Character: Priest

[dur23]

Nice modeling! I do agree about the clothing on the reloaded models....but who can really complain about the two semis colliding hehehe ;)

I'd say he looks a lot a lot like kevin spacey :scream:

[walee]

whoah ... i love the wrinkles. :thumbsup: I would love to see the wireframe view. If you add to many wrinkles, wouldn't that create some problem when animating the character ? I guess that will just depend where you put your wrinkles on your mesh.

[p0lym0rph]

nice work,look's like matrix reloded cloths :thumbsup:

[Hexodam]

:)
looks much more like a Priest than anyone from the Matrix, way to go, good movie ;)

[sasquatch]

Thanks for the responses, everyone.

dur23 - I swear I didn't use any of Kevin on this model. He's becoming quite the albatross around my neck. :D

p0lym0rph: Dammit. that's exactly what I was trying not to do. Oh well. Must try harder. ;)

walee: will post wires tonight when I get home.

[GavinG]

That's an awesome model...it does look like a really pissed Kevin Spacey though :)
not that theirs anything wrong with that.

Gav

[leigh]

That's cool Sas :thumbsup:

I like the form a lot, very nice style. Defintely an improvement on those crap characters in Reloaded :rolleyes:

I swear I didn't use any of Kevin on this model. He's becoming quite the albatross around my neck.

Oooooh don't lie :shame: Hehehe or else you sure will end up like that Ancient Mariner... or perhaps not hehehe.

[Hellwolve]

I like the model a lot :D

But the lower part of the coat looks to much like an long skirt to me :p

[mv]

Nice modelling.. nothing to crit! great wrinkles.
:beer:

[hypercube]

Kevin Spacey IS Neo Soze in USUAL SUSPECTS RELOADED :p

If that's not Kevin, then you spent too long looking at his pic doing your other model, before making the new guy :D

Seriously though, he's looking very cool, always dig the future medieval type crossover garb, and the wrinkles look great. :thumbsup:

Though I agree some kind of extra design or cut might help make it a bit less skirt-like and more monky (is that a word?). Not entirely sure what the jacket is made out of..on the body seems more clothlike, but the arms are sort of a leather impression. like at the cuffs seems very thick and molded instead of thin and bunched up. Makes me think of the Rocketeer. :)

Anyway, preach on..look forward to more.

[ambient-whisper]

great work man!!. plugged :D

[facial]

sasquatch, nice work here, how about him shoes like? Keep post up more:bounce:

[dominicqwek]

nice. can we see some wires? :buttrock:

[Reo]

word.....give him a backpack with old books a sword and a shot gun ....and it's gold

[Asorson]

The head and neck seem really large to me. Nice drapery though :D What kind of reference did you use when placing the wrinkles? Or do you just have really good knowledge of "wrinkle anatomy"? I always have a hard time knowing where to paint the wrinkles on textures for my game characters. Planning on buying Dynamic Folds and Wrinkles (or similar title) by Burne Hogarth, but any other reference you can recommend would be great.

[goodlag]

wow~

lovely cloth ..very detail&real modeling:thumbsup: face too

[Soeren Nielsen]

Wow very nice.. cloth looks a little think at the hands, compared to the folds. know what I mean ? .. besides that its excellent

[Carm3D]

Mmm.. Like that curvaceous figure.. The voluptuous hips.. The swaying dress. I'm..so..confused.. :surprised:

Nice folds tho. The clothing looks like it has SSS added to it.

[sasquatch]

Thanks for all the comments, you lovely cgtalk people. And a front page! Brace server for impact. Much thanks to whoever plugged that.

Here's an update on the face (no more Kevin comments after this, I think ;) )

http://infinitevertices.20m.com/Priestnewhead.jpg

And a wire (bottom half is triangulated cloth object):

http://infinitevertices.20m.com/Priestwires.jpg

[thedaemon]

now he looks like Clint Eastwood! nice work.:bounce:

[dur23]

yup hes a lot more unique now. Doesn't look like spacey anymore...;)

Great update on that face!

Give us more sasquatch!

[DSedov]

Very Jean Paul Gatier'ish. Lov the style and every single detail on this character.

[BnE]

i totally agree with u about matrix cg characters, and i love yours. great model!:applause: :applause:

[Mattrne]

I'd agree with the comments about the cuffs. The way they sit and their volume just looks a bit too thick; almost like they are somehow inflated. I get/got the impression from the coat neo wore in the film, that the cloth itself was kind of floppy. ..

[Julez4001]

Great work ....
Keep it up.

[fredconv]

really cool modeling ^_^
just had some black glasses and put him in a "matrix stance" lol
wanna see it pleassse :beer:

ps what soft did you use ?

i want to improve myself TT_TT

[SirManfred]

First of all, it looks great! The clothes, the face and the rest of the head looks totally sweet. However, there is something about the hands that i think doesn't look right. Maybe they are too flat or something. I don't know, maybe post a few close-ups with more angles of the hands so we can see them better?
But still, it all looks great :)

[UnlikelyCorny]

Did not see the hands till you mentioned it, but then....
I actually think I preferred the Kevin Spacey look..What was wrong with that?

Is there a particular plan with model?

Would love to see it move...

[janabsolin]

Verrrry nice!!! The cloth is perfect!!!

[cgwolf]

Great Model, however there is a minor problem with the base of his hands i think, judging by his size and frame, they should be thicker towards the top of the palm and size down towards the fingers.

As far as the Matrix cg characters, I thought they could use a few wrinkles and heavier skin imperfections, but what was done in the scene with the Smiths still stands as my favorite cg fight.

[J. Epp (Moksha)]

It's a great STILL, however you problem was with the CGHumans in reloaded, this is not moving, it's still in it's bind pose without textures. Somehow i think your wrinkles would lose there tasteful feel when rigged, and animated. I'm sure the company could blow you away with one of their stills, but that's apples and oranges.

Make it move and impress people.

[sasquatch]

Wow, lots of replies. OK, here goes:

thedaemon: Clint? That's fine with me.

Mattrne: Yeah yeah, ok, the cuffs are too thick. Now do some work (disclaimer: Matt sits about 2 metres away from me at Sony, so I'm not just ragging on some random stranger)

DSedov, Julez4001, kRabATh: thanks for the support

Nov@: I can't promise any further Matrix-influenced stuff (it's not what I'm really going for). Software-wise I used Maya and Photoshop for colour tweaks.

SirManfred, UnlikelyCorny, cgwolf: you're both so right about the hands; will tweak them tonight. As for the Kevin Spacey look? If you weren't around September last year, this is what everybody's been moaning about (blimey, it's dated pretty badly now I look at it again):

Link (http://infinitevertices.20m.com/spac%20head%20copy.jpg)

J. Epp: Be careful what you wish for.... stay tuned.

:D



Big thanks to Ambient Whisper for the plug: I know all this art stuff shouldn't be about self aggrandisement, but being on the front page is a big honour and feels pretty damn good :D. Thanks again.

[j3st3r]

Very nice, and clean modeling.

I`m curious what method you used? Would you share with us in a few word?

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by sasquatch
<SNIP>, lots of <SNIP>

What about the skirt like lower part of the coat?

:p

[sasquatch]

Hellwolve: what's that <snip> business about? I'd reply but I don't get it (sorry, I am a bit dim this time of day :) )

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by sasquatch
Hellwolve: what's that <snip> business about? I'd reply but I don't get it (sorry, I am a bit dim this time of day :) )

Ah, quite easy actually. <SNIP> is the sound of scissors, cutting away pieces of an post that answers on questions not asked by me. In this case, there was nothing left, so I asked again :)

[UnlikelyCorny]

Aah I get the Kevin tnihg now, still would not bother about it, so what if it looks a bit like your previous Kevin?

[AJ]

Originally posted by J. Epp (Moksha)

Make it move and impress people.

Or, impress people anyway with a great model - I'm damn impressed!

Originally posted by J. Epp (Moksha)

this is not moving, it's still in it's bind pose without textures. Somehow i think your wrinkles would lose there tasteful feel when rigged

Mr Epp, you should check out the models on www.digitalsculptor.net, they have similar wrinkles and hold up pretty well after rigging in Squares movies...

Anyway, he looks pretty damn cool to me. Glad you got rid of the 'spacey' cheek lines, and have to say I'm not a big fan of his skirt - but it does suit the style. Only other comment would be that the creases appear a little 'sharp', I understand that his jacket is very figure hugging, but it looks to me as though the definition is too tight...?

Now make him kill things with pointy sticks! :wip:

[hakkston]

Wooooah!
Thats pretty amazing man! :beer:

[mhunt]

the model looks great already, don't see why change the neck, it looks fine:thumbsup:

[ZVAN]

perfect! got to say it!!!! did u use cloth plugins for the costume or modeled out?:surprised

[googlo]

the Matrix characters clothes were curiously wrinkle free

That was probably done on purpose to lend to the atmosphere of everything being artificial.

[sasquatch]

Oops, sorry hellwolve. Been a long day stuck in a mocap harness. Apologies for missing you out. So too much like a long skirt? That's because basically it is a long skirt. I'm less worried about what to call it and more worried about how to get the damn thing to solve properly :D .

ZVAN: the top half's modelled, and the bottom half is Maya cloth.

hakkston and mhunt: ta very much :thumbsup:

Googlo: that's a valid point, but for some reason it just jolted me out of what was otherwise total immersion in a pretty good movie. I know, I know, people in CG are too picky about this stuff :D

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by sasquatch
[B]Oops, sorry hellwolve. Been a long day stuck in a mocap harness. Apologies for missing you out. So too much like a long skirt? That's because basically it is a long skirt. I'm less worried about what to call it and more worried about how to get the damn thing to solve properly :D<SNIP>

Alright, see for yourself.

But I still don't like it :p

[sasquatch]

Hellwolve: Why not? is it a technical issue or a design one?

[Joebount]

That's just great work !
Keep the update comming ! :thumbsup:

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by sasquatch
Hellwolve: Why not? is it a technical issue or a design one?

I'm not good enough to ponder 'bout technical issues ;)

No, it's an design one :)

[mv]

great update on the head sas.. lot of personnality. Keep 'em coming!

[ambient-whisper]

Originally posted by Hellwolve
I'm not good enough to ponder 'bout technical issues ;)

No, it's an design one :)

then again hellwolve likes the design quality of the HL2 zombies ;) hahaha

( dont mind me, just pulling yer leg there wolve ;)

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by ambient-whisper
then again hellwolve likes the design quality of the HL2 zombies ;) hahaha

( dont mind me, just pulling yer leg there wolve ;)

Be carefull....I might avenge by ripping yours off...

:applause:

[sasquatch]

lol. A leg-pulling contest to the death.

You're gonna have to put up with the skirt Hellwolve, at least until I get so frustrated with the cloth dynamics that I throiw the whole thing out the window :)

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by sasquatch
lol. A leg-pulling contest to the death.

You're gonna have to put up with the skirt Hellwolve, at least until I get so frustrated with the cloth dynamics that I throiw the whole thing out the window :)

Can't wait :p

[AVTPro]

Thanks for posting the wires.

Beautiful craftsmanship. I really like the edges in the face defining the wrinkles in his face.

[DSedov]

I cant wait to see it textured!!!

[TiKiMoN]

Wow... that's really amazing. Looks like a nice villian-like character to have in The Matrix. Personally, I wasn't really impressed with the Twins or the vampire guards. (Vampires?? meh.) This guy actually looks intelligent and capable of holding his own mentally and physically, instead of that coward Merovingian. I dunno how much work you'd need to do on the clothing... I think one of the style points of the Matrix clothing is simplicity.

I thought the wireframe looked fairly dense... was that a base poly mesh that you converted to subds (or smoothed)? At any rate, it looks great! Do you have any plans to animate him? It would be great to see another of your creations sparring with him. (Although, that's probably a lot more work than you wanted to put into it. :p)

[Gremlin]

simple awesome!
maya forever!! :D
hehe, you ought to really make some tutorials, you got some serious skillz.
Cheers,
:beer:

[DSedov]

Finally it breakes from simple polys to an actual facial structure.
Not a lot of people understand, how to put polys where they do belong. And the fact is - thats not about knowing anatomy, but about spending many hours infront of a modeler screen.

[John Lee]

Sas man

You are truly amazing man. you show the abillity to be the best!

John

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