CGTalk - Animation: "Like A Snack Out Of Hell"

Gingerhammer

05-30-2003, 11:36 PM

There's something about your character that doesn't appeal to me - it's a bit like a low poly game character or something and I just don't like to see them in short animations.

Also, I find the constant stop-start pacing of the film a bit irritating. I know it's the extreme sports style but I think if it was a little subtler, it might be a bit more pleasant to watch?

I've got tonnes of short animations on my hdd from graduates of Ringling to professional animators' spare time work. Basically I've watched lots of animation!

I know you don't want to hear this but I think 'like a snack out of hell' is one of the best short animations I have seen! I love its cinematography, posturing, attention to detail and all the artistic/cultural observations.

Is Monty Python a conscious inspiration for you?

Velocamonkey

05-31-2003, 10:17 AM

Kewl thanks again for all the comments:

Ricky: cheers dude, not soppy at all I also appreciated all your inspiration during the year, without you as competition I would never have produced this.

Gingerhammer: That's cool, yeah I too felt a bit like it was rather stop starty but there was so much to model, texture animate and all done by myself that I just wanted to get into it. Ideally I would have liked waaay longer to adjust my story. Other people don't likethe low poly guy either so that's fair enough, I just wanted my computr to be able to cope!!:D

Yeah, why aren't I on the front page?? (head swell)

Velocamonkey

05-31-2003, 10:24 AM

These forums seem so quiet these days, it's like a Ghost town, where is everyone?:surprised

John Lee

05-31-2003, 10:27 AM

Hey man

Excellent work i can see you put in a alot of time to do this! Very very nice!

John Lee

Velocamonkey

05-31-2003, 10:36 AM

A ha, the Legendary John Lee, a fellow student in the UK!!

We might bump into each other someday in the job industry. I'm downloading your film as we speak, it looks really sweet from the pics. How did you build up such a following?

A Morley

05-31-2003, 07:19 PM

NIce

John Lee

05-31-2003, 07:24 PM

Legendary hhmmm... I think Not hehehe. What you mean by how did i build up such a following? as in work or animation?

Velocamonkey

06-01-2003, 03:02 PM

Yeah, in your guestbook there seem to be so many big names in animation who know you? And you got interviewed as well, you must be very good at networking.

victor throe

06-03-2003, 02:28 PM

just watch it again

i do like it

i cant believe its on page 5

not for long

Velocamonkey

06-03-2003, 02:57 PM

Thanks Victor, I've always been one of your biggest fans, as I'm sure you know, and a compliment form you means so much. MervFeld is one of the best things I've seen in a long time. So much emotion, so little lip synch, in one word, wow.:beer:

Kel Solaar

06-03-2003, 03:53 PM

Huhu!! Amazing job :)) It was so funny! and the pollock idea is excellent! The animation is excellent! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: 5 Stars!!

victor throe

06-03-2003, 03:58 PM

you ass kisser

Chagidiel

06-03-2003, 04:57 PM

F¤"#&g brilliant! :bounce:

I felt the ending coming before it occured, but your divine puke was so nasty it took me by surprise anyway.

Darn great animation... and AMAZINGLY dynamic and juicy motion of the pukes! Extra superb job on those. Very inspiring!

Looking forward for more of your stuff.

Wolfmoonct

06-03-2003, 05:23 PM

That was so damn funny!!! :buttrock: I absolutely loved it!!!:thumbsup:

el paso

06-03-2003, 09:01 PM

haha that was awesome, I love nasty humour like that.

the orange chunkies were the best haha.

the poses at the beginning were also pretty great

be rad

Boxcarwilli

06-03-2003, 10:12 PM

You said 6 months, how many hours on average per week was that?

Still waiting on DL BTW.

Kananga

06-03-2003, 11:41 PM

the ornamental puke fountain:drool: did it for me. Great gags and timing! Brilliant stuff:thumbsup:

tenl

06-04-2003, 04:59 AM

Connections a little slow but have been reading everyone's post while at it.

Will let you know what I think as soon as I download it

TENL:shrug:

Velocamonkey

06-04-2003, 10:09 AM

Glad everyone enjoyed the puke so much.

Boxcarwilli: I worked my ass off. This was my film for Uni so I was 100% dedicated. I got up around 8 everyday, started work at 9 or earlier, stopped an hour for lunch and continued until around 8pm, at which point I was knackered and died infront of the TV. It was hard work, but worth it.

Kel Solaar; Glad you enjoyed my comment on Pollock, it made me laugh.

tenl: Hope the download goes well.:scream:

victor throe

06-04-2003, 10:15 AM

i really dig the clouds

were they 3d or just good photoshoppery

xynaria

06-04-2003, 06:29 PM

Got nearly half way through d/l ing this and can't get a resume or anything. :)

3DArtZ

06-04-2003, 06:56 PM

Who wants to be a hero and post an mpeg of this for the divx/wmv/avi handicapped?
thanks in advance
Mike Fitz

mage111

06-04-2003, 07:18 PM

couldnt dl it - but i can tell you im itchin to watch it lol

anieves

06-04-2003, 07:22 PM

I couldn't dl the dvix but the wmv worked...

nasty:scream:

Reality3D

06-04-2003, 07:23 PM

The links doesn't work Velocamonkey

victor throe

06-04-2003, 08:27 PM

you know

life before broadband is just a blur now

what the hell did i do before mobile phones and broadband arrived

i remember when i was young thinking how horrific life must have been in the middle ages

no electricity....no antibiotics etc

if all electrical appliances broke today

i would be dead tomorrow

hell

even my fridge gives me basic living instructions

'you are low on milk......bbzzzzt'

'inflate lungs...............deflate lungs.........'

goto 10

run_

scroll?

ninjacore

06-04-2003, 09:31 PM

GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!!

another fine example of the growing animation talent from this country!! WHAT THE F**K!!! i'm so convinced theres some special power floating about in the drinking water down there!!

enough gobshite. what a great animation, i liked everything about it. you could tell there was a shitload of work involved in that. it made me puke tho. your character also looks like this character i'm working on at the mo. but that doesnt matter.

bravo:D :thumbsup:

Mechis

06-04-2003, 09:36 PM

That was a great animation! You really hit all the basic techniques of animation- run, pull, jump, anticipate, etc. Everything was in this anim!
Is there any way that I could watch your Modernism short? I went to your website and it gave me a "File not found" error.

Solesurvivor

06-04-2003, 09:50 PM

oh man, fantastic job, animation is gorgeous !!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Hugh

06-04-2003, 10:10 PM

Hey - great short!

someone posted a link in IRC last week, but it only downloaded the first part (until just after he died)...

Great to see the whole thing all the way through!

Where were you studying, BTW?

Chagidiel

06-04-2003, 10:42 PM

Wohah

About darn time this one got plugged on the front page!

Having seen this little goodie lots of times now. Seems I cant get enough of these gorgeous vomits :D

Master-JP

06-04-2003, 11:10 PM

Wont let me DL it for some reason?
I have the Divx codec so forth, but I keep getting a DL error(ClassFactory cannot supply requested class (Error=80040111), I tried to watch the WMV version but it didnt work too good, had to buffer every 2 seconds. The little I saw has made me interested! lol so any possible answers?
Thx for your Time.

Master-JP out....
"Perfection is a road, not a Destination."

I animate

06-04-2003, 11:15 PM

Wow, downloading at 19k!!! Geezzzz. I'll watch it when I get back from the store.

Garma

06-04-2003, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Velocamonkey

The plastic was really simple, just a texture map of the creases acting as a bump map on a material that was reflective... if that makes sense.

Ey! It is the art that matters :) If the result is great, nothing else matters. And it is great :thumbsup:

Oww, love the style.

urgaffel

06-05-2003, 12:21 AM

The divx versions are no worky :( I get a 0kb file and IE thinks it is finished...

Wmv seems to be working though

tenl

06-05-2003, 12:30 AM

Cant grab any of them...

How about a mirror???

sin

06-05-2003, 01:02 AM

OH !! I HATE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!! Great work ..wonderfull ..and aniamtion OH ! can i tell you - i hate you ? :buttrock: :applause:

Ikaruga

06-05-2003, 01:22 AM

This is so fun and the animation is simply great ! GREAT WORK!:applause:

3DArtZ

06-05-2003, 02:49 AM

Can someone please post an mpeg version of this. I downloaded divx 5 for mac but no luck.
thanks
Mike Fitz

exbox

06-05-2003, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by 3DArtZ
Can someone please post an mpeg version of this. I downloaded divx 5 for mac but no luck.
thanks
Mike Fitz

If you are running OS X, you can download MPlayer OSX. It plays pretty much every video codec, including the lastest divx files. Here is the site... click me (http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/)

facial

06-05-2003, 05:21 AM

Interesting work, Well done. :thumbsup:

Dearmad

06-05-2003, 06:56 AM

can't d/l. :thumbsdow

CuTnPaste

06-05-2003, 08:01 AM

can't donwload!

:annoyed:

cut

beatoperator

06-05-2003, 08:28 AM

yup, the divxes does not work, but I downloaded WMW...

:eek:
wooooOOooW, mate, this is absolutely great, I must admit.
respect! :buttrock:
I am downloading and watching animations from internet every day... this one was, hmmh... yeah....

I like the animation style, editing is seamless, the story is awesome, very well directed... don't know what else to say.

keep on rockin'...
chEErs mate
:beer:

marugie

06-05-2003, 08:49 AM

Well done man, i thought it was brilliant.

Everyone here at the office also thought it was awesome.

I dont know if i missed it, but what software were you using?

MVP

06-05-2003, 09:28 AM

WOW WOW WOW.
That was absolutely incredible, i loved it and I will take great pleasure seeing the smiles on my mates faces when I show it to them.
Fantastic.:bounce: :applause:

lmc

06-05-2003, 09:36 AM

Hmm...i like the idea...the animation especially....and the storytelling....everything really look good to me, just the ending is a bit confius to me, hehe :applause:

Thanks for sharing :beer:

Speaky

06-05-2003, 10:07 AM

That was sooo funny, well done to you! I often smile and chuckle at a funny animation, but this had me laughing out loud at the irreverant subject matter. Excellent stuff, and very well done. I think it flows well, and the little pauses work to balance and complement the more hectic bits.

:thumbsup:

TZYdaCG

06-05-2003, 10:11 AM

hahaha....

i dont think i need to say thats extremely funny

love the puking idea, very origional

how long have you learned the software?

AVTPro

06-05-2003, 10:24 AM

Youre an Animator's Animator!!! Print to FILM!

This is the reason some adults still wake up Saturday morn'n for cartoons and cold bowl of milky cereal.

I can see the benefits of good planning and well thought out storyboards.
I like the backgrounds and compositions. Opening location pan shot is awesome.
Original and creative story...Gross as heck the way kids love it. My stomach is queazy now...so I can't imagine how you felt watching it over and over during editting LOL!!!
The actions is very Johnny Bravo....but HiPpeR ...Love the gestures.

Ok...this wouldn't be a critique if I don't say something critical but after watching three times I can only come up with "You're too good"

So, I'll just comment on personals stuff.

I don't like "Ren and Stimpy" because it's "Ecky" looking and this skirtted around the rim after the 3rd GURCH!!!

I really don't find vomiting, rank food, "555", Heaven or God funny subjects matter for laughs however, I couldn't help feeling very sympathetic for the character trying so hard to clean up his act or conceal his "sin" but but only making matters worst. Very true to life, right? There seems to be a background moral there.

Then when he meets his maker and MORE VOMIT...I tend to think he made it in inspite of how much a mess he is and that would make it a GOOD ENDING.

whoa...PROFILIC!!!

:thumbsup:

Vladvrz

06-05-2003, 10:37 AM

That was well done.just wanted to add my voice.:thumbsup:

roguenroll

06-05-2003, 10:46 AM

great job, loved it.
:)

Velocamonkey

06-05-2003, 11:47 AM

Holy crap what a response!! This has been on for ages and suddenly exploded overnight, there I was thinking I sucked as I got such a response when I posted Modernism but this just makes me full of happiness. Thanks everyone, this makes it all worth it. Sorry I haven't been around answering questions, I've been busy trying to make showreels and stuff. I'll try and answer as many as I can remember:

This animation was made in 3dsmax 5, all modelling, animation etc.

The clouds in heaven were a mix. The big ass ones were modelled in 3ds max, whereas the smaller ones in the distance were photoshop jobs.

I'm really glad everyone likes the humour so much, otherwise it would have fallen competely flat.

I go/went to Southampton Institute in the UK. I've been learning max for 2 years now, the last year was while I was making this film, so I was sought of learning on the job. God was that hard, big thanks to Adam Comiskey my tutor who really helped me loads.

Strangely enough this film didn't make me feel qeazy watching it over and over, I think I became hardened to it. Although recording the puke sounds at the begining was quite an ordeal.

I'm sorry about some people not being able to download it, I've been finding a it really hard to find space to upload it to, thanks to Vram my mate for hosting them. I was gonna upload it to www.pocketmovies.net and then link to there, but they seem to be out of business, DOH!!

My first animation, MODERNISM can still be downloaded from pocketmovies.net I think, if they haven't died completely. Hope people enjoy that one too.

Okay, phew. Anymore questions?:bounce: :beer: :D :airguitar

Velocamonkey

06-05-2003, 11:50 AM

Frontpage!! Cheers!

tommygun67

06-05-2003, 11:57 AM

This is fantastic, i really like your style. How did you do the puke, especially the stuff at the end, was it done in max, that must have taken lots of tweeking to get that effect.

will be making another film for your catalog, i can't wait to see what you come up with next.

CuTnPaste

06-05-2003, 12:34 PM

Ok
I've seen the wmv version.....the animation is great!

great choice about the level of the complexity of the models....they are simple, but efficacious!!

Only a thing....the end of the story is confused and a little bit "trash" !!

WHYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!??!?!?

:)

cutnpaste

jbw

06-05-2003, 01:11 PM

Velocamonkey - this is great. ;) Can I ask what Uni you're at. You seem to know your stuff and I'm in need of change of scenery. I considered going about 4 years ago but wasn't convinced back then that the courses would be up to much.

ta,
jbw

victor throe

06-05-2003, 02:31 PM

no way

pocketmovies is dead.....

have they dissapeared completely or have they popped up somewhere else under a new name

i worked on a puking scene a couple of years ago

(live action)

the actor could do this great impression of someone puking

he would do this almightly HHGUNNNNNMMEEUUGH!! sound but could insert little croaks and burps into it too

it was fukkingross

and each take was done with him holding half a can of vegetable soup in his throat

he was very talented

he would hold it all right back behind his tongue so that when he opened his mouth and burped there would be a delay before the soup would emerge

fantastic

my job was to add some cg chunks to beef it up a bit

if i find it ill post it

hey velcromonkey

whats your next project going to be about

amuaying

06-05-2003, 02:52 PM

Why the divxes does not work??!!

flipnap

06-05-2003, 04:14 PM

guess ill get blasted for this but here goes..

Subject matter offended me (crowd mumbles)

Im a beleiver in God. Im not a fanatic nor am i religious (man made). Its simply my faith and my love.

I wont go into a rant why i believe because i dont need (nor do you) a huge philosophical thread.

I think your choice of matter and symbols (angels peeing.. guy says holy sh't right after seeing sweet jesus your in heaven, vomiting all over heaven and God vomiting on him)

Listen, i can take a joke.. I dont give my money to jerry fallwell and i dont drink poison and dance with snakes. I simply think in a wide world of mixed faiths and cultures you might have made a wiser choice of subject matter.

Point made, i think the animation was good. It was a little too pose to pose snappy for me. Technically not bad but you should try some straight ahead animation and see if you can do something a little more organic, youve got the talent. keep on keeping on and remember; the minute you think youve mastered character animation - youve been mastered!!

flip

Obraxis

06-05-2003, 04:17 PM

Can someone please post a mirror? I've been trying for a few days to see this now :(

victor throe

06-05-2003, 04:34 PM

good grief

i believe/ love god also

chill out

this is an animation forum

i think its an excellent choice of subject matter

we can symathise with the guy because he is trying to make a good impression in the ultimate situation

it shows god to have a sense of humour

i think its very respectful to the christian faith

i dont see that going to toilet either human or angel is
disrespectful

after all

god gave us the equipment for doing so

thus making it ok to portray it

sorry

just playing devils advocate

go charge your religious batterys in church tonight and youll soon see it really is an ok film

very non corrupting

victor throe

06-05-2003, 04:38 PM

one more word

WACO

flipnap

06-05-2003, 04:43 PM

okay, see .. this is my point. and victor, im not going to get into with you cuz you sound like a troll.

go charge your religious batterys in church tonight and youll soon see it really is an ok film

This is totally uncalled for. I thought my post was pretty diplomatic so maybe you should chill out. And you say you believe in God and love God, so you tell me to go charge my religious batteries in church? Am i missing something here.. and whats with the WACO thing?

Ive got better things to do than go round and round with 14 year olds. Like i said, good film - bad choice (IN MY OPINION VICTOR!!) of subject matter.

over and out

victor throe

06-05-2003, 04:44 PM

something just occured to me

flipnap: you might be able to answer this for me

do angels have genitles and bung-holes

do they crap?

velocamonkey: could you clarify that the figuer seen pissing on the lavvy door is actually an angel or is it a deceased human that has earned its wings

like clarence

victor throe

06-05-2003, 04:57 PM

the religious battery things is and never was meant as an insult

sorry if it did offend you

but this is something a vicar told me once,

"church is a place to go to worship god and recharge your religious batteries"

especially when you have spent the day in the company of satan

i too dont want to get into an argument about

well

anything really

i didnt want to offend as this is supposed to be a light hearted animation forum

which is why i was surprised with the comments about your objection to the subject

it really would be a sad day if people no longer made cartoon about religion, politics, disease or any other delicate subject for fear of offending people

i apologise to you and to anyone else for my comments

i also apologise in advance for anyone that might be offended by my series of upcoming shorts about an old person getting maimed

waco

it was that cult thing

lots of people died

agreed....very childish of me to suggest you were a religious nut

14?....well thanks........i give full credit to pinching my wifes 'oil of ulay' when in the bath.....knocks the years right off it does

finally

whats a troll?

Obraxis

06-05-2003, 05:04 PM

THAT was freaking COOL! :D

Awesome animation man (Only WMV link works - doh)

Great comedy! Like the slapstick kinda british humour!

Note - no more religious talk unless its regarding the actual animation, or a mod will close this thread, which im sure we dont want.

victor throe

06-05-2003, 05:06 PM

damn right

mattmos

06-05-2003, 05:24 PM

Changing the subject slightly... what was that glint in the distance when you are first introduced to the character? I assume he's a superhero type but there was no defining story to back that up - if he got run over while trying to rescue an old lady getting mugged or something, I think it would have enhanced the story.

other than that, a huge amount of work for the time it was done in, well done... :beer:

victor throe

06-05-2003, 05:28 PM

it looked like a glint off the railing he slides down

i didnt read anything into it

i just thought he was doing

have you seen those shoes you can buy with grind pads on them

like rollerblading without wheels

i thought they were a joke when i saw them on tv

it was around the same time as when those guys launched their extreme wheelbarrow website

mattmos

06-05-2003, 06:24 PM

My bad... Should watch things more closely the first time!

Frank Dodd

06-05-2003, 07:24 PM

Excellent, very funny and a real short. Well done!

3DArtZ

06-05-2003, 07:47 PM

Someone step up to plate!!!!
Look, I tried getting the divx codec and it didn't work. Could somone please save this as an mpg so it could be viewed by everyone?
there's a thanks waiting for anyone who could do this.
Mike Fitz

victor throe

06-05-2003, 07:49 PM

fine

im doing it now

but itll be small and it wont be on my site for long

3DArtZ

06-05-2003, 08:09 PM

Victor, thanks big time
I can host it on my site, if that would be of any interest.
Thanks again,
I appreciate it

victor throe

06-05-2003, 09:27 PM

hmm

i used premiere and it came out at 65meg

would quicktime be ok?

Danilo Almeida

06-05-2003, 09:32 PM

Awesome!!

Man... I'm starting to love your work.

Congratulations.

Love your animation style.

Keep it Up.

DANILO ALMEIDA
------------------------------
Paralaxe Design Tecnologia e Desenvolvimento

victor throe

06-05-2003, 09:57 PM

i cant seem to get it small enough to fit on my remaining space

i did get it quite small but the quality was so shite it wasnt worth it

sorry

3DArtZ

06-05-2003, 11:28 PM

thanks for trying victor.
I'll have to search for another way.
Mike Fitz

Missing Link

06-05-2003, 11:42 PM

that was simply fantastic. fantastic style.

AVTPro

06-06-2003, 04:47 AM

I'm all for FREE speech and with the last FCC laws, we are should really treasure what little we have left, but You should'nt toss Flipnap "criticism" off lightly, especially if your work is posted publicly.

There are inuendos in your animation that can be offensive by people of certain faiths. It bothered me too a bit.

Just be aware of it.

Heck, I'm not the former highly hailed Mayor of NYC, (Juliani) but believe me, If you pissed him off with some "artsy" religious dunged painted Mary, urinated crucifix, and vomiting on the Bible...get the point?

I greatly admire your talent but as I mentioned in my first post...I don't usually find that subject matter funny (ei. "555" or God).

The vulgarity is meant to be humorous as much like "Ren and Stimpy, Blood gushing south park, " type animation is, so I took it as such. Obviouly, Lavatory doors don't show anyone actually pee'n on the door, man, women, kid, and much less Angels.

You are obviously pushing buttons, so did Madonna, it made her famous. She crossed the line and taboos. Enter at your own risk, but don't be suprised or unaware when someone tells you..."That is not funny" to them, it could be sincerely hurtful. It doesn't make them less than you.

I took it as you were poking fun at the taboos. The bible is a book and paper.
But Burn an American flag and you will go to Jail.

However, there are tons of cartoons with wimpy angels on one shoulder and mischevious red devils whispering on the other. I consider it nonsense just as much as God having a big 20 feet, white foot.

:p

AVTPro

06-06-2003, 04:58 AM

Freak. There's tons of nightmarish "satanic looking" art on this board...and I'm sure some are very intentful to their cause...hahah. I consider the onus them.

As always with cartoons, my concerns are with impressionable children and misinterpetation...but heck, after Bart Simpson...who's going to protect us adults from them?

Lots of people just find burp'n disgusting... and some laugh. I judge not. (pun?)

Again, I had to sympathize with the poor fellow. He was decieved by a sandwich instead of an apple.

victor throe

06-06-2003, 08:47 AM

can you really go to jail for burning the american flag(in america)?

its still classed as treason in the uk to stick a stamp on upside down

id like to see them enforce though

Velocamonkey

06-06-2003, 10:40 AM

Eeek!:surprised

I just checked the posts today and was quite shocked. I'd just like to point out that I'm not trying to imply anything or question faith or anything.
When I went about making this I did not set out to offend or "push buttons". I personally don't see anything wrong with it, it's just a cartoon, but I appologise if I have offended anyone. I'm glad people like it, it really is just meant to be a comedy that just happens to be set in heaven.

I was gonna have the guy as a janitor before, puking on a nice clean floor as his boss arrived, but it lacked scale. So I just thought what would make it much scarier, why messing up God's shiny floor!

Again I appologise for offendeing anyone, and I will not be burning either Bibles or American Flags.

DIVx wise, I don't know what's up with the divX versions. If some nice person could give me some free webspace I could upload MPEG versions or DivX versions, whatever, I've no idea why they aren't working and the wmv one is??