules. I'll give Chrome a spin when I fancy a change.

heavyness
09-08-2008, 04:15 AM
finally gave Chrome a whirl...

nothing special for me. i like the minimal UI, but with an add-on for firefox, i can almost get that [plus, i use winamp and i minimize it up there, so that would block my tabs]. what new features Chrome introduces, i'm sure someone will make an add-on for Firefox to mimic it.

but the add-ons in Firefox are what keeping me from switching. i like Chrome [better then IE] but not enough to make me switch.

JDex
09-08-2008, 04:18 AM
I'm mostly pleased that it's open source. I haven't been able to find the license or the code yet... but it's always terrific to be able to peak under the hood, see how monster devs (such as google's team) are approaching problems and maybe get some inspiration.

FF works for me, but hey... competition breeds innovation. Just hope they maintain W3C standards for the long haul.

EDIT: BSD License... perfect. TY Big Brother.

heavyness
09-08-2008, 09:21 PM
here are some links that will make Firefox work and look more like Chrome...

http://lifehacker.com/5046737/chromifox-makes-firefox-look-like-google-chrome

http://lifehacker.com/5044518/enable-chromes-best-features-in-firefox

Spin99
09-09-2008, 11:30 AM
New update. Same 1 pixel gap problem when maximised.
I wonder what GUI toolkit they're using? Cause it really spoils the experience..

VirtualFM
09-10-2008, 03:00 PM
I was using Firefox for Emails, coz Opera is not good with it.
I use Opera for Browsing, specially forums.
coz, I can close opera after opening (any number of tabs) something for later reading, when I start it again, it's all (tabs) right there.

So, now I replace my Firefox with Chrome for Emails.
It is much BETTER, LIGHT and FAST. :thumbsup:

by the way, any Opera User here?

Opera user here, for years in a row. I gave Firefox several tries in several versions and... I really don't understand why everybody uses it... it must be because they never tried Opera before! I don't deny that FF is awesome... but every time I try Firefos the following happens:

1-I start use it
2-I miss a feature
3-Go searching for plugins
4-Install plugin
5-Goto 1

This is a process that usually takes 2 weeks of usage, of painstakingly searching for and installing plugins. After this time, I finally have all the functionality...
... of Opera...
... in a fresh install!

It's just that in Firefox there are 12 different plugins for every feature of Opera, but in Opera those features work well in the first place.

As for Chrome, installed it, tried it and loved 2 things: the simplicity of the interface (and the dragging of tabs around, creating other windows) and the fact that each process is separated... because I usually have between 20 and 100 tabs open at any given time... and it is a certainty that there will be problems of memory/flash/javascript somewhere, and it's a drag to have to close Opera and reopen it, loading aaaaaaallll those tabs again! So having each process in each tab is really awesome.

I still don't use it everyday because I miss several stuff, like mouse gestures or CTRL+TAB to choose next tab (instead of switching instantaneously)

EDIT: Forgot to say that I switched from Thunderbird and use Opera for email for the last 3 years and there is no going back. Opera's Email is awesome, and stores all the messages in a big database, which means that "filters" work as database searches, like in Google Mail, so I can have the same message in "CloseFriends" and "3DAwesomeWork" if I want to. And it automatically detects mailing lists, automatically has filters for messages with different types of attachments, has feeds and news all in thee same interface, can use directly in the email the very useful notes I save all over from web, and much more. Opera is awesome.

marinox
09-11-2008, 10:07 AM
Cuz the gov would really care about anyones blog.......or what you read.....hell the internet is a totally public forum! If you write an article you are either going to do it anonymously (who puts their actual name when they sign up for services..such as google?) or put your name on it....if you want true anonymity go to a starbucks to send your email.....or just realize you aren't important enough that anyone would ever care about what you read or write....at least not in the paranoid sense you are talking about.

Yeap... up to the point when one of those criminal organizations called governments decide that you are a nuisance.

grrinc
09-11-2008, 05:10 PM
I've just remembered the reason I finally gave up on Firefox. On a number of web sites, I couldnt go 'back' to the site before - I was trapped on it unless I opened up a new tab and started again. Now some one explained tome how to get over this, but I just went back to Opera and had done with it. If I remember rightly, Opera had a smirk on its face when I sheepishly fired her up again.

Oh, and also, Chrome is rather good.

Doug816
09-11-2008, 06:17 PM
The number 1 reason why I'm hating it right now.

When you uninstall chrome it leaves the googleupdate.exe still on your machine and running for no reason. Sounds like spyware.

danlefeb
09-11-2008, 06:20 PM
The number 1 reason why I'm hating it right now.

When you uninstall chrome it leaves the googleupdate.exe still on your machine and running for no reason. Sounds like spyware.

Quoted for agreement.

heavyness
09-11-2008, 06:50 PM
The number 1 reason why I'm hating it right now.

When you uninstall chrome it leaves the googleupdate.exe still on your machine and running for no reason. Sounds like spyware.

that kept trying to access the internet on my machine every 10 minutes... while i like auto updates, PLEASE let me choose how often it checks. once a day works for me.

samartin
09-11-2008, 07:43 PM
The number 1 reason why I'm hating it right now.

When you uninstall chrome it leaves the googleupdate.exe still on your machine and running for no reason. Sounds like spyware.

Hmmm I've just checked my processes and I don't see googleupdate in my list, I installed it a few days ago so maybe you need to reboot!?

I don't really like Chrome, some of it is nice but it just DOESN'T work with XP64, click options and it never failed to crash!!! Think it lasted about 5 mins on my machine!

a-vector
09-12-2008, 07:52 AM
Hi,

Some interesting points. When you type anything into the address bar it is forwarded to google to search for a suitable site to match your text. I confirmed this using Wireshark (it spies on your ethernet traffic). Google as far as I am aware will keep a record of this enabling them to record every single piece of text ever typed into Chrome. The option can be disabled but it should be explicity explained at install.

The googleupdater.exe is just ridiculous, generally as a CG user you want to keep your memory as free of junk as possible. It is crazy that google run this app without asking for permission and do not even include it in the windows startup.

These two issues mean that I will be sticking to FF till google get there act together. The only advantage is the seperate process meaning no total browser crash.

a.vector

Ruramuq
09-12-2008, 03:30 PM
when I tried it, I noticed too, that chrome connects to google servers(I cound not find a way to totally deactivate that), and the worst is that it uses a client ID, that google can use to spy you easily.
Google Updater runs by itself, you people check "Scheduled Tasks" in the control panel.. I found this updater there after I uninstalled, so.. well, I even found chrome.exe running without my consent, and doing something in background slowind down the pc..

chrome looks nice, but it's not secure right now, not at all.

grrinc
09-12-2008, 04:19 PM
Google are data harvesters. It pays good money. I find the whole 'we're nice - honest' declaration hard to digest.

Nemoid
09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
tried it, but as for now i didn't like it . I don't like how it manages bookmarks, and i find myself at home in FF. love it! can agree only on speed and sepatrate processes but all the rest i found it not that userfirendly. plus, i didn't find any flash plugin for it.

Spin99
09-18-2008, 02:20 PM
If you're running an old machine and your memory is tight then Chrome is ideal for browsing with your 3D apps open imho
Of course FF is a more fully fledged browser with all the bells and whistles and functionality.

** UPDATE **

My major annoyance (1-pixel see-through gap) is now gone.
This after running the dev release with the --magic_browzR switch BUT
It still doesn't play that well with Windoze

It mostly steals the task bar (on top!) and doesn't really cascade so much lol
It reminds me of the birth pangs of the Sarafi browser yet look how nicely it actually runs on Windows now. So there must be hope, it's still a beta or dev release anyway..

jewalker
01-13-2009, 07:49 PM
I'm just wondering if anyone has used Google's Chrome recently and if they've noticed any changes or improvements over the last couple of months?

When I first tried using Chrome I really like its simple interface, and some sites were really fast. However it just was not usable for me. Flash didn't really work well. Many of the flash movie players would hang and stutter their playback, and it wasn't a network issue.

Even though Google claims that each tab is launched in a separate thread and should not affect other tabs I constantly load a page in one tab only to hang the entire application for 30-60 seconds. And this is on web sites that are generally well designed and/or simple to load.

Has anyone had similar similar experiences in the past? Had similar experiences recently?

Spin99
01-17-2009, 06:45 PM
I don't know there's always naysayers but why don't you try things for yourself.
I love minimalistic approaches and Chrome imho uses just that.
It's very light and fast on old PC's, fastest even, so that's probably why
I keep starting it up. It's also very uncluttered.

My major peeve is back tough, and personally I don't maximise it any more.
If I do, here comes guess what?
The 1-PIXEL SEE THROUGH TO THE DESKTOP GAP OF DOOM!
I really hate that.

Otherwise it would be my favourite browser.
Are they ever going to fix it btw?
Or don't old machines deserve a decent GUI? I'd love to find out..

Gentle Fury
01-17-2009, 06:53 PM
have they updated this browser yet? I tried it when it came out and loved the interface...but it has some major memory leaks and would lock up my system if i left it running.

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