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borroriow
08-24-2008, 11:38 PM
Hi, I made these images last week. Used pencil only.
They are intended to be for a game about pre-historic tribes, just early concepts.

I would like you to criticize it, not only in the concept matter, but also the technique and anatomy. Constructive and destructive critics are welcome.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1185/beteenhow3vs5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1185/beteenhow3vs5.bd86c0d61e.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=404&i=beteenhow3vs5.jpg)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6563/beteenhow4yz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6563/beteenhow4yz4.a2ed168991.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=141&i=beteenhow4yz4.jpg)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8344/beteenhowmr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8344/beteenhowmr5.4b737081ee.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=240&i=beteenhowmr5.jpg)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2089/betenhow2hm1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2089/betenhow2hm1.035ae8b68d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=240&i=betenhow2hm1.jpg)

UmmTheHobo
08-25-2008, 03:33 AM
I am not an expert on anatomy but I am pretty sure the head is a bit big on the last one. All the others look fantastic (then again I don't know much about anatomy :P).

borroriow
08-25-2008, 04:18 AM
I am not an expert on anatomy but I am pretty sure the head is a bit big on the last one. All the others look fantastic (then again I don't know much about anatomy :P).

hi, thanks for the reply. I forgot to mention this, but the big head was intentional (but that doesnt mean the result was harmonic) in order to make the character relate better to others that are smaller than him. do you think I overdid it?

also, I'd like to say that you dont need to be an anatomy expert to see what's strange with a drawing :thumbsup:

shapemaster
08-25-2008, 09:45 AM
hi

well ... since you asked for it, im gonna give some destructive critic :twisted:

looking at your 4 drawings id say you do know some stuff about anatomy. for instance, the big head in the first pic and the legs in the 2nd pic look pretty solid. then again, the other drawings arent that great in terms of anatomy. but it might as well be intentional ... i cant tell by looking at only 4 pics.
about the concept ... i dont mean to sound rude, but it doesnt really seem like concept art to me, looks just like some random doodles. ^^
also, the characters look quite generic with the tarzan aprons and wood sticks, they lack personality or something interesting, it surely wont hurt to bring in something unique.

yeah ... so i hope i could help you a bit - no hard feelings, okay? :) actually, you have great start here, i was just pointing out the weak points.

peace

Kanga
08-25-2008, 12:24 PM
Looks like you have a good eye for perspective!
Only thing I would crit is to echo shapemaster about the designs. I think the toughest thing about character design is to get the figure to tell a story. Seems the best game figures have a very recognisable shiloette (something I am going to pay alot more attention to in the future). Not only do the assets have to be expressive but also the posture of the character seems to play an important role. Check out the character designs for the latest Conan game which you can google. See the techniques used and try apply some.

Nice work mate,... looking forward to seeing more.
Cheerio Chris

borroriow
08-25-2008, 06:11 PM
Hi, thank you all for the replies, and I must say I feel the samething, but I dont know how to solve these problems, could you give some hints on the design part?


some anatomy studies, I'd like to receive critics, destructive or constructive

(http://imageshack.us)
[img=http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9471/img3876ys7.b48f287a26.jpg] (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=47&i=img3876ys7.jpg)

[IMG]http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9463/img3878av1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9463/img3878av1.b404007168.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=179&i=img3878av1.jpg)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8250/img3879xo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8250/img3879xo4.e45f6b4939.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=179&i=img3879xo4.jpg)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6661/img3880ed1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6661/img3880ed1.cdc44508d3.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=90&i=img3880ed1.jpg)

in this one, I tried to improve the last drawing, giving some more attention to the clothing, scars and "jewels" to show that he is an experienced hunter, critics are welcome

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/686/img3882ma8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/686/img3882ma8.3d3f0e7606.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=90&i=img3882ma8.jpg)

Kanga
08-26-2008, 12:50 AM
Looks like it is going well :)
Just check out the best work you can find and analyise what you find works and steer away from what you dont like but always ask yourself why.

Keep it up
Chris

NR43
08-29-2008, 07:55 AM
I think since you are working on prehistoric characters, you should defenitely try a lot of different ornamentation... keep going at that.
The claw scar is also very nice... makes him look like a hunter... perhaps a sharp stone as a weapon could emphasize this even more.

Strong stuff, keep posting!

borroriow
09-27-2008, 05:37 AM
Here is one new image, it's a sketch

should I post it at other area of the forum?

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5232/preview1qh6.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preview1qh6.jpg)

borroriow
09-29-2008, 12:29 AM
no comments? no critics? :/

If anyone have a suggestion...
I feel my work lacks something, but I can't understand what is it

Kanga
09-29-2008, 07:36 PM
http://forums.cgsociety.org/search.php?searchid=960695

This is part of the reason you are getting few responses.
This is a forum where we help each other out. Even out of common decency each person who posted on your thread should receive a post from you. After that you should hit the reply list and inverse arrow and help out posters who never get a reply from anyone at all. Just to make you feel good:)

borroriow
09-29-2008, 08:17 PM
Iīm sorry, I didnt understand the mechanics of the forum. I thought I couldnt post replies just sayin "thank you", "I will take care of that"... I read the recommendations and they said itīs a professional forum, and whatever.

I really didnt mean to ignore the feedback, just was afraid to get banned or something like that.

thank you, I will try to be a better user

TedNindo
09-29-2008, 08:27 PM
hey you have some nice studys. I like the man from behind crouching. That looks really nice.
For your prehistoryc character you could add some body hairs that would make him look more like a real cave man.

Just a thought

borroriow
09-30-2008, 02:30 AM
Yeah, I liked that study, itīs based on a burne hogarthīs drawing, trying to understand the line flowing, that guy was a genius

by the way, thanks for the suggestion about the hair, can you believe I didnt even think about that? haha

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