Cinematic Game Icons - character/vehicle - swag

[iC4]

sounds really promising!

good luck

[janhath]

Nice storyline.But if it's a first person shooter how will we see the girl and the scooter? Just in the cut-scenes?:hmm: :)

[Aearon]

i'm really looking forward to seeing more work from you!! :D

this wakes some good memories about the above & beyond challenge from way back. i also looked up some of your other challenge entries...niice, i wish i had kept myself that busy.

Anyway, i AM in on this one :bounce:

But if it's a first person shooter how will we see the girl and the scooter? Just in the cut-scenes?

well i guess that's the way it's done in every fps game, no? you only see the character in scripted sequences or fmv's..and with this challenge being about just that, i don't see the problem... BUT a third person perspective might make more sense with this kind of vehicle :shrug:

[swag]

ok - some story update -

you´re slip in Scuba-Girl - she be drawn by a scooter with some arms (yes u can update your scooter in the game:scream: )- there are 2 play modes water and station or underwater cities in the water mode you look over the scooter in a nice water world (like Finding Nemo :rolleyes: ) and pay attention of see monsters and some ugly guys (underwater pirates) there will be also a villain group u have to combat in several missions
the the station or underwater cities mode is a standard FPS view like Doom3 or HL2 here u can fight, buy some new weapons or scooter and so on ... just imagine!

there will be cut scenes where u can see Scuba-Girl in action (i hope her body will fit youre taste:rolleyes: )


next week will come more

[swag]

ok some declarations - in the water view u look over the scooter like i said - the scooter is shown in the viewport like a weapon in unreal 2 ... (the scooter is a kind of weapon) but u can swith to a 3. person view i u want same in the city mode

[Virtuoso]

Sounds promising Swag..............I like the overall premise and thoughts,should be fun to do for you,and fun to follow for the rest of us.Good luck.:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

so here is the first concept -
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl01.jpg

[ilasolomon]

:D hey that's interesting! :thumbsup: & a underwater fps is very original in my experiences.

[swag]

some more concept
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scooter.jpg

[swag]

time for block out the shape c&c :rolleyes:
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl02.jpg
low 530 quad faces and a subd level 1
hmmm next i will do the fins :wip:

[ilasolomon]

very CLEAN & SMOOTH, I like the way you are managing the quad-polys.
was wings3d your tool?

[swag]

Thanks ila great to hear it from u ;)
wings3d and Maya i love this combination
it was easier for me with a 100% quad model to work with maya subd´s

[swag]

a rough fin concept
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/fin.jpg

[swag]

some hands - what u think - is the look ok

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_hand_01.jpg
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_hand_02.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: hi swag ...clean and smooth modeling in body . In hands i am no expert so i will just say that i think that fingers should be longer!!!Hope i helped.

:bounce:

[swag]

Thanks DimitrisLiatsos i measure out some references :) i think so too looks a bit too short

[davemcd]

hehe sweet.... I love the idea of a scuba game... The very first game i ever wanted to make was a scuba diver game back on the C64 when i was about 9 years old.... I think i wrote a design for it (i say design in the loosest possible terms...i was 9) though i was very much let down by the fact that i couldnt code BASIC..and did i mention i was 9 :)

ah..through your design the dream lives on ;) keep it up

DaveMcD

[swag]

thanks davemcd i hope you get no wet dreams when u dream of scuba-girl:drool:


here the fin - not finished yet
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_fin_01.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Coming along real well Swag.You always do fine jobs with these challenges,just wanted to mention that.And this one too is interesting.Your modeling looks clean,and the idea is fresh:thumbsup:

The only minor crit I can give,and this could just be a taste thing so no real crit is that the palm of the hand itself could be a bit long.Perhaps it could be shortened abit.Or if you elongate the fingers a touch as Dimi suggested it could be perfectly balanced then,but maybe then the hand in total may look to elongated.So play with,but right now I think it's the palm of the hand that's just a bit too long.

Ok have fun......... looking good.Keep :wip: :beer:

[swag]

Thanks Virtuoso iam so alone here :D the hands now updated iam working on the sexy head :):wip:

[Katss]

Looking good.I like the theme.your modeling skills are really good too.Updates please.:p
:beer:

[swag]

thanks Katss


i hope u like the head the eyes not finished yet (very wip) 100% quad poly
in subd view
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_head_01.jpg
c&c is welcome

[Aearon]

perfect execution so far swag :thumbsup:

one minor issue.. it's all quads but you have a pole in a very curvy area (the back of the jaw) which causes pinching

the lips extend a little too far outwards for my taste.. oh well ...

looking forward to see her in all her assembled glory :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[swag]

fist what u talking about :):p

[Virtuoso]

Those lips are totally kissable,I like them all full and pouting,keep them out there Swag...........I'll talk to Fist about that.;) :beer:

[Aearon]

lool swag, you cheater (aka pole-remover)

admit it, you would have never found that one without me :p

Virtuoso: arr..ok i'll give you that one.. now go back to your thread :arteest:

[swag]

ok i pull the lips out - iam not clear of the look at this stage i have complete her to see where iam going

[Konic]

Hey lots of good stuff here,I like her,plus the extra are pretty nice additions.:thumbsup:

[swag]

Thanks Konic

hmm iam not happy with the eyes someone have a idea
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_face_01.jpg

[Aearon]

about the eyes: try to make the curvature more uniform.. the lids look a little wavy and the eyes pull up towards the outside. also make the upper lid overlap the bottom one. plus i don't see a tearduct

right now the eyelids look like a ring that is stuck on, which they probably are mesh structure wise. they don't 'flow' into the surrounding area.

she looks very good from the front, but not as good as from the side (i ALWAYS have that problem) Spend some quality hours in the front view, maybe defining the cheeks a little better. there is something about her face that makes it look like she's fake-smiling. :wip:

arr this turned into a rant ;) don't get me wrong.. those are just minor tweaks. it looks great already

[Virtuoso]

Hey Swag,I think I can help you.First listen to Fist's advice,tons of tweaking,molding.Second are you using Maya? I think I recall you use Wings 3D then transfer to Maya right?

Well do you have problems with 3DS tranfers to maya? Do you use FBX. I can send you some help if you want.Let me know,Swag send me a PM,and give me your E-mail address,Ill then attach a zip file of some things that I think can be of great help .:beer:

"FIST" Clean out your PM box. I got's things to talk about ..............:p :beer:

[swag]

oh fist thanks for your help i will rework the eye completely and iam happy with the side view and as u say the front has no style (character) have to measure some references there is something wrong :annoyed:

Virtuoso 3ds is ok wings3d can import it - thanks for your great help

[Virtuoso]

swag...I'll send it in a few minutes. Hope it'll be the kind of help you might need.I think you'll like the goodies.:beer:


Check your mail.....:beer:

[swag]

thanks Virtuoso :beer:

Check your mail.....:lightbulb

[swag]

update
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_head_02.jpg
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_head_03.jpg

[swag]

update
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_fin_leg_01.jpg

[Leesee]

looking very nice.How about her own sub?I like those fins too.Nice idea,only maybe bring the parts of the nose just above the nostrils up or out a little. Good work,it's going to be origianl when finished.:thumbsup:

[Colin de bink]

dit you stitsch her up already???
I want to see her in one piece!!!
...no presure at all or anything ;)
way to go, keep it comming

[Virtuoso]

Looking much more smooth,more organic,shapely.I Like the fins and the extras you always come up with in these challenges.Keep going,you are on the way to another fine fine challenge entry.:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

Leesee thanks - own sub? what u mean - next time i look at the nose and tune it
Colin de bink wait iam working on it
Virtuoso my beachboy - yes but the eyes not 100% i have not enough geometrie i do that later when i go to the next subd level at this time iam on level 0 the setup level :)

body
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_02.jpg

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by swag
Leesee thanks - own sub? what u mean - next time i look at the nose and tune it

He probably means "own sub" as in "own submarine" ;)

[swag]

yes - thats clear but there is a underwater scooter concept on page 1

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by swag
yes - thats clear but there is a underwater scooter concept on page 1

Perhaps he wants something better. I don't know, I'm not him :shrug:

[swag]

subd version
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_04.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Clean modeling,cannot be cleaner.It's coming along well Swag.I just think besides that you should think of adding something with more pizzaz,something that will make it more of a true gaming icon.Add some extra something,a hook.To really give it that something to be immeadiatly recognised.

So Sub-D in Wings,and then to maya ,right? Cool/keep going strong Swag,it's fine work you are showing as always.:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

thanks Virtuoso i try to get more pizzazz :)
wings3d (i like the tweak tool) for bocking things out after that import into maya

here is a little update its very wip c&c
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_05.jpg

[Virtuoso]

Looking sweet Swag.She can scuba dive on my Beach anytime,among othert things.:p ;)

I like where you are headed,it's what I expect from you anyways.Keep up the very nice work Swag.looking very good.:beer:

[Katss]

Nice looking model.:thumbsup:
Original idea too,at least for the most part.I think it's very well done.Please give more views if possible.Nice work.:beer:

[swag]

thanks Virtuoso & Katss

here is a closeup from the head - iam tuning the body now
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_head_04.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Now that u have come so far i can tell swag that i tottaly agree with what Virtuoso says in the begining of this page....very clean work....and i definitely i ilke the helmet...it reminds me of "SPACE ODYSSEY 2001" HOSTESS of the SpaceBus in the beginning of the movie...:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Magnusv]

This is quite anice model.Nice and as mentioned by others clean.In fact quite fresh.Good job.:applause:

[Neox]

Originally posted by Magnusv
This is quite anice model.Nice and as mentioned by others clean.In fact quite fresh.Good job.:applause:

nothing to add :D
but change the proportions of her head, they look a little bit off :)

[swag]

tell me more NEOX what i have to change ;)

[Steveyola]

Looking really fine my man.I think the proportions are just fine,taste thing I quess.Real smooth modeling.Fine job in overall style and work.:thumbsup: :)

[swag]

thanks DimitrisLiatsos i have to watch SPACE ODYSSEY 2001 again i cant renember

thanks Magnusv

Neox come on tell me please

thanks Steveyola its true its all taste thing but a nice true face is a challenge and Neox has a good eye i hope

so here is the body(suit) update

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_07.jpg
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_08.jpg

come on crit it - i will now begin with the creases damn i think there are much

[Virtuoso]

It's looking smooth,and clean. I like the last update on the back-side.It has more lift,curve.

I still think you can add just a "TOUCH",and I mean just a touch of curve and size to the backs of her calves & hamstrings.(The back part of the thighs.) It's very nice,looking to be a very nice clean model.

I also think you should think of adding a little something extra to the whole idea. A "Hook" or that little something more to make her more memorable. A game Icon needs that something more original that item that makes it stand out even more.

Ok,it's all on target to be a very nice creation,keep going with her,it's looking very nice.:thumbsup: :beer:

[antnik]

Hey Swag.. Brilliant work man :thumbsup: I don't have to say anything else.. The members before me told you everything. Keep it up. :beer:

[Kenter]

Turning out pretty cool.I like the figure,lloks proportional and really well done.:beer:

[swag]

Virtuoso a Hook? hehehe sex sells why i need a hook (joking)

antnik & Kenter thanks but i need crits :)

screen capture
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_body_10.jpg

[swag]

scooter first step - looks like a fish :)
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter_01.jpg

[harly]

Hey swag, the girls head definitively need some extra work, she has too much forehead and the cheeks are too squarish.
Go on....

[swag]

puuuf hmm i look if i have some extra time for the head iam not 100% happy with the it but i didnt go for a realistic one

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter03.jpg
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter05.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

nice lines on the scooter ...it fits i think the design of your character very well..update please soon. i would like to see where are u heading with the scooter design:thumbsup:

[swag]

DimitrisLiatsos thanks for your words

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter02.jpg

[d4rk]

My only concern is how do you steer the scooter? there doesn't apear to be any steering fins at all. I think it would be pretty hard to try to use your own body to try to steer. Plus I can't see any way to turn it on or apply more gas/power or any triggers for the guns at all.

[Colin de bink]

I think the design of this thing is great and I also think that stearing whit this thing is posible under water.

however I have a problem whit the hull
it is, I dont know, a litlle bubbly or not smooth enough. especialy the tip of the nose
you might think I am whinning but I think it would be a better model when you smooth it out a little

[caliman]

hi swag
schöner gleiter - coole idee mit den 2 teilen
...was hältst du von ein paar kleinen flügeln, einen frontscheinwerfer und ein paar ecken;)
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ciao
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[swag]

d4rk hehehe look the concept on the first site - the back of the scooter can slide left/right and the up/down stearing does the fins in the flow channel
Colin de bink thanks the nose will get a tuning :)
caliman thanks - ... wings :argh: no wings - scubagirl can do that without wings

[Fetus23]

Your on the other side of the fence swag :)...I like this strange work alot. The girl is looking good...I'm wondering how she breaths under water?....Do you have plans for a mouth peice or a bubble covering the front?...that could make for some more details on the helmet. Also the area in the middle of the chest where the breast lines meet the zipper line looks a little pinched together though that could be the high specularity. Maybe separating the breasts a little could help this. Her forearms also feel a bit boxy at the moment. I like the modeling of the face its unique and has character for me....I hope you have time to texture it all up!! specs, colors, bumps! :wip: The ship is looking really nice so far...Just waiting to see where it will go and how this will all fit together. Your works are great swag...I look foward to your future projects!

:beer:
fetus

[Kenter]

Overall a pretty cool model and vessell.The girl needs some real cool textures in the end to really make this one top notch.Also the scooter needs way more details and stuff.pretty cool work so far however overall.:thumbsup:

[Racavocals]

I reallly like both models just one thing about the body suit..., even though I really like how it goes up her uh... cheeks... maybe make it a little looser I dunno it looks like a body suit until you see that. but it looks great.

[swag]

Fetus23 i miss u here :beer: she breaths trust me - the helmet has a glas visor (simple nurbs patch) i hide it so u can see the face better

Kenter i hope there is time for texture :)

Racavocals iam at this time not happy with the suit i take it back and do the scooter

update
http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter06.jpg

[Scottosh]

Looking pretty good guy.But I think front end should be expanded wider.More detail too like air duct fins on sides just for show like the corvette of old.Good work here.:thumbsup:

[swag]

Scottosh the front is ok i think it the angle of view that deceive

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter09.jpg

[antnik]

Hey Swag... The model is very good and clean... :thumbsup: Texture it and you are ok. Keep it up man. :thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

antnik thanks :)

here is a
Turnaround (divx) (http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_scooter01.avi) 592k

[Virtuoso]

Looking good Swag.I have always liked your attention to extra details and a more original approach to your work.

I think a few more extras could be nice additions,but save those for after the main work is done.Textures too will really be nice additions when final.

Some more attention too to the face textures,a more soft earth tone perhaps mixed in.The modeling looks clean,nice quite smooth.The vessel needs a litle more pop,something to really make it stand out,a little something more,and no her boobs cannot be cloned onto the scooter.So while she has them and helps,the scooter needs something else.:p

Just a added gadget/toy,spear gun attachment perhaps?

All in all this is one of my favorites in this challenge from all aspects,good job Swag,just add another little something here and there to give it that something extra.

Anyways very well done.

:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

Virtuoso thanks man i hope we will get some extra time :)

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scuba_head_tex01.jpg

[swag]

ok ich transfer this on the next page i think on page 4 are too much pics (poor modem user)

[janhath]

her backside looks a bit pinched,but still I think this along with her scooter are really fine models.Show them together soon I hope.Nice job all in all.:beer:

[swag]

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl_final01.jpg

[swag]

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl_final02.jpg

[Steveyola]

very nice job.I would have like to see more color,depth,but still this is quite clean,and good touch.Nice models,very nice entry.:applause: :beer:

[swag]

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl_final03.jpg

[swag]

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl_final07.jpg

[swag]

this was the last one in time - the setup and the skinning are very rough no time sorry - i go in the challenge site for the composition i think it shows more

see u next time :beer:

http://swag02.bei.t-online.de/scubagirl_final13.jpg

[ShinChanPu]

:thumbsup:
Looks great! Good proportions and clean design. I think some graphic design onto the suit would be fine. But the time is over...
Good luck!!!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I like the underwater scene...cool character and a very cool underwater ride...:thumbsup: :wavey:

I would like to see a small animation of her driving among corrales and underwater rocks....:thumbsup:

[swag]

<Shin Chan Pu> thanks yehhh time is over
<DimitrisLiatsos> thanks - animation ... i think about it :)

[Dirk_P_Ho]

Cool, reminds me of NOLF, i really like the lighting on the underwater dealy there.

[Aearon]

looking great swag, i especially like the face in that last shot, very good :thumbsup:

[Magnusv]

If only you could have a scene,an underwater scene,with plantlife,and caustics,but still maybe you can still have one on the side now.
I like this entry very much,beautiful girl,nice model,and machine too is very nice.Good work.:applause: :buttrock:

[Virtuoso]

You have done very well Swag.Turned out to be one of the best entries,nice clean modeling and nice extra scooter to go with a very nice modeled girl.Wings 3D and Maya are a very nice combo.I have been getting more to grips with Maya myself in the past months.Still got Max in my blood however.

:)


Hope to see you soon,and very nice work.:thumbsup: :beer:

[swag]

thanks to fist, Magnusv and Virtuoso iam happy that u like it :)

[antnik]

Hey Swaq. You have done a very good job. Enjoy the summer.... Nice to meet you man. :thumbsup:

[swag]

antnik - i like your space ship one of the best technical work in this challenge - thanks

special thanks goes to Virtuoso for his crits and kind words and help (eye) :beer:

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