Cinematic Game Icons - Character- Jelwa

[Clanger]

Great start, keep them coming.

[Kozlov]

Just started to make the head. It does not look god at the moment but i hope it will someday:) :beer:

[Kozlov]

Ok thats it for today im going out to see some sun and trees grass flowers life in general.
Thanks for the support i wish ypu all the best:)

kamil

[Kozlov]

Hi.
I forgot to tell you something about the game my character is to be part of. The idea is simple the Dwarf lives in this periiod of human history where all kinds o creatures lardge and small biutiful and ugly strugle to surwive in hudge but dark and gloomy cities. Hes way starts when he see a murder( of nobel dwarf) hes not supose to see and hears a things hes not supose to hear. From now on he is a fugative.

Kamil:beer:

[draco76x]

Can't wait to see your whole model.

Nice.

[Rey]

Nice Start

[Kozlov]

Hi,
Thanks Ray and Draco76. Im working on the details of the face now trying to add some wrinkles in order to change this computer artificial like apperance.

Kamil:beer:

[iC4]

looking really good so far

[Nicodemia]

WOW, like you said, those wrinkles have really started to get rid of the cg look. Very nice so far.

[Kozlov]

Thanks IC4 and Nicodemia:)
I have to make some diner and go out i live you with the wire wich is mess right non but that is the wey i work.

Take care
Kamil:beer:

[KayosIII]

Wow Thats starting to look very good very fast... Adding wrinkles Is still something I have to master - They look excellent.

[OZ]

EXELLENT start! Very promising!

[azazel]

Is he a goblin? looks kinda goblinish ;):beer:

Fajne, fajne, powodzenia ;):thumbsup:

[slom]

Hi jelwa character haed coming on great. just wondering do you use spline or poly. If you use spline do you know any good tut's coz im a newbie to all 3d

[Criogen]

ermm...

I think it doesn't look like he uses splines... It's definatly poly modelling.

btw nice work so far, but I think his ears should be more like in concept... more spikey? (don't know the right word ;) )

[Kozlov]

Hi there,
Thanks Azazel and congratulations for your CG reward togrther with your brother you made a realy great picture, as for my char the idea was to make a dwarf but if he looks kinda goblinish i dont mind realy:). Thanks KayosIII and Oz for warm coments. Slom, Criogen is right this is poly modeling with meshtools. You can download meshtools (this is a script wich is a great help in modeling) free from http://www.max3d.pl/download/skrypty/meshtools_2_5.zip
About the tutorials there are a lot of them i think the most popular is Modelling Joan of Arc by Michel Roger
http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/joanmenu.asp
but on this site you will find more.
Yes Criogen the ears will improve its shape with time i hope:)
Thanks again
Good luck
Kamil

ps. Azazel baaardzo mi się podoba wasz obrazek klasa pomysl animki tylko nie widzialem bo nie mialem kiedy zessac ale jaestm i tak pod wrazeniem.
Powodzenia bo chyba startujesz:)
Narki:beer:

[goodlag]

very Nice start:thumbsup:

[akocan]

HI THERE JELWA.

Very good start. I guess it has a relation with the goblins or so? I mean you could connect the history of this creature with them because it has a bit of a similar look. :D

The wrinkles are very effective and also if you added a little bit more detail to his nose, I believe it would become more efficient. It's you call.. Anyways, great so far. :bounce:

Sincerely

[Kozlov]

Hi,
thanks Goodlag and Akocan. Maybe you right Akocan about his race. He looks like a goblin because of unplesant apperance. Im not an expert but in my opinion its possible to have a race of dwarfs with such a look. Ill wait until i finish and then decide to wich rece put him.
Thanks again and good luck

alitle update, a leave all the rest of the wrinklest to bump mapping and i leave the face for a moment and move down a bit:wavey: :beer:
Kamil
BioTech 3D

[antnik]

Way to go man....:thumbsup:

[schmu_20mol]

really nice :thumbsup: .... like to see some updates

[Kozlov]

Thanks Antnik and Shmu ill take a brake and come back in the evening. I leave you with wire update...
Take care
Kamil:beer: :wavey:

[chucy©]

WOW :eek:

i like that kind of detail work!!!:thumbsup:

keep that high detail level!:buttrock:

good luck....

[DimitrisLiatsos]

excellent start ...i will check on this every time you update:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Kozlov]

Hi there,
Thanks for comments im happy that you like what im doing. Next update , just started to model the chest and addede niples..
Take care
Kamil
BioTech3D

[Nicodemia]

Great work Jewla. Just realised where i've seen a similarly ugly dwarf. Did anyone ever read the Slaine graphic novels?

[Kozlov]

Hi Niocodemia i did not read Slaine Graphic novels could you perhaps give me an idea what kind of novel is it? :wavey:

[Nicodemia]

sorry Jewla this is the only pic i could find. Slaine and his travelling companion Ukko the Dwarf

[Kozlov]

Thanks Nicodemia Realy nice Dwarf there and in fact he kind of reminds my char. Its hard to be oryginal this days:)
Kamil :beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: I really love all that detail around the eyes and forehead!!!

:bounce:

[antnik]

I Like it!!!! :applause: you know how to play man....keep on...:thumbsup:

[BladeFX]

Nice char. Keep up the good work :thumbsup:
He's got a nice expression already.

[Kozlov]

Thanks again guys:beer: This is the eye section wire i leave you with.:wavey:
Kamil

[Aearon]

that's a load of wrinkly detail you have there!! :argh:

awesome design!

[Kozlov]

a litle update of my efforts into Dwarfs back modeling.
Im going to fill my stomach with some green things:)
Kamil:beer:

[dodo3d]

wow very good modeling and nice detaild in the face

[Kozlov]

Thanks Dodo3D :beer:
im currently moving down with the arms.
Litle update...:wavey:

[Kozlov]

and som wire....now going to get drunk:beer: cheers

Kamil

[ofir3dvb]

wow i really like it!!
good luck!

[bootchec]

he is my friend :) ql isn;t it sry he :)

polnisze werszion:
kip go³ing

[Asgar]

He's simply amazing!Awensome job so far!Wait for mare update and details!!!

[Virtuoso]

Very nice Jelwa..............Clean and interesting to look at model.:thumbsup:

Perhaps with time you can give him something more to make him lovable,something to make him more in-dearing to the potential gamers,a device or comical gadget perhaps. Not that he is already well done and designed but in my opinion he needs a bit more warmth to be a lead character in a game. With some comical extra item or two that is integral to him I think you can give people more to care about him. Something like your caveman creations,more warmth, it's just a thought.

Well none the less you have a very good start with him,and I am interested to see him get up-dated.:thumbsup: :beer:

[cgbinho]

hey, the model is getting amazing!! keep posting!

[kr3ml]

Hey Jelwa , that is pretty good man :thumbsup:

[Kozlov]

Ups +[*v*]+ guys im drunk so sory for my post wich already is a disaster :) tghanks for comments Boocheck who is my friend from tyhe univ and thnks to him im here. Thanks Cgbinho Asgar and ofir3dvb
:applause:
Virtuoso i know what you mean, there has to be something original about tha char. ill try to thinkj and model it.
Thank you vey much im so happy taht you like my work..
Good luck to everryone
Take care
kamil:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[Nicodemia]

damn that ouzo! It certainly gets around! :applause:

[Kozlov]

Nicodemia i would like to have a chance to taste Uzo, here in Polanld we have vodka wich is a the quickiest way to get drunk. And if you drin it with honey and lemon there is no hangover:)
Try it it works better then mi Windows :)
Take care kamil:beer: :beer: :wip:

[Hexodam]

:drool: the quality

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ Nicodemia

damn that ouzo! It certainly gets around!


..u can say that again...i drunk friday night with some friends by the sea 12 bottles OUZO...weeeeee!!!:buttrock: ...and i am still shaking like this small sprite :buttrock:


Jelwa ...Amazing work so far....:thumbsup:

[Kozlov]

12 bottles?!! ups Dimitri thats a score:)
Last yeaar iv been in Grece workin at Thesaloniki Expo as a mime:) That was fun. You have biutiful coutry, great see(and not oly) food and a lot of girls, nice girls:beer:
Take care
Kamil

[chucy©]

very nice work, really!!!:thumbsup:

i´m waiting for some updates man...:rolleyes:

@Virtuoso:
perhaps the char. will get this kind of personality when he will be posing like a hero....

[Kozlov]

Hi there its been a long time:) tonight ill work a bit, just started with the hands and still struggling with lower arm.
Thanks Chucki :beer:
Take care Kamil:buttrock: :wavey: http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/dwarf-7web.jpg

[Neox]

good work! :thumbsup:

[Kozlov]

Thx @Neox, you guys had a huge entry:beer: nice me like a lot.
Now posting some wire (finaly have some web space to put larger images, me happy:beer: :applause: )
Take care everyone
Kamil:wavey: http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/dwarf8web.jpg

[fellah]

really nice character jelwa, maybe his hands could be a bit bigger and his forearms a bit thicker. but that depends on how the lower part of his body will look like. as it looks now, you're going for small feets/legs to, so then it's fine. keep going :wip:

[Kozlov]

Hi,
thx @Fellah, yes his hand can look like they were to small but that is the idea cuz the char. itself is a dwarf, he has a big head (so proportions alredy are broken) If i used his hed as a refrence for seting up the rest of the body he would end up taller and thicker. But everithink is still in progress so can change enytime.
Thanks very much for the comments.
Good luck on your chalange
Kamil:beer: :wavey:

[dominicqwek]

nice. i do hope to see big feets though, cos he's head is looking huge now. Having large feets would be a nice touch. Well, but it is your own design, so keep it up.:bounce:

[Virtuoso]

Hi jelwa......OK I think you should go with extra big feet,and hands.A character like this just screams GIVE ME BIG FEET & HANDS....Just an opinion,not the rule of course.

;)

I think what you do have is something really nice,a speacial character really,with more time you sure will have something to be proud of.I'll see you soon,keep up with the great effort.

:thumbsup: :beer:

[Kozlov]

Thanks @Dom the huge head gives him this sort of dwarf look in my opinion. Im not shure about the feet im quite far away from making them. We will see whether bigeer are better than smal.
@Viruoso Thanks again always like your comments:beer: ill make an experiment with the hands but first i have to finish them cuz i gave'em only a shape of hands but no details. Ill do the same with the feet as well.
Take care:beer: :wavey:
Kamil

[Kozlov]

Ok small update the char. can stand by it self but a lot to do with the legs and hands. Then some aditional items.
Kamill:beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: Jelwa ..hi...the proportions i like very much!!!...i don't know if u should listen to Virtuoso for bigger hands and feet...i get the feeling that this is going to be a very nice character!!!...damn..that smile on his face...:drool:

[visualboo]

I like the face so far... the wrinkles look pretty good. IMO he needs quite a bit more detail in the mouth area, especially inbetween the upper lip and nose. I'm not to sure about the crazy proportions at this point. I'll wait to see some updates to comment further on that.

:beer:

[Virtuoso]

Hi jelwa.... You should'nt listen to DimitrisLiatsos telling you not to listen to me...........Really.......;) :p


Actually it's up to you,but remember others too made my suggestions as well to a point,we can only suggest,to each his or her own. I think the character could use large exxagerated hands and feet to go with the head,and the whole toonish theme.It would be a much more intense effect on the whole look.But that's just me.:)

Either way you go small feet/hands or Large feet/hands or somewhere in the middle is all up to you in the end. What you do have already is quite impressive,and shows lot's of potential.See you after another up-date..........and you too Dimi.;) :beer:

[Kozlov]

Thx guys,
@Dimitri-thanks for your support on the proportions, im not yet sure whether to change hands and feet size first i have to model them and then see what ist the best solution.
@Visuablo-thanks, about the wrinkles on the face in the area you mentioned, i didnt model any more with poly but decided to make some bumps istead wich is allowed by the rules of the chalange. I just didnt wanted to exaggerate on this point. And the proportions hmmm, since he is dwarf i thoght to myself that he should have proportions quite like small children have with a bit of comic touch though:beer:
@Virtuoso im realy greatful for every comment i get from others cuz after hours in front of the computer with the same model sometimes you just cant see any mistakes youv made or that there is something missing. But not always i follow the advicecs, this time though maybe i will, but like i said before it will all turn out at the end.:beer: :p
Thanks again for support :wavey: :wip:
Tace care
Kamil

[Rey]

You are speeding through this.
Its coming along really nice.

[Chabee]

Hey man, very good caracter!!! :applause:

[Kozlov]

Thanks @Chabee and @Rey, justa made a hand for him no nails yet. Now ill take care about his feet.
Kamil:beer: http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/hand1web.jpg

[bootchec]

Biotekk Rulezz !!
so nice and sexy legs
imo make a bigger BUT, and as I told U make a large fiut :)

[schmu_20mol]

hey this one is really some kick-ass model...imho i'd give him a really big belly ;)

[Kozlov]

Thanks Bootchec as always constructive hahaha. Prepere yourself for my visit in Walbrzych we will make the city rock:)
Small update, now making som aditional items but im to tired to continue. I have an idea for his main weapon , i dont know the name in english but this is very simple "device" designed for stones throwing. plus a som magical rings and stones and a walking stick with some extra powers...and i dont remember :beer:
Take care
Kamil

[schmu_20mol]

your thinking of a 'sling'?....

[Kozlov]

Thanks @Shmu_20mol, sling you say sounds good to me i couldt find this in the dictionary so thanks for help.
Take care
Kamil :bounce: ;) :beer:

[schmu_20mol]

glad to help out:beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: I like the detail on shoes :bounce: ....this is becoming one of my favourites...good work!!

[Jhonus]

nice model, i think you should increase the size of the calve muscles and broaden the shoulders to accomodate the size of the head.... well, at least test it out to see what it looks like

[Kenter]

Real nice work so far.I think I would have to agree with some of the others earlier in the thread with the larger hands and feet.The feet look good as do the hands,but need more size,at least for this type character,just another opinion.But your guy looks cool. :applause: :)

[Kozlov]

@Dimitri thanks for support, your model rocks:)
@Krugar- ill try that out, illl have to try many things mentioned by others to find best anatomical solution.Thanks for the tips.
@Kenter Thanks well as i said ill try out some other solutions and we will see.Now im working on some aditional items.
Thanks again guys:beer: :wavey:
Kamil

[dominicqwek]

yeah!! nice modelling! i would make the legs a bit larger,. to look a bit too skinny for me. Im watching this thread! :surprised

[Kozlov]

http://tgory.net/botchec/ylva/dwarf11web.jpg
Small update today terible headache no thoughts in my brain:(
Thanks @Dom (btw do you know that your nick in polisch means a HOUSE :)? )I know that he looks kinda skiny but i got tired of lardge muscles so decideed to make the oposite:) The feet and hands- i will make some experiment soon.
Thanks again
Take care:beer: :wavey:
Kamil

[Kozlov]

Small update today terible headache no thoughts in my brain:(
Thanks @Dom (btw do you know that your nick in polisch means a HOUSE :)? )I know that he looks kinda skiny but i got tired of lardge muscles so decideed to make the oposite:) The feet and hands- i will make some experiment soon.
Thanks again
Take care:beer: :wavey:
Kamihttp://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/Dwarf12web.jpg

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce:

I like your decision about muscles, i think it will more challenging than the opposite....!!!:thumbsup:

[iC4]

great character!

keep up the good work :bounce:

[Kozlov]

Thanks @Dimitri, im trying to be as assertive as i can:p :beer: Looking forward for some more of your updates.Grat job.
Thank you @IC4 now the hardest part of modeling in 3d - textures-i hope ill surviwe.
Thanks again guys good luck with yor chalanges
Take care
Kamil:beer:

[Virtuoso]

Hi Jelwa......Well I still think you could have gone the larger hands and feet way.Here is the reason: He is your version of a Dwarf,they are known to have extra large hands and feet,sure not always.There really is no wrong or right here.Actually we are both right,it's all about taste for this praticular model.The route you have taken is not quite the way I would have gone,but still it does'nt mean it's wrong.I just thought that maybe the toon route would have been better for this guy. Or realistic toon,somewhere in-between,my personal favorite.You know a caricature type creation.

:)


But let me tell you...................I still think he is an "A1" job,very nice,great to see,clean modeling,fun design,you have him looking very good indeed.I will look forward to your progress,keep working,it's all very much worth it.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Johnlittle]

Cool model.Good luck on the textures.nice expressive face.well done.:thumbsup:

[Erik]

Its coming along very nice, i like your model jelwa, and i will probably like it :thumbsup:
ps: you should listen virtuoso, about the hands, and you should listen Dimitris about the feets :D

[Kozlov]

Hi there,
@Erik im listenig to ya all taking notes and thinkig all the time about your comments. Some ill use some dont the tip with the hands and feet hmmmmm:) stil thinking.......thinking 010101010101....:beer: :wavey:
@John Litle Thank you i need that luck with textures or rather with uvw wich i do not like:)
@Virtuoso thanks you to kind, about the hands and feet i tryed that once and simly making them larger is not a gut solution i would have to re-model them a bit to obtain long but bigger an not big and fat hands and feet.Ill try that out and post som samples. Im looking forward to see your teem updataing, great concept(as i said before) is changing in to biutiful third dimention. Keep moving and shaking all that ver. you have there.
:beer: :wavey:
Small update ivery small....tiny..
Kamilhttp://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/Dwarf12web

[Neox]

NICE!

[Kozlov]

Thanks @NeoX, im happy that you like my dwarf:) Im watching your team thread and iv got only one word to tell- great. Keep on modeling.
Kamil:beer: :thumbsup:

[bootchec]

hey ho !
U better make him green or sth else(mo¿e siny) some bruises etc.


p.s. i szramy w pasie od tych rekawow bo jak bedzie biegakl to sie potnie tym :)

[AcidBoyXL]

I/O... 00111010
hi Jelwa

that's a gr8 begining of a big little dwarf :buttrock: he will look sweet with some textures.
Looking forward 2 see more of that fellow, I see him comming out from a shadow in a dark street or something...
he will rule :xtreme:

cheers :beer:
out...

[Colin de bink]

yeah real nice
nice level of detail, I like the sandals
I was going to make them for my model too

[bootchec]

how was dinner at ur grandma?
will u show any updates?
i am courious...
p.s jedziesz do mika magdy na jakas impreze?

[Kenter]

Funny,nice work,interesting character from head to toe.:applause: :thumbsup:

[Kozlov]

Hi there,
@Bootcheck thanks for tips, now moving to textures and maybe ill use blue:) The dinner was as always ....lardge my grandma took good care about me. Move your ars from that gloomy city and come over to Miko, today his big day a MA exam wrrrrr i wish him luck.
@AcidBoyXL- thats a great tip about the scene thanks, textures commin commin ...:)
@Colin de Bink im glad you like it thanks for support
@Kenter you are to good but dont stop, how was it interesting from head to toe :) thaks me happy.
Ok a litle up date nothing special i made rigging and set up a pose wich is again nothig special, i spoted some areas that need to be fixed so ill move to do that and then add some textures. I hope youll like it.
Take care
Kamil
:wavey: :beer: http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/dwarf-14web.jpg

[Virtuoso]

:arteest: :arteest: ............................looking very nice.Hey I like the hands now,you see it's a good idea you did not listen to meI am just too crazy for over-sized hands on characters.;) ........turned out very nice,the tendons in them are a nice added touch.You are a very fun and exciting artist to follow Jelwa,I really like your work very much.

Hey I also love your aniamtion entry characters and idea for the fight for strawberries too.Really funny,and very interesting.You are a new and exciting artist around here.Keep up the very nice and fun work.

And more,more,more.............:beer: :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce:Ok ..now i am happy...he is looking somewhere...he looks great Jelwa .... i want to see more !!!!:thumbsup:

[bootchec]

nice, but what the hell is that green thing on his head? ! ? and his beard ? ! ylva stop drinkin % :D

[janhath]

Ooh he is cute,nice little guy,does he bite? very nice work,it's done very well.Nice character personality wise too.:applause: :)

[Kozlov]

HI again,
@Virtuoso thanks very much, you are to kind im very happy that you like my Cavmen and the developing Dwarf and since its my first chalange im also happy for the respond from others. Your comments are always constructive i know its not only my opinion. About the hands, i did try to chang them but it simply didnt work:) so i left small hands. Animation is still in erly stage (im waiting to get my scaner back so i could send some skeches) and there is a great change that i wont finish it on time. But ill try.
Thanks again for support from a great artist
@DimitrisLiatsos me happy that you hapopy:beer: hope to see more of that growing head going as alway good.:thumbsup:
@Bootcheck that green thing is a hat but forgot to turn on the meschsmooth for rendering, and the color is just a lucki pic ill change it. The same thing about his beard:) Ill stop drinking when you stop smoking
@Janhatht thanks he dosnt bite yet cuz he has no teeth:) Ill make some soon and then well see:)
Thanks again :bounce:
Take care
Kamil

[Grugi]

:D

I love it. He has soo much character, don´t stop working :arteest:

Will you texture him for this challenge? Hope so :)

[bootchec]

JELWA BE CAREFUL I AM COMMING tommorow to show U how to drink :D and modeling after... :beer:

that hat remembers me sth 'gumisie rulezz' :bounce:

[Shamroc34]

Dude, this is looking so cool. But be carefule with the positioning of that dagger. He'll cut his "little dwarf" off. :eek:

Still that could be his mission...to find the missing member...:D

Perhaps he could be holding the dagger out from his body at the ready, or sheathed on his back or even on his leg?

Anyway I love the style and it rocks!!! You Rock:buttrock: :buttrock:

[Jhonus]

ears look like they need another smooth

[InnerVortex]

the model is totally sweet dude, but.. is just me or is something wrong with the lighting setup in that last one? i must say again.. the model is totally sweet.. i love the eyes, i just think you should make the muscles in the body more salient, no like muscle man!!! but more expressive..you know..
again.. that render does not do justice to the model.. im wainting for more.

[KashGarinn]

Give him a bigger loincloth.

K.

[Kozlov]

Hi,
@Grugi, thanks for support and kind words, right now im working on texrures hope to update soon.
@Bootchec haha im wainting, we have crap weather for swiming but great for drinking. Maybe ill clean up my room for your visit..hmmm no later:) Gumisie rulez
@Krugar, well the ears are already smoothed and i think ill leave em like this, but thanks for tip.:)
@Innervorteks, thanks about the light its not the final scenr just a skech so everything will change. Muscles, its a bit to late for such a adjustments but ill think about it when making the textures.
@KashGarin, well i like it this big but ill make some tests.
Thanks again
Take care
Kamil:beer:

[Kozlov]

Hi, everyone its been a while...
i decided to make a "vehicle" for my dwarf cuz he seems to be so alone among so many great characters:).
Here is a quick skech. Im not good on drowing so forgive me this, but an idea is quite clear i think.
Crits welcome
Kaml:beer: :wavey: http://tgory.net/bootcheck/ylva/strusweb.jpg

[Kozlov]

Hi, everyone its been a while...
i decided to make a "vehicle" for my dwarf cuz he seems to be so alone among so many great characters:).
Here is a quick skech. Im not good on drowing so forgive me this, but an idea is quite clear i think.
Crits welcome
Kaml:beer: :wavey:

[Colin de bink]

hey that's cool
when I read you were going to make a vehicle for your char I thought ...hmm... what kind of vehicel can you posibly make for a dwarf
but a creature can also be used as a vehicle ofcourse

I'm sure it's gonna be great :applause:

[Gregwid]

Very well done.Like him,got the look.hey man your doing real good.:thumbsup:

[Aearon]

oh yeah! i hope he'll be as good as your goblin(or whatever he is :D), get going!

your drawing is nothing to apologize for btw!

[Konic]

Hey that will look cool,like your goblin guy,man this work of yours is one of the best here,there's some really pro stuff here to.Your doing great.:thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Jelwa...............I cannot wait to see your next creation in 3D.I know it will be very pleasing to the eye.You have a very delicate pleasing style,I think you have tons of talent.It will be fun to see your progress.Work hard and have fun.See you soon.Very fine effort and art here already.Two thumbs up....:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

:beer:

[miko77]

Hi Mr Jelwa! I look with pleasure for your Dwarf! I hope so see more charakters made by you! You are my no 1! Great yob! see you!:buttrock:

[Chabee]

the finished characters looks very good .. i'm waitin' for the "chicken" model a lot. :) :bounce:

[Virtuoso]

:arteest: ..................Hope to see an update soon jelwa.It's a very nice creation you have here,plus a added creation sounds even more interesting.So get an up-date here as soon as possible.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Kozlov]

Hi, thanks everyone for continous support. I made a litle brake with my Dwarf but now commin back to work.
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/strusweb3.jpg
@Colin- yeah the organic kind of vehicle, no petrol only organic gass:)
@Gregwid Thanks for nice words but still a lot to do
@Fist I hope so as well, and im gld you like my shy drowing attempt. Im practising more and more recently. Better get going
@Miko77 finaly you pop in to my thread, how you like thr cg stuff growing around, here and there? I hpe to here from you some more and thanks btw best wishes to Magda
@Chabee good to see you again, im working on the chicken and hope to servr it quite soon. A lardge tasty chicken for all hungry for cg.
@Virtuoso its not a big update like you doing but a small step fprward. I always slow down on textures (had no idea how ) but its not as dificult as i thought. But still something i have to lern a lot. Thanks Viruoso for support, tonight ill update the whole head tex and maybe some more.
Take care
Kamil

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hi..this is one of my favourites...i like also modeling on the trasportation bird:thumbsup: .....just a small thought on texturing , which is starting very well, level down a bit the specularity...just a thought...can't wait to see it finished..:applause:

[antnik]

Hey Jelwa.. Good Work :thumbsup: Keep it up man. :beer:

[Kozlov]

opa,
another small step forward, iv added some difuse color(wich will change with time, wont be so reddish) and made a gi shot, its all in progress so more to come. The are a few maps still missing.
@Dimitris thaks, about the render image, it was just a test so sory for crap specularity but i wanted to see the bump mup and forgot about all the rest .
@Antnik thank ya im going going :beer:
Kamil
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/tex2web.jpg

[miko77]

Don't you think that your Dwarfs skin looks like babys or old pigs skin? i think that character like this should be more natural, near earth colour, sallow or something. How old is your Dwarf? Must he be so crumple? I suppose that Dwarfs life is hard... this is primitive character. But is his life so hard? His wrinkled skin scary me. Was that your idea?
p.s.
sorry for my mistakes :)
si ju kamilsien :) :buttrock:

[Virtuoso]

Funny transport......:buttrock:

It really is some of the best work in this challenge.The character and hid trusty steed are very nice together,funny and loks fun to play.

Try and give your textures an extra layer or two.Something softer that can show through,and add depth to the skin tone and color.Tone down the color a bit. I'll wait and see for another up-date to give you more tips if I can.

All in all it's all very nice work.Fun and just plain interesting.:thumbsup: :beer:

[akocan]

going so well..

I don't know why but I always imagined him with a darker skin.. did you ever try that?

Sincerely
:buttrock: :buttrock:

[MelC]

It's all good here.Funny stuff most of all.I like the whole thing a lot,keep it up man,good stuff.:applause: :)

[Kozlov]

HI,
@ MIko, nice have you back, well i havent seen a pig lately so cant tell if his skin looks like a pig skin, but i can tell you that the red colour at first was just a temporary solution, with time i realized that it looks quite alright( there are stil som areas to fix and colors to reduce) but i ll lieave him with the red face ....and his life is hard bolive me being such a small creature i a world full of large humans can be tough. His not so old, aroud 80 that will be hmmmmm let seee around 25 our human time. Thanks for coments hope to hear fromypu soon. Adn dont sory your english is great, i make a lot of mistakes.
@Virtuoso yea im working on the rest of the skin layers, toned down the color and changed the lightnig.
Im thinking of a tattoos on his chest and arms, like tribe or maori ones.
Iv spoted some areas around the ears that need to be fixed and that the bumb map is set to low (on the ears) ill fix that.
Thanks for support Virtuoso.
@Acocan that is a idea, at the beggining i was going to make a erth like color of the skin but decided to change it cuz i havent seen a red Dwarf yet, and evan if its not the first one in the history for me will be a first Red Dwarf ever. Thanks.
@MelC thanks you are to nice. dont stop plizz:)
Thanks very much for c&c
Kamil
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/tex3web.jpg

[Martypt]

It's all a nice work here.Good modeling,very good concept and idea,fun looking extra toy for your guy too.I think texture look a little like Stone however.But not too much,still is good,maybe soften a little.
OK,I like,it's a good work here.:thumbsup: :)

[Colin de bink]

yeah looking real nice
you need to add specular highlights though, even dry skin has them

[Kozlov]

Hey, ya
@Martyp, jeah you are right the texture looks a bit like a stone but its becouse there are still some maps missing, for now there are only two dif. and bump so i think that the complete map set will change the skin and mak it more soft and deep. Thanks for very nice comments me very happy you like it:)
@Colin, thats right rest of the map stuff comming, plus some more unwraping and texturing tomorow among other things specular map. The dry looking skin was the goal but it needs some depth tough, it will be fixed with additional maps i think.
Thanks for comets.:beer:
Take care everyone
Kamil

[Kozlov]

Opa, a small update,
moving down with the textures. Iknow that the bump is set to high but its a test so mistakes are everywhere:). Im working on chest and arms wrinkles right now hope to update soon. I think he is beggining to have the look of a quite unplesant Dwarf.
Take care Kamil
:beer:
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/4.jpg

[antnik]

Hey Jelwa... I like your man...Very good texturing.. keep it up. :beer:

[Steveyola]

This is one of my favorites,I think you can still give a little less bump,and more specular,alittle,just to make it more flesh like.But it is close,fun but a little troublemaker looking guy,I think.
It's really well done,I hope to see it's beast soon too with him.Nice job ,fun and well done.:thumbsup: :beer:

[Neox]

Originally posted by Steveyola
This is one of my favorites,I think you can still give a little less bump,and more specular,alittle,just to make it more flesh like.But it is close,fun but a little troublemaker looking guy,I think.
It's really well done,I hope to see it's beast soon too with him.Nice job ,fun and well done.:thumbsup: :beer:

dito :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Ok Jelwa..............Looking better every time.And it's looked good to begin with.This is one of my fav's right now with a small handful.It's got character,it's got a strange humor,a bit scary,grotesque,but all very good things.Your modeling is very good,and your style has more to it than most that I see out there.You have that certain "IT" that cannot always be taught.

As for the textures they are getting close.Layers Jelwa,layers.A little more specular is needed.he just looks like he would be a bit greasy,wet,damp,sweaty.

You have however gotten closer with this last up-date,it's looking better all the time.

I'll send you a PM,and show you a great help in texturing with many layers,and really be helpful.So look for it real soon.

Anyways.................very,very good work here Jelwa.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[miko77]

Kamilchen! Your Dwarf is better and beter every time! But when Dwarfs skin will be more natural? she looks now like made of dry sand...

your fan, miko :)
heavy metal man :buttrock: !

[Johnlittle]

I think it's come along quite well.The textures do need a lttle more,as mentioned by others,but they do look good.The whole character is really cool,a funny little guy and the modeling is really good.I think you got a good one here.:thumbsup: :)

[Kozlov]

HI,
Thanks to ya all for nice words and constructive criiticism, it gave me a lot, you see things that i sometimes cant so please crit this one as well. This is wrincles test, high res 1600z1200, there is a vein map but needs some improvements, no specular map yet. I know thr dry skin :) it will change i promise. The dif map is temp. just to have the same color, im intend to make him lighter on the chest, under arm, and stomach some parts of thr legs as well. The tatoo will go from the back to the front around thr neck just like japaniese tatoos. I hope you ll like it.
@Antnik thanks as always
@Steveyola, yes you are right about the bump and specuar, im working on it and thank you for support it both with criticism keeps me going.
@Neox thanks
@MIko77 dry skin wont be dry i promise Miko, take care
@Virtuoso yeah just like Shrek said Layers Layers - i iknow that this is a key, im lernig cuz as you know im new to texturing world. Ill try ta change this dry look and make him more shineing. Please keep crit me and poit out all the mistakes i make it helps a lot. Btw thaks for the link you'v send me, the book seems to be the answer to almost all my quesion but is still far away, but ill get it somday.
@JohnLittle thx just like everyone said the textures, me bad me change them soon. Me thank ya all.
Take care
Kamil
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/skin_bigweb.jpg

[Colin de bink]

hai ya Jelwa
its looking better all the time, love the vaines on the armes. the hands look a little plain but you are probaly still working on them right?
I think once you got your specular and maybe some other layers in place it will be a kickass texture job :buttrock:
dependend on the scene you put him in you might want to dirty him up a little

I hope I get to texturing before the challenge ends, it looks like fun :)

[Aearon]

har, i love the vehicle! great start on the texturing too, it still needs a lot of work of course.. but i can see it coming together already. the bump intensity is far too much though imo

[Wilson-3d]

Hi . It has been great fun watching this come together. It is looking great. I agree with fist and would turn down the bump. :thumbsup: I love love love the ears and nose with the long distance between the upper lip and mouth. Does that have a name?

[Virtuoso]

Hi Jelwa......Well again it's only getting better.Really geting it to look great.I think you need to also soften the tissue a little. I think that is what is still left to do to really be very much top notch.

Just a tip:He is an older guy right jelwa? What I would do is soften the tissue by using the "Burn Tool" with about a 30 to 35 pixel brush diameter.Then you should darken the higher wrinkles around the seams,the edges,high points.The skin will look much more flexible or pliable,and much softer.

Also add a little specular.I think he needs more of a moist appearance,a bit more shiny,just a touch at least.

Well it's just getting nicer all the time Jelwa,really nice fun rough tough old guy.Keep going it's all really very good.Also get his transport/beast finished if possible.

OK see you soon,very nice job here.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:

[Kozlov]

Hi,
@Colin, yup just like you said it need more work over textures, more layers. The hands look flat cuz there is no bump on them. Thx for support and crit
@Fist, the vehicle isnt finished yet and i hope to make it ready before the deadline. It is not as detailed as my Dwarf because will be covered with fur and there was no need of adding an extra details. Im glad you like it. As for the bump level, well i have to tell you that im satisfied with the result, i know that you dont like it but imo its allright:)thx
@Wilson 3D, well i didnt think about the name, but i think he needs one hmmmm have no idea at the moment but ill try to create one. Thx for nice words it make me keep going.
@Virtuoso, thanks for the tips i will try that for sure and post results. Specular-iknow i ll work on that Yeah i have to make legs for the transport to walk plus fur and textures for the long neck head and long legs i hope i will surviwe. Thanks for crit and support
Thanks all of ya
Take care
Kamil

[akocan]

hi JELWA...

Still going amazing.. Congrats!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: but a little thing about the body texture.. it looks like the skin has been dried out and became like this.. needs more moisture ;)

Sincerely

[bootchec]

awesome skin, just great ! keep goin'man :drool:

[miko77]

Mr Kamilchen! You have forgotten to make eyes..., haven't you? Is this last stage of your job? Without eyes Dwarf looks incomplete and soulless...
take care!
:buttrock:

[Vladvrz]

Oh cool.Looks like an old wise arse,kinda tough rugged dry type,nasty,but the model sure does look saweeeet.get the poor guy some eyes though,hehe,nice work.:p :thumbsup: :beer:

[Colin de bink]

hey Jelwa how is it going?
it has been 5 day since your last update
come on keep going :p :wip:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:wavey: Jelwa ..where are u man..don't dissapoint me..i am waiting for the final post of yours ....:wavey:

[Kozlov]

Hi,
thanks for support, after 2 days of holydays im back again, busy working.
@Acocan im still trying to mak it right. Thx
@Bootchec thank you
@MIko77 i made him simple wyes without textures but it didnt change his apperance, i have to wor on them more. That will be tomorow probably
@Vladvrz thx, im trying but still lots to come, the eyes, more textures and the transport ..and no time
@Colin im here alive updating another small step for a man but...
@Dimitris yeah its not the final not evan a pre final just a test but i will manage to finish it on time.Thx
Take care everyone
Kamil:beer: It stil needs a lot a lot a lot a lot.....of work
http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/skin4web.jpg

[Cyborgguineapig]

:beer: Very cool

[MelC]

hehe,nice,kinda ugly but thats a cool thing,give him some real killer eyes.Nice job overall here.:beer: :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Hi jelwa........Well this is one of my favorites.This little guy is quite a fun and interesting looking little guy.A bit ugly,but speacial in appearance,you won't miss him in a crowd.Quite fierce as well,looks pretty tough.Also a noble look in some way now that I look at him.like he really is a good guy fighting the good fight.:thumbsup:

I still think you should create a more sweat gleaned look to the texture,more wet,moist,not too much but a touch would really give him a more pliable flesh like look to the skin.

Also the veins are very nice....but....you knew there had to be a but.:p With veins you would want to gradually build up the height on the bump with lots of strokes so the vein is more rounded.

Use the smudge tool to pull out the ends of the vein so ou get more of a taper,which is more natural looking.You should also do a seperate bump texture in case you want to animate expressions later down the road.

I think you should also darken the area around the eyes a little,you want the eyes to be the thing that stands out..........Use the burn tool with a brush diameter of about 90-100 pixels.

You can change a light color on your bump textures to darker colors by using a new layer with a mulitiply layer blend.

One more thing you can try is to give an additional complimentary color to your existing color.It will really define your existing look.

The ears too are in need of more intense color,they are always more bright due to more blood that flows there.Set the brush color to RGB 160,130,50,or so,and paint small strokes across the tops of the wrinkles,they will be more noticable and much more saturated looking.Try a little more dark color to spice it up.

Also lighten the specularity texture by using exposures no greater than 50%.I think you have used higher levels by looking at your texture.It seems that the texture has a very sharp contrast,which makes the skin look a little too stone or wood like.

Well anyways it sounds like alot,but actually you are quite close,this model is already very good,in fact excellent,but it needs just that little more attention to these minor things,with this it will be spectacular I think.

get him to the finish line Jelwa,you are close,but already have a very very nice entry,I really like the whole guy very much.OK see you soon.:beer:

[Kozlov]

Woooaaaaa!
Virtuoso thanks for such useful tips you gave me. Im realy greatful. Now im quite in hurry cuz not much time left and there is a chance of not finishing the project.
This is a litle update please tell me what do you all think about the dwarf and his heir set up, the rest of the char are just temporary solutions, color and matyerials will change today. I forgot to add some enviromet map for reflections and it resulted in black color on the equipment so please take this under account:).
Im looking forward for hard crit so i could fix as much as i can. Thanks
Take care everyone and good luck
Kamilhttp://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/RENDERtest2.jpg http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/RENDERtest4.jpg

[Colin de bink]

ha amazing i just love the hair, especialy under his arms thats just briliant
hmm hard crits hey, I dont got any
a spec map for the skin? - still

[antnik]

Hey Jelwa..nothing to critic man...the only thing that i want from you is to finish the project. ;) Excellent work. :thumbsup: :beer:

[Steveyola]

This guy has come a long way,always something better.I still like to see more spec maps,or as mentioned above more gloss or shine to skin.But really this is a really good piece of work,I just like the character of this guy.Very good job.:thumbsup: :applause:

[genesis max]

Wow, man. All i can say is fantastic model, fantastic texturing and great lighting. Hair is also amazing, especially on the body, but i think on head longer, grey hair, because he is old guy, would better suit him. That's fantastic work, i just hope you finish this on time.
See you later :beer:

[Virtuoso]

You are just really good Jelwa...............you got style that few have.You got talent in modeling as well to high levels.Also your texturing is very good,we will talk more of that in the coming weeks as we talked of right...........;)

I like Genesis Max's thought on the hair,it should have grey,as he is a little older,mix it in.

The texturing has come along well,very close to perfect,we will get to it a bit more with more time after this challenge with our secret project.;)

All in all another of my favorite entries,very well done,you are quite talented,plus you got this certain cooool style that really is both fun and interesting.Keep it going a bit more.I will talk to you real soon.
:thumbsup:

[leigh]

Hey Jelwa :)

I tried replying to your email, but for some reason the email bounced back - there seems to be a problem with your mail server!

Anyway, since there is only a day or so left, and that means that time is precious, I thought I'd post what I said in my email regarding the specularity problem here in the forum...

I think I know exactly what your problem is - are you using just radiosity for your render? Because with many renderers, when you switch to global illumination radiosity types, it actually cancels out the lighting in your scene. And because of that, no specular highlights show up because the model is being lit by an environment and not actual lights. To counteract this, try using your specular map as a reflection map instead (in other words, instead of putting it in your specular channel, put it in your reflection one), and give it an environment to reflect. You might have to decrease the textures intensity so that it doesn't become mirror-like, but it works really well. In fact, skin generally looks a whole lot better when using reflection maps instead of specular maps ;)

Cheers and good luck! Let me know if you still need any help :)

[Kozlov]

HI, busy bees,

@Colin, @Antnik@Steveyola@Genesis_Max, thanks guys, guess what speculars are on the wey:)

@Virtuoso, you are simply to nice, so many nice words just dont know what to say. Yeah looking forward for tht project to start, and loking forward for some new updates of yours, i know you will put all the pieces on time and make everyone open eyes wide.
Good luck

@Leigh, you probably saved my life, it was a good decision to ask you for help, at first i wasnt sure if you'll reply on my e-mail since you probably get a lot of them. But you did and im greatfull you'v found the time. Take care Leigh big big thanks.
Kamil
:wavey:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

the last pic man looks superb ..i like the coloring on the hair...cmon Jelwa...i want to see it finished ...it's so cool guy..and that look on his face..:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[MelC]

Hey guy,come on finish,finish.Where is his animal,still coming?I hope.I like him,very nice work,funny too.but a little mean looking huh?
Thumbs up from me.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[leigh]

Glad to hear that you solved the problem, Jelwa :thumbsup:

Now where is the final render??! :D

[Kozlov]

Well here it is, but its not finished, i mean i had to stop rendering process cuz there were no time and the result was a half made render with black unrendered squers around so i had to do something about but i had only 15 min left, I opened PS and made those black thing to cover the squers. Im not happy with the result but it was the only way to be on time.
Take care and good luck everyone. I have to change my machine:)http://tgory.net/bootchec/ylva/final.jpg

[Kozlov]

HI,
just wanted to thank you all for continous support, its been my first chalange and i have to tell you that i have lerned a lot. Thanks Leigh again your very usful tip helped me to have speculars back. I hope that the next chalange i'll do lot better.
Take care:beer: :wavey:
Kamil

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hi...u 've done a great job on your character Jelwa!!! ..and i really would like to see u and in other challenges....have fun!!!...always!

[leigh]

That came out nicely, Jelwa :thumbsup: Glad that I was of some help! Good luck for the voting, and I hope to see you in the next challenge!

[Colin de bink]

hi Jelwa great result
im glad you made it in time :thumbsup:

[Magnusv]

This was a fine result,too bad for lack of time,you could have had more ,scene and animal for the guy.But still this was a very good character.Well done. :thumbsup: :beer:

[Virtuoso]

I just think you did great.I love the ol' guy.A real great entry,one of the elite in my opinion.And I know in everyone elses mind as well.

Hey Jelwa you know your Dwarf can hang out with my Scalawag clan anytime,Frumpy and the rest of them told me so.;)

Excellent work.And we have to talk very soon about that little plan of ours.:p

Again a great time watching you create him as well.And thanks for your support in my thread.Talk to you very very soon.

:applause:

[Kozlov]

HI,
@Leigh,@Colin,@Dimitris@Magnusv and @Virtuoso big thanks. I just wish i had more time...but nekxt chalange ill plan better or we wil plan better in the co-project.
Thanks again
Good luck everyone
Kamil:beer: :thumbsup: :wavey:

[antnik]

Hey Jelwa.. Nice to meet you man. I ll see you in the next challenge. Have a nice holliday. :wavey:

[stenarts]

:beer:

He is very cool!

STEN :thumbsup:

[Kozlov]

Hey, its i think the last time im here:),
Thanks for suport guys
@Antnik...and it was a pleasure to meet you:) See'ya soon
@Sten thanks, your work is wery stymulating, inspiring just great. I love your drowings i would also like to read the comic book i hope i will find it in the stores.
Take care good luck to all of your amazing team.
Kamil:applause:

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