Short Animation: '2d Or Not 2d'

[roguenroll]

DL's a little slow, but I'm still waiting.

i'm half way on DL accelerator, its would be tough on 56k, but
I guess 16.6 mbs would be anyway.

yeah, this is a pretty long DL, might want to try to get a
mirror.:surprised

r

[roguenroll]

holy crap, that was damn good, brillient idea. I loved it.
the little jim carey dance (right?), very funny.

I think I might have added a little SFX with that explosion,
but other than that small thing.


top notch, I post a mirror on my site, its the end of the month,
if I don;t get hammered I leave it for a while.

I'll give you URL asap


MIRROR>>>>>>>>>>


http://www.fmotion.net/DR_GRAD_FILM.zip

[d0an]

I don't really comment on too many things from here, sure I like what I see and all I just don't take the time to respond to everyone... I guess I'm guilty for being one of them quiet people that just nosey around.. oops :rolleyes:

... but anyways, I really loved the idea behind it and all, in a way it's a inspiration to get back in to trying out some old 3d I once did once apon a time.

keep up the good work

(I'm suprised it hasn't gotten any more comments)


p.s. roguenroll: thanks for the mirror it helped

[dooom]

have you tried giving the windsheild an opac map to make it a little more real looking, as i say again fantastic modeling.:applause:


:airguitar

[dooom]

wow disregaud that last post it seems i have lost my place.it was meant for a different thread.:D


:airguitar

[WesComan]

Fantastic! :)

Great animation, cool idea and nicely executed. I really enjoyed watching this, thanks for posting it :)

:beer:

[kaktuswasser]

wow, fantastic work :buttrock:

[Joril]

Original!
I like it alot :)
Nice choice in music aswell.
It's also nice to see more Lightwave movies out there :beer:

[John Lee]

Dal My man

WHAT CAN I SAY except truely amazing stuff man! I love it so much! Excellent and orginal idea! It's f**king class my man we said to each other it's only a matter of time and now you have done it! Congrats on getting it finished as well! I know how hard it is not many people can finish a whole film! But you done it. I'm wouldn't be suprised if you get hired within the next week! LOL! you are too good! It's bben good working with you buddy! All those 4am starts man we were Nacked but hey look at what you produced. exceelent man keep it up!

From your Buddy!

Mr Lee

ps fancy a chinese?? Might as well? LOL!!! :)

[dprodr]

Hey thanks for the comments everyone. It's always good to get positive responses. Means that your hard work wasn't all in vain.


Thanks again.


Dal


:beer:

[proton]

What a great animation....I love the blend of 2d and 3d...and a great story as well....

[dragonz]

Awesome idea. I just love it. Great blending and all.

[Boxcarwilli]

This is like dialing into a BBS at 2400baud. :(

:hmm: Someone please post a mirror.:hmm:

[JBoskma]

There is a mirror posted allready..

drprodr. I'd say: get in contact with Pixar or something. And that's the biggest compliment I can give. This looks absolutely fantastic. Directing / Lighting / Rendering / Art, it all fits. Got this one saved! :thumbsup:

[beyondMyth]

really cool! i like it alot! :)

[j00st81]

dlding at 3kb/sec and cant wait :D

[edit]

haha great short, would have loved to see the monitor explode though ;) :D

[darkwave]

Great work man. Good luck in the industry, this'll get you places.

Woody.

[StevenR]

Fantastic work. :applause:

I'll second what j00st81 said about the monitor exploding.

Also, since we're on the subject of explosions...the bomb going off in the paper lacked 'oomph' since it had no accompanying sound effect. Everything else was fine without sound FX, but the explosion needed it, IMO.

Either way, great animation. :thumbsup:

[ganglyon]

animators HHOoooooooooooo:D

now thats what i'm talking abt!, this guy wrks so hard, and it shows, the amount of work&dedication gone into this is inspiering, you set the bench mark for us, now its my turn to break it nxt year, i'll jus try and wrk as hard as you! i love the fact our so called tuters have NO CLUE as to what you've done, keeep it up dude, i'll have to get rocky of you b4 u leave us 4ever, and noew yr gone, how i'm supposed to learn anything:rolleyes: the animators lybray has gone!!!

good luck man, you deserv it!

all the best
matt.

[modi]

WOW, that was some kick ass animation. Loved the concept, really cool. How long did the whole thing take you. Cheers- Modi.

[sinbad]

Hey (Disney) Dal

Wow man, front page! I knew you would do it!
The last 3 years have gone by so quickly.... I've said this about John Lee, and the same applies to you. Rarely do they get students of this quality at the school. Your desire to become accomplished (DaVinci style) in so many areas of the arts has given you a solid grounding as a professional. I haven't seen a graduate already at disney level- and one who gan draw perfect anatomy from memory. Topped by an excellent attitude and gritty determination, the future holds no boundries for you my friend.

If someone reads this from a good studio - hire this guy now!

See ya soon

Paul Sinclair

[John Lee]

Hey man

I can second that. Don't let this guy go! Snap him up quick! thank smpauls for tghe kinds words man! You know if it wasn't for you the 2nd year coming up now would never be as good you know that. You are always there for them! Just like you were for us and for that we are grateful my man.!

John

[dprodr]

Hey thanks for the replies and positive comments guys.

roguenroll: thanks for the mirror. Not sure why the original DL is so slow, a bit of a shame. Thanks for the help.


You second years will be fine as long as you work hard and listen to Rocky music on those long lonely mornings!

Thanks John and Sinbad. You've both been a huge help this year. Couldn't have done it without you guys.
:beer:

modi: It took me a total of 9 months, whilst working on other projects.

Thanks again,

Dal.

[ganglyon]

"dall, but dal..."

wicked nice man, you guys blew away all other work at the show
the depth you got in this piece is quality, you even modled the back of the monitor! now thats class

the quote board will live on, so if you ever want to add anything from a,soon to be profesional point of view, you know yr more than welcom

:)

[A Morley]

Excellent mate,

I don't know how you managed to pull it off without any help at all. You put the rest of us to shame. Everyone should see this film whether interested in 2D or CGI or just animation in general. Good job mate, I'm sure you'll get a first and it's well deserved. Keep it up,

Adam:beer:

[lildragon]

Very clever title and one kicking short which deserves a couple plugs :) http://www.cgtalk.com & http://www.3dfestival.com I smell a new job coming ;)

Also I took the liberty of supplying you a mirror on 3dfestival.com

salud

[show]

haha man thats a great short film.
Im starting uni in september so its brilliant to see UK students like you and john producing great work like this for your 3rd year projects.

Good luck with the job hunt :)

[sin]

hahaha ..this is twilight zone ! i love it ! ..and strange end - yeah !
with impatience i wait for another movie - great idea and work :buttrock:

[Rivendale]

Hey, great idea and well executed. It sucked me right in with the music and feel of it. I think the ending would be better if he came in contact with the bomb once again in the monitor( or if someone came and pressed the delete button, hehe)

Good work!

[timgolnik]

i'll continue the 2+ pages worth of praise here... excellent work!
you'll get snapped up quick by whoever you want to work for!

:thumbsup:

[dprodr]

lildragon: Thanks very much for the plugs and mirrors. Over the moon to get my stuff on the front page of CGTalk and 3D Festival!

show: Good luck at uni. It's gonna be hard work, but with the right attitude you'll find it incredibly rewarding.

Rivendale: I know what you mean about having contact with the bomb in the monitor. Initially the end scene was gonna be a lot longer, but the deadline loomed fast so i had to cut it. Might finish it off one day.

Will try to post my showreel in next 2 - 3 days.

Thank you

:beer:

Dal :thumbsup:

[urgaffel]

Really great little (long) animation you got there :) Your 2d animation skills are impressive, very very well done.

Now have a beer and relax and watch as the praise and job offers pour in ;)

:beer:

[randyrives]

Looking forward to seeing your name in lots of credit lines.

Excellent job, hope you do another ending, cause that is the only thing missing in my very humble opinion.



Good Luck man!

[SPIDER2544]

incredible

:beer:

[3DArtZ]

Hey Any chance we could get this mpeg format, can't see the divx...
thanks
Mike Fitz

[CGmonkey]

Hehe I remember you posted a small animation with this guy dancing over at PAP's forum. Never imagined it would turnout this good.. Great work!

[ninjacore]

:eek: holy crap!

what the hell is in the water down there?

you and john lee's stuff is great! its so cool seeing british students creating work of this quality. i wish i could say the same for myself, as i have just finished my 3rd year, but have little to show for it...

anyways! good luck on finding a job! i think u will have no probs mate!:thumbsup: :buttrock:

[dprodr]

3DArtZ: I'll see what i can do about an MPEG version.

ninjacore: Thanks. Me, John, Sinbad and a couple of others just work really hard and push each other on. What school did u go to? U got a website or any work i can see? I know it's tough. Still trying to get my own website up and running.


:bounce:

Dal.

[pencil-head]

hehehe that was cool. i wanted that guy to turn 3d in the computer.:p

[Dancing Monkey]

That was INCREDIBLE! I loved that... wouldn't mind seeing some more shorts like that.

[ninjacore]

;)

i'm at abertay university in dundee. i've doing a course called BA Computer Arts. its been a bit of a "jack of all trades" kinda course, becuase we have covered everything, like 3d,2d, animation, video, flash stuff, compositing..the list goes on.

my website is www.rustyeye.co.uk

and my latest CG wonder is here....

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65890

but i'm gonna work hard! my ambition now is to get a cgtalk front page!!:D :bounce:

[Digiegg]

WOW..... yes.... contact Pixar please! haha Very very clever man!!!
Good job!!!

[TANGOMAN]

Nice ,nice:bounce: ,yes Impressive that traditional animation
I missed a lot to see 2d animation here and you did a
master piece in that,I studied about 2 years of 2d animation
and when I saw it I enjoyed a lot..

crits:

The only thing at the first the body is too rigid,or maybe that was the effect you wanted to do;moving first the head and after the body if it´s that then:thumbsup:



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my dancing-web:
http://www.johnnytango.com

[Psybah]

congratulations on your new piece! Very impressive, excellent 2d animation. 2D animators of that quality are VERY rare! You got quite a gift! Good luck in the near future and look forward to see more work soon.

[ed209]

Wow, great student film. Some of your camera work could have been better but all in all a fun idea that was really we'll executed. I loved the part where he jumps from the paper. =)

Two thumbs up! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[PaxtonGerrish]

loved the Bugs bunny shuffle on the scanner!!!!
rock on most rightous dude:buttrock:

[Frinsklen]

wow, original idea, very nice story, great animation...
I love the funny dance on the scanner, and the way he sort of pushes the paper he's in before coming out of it.
yeah, I agree with Andrew about the camera movement, but I don't think it's a major problem.

Nice Shostakovich too, pity you had to cut the piece! :D

good luck with your short
:thumbsup: :applause:

[o-phile]

i never thought i'd be one to say this about an animation.


"that was fun :)"

[dprodr]

Thanks guys.


ed209 and Frinsklen: I totally agree with you on the camera work. I wanted to go back, re-do it and re-render it but, alas, time was not on my side.


TANGOMAN: The rigid body at the start was partly deliberate, but i see what you mean about it being too stiff. There are a number of errors in the animation sequence on the paper, and some of the jerkiness occurred during the scanning and compositing processes.


Thanks,

Dal. :bounce:

[kr3ml]

I love it ! Very nice work! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[3DArtZ]

Not to be bothersome, but I'd be really appreciative if someone could post an mpeg version. Please
Mike Fitz

[LucentDreams]

cool film, nice idea for playing with 2D and 3D, sort of reminds me of the film the visitor.

One concern, you should change the title, and darn soon, That title is already used for a classically animated film in production at the Canadian NFB for a few years now by famous Animator Paul Driessen, produced by Marcy Page:/

[smann]

very nicely done.

This is meant more as a question, and really has less to do with the animation, ( as I think its great)
but more about the amount of replies that say "very original"

Im assuming they mean the 2d drawn character coming out of the page.

This has been down since the dawn of animation on a film medium. The Fleischer Brothers comes to mind with thier out of the inkWell cartoons where the characters live on and off the page, as well as some of the old Disney TV shows of the early studio when walt disney chased donald duck under the pad on his desk.

It makes me wonder how much Animation history people actually know?

I would think of it more of an adaptation, A very good one, and of course the scanner being the technical advance shown.

Great piece of work! This is not meant to downplay your success, more of a thread of this thread.

good luck
-s

[roguenroll]

Originally posted by dprodr
Hey thanks for the replies and positive comments guys.

roguenroll: thanks for the mirror. Not sure why the original DL is so slow, a bit of a shame. Thanks for the help.

Dal.


no prob, I actually have quite a bit of bandwidth, I haven't got close to topping it off. It was such a great short, its worth everybody seeing.

good luck


Rogue

[gigatron]

I think its simple and magnificiant at the same time. The way it's done flows with the music.. sure it may not be a perfect flow but it just has a certain classy feeling to it. I really find it inspiring in some ways despite it's simplicity :D I like I like :D

[LucentDreams]

Originally posted by smann
It makes me wonder how much Animation history people actually know?

CG artists, quite a few wouldn't, but I don't think they mean the idea rather then the implimentation, even in the recent film the visitor which plays on the same idea, you dfind the classically animated character drawn and composited on top of the film or 3D, where as this one actually has the character in the 3d environment not only a moving drawing but a bending folding drawing that casts a shadow and such.

[victor throe]

that was awesome

sounds fx would have boosted it

i would have put a cut in there for when he is bashing on the computer screen

a close up

but thats me

[thom:f]

yeah, wicked idea. We see plenty of 2d/3d cartoon effects but this idea really has that edge.

nice. :)

[Jo B.]

all i can do is repeating the comments above.
:surprised :surprised :surprised :surprised :surprised :surprised
love it. reminds me of the calvin an hobbes issue where he becomes a 2D guy and is ivisible along the x/y axis.
:thumbsup:

[The Cross]

I think i let that one sit on the front page too long...Just seen it and i loved it.

[JHN]

I really like it alot! Nicelly done! Love the idea and the style!

Keep it up!
JHN

[My Fault]

Hey Dal.

Fantastic short! I actually own the 2dornot2d.com domain but have been so busy with real life these last few years (amazing what kids and a family can do to your time, though it's worth it) that I haven't had time to use it. If your interested I'd be happy to transfer over the domain to you, no charge. If your up for it, just PM me and we can see what we need to do.

Once again. love the short!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[icky]

pretty nice, but I felt your character was a little 'flat' ;)

Seriously though, he gets a bit boring after the first minute IMO. The dancing on the scanner was a nice touch. It's a great showcase of your technical abilties, so should do great in your portfolio :)

Good job :thumbsup:

[dprodr]

Thanks guys.

Good to see that it sparked off some thought about what constitutes 2d and 3d animation.

smann: I'm glad you mentioned the Fleischer brothers, 'cos they were an inspiration for this piece and other works of mine. I love the out of the inkwell stuff.

Kaiskai: Had no idea about Paul Driessen's film. I'll change mine soon. Look forward to seeing his. Sure it'll kill mine!

Thanks again.

Dal.:bounce:

[LucentDreams]

Well the concept is failry different and its all hand drawn, so over all the films won't be that identical save the title.

Here's the synopsis to Paul Driessen's film (not to be confused with Paul Driessen that woprked on Dronez, they are two different people)

From their vantage points on separate hills, Frieda and Bruno are attracted to one another. However a strange line stands between them. On closer examination, the lovers see that it is a long, thin, two-dimensional wall keeping them apart. Further investigation plunges Bruno into a world of dimensional uncertainty. Will he ultimately find his way through shifting 2D space to Frieda?

[UnlikelyCorny]

How about '2D for' then? or 'License 2D' or maybe 'inDi 2D or not 2D'.

Sorry bad humor, great animation though....

[smann]

//smann: I'm glad you mentioned the Fleischer brothers, 'cos they were an inspiration for this piece and other works of mine. I love the out of the inkwell stuff.//

Cool, Im glad that was read the right way.
nice work, good luck with it.

-=s

[lildragon]

I've said what I thought ;)

You have received the CGtalk choice award .Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! Excellent work!

upon receiving this award, it guarantees you a spot in the cgtalk gallery hall of fame (http://gallery.cgtalk.com) - which you are now placed

http://www.cgtalk.com/plug_award/cgtalk_award_june03_2.jpg

P.S. Please email me @ tito@cgnetworks.com so I can send you the award .psd file

salud

[benjii19]

Good stuff, well done to you and jon. some really good work going on. Don't really think any of you need good luck for the future you're both gonna do fine.
Cheers for all the help, and its true I wouldn't know what I know now if it wasn't for you.
C ya

Ben

[Violent Dave]

Well better late than never. A job well done my friend ^_^
Big Thanks to you and Paul for inspiring me to actually Animating a character, as supposed to just moving a picture.

I'm SURE you learnt everything Sugden could teach you :)

Thanks Muchly Mate

Simon

"80's music makes me a better Animator!"

[Copy and paste]

Just loved the idea and whole style of it......great work

[dprodr]

Thanks again everyone!

lildragon: thanks for the award. I was really chuffed!

benjii19 and Violent Dave: Cheers guys. You know you're both capable of really top-notch work. Keep it up and you'll be fine. And yeah, you're right, 80's songs do make u a better animator! He he he he!



Dal. :bounce:

[polarman3d]

That was top notch!! I loved it...The music was a perfect compliment to the wonderful animation. Excellent job!

:applause:

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