View Full Version : Pea Soup, Drazenka Kimpel (2D)
Picky 08-06-2008, 02:04 PM http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/37961/37961_1218031448_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/37961/37961_1218031448_large.jpg)
Title: Pea Soup
Name: Drazenka Kimpel
Country: USA
Software: Photoshop
Finally done! It's been 4 years since I wrote notes on this idea. I was surprised how fresh the picture still was in my mind. It took about 3 weeks to complete it due to work and transfering the file from work to home and back again on the thumb drive. On the top of it all, I was getting used to Mac, which only added more headeache.
Anyways, I have used many references here. I modeled for the girl and fauns were referenced from few pictures of children playing.
Here are more details:
http://www.creativedust.com/hpr/PSdetail1.jpg
http://www.creativedust.com/hpr/PSdetail2.jpg
http://www.creativedust.com/hpr/PSdetail3.jpg
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LadyPurple
08-06-2008, 04:39 PM
Beautiful work, bravo! :thumbsup:
leocda
08-06-2008, 05:50 PM
You draw really well.
The girl is so real ...
You have made a so realistc work in foreground, maybe you could make the fire (background left) more real too.
Picky
08-06-2008, 06:07 PM
Valentina, thank you so much for your kind words. ;)
Leonardo, thanks for your feedback. I must admit I had trouble getting the fire to look good and real. I have tried many different approaches and it just didn't look well. If any one of you has a tip on how to improve the fire effect, then please don' t be shy and let me know.:hmm:
leocda
08-06-2008, 06:35 PM
Leonardo, thanks for your feedback. I must admit I had trouble getting the fire to look good and real. I have tried many different approaches and it just didn't look well. If any one of you has a tip on how to improve the fire effect, then please don' t be shy and let me know.:hmm:
Picky,
By my humble knowledge about math and physics concerning fire, I could say in a intuitive way: a real fire has a kind of chaotic geometric distribution of flames and a gradient directed overlap of colors (from white to red, passing thru yellow).
If my free source code was ready, maybe you would like to try its texture synthesizer, since it can draw a nice fire (I hope). My portfolio even has a tiger made of flames that I created to test.
Anyway, I'm sure there are very skilled artists here who can give you tips to draw a beautiful fire by hand.
Nevertheless, I would like to praise your work again, since by this piece I think you are one of the top master human body drawers I have ever known.
Keep working so well! :bowdown:
josh-o-matic
08-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Your hard work has really paid off, this is great. =)
ianruff
08-06-2008, 08:22 PM
This is just stunning. Fantastic detail. Love the concept and execution.
Picky
08-06-2008, 08:27 PM
Leonardo, thank you for the effort to help me out. I will take it upon myself and atempt to get the fire to look more realistic.
Joshua and Ian, thanks for such nice coments:)
kisalon
08-06-2008, 08:56 PM
lovely work.. such a serenity comes from it. It reminds like a traditional painting! Thanks for showing the details as well :)
sirielle
08-06-2008, 10:11 PM
Fantastic illustration, I love the idea of little playful fauns! My only crit is - the girl is rendered so realistically and sharp in focus, the little fellows should be done as detailed as she is,for they are in the same focus field (if that's the proper name - should be equally sharp).
Regarding fire - this article should help: Painting fire - the theory (http://hot-lead.org/advance/fire_theory.htm). Colours from yellow to orange, no reds in reality,but on some images reds give interesting effect, too. And if you use Painter try the glow brush - but your fire must be on the canvas layer - choose dark brown (orange hues) and go over your canvas. There must be some equivalent of this brush in Photoshop, maybe custom, but that's not the same as dodge tool. I didn't achieve a perfect fire shape on my image (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=600134) (my flames are still not realistic), but the fire is quite good - done with a mixture of glow brush, airbrushing and smudge brushes. As Dianae said some more sharp shapes would add more realism to that one.
leocda
08-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Regarding fire - this article should help: Painting fire - the theory (http://hot-lead.org/advance/fire_theory.htm). Colours from yellow to orange, no reds in reality,but on some images reds give interesting effect, too. And if you use Painter try the glow brush - but your fire must be on the canvas layer - choose dark brown (orange hues) and go over your canvas. There must be some equivalent of this brush in Photoshop, maybe custom, but that's not the same as dodge tool. I didn't achieve a perfect fire shape on my image (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=600134) (my flames are still not realistic), but the fire is quite good - done with a mixture of glow brush, airbrushing and smudge brushes. As Dianae said some more sharp shapes would add more realism to that one.
Nice tutorial, sirielle. It's incomplete, but still very useful.
Like I studied a lot of Chemistry/Physics in College, I will try to give to all you a nice information concerning fire: there are MANY colors of fire. It depends mainly of WHAT are you firing. Most of organic substances (paper, wood, oil) give fire going from white to dark orange, but several hydrocarbons make red fire in top of flames. For example: some kinds of salts (ionic substances), when heated, can give blue fire, or even of other colors.
The tutorial is right -> fire is ALWAYS white in origin (combustion center).
Usually you don't need to worry about what you are firing. Common people usually only imagine fire like flames made of white/yellow/orange/red. So, if you are drawing fire, it's a good idea make it using this palette. This way, it's more likely people will "understand" your fire as you would like.
A lot of people draw fire as if it was drawing a plant bush. It's very wrong in my opinion. Without the geometric disturb (chaos component) and color reentrance probably there is no "real" fire.
lynch
08-07-2008, 01:18 AM
i like the girl and the character on the table especially but it think the peas being at the same distance away fro us as the girl should not be so blurred , even though the background is futher back i think you could do some very interesting things with a sharper approach
ShogunWarrior
08-07-2008, 03:31 AM
masterpiece at work, 5 stars keep it up.
gingi
08-07-2008, 05:27 AM
this one suprised me out of my chair - so reallifelike, wow! 5* and cheers for a stunning shot!
what really gives it another level is the level of space and room description!
:buttrock:
Robat
08-07-2008, 05:36 AM
Wow .. good work..
KseniaYakushina
08-07-2008, 06:14 AM
amazing work! they are so cute and funny!) great work on details!)
Littlelizard
08-07-2008, 08:52 AM
Wow amazing, very professional!
MoonVisionStudio
08-07-2008, 11:16 AM
The girl is a masterpiece! As others have mentioned the background isnt quite to the same level. Still a fantastic image. Congrats! :buttrock:
Picky
08-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Fantastic illustration, I love the idea of little playful fauns! My only crit is - the girl is rendered so realistically and sharp in focus, the little fellows should be done as detailed as she is,for they are in the same focus field (if that's the proper name - should be equally sharp).
Regarding fire - this article should help: Painting fire - the theory (http://hot-lead.org/advance/fire_theory.htm). Colours from yellow to orange, no reds in reality,but on some images reds give interesting effect, too. And if you use Painter try the glow brush - but your fire must be on the canvas layer - choose dark brown (orange hues) and go over your canvas. There must be some equivalent of this brush in Photoshop, maybe custom, but that's not the same as dodge tool. I didn't achieve a perfect fire shape on my image (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=600134) (my flames are still not realistic), but the fire is quite good - done with a mixture of glow brush, airbrushing and smudge brushes. As Dianae said some more sharp shapes would add more realism to that one.
Sirelle,
Thanks for your insightful note. I have painted the fauns as well as I could being careful not to under or over paint them. I still wanted the girl to be the main focal point. I actually think I should have painted them less sharp since they are the imaginative characters....
As far as fire - thanks for the link to the theory. I will check it out and get to work on modifying the image as soon as I can.
Morano
08-07-2008, 12:02 PM
comapreing to photo-realistic face , flames a the fireplace looks silly , at least cartoonish. Otherwise the athmosphere and humor is just sweet ,remebers me Grimms or Andersens books from my childhood
Picky
08-07-2008, 12:10 PM
Jason, thanks for the coment. The peas do look a bit blurry but I guess it's due to the image compression and size. The whole painting is quite large in it's original size, so many of the details are lost.
Peter, Lauri, Saleh, Ksenia, Simona - thank you!;)
Jose, Thank you for your critique.
Picky
08-07-2008, 12:15 PM
comapreing to photo-realistic face , flames a the fireplace looks silly , at least cartoonish. Otherwise the athmosphere and humor is just sweet ,remebers me Grimms or Andersens books from my childhood
Hey Tomasz, thanks. I am glad at least to give you a bit of childhood flashback :)
nwiz25
08-07-2008, 04:40 PM
astounding! :eek: everything is so beautiful! .. lighting .. mood .. colour .. personality ..
love it! :love: 5 stars for you! :bounce:
rocketmaestro
08-07-2008, 04:46 PM
5 stars from me! Speechless!
waheednasir
08-07-2008, 05:14 PM
very interesting piece, nicely arranged/composed, the palette too. good work...:).
Caelicorn
08-08-2008, 03:14 AM
I love this theme! Gorgeous colours...I agree with the above comments on the fire, however. I think also the perspectives on the floor/table etc seem a bit wonky. But the girl is AWESOME
chokata
08-08-2008, 08:55 AM
Beautiful work! :)
Picky
08-08-2008, 01:43 PM
Neville, Al - thank you a bunch
Waheed - Much appreciated
Rochelle - The floor tile and the position of the table was done purposly. Although, it might look a bit off the place, it is not necessary to have the table positioned simetrically with the tiles. I appreciate and welcome your comment with open arms :wavey:
Oleg - Thank you!
Laurore
08-10-2008, 09:41 AM
Wow!great work..looks like a Bouguereau painting!congrats..and ofcourse 5*
CGaturist
01-20-2009, 02:29 PM
amazing work man. great:D
keep it up
Mohsen\
telene
10-25-2009, 04:09 AM
There's a really simple & (I think) great tutorial on painting fire on Deviant Art:
http://vortexismyname.deviantart.com/art/How-to-paint-fire-tutorial-82811278
Just to chime in with that part of this thread. Still, fire shmire! The foreground is beautiful, and I love the mood of the image. Yay!
Picky
10-26-2009, 01:06 PM
There's a really simple & (I think) great tutorial on painting fire on Deviant Art:
http://vortexismyname.deviantart.com/art/How-to-paint-fire-tutorial-82811278
Just to chime in with that part of this thread. Still, fire shmire! The foreground is beautiful, and I love the mood of the image. Yay!
Thank you telene. Sure is an interesting and useful tutorial. By now, I have checked so many of the flame tutorials thanks to everybody who posted them. I have redone the flames on this painting, which can be seen in my online gallery.
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