Cinematic Game Icons - Character - 3DZealot

[Equinoxx]

are we FINALLY gonna see some of your work :surprised

hehe j/k kidding mate.

all the luck to ya on this challenge :)

have fun.

[Xilica]

sweet 3DZ, i finally get to see you in action ;) :buttrock:

best of luck just like Equinoxx said :beer:

[Dave Black]

Thanks guys. This could be kinda fun.

Eh hem...And, Mr. Equinoxx, where exactly is YOUR entry?! I see how it is. Too good for us now. :cry:

But that's ok. We shall rise above your evil tyranny and smash the bounds of our oppression...or...something like that.

Again, sketches in the works. If you all laugh at 'em, I'll cry.

-3DZ

:D

[Viper]

He enters! So we finally get to see you in action? :D

Anyway, I might enter this one aswell...good luck guys :)

[Dave Black]

Ok, here's my first sketch. Just toying with some ideas right now. I'm keeping him all nice and mysterious for now so I can figure out what to do with 'em.

Gonna try a few more ideas, then make a character sheet before I hit the verts.

More to come. And remember: I'm work'n on my 2D skills, so be gentle. Forgive the crappy scan. It's late, and I just can't care.

http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/CGT_ICON_Sketch1.jpg

[Equinoxx]

solid :cool:

[Nicodemia]

Very nice sketch. :eek: I love the segmented fingers. Just ink this up and you can submit this! Its cinematic already. Can't wait to see more.

[erilaz]

Great stuff 3dZealot. I expect some funky sub-d stuff after all the effort put into your theory thread.:D

[Dave Black]

Gee, thanks guys. So much nice encouragement. Not sure how much Sub-D stuff I'm going to be using here, but I'm sure I'll have some fun implementing new techniques. Remember that I learned as much from the Sub-D thread as I've contributed.

I'm gonna work on some more sketches today. Hopefully will post more tonight.

Thanks again for all the encouragement. Means alot...sniff...sniff.

-3DZ

:D

[iC4]

cool concept :buttrock:

[CamillaGem]

Good luck, 3DZealot.:thumbsup:

[LordDubu]

Reminds me of Ninjak a little. Can't wait to see this guy in 3D.

[Solesurvivor]

his hands remind me of scryed, exact the same segmented hands, but looks promising though:)

[Dave Black]

Well poop. Don't want to look like something else. I'll have to look that guy up so that I can change 'em to be more original.

Of course, my subject matter is not exactly the most original idea on the planet. Hopefully a few twists will work it out. Of course, this is just the first sketch...can't really see the rest of 'em can ya?! Hehe.

Thanks for the input guys. I'll keep it in mind.

-3DZ

:D

[LordDubu]

There's nothing wrong with looking similar to something that exists. Solomon said it, Shakespeare quoted it: "There's nothing new under the sun"

[Nicodemia]

Originally posted by 3DZealot
I'll have to look that guy up so that I can change 'em to be more original.


KEEP THE HANDS. THEY ROCK! :airguitar

[Starv]

Will be fun to see some work of yours that isn't an animated gif for a change! :bounce: :p

Concept sketch looks great. :thumbsup:

updates!!

[Dave Black]

Oh, I see how it is. Fine, no more animated .gifs for you! ;)

I'm currently doing a metric buttload of character studies. I'm planning out everything on paper this time to ensure a speedy modeling session with enough time left for rigging and possibly textures.

I'm going on vacation at the end of the month, so I'll have to scramble to get 'em done...

Anyway, thanks for all the encouragement and I'll be posting some new stuff soon.

-3DZ

:D

[LordDubu]

I'm in the same boat as you, I'm taking vacation right around deadline time so I have to get this and the 80 bazillion other projects I have going done in time for that.

Quick quesiton though... we don't -have- to rig the characters right? I mean the goal here is to create the character and render at a cinematic level?

[Dave Black]

Oh no, man, we don't have to rig them. Or texture them.

It's implied that a rigged/posed character is more visually appealing than one that is not, but it's not a requirement.

Do to the complexity of my character(just in the amount of detail I've got going on right now)(oh yeah, and that's a pretty extreme pose I've got going there too), I'm going to have to rig him. Also, I'd like to animate him later, and I know if I don't do it now, it probably won't happen for a while.

Don't sweat it, man. No rigging needed!

-3DZ

:D

[Kid-Mesh]

Just had to post a comment about the sketch work... that looks really cool... I dig that style.

Good Luck!

[dominicqwek]

Go on..dont keep us waiting now!! we want a screenshot. :D

[Dave Black]

Thanks for all the encouragement and support, guys. It really means alot to me.

I had a chance to play around tonight with some of the overall design features of my character. I have'nt added details yet, and the hands are just place-holders, but I thought I'd be a good challenger and share.

Again, please take it easy on my about my drawing skills, as there are very much in need of improvement. I hope to start modeling mid-week.

http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/CGT_ICON_Sketch2.jpg

-3DZ

:D

[dominicqwek]

hey, whats wrong with your drawings? they look great to me.:thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Yes I agree with Dom............very nice drawings indeed.:thumbsup:

Plus the idea/style is conveyed very nicely. This will be very interesting and fun to see develope.I can only say now you have a fine foundation,it looks like it has lots of potential to be a very nice 3D model.I'll try and give a suggestion or two later on the modeling, but for now I'll just say very nice start on a promising model.See you soon,have fun...................Oh and by the way,I love the idea of going for a full on rig,it really pays in the end,not just for animation,but for the stills as well. See you for now.................:thumbsup: :beer:

[Dave Black]

Gosh, thanks guys. :D

You all are too kind....hehe...don't stop.

:beer:

Dom: Thanks so much, man.

Virtuoso: Thanks for the input and encouragement. I look forward to your thoughts as my model developes.

Be back later with more stuff.

-3DZ

:D

[LordDubu]

Zealot, he's looking tight, and now that I see where you're going with him, he doesn't actually remind me of ninjack anymore. Love those arms!

[urgaffel]

Toight, very toight ;)

Work faster.

[Xilica]

Sweet!!

Keep it up 3DZ:beer:

[StateTheObvious]

where is his neck?

[Dave Black]

His neck? Um...Oh, it's there...really....it...uh....is..

*waves hand*

These are not the droids you are looking for...move along...move along....

-3DZ

:D

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: 3DZealot..your drawing looks great man and if succeed in the 3D recreation of this muscular last pose...i really will be able to see a great - great model....:bounce:


...i am waiting...stop reading the post and get to work...lol :thumbsup:

[cgbinho]

WOOoo cool chracter!! can't be good fight with a ninjalike guy with those hands... :buttrock:
now I'M signing up your thread :beer:

[Joebount]

3d, 3D ,3DDDDDDDDDD !!! WHERE ARE YOOOUUuuuuu ... ?
:beer:

[Zixe]

Yes, this challeng looks like its going to be neat looking :thumbsup:

[Gamoron]

Nice job man. Good sketch. Tell me when are you going to put some media on your site? It's always under construction when I go there.

[Dave Black]

Urg: Still wait'n on your entry, dude!!! Eh hem... :D

Xilica: You rock! Thanks!!

DimitrisLiatsos: Thanks a ton, man!

Joebount: Ask and you shall recieve!

Zixe: I sure hope so! Thanks for the encouragement!!!

Gamoron: I'll have some stuff up on my site soon, but it's a bit of a pain as I'm under a pretty harsh NDA right now. Thanks for the interest, as it really means alot coming from you. :thumbsup:


UPDATE!
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Ok. Started modeling tonight. Just fleshing out the head. And yes, he has no ears. I hate doing ears, and it's past my bedtime. :D

He'l get a proper set soon.

Lemme know what you think...but...er...be easy on me. This is the first model I've ever shown on CGTalk.

http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_2.jpg
http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_1.jpg

Again, best of luck on all your challenge entries!!

:beer:

-3DZ

:D

[cgbinho]

i noticed he has a bit of a sad look.. dunno if you're going this way, but i like what you have so far!!
keep going!!! :bounce:

[Equinoxx]

OMG 3dz, it's so good to finally see the skills of the skipper.

this one's gonna be good for sure :buttrock:

carry on.

[Hexodam]

great looking head :D

could you post a wire for us to admire ;)

btw, isnt his face going to be covered?
doing the same as I did, modeled a head and then oh yeaah the mask

[Kozlov]

Hi 3DZealot,
thats realy nice developing model you have there. It looks great so far so keep going. I know thats it's i an erly stage but i would like to make a suggestion, namely the eye in my opinion should be a bit deeper inside the head but thats me:).
Ill keep an eye on your progress
Take care and good luck with the chalange:thumbsup: :beer:
Kamil

[Dave Black]

cgbinho: Your right that he has a sad look about him, but that will change soon. It's just my first night's work. Great nick, btw. I just got it.

Equinoxx: 'Noxx, you rock! Thanks so much. You are too kind.

Hexodam: I decided to model the head because a good portion of his face is visible through the mask, and I want him to be able to take it off. :D

Jelwa: Thanks for the encouragement! As for your suggestion, it is dually noted. The last 2 things I wanted to do last night, were to move his eyes further into his face, and then to push them closer together. It's the top 2 things that are bugging me right now. Good eye, man. Thanks again!

-3DZ

:D

[CamillaGem]

Very impressive, 3DZealot. I like the eyes... the face looks sort of Balkan or Scandinavian, I think. I really like the bone structure. And nice nose, Adam's apple, chin, lines about the mouth. I can tell you didn't fudge this!

Great job! Keep it up!

[Wilson-3d]

Hi. Your one quick modeler. It looks good. Looking foreward to more!

[Dave Black]

Thanks guys!

More coming soon!

This challenge is becoming really fun. Thanks for all the encouragement and crits.

Best of luck on your own challenge entries!

:beer:

-3DZ

:D

[dominicqwek]

Update!!! :bounce: Cmon, dont keep us waiting. :D

[Gamoron]

I can't believe you're going to model this when he's covered up. Good thing though. :thumbsup: Keep it going full steam!
:beer:

[Leesee]

Ok my thoughts: Nice concept,:thumbsup:

Nice modeling.But you should give a bit more of a cheerful look,but that all depends on what you are going for I quess.The eyes too should be brought out forward too.Still you got something nice here overall,hope you keep it going to the end.:beer:

[Dave Black]

Thanks everyone!

I finally got around to working on my entry again last night. So, here is the results of my second modeling session. Not a whole lot of detail, but I don't want to over do it when his face is mostly going to be obscured. Maybe one more detail pass before going on to the body, props, and costume. Ignore his neck, as I just started on it.

Anyway. Here's the update! (Special thanks to Dom for getting my rear in gear last night :D):

http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_3.jpg
http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_4.jpg

Thanks for all the encouragement, and again, best of luck on your entries!

-3DZ

:D

[stenarts]

hey cool, reminds me a bit of Arnold Schwarzenegger...really interesting to see the process from skecth on to the 3d visualization....

Great ;-)

[Kid-Mesh]

Wow...this is turning out to be excellent! Good luck:buttrock:

[Nicodemia]

I agree stenarts. there's a definite 'arnie'-ness about him. I love it! Cant wait for the armour. Come on! GO!GO!GO!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup:

[Dave Black]

Thanks guys!

Gotta move those ears forward a bit now that I look at it. I always seem to messup a major proportion when I'm working late at night.:shrug:

-3DZ

:D

[Neox]

great work so far, but 2 points :p

- I think that ear is too "blobby" und some things are not like on a human ear

- his sternomastoid looks a little weird


but great so far!

go on Master of SDS :D

[LordDubu]

Well Zealot you've inspired me... errr indirectly that is.

You're doing so much facial geometry for a character who will wear a helmet. My character on the other hand, has a helmet but will hardly ever wear it.

Er go if I am to keep up with the joneses (the zealots) then I should by prudence model the helmet for my character who never wears it, so as not to be shone up by the guy who models a face for a character who wears his...

oh my head hurts now.

[Dave Black]

Thanks guys!

Hehe...Dubu, I can't stop laughing....

Just to interject something about why I'm modeling this full head:

I work at a company making very stylized, highly upbeat catoony stuff. I'm absolutly bored to tears with it( been doing it too long), and I just wanted to have some fun...Plus, this is more my "style".

So don't think I'm crazy. Just bored. :D

As for the "arnold" look...I began noticing this as well. Hope it's not a detraction. Sadly, if I had used arnold references, it would look less like him...hehe. I'll tweak it a bit so it does'nt look like him as much.

As for his sternomastoid, Mr. Neox, I just dragged some edges down and shmooshed the verts for about a minute...so...yeah...it does look wierd. I'll get to fixing that soon. Thanks for the input. Also, his ear ain't done. I'm just debating whether or not to add the proper levels of detail as noone will ever see 'em...

Thanks again, guys!

-3DZ

:D

[LordDubu]

Originally posted by 3DZealot
I work at a company making very stylized, highly upbeat catoony stuff. I'm absolutly bored to tears with it( been doing it too long), and I just wanted to have some fun...Plus, this is more my "style".

Count yer blessings dude. Your bored working in an industry I'd give my left thumb, or at least up to the second knuckle anyway to work in. As it is I'm bored out of -my- mind programming asp pages for an incredibly unappreciative manager.

[dominicqwek]

yeah 3dZ i know what u mean, u should count yourself lucky that u get to work with any form of cg animation. It aint as good where i am:shrug:

What can i say?! Nice model dude. :D apart from what has been said by others, i feel that his chin can be worked on, it could afford a bit more detail.

*hicks! :beer:

[ChrRambow]

I like your concept very much ... cannot wait to see more of your progress. Good luck to your entry too :thumbsup:

cheers,
Christian

[Xilica]

THIS IS SWEET!!!

i haven't seen any of your skills at work but due to this thread i'm seein' them in live performance :beer:

[Martypt]

Thsi is some pretty fancy work,I like his rather sad expression somehow,Ithink just a small adjustment to ears and more work and it will be real good.:thumbsup:

[KolbyJukes]

Man that's a dense mesh, does it really need to be that dense?

-Kol.

[Dave Black]

Thanks, guys.

KWAK: Um, it's not really that dense. Believe me when I say the control cage is quite low-poly. :D

To everyone who commented on the ears: I'll get back to 'em later if there's time. I normally like to do a final detail pass, but due to my tight schedule, and the sheer lack of modeling/texturing/rigging nights I have left, the ears will have to wait. Right now I'm just trying to develop the character and blockout the overall shapes.

3rd night of modeling. Hopefully I'll get alot done this week. Modeling was way slow tonight, as I'd been doing it all day at work and my brain just was'nt motivated. Here's a few screenshots of what I'm working on:

http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_6.jpg
http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_7.jpg
http://www.3dzealot.com/cgt_challenge/Stage1_8.jpg

Thanks for look'n, and again, best of luck on your entries!

-3DZ

:D

[Kozlov]

Hi there 3DZealot,
it looks great, i like his face this kind of sad look, long neck and muscles. Its going good but still a lot to do so waiting for some more updates on your progress.
Take care and good luck to you as wall.
:beer: :thumbsup:
Kamil

[Virtuoso]

Looking nice.:thumbsup: It's got potential written all over it.I think it's one of the best thus far in a very good field here. I think you should have tons of motivation because this guy has great Portfoilio piece all over it.

Now three words for you...............More,more ,more...........


:thumbsup: :beer:

[Lordrych]

Hey 3dzealot, I like it the only problem I think is his Adams apple it looks like a big goiter on his neck!!! Otherwise looks Fantastic.

Rych

[jmcalpin]

wow, great model

jason

[akocan]

hi there 3DZ.

Nice modelling. Love the face. Very charismatic.

Do you use nurbs or polygon modelling?

Sincerely
:bounce: :bounce:

[Dave Black]

Jelwa: Thanks, man, I'm on it. You guys are keeping em going. :D

Virtuoso: :love: You guys are just the best. Really nice thing to say...though I have'nt a chance against you. :D


Lordrych:

LOL! Well...er...I really am planning on fixing it. I just kinda have alot of his features there as place-holders right now. I want to see what I can get away with once he's all covered up. Thanks though, you're dead-on.

jmcalpin: Thanks, man! :D

akocan: Glad you like the face. It's growing on me. Oh, and I'm using polys with Max R5. I know it looks funny, but I've gotten away from box-modeling for a bit. I just place every poly by hand. Gives me more control.

Thanks again, everyone!

-3DZ

:D

[Viper]

Looking good mate! Really good :)

Could you supply us with a lowpoly wireframe? :bounce:

[Scribe2Knight]

Knowing utterly nothing about the tec. side of what it is that you do Zealot, and don't try and explain it to me, I'm all ready dizzy this week, I'm going just post a reaction here.

Gut reaction, what I take away from this so-not-finished character as someone that is 'outside' the medium looking in, is that this character is one that I love the most: the sacrificing hero.

The sadness in him comes across almost as a weighed action, not yet done. The sergent that throws himself ontop of a live grenade so his men are saved. The one that jumps into the bullet to save his buddy, so the buddy can go home even though he won't be. The one that leaves his people and goes and does the impossible, and it costs him everything. But then he knew he wasn't coming back from when he left.

You hooked me, you made me wanna know more, and you did it with the lines in his face. He's not perfect, but then who wants perfect in a character?

[Amir]

First of all, thank you for your kind words, I hope I'm equal to the task (eh, who cares, I'm having to much fun:D ).
Very powerful character you have here. He has, what I can only describe as - PRESENCE. Love what you did to the eyes, they were the first thing I looked at when I first saw the model. If I may, just one word of advise - let the concept lead the moddeling
and not vise versa (hope I was not out of line here, after all, I am the new guy):thumbsup:

[urgaffel]

I want updates! And the adams apple is too big :)

Looking great so far, so... Give us more ;)

(Those nipples look deadly btw :D)

[Xilica]

!!!

3DZ this is looking pro :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[CamillaGem]

Hi, 3DZealot.

I like the update a lot. Great job! The muscles look lean and clean, that's nice. I think it's easier to make bulky and excessive... what you did takes more hard work and skill, imho.:wavey:

[Hexodam]

extremely nice:applause:

could you post a unsmoothed wire for us to .. oogle at :)

[dominicqwek]

ooooohh. :drool:

looks like things are going good! :thumbsup: really do hope to see more updates!

[edaddy]

good job 3DZ, no crits at the moment ....

[antnik]

Clean and good work. :thumbsup: Keep going.:thumbsup:

[rremzie]

very impressive :buttrock:

[JeT]

i agree with Hexodam, can you post unsmoothed wireframe zealot?

i liked the concepts, not sure of the background that he is trying not to fall into.. is that like space with planets or something? keep going :)

[Dave Black]

I'll post some wires tonight if I get the chance. I've gotta suspend work on my entry for now as I've got a ton going on. But, I will finish it, just might not meet the deadline.

It's funny, my wife says the same thing about the concept. I meant for him to look really sneaky, like he just crested the top of a cliff and is peering around at the enemy. I did'nt make a background, as I envisioned it as a night scene, and he's high up enough that you can't see the ground. The moons in the BG were just to denote that he ain't on earth. I'll be sure to work harder on the composition of my concepts to better explain where I'm coming from. Again, my 2d skills are sorely lacking, so it's an upward battle. If I wanted him to look like he was falling off, I'd have picked a more dynamic/dramatic viewpoint as well as have more motion in the sketch. Rocks flying, cloth blowing. That type of thing.

Thanks for all the encouragement and crits, guys. I hope I can at least deliver him at 60% by the deadline. I probably won't have time to rig him either. I budgeted enough time, but with work and my upcoming vacation, I'll just have to settle on not completing it by the DL. It may make a neat work for the WIP section later, though.

Thanks again!

-3DZ

:D

[Marcinko]

Great model..don't like the eyes ( at least the iris action there) and the adams apple...Your way better than I am though...I am probably mistaken.

[rob-beddall]

hey!!

jeeeeezus, he's got nips like ships rivets.

that is all.

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