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Ilenora
07-14-2008, 03:16 AM
Hi

I'd like to have some critique and help on an image I'm currently working on, please.

First of all, I started the image over a year ago and at the time I didn't work with very large document sizes. This one is only 2833 x 3371, and much of it is blank space around and above the figure (I haven't started the background yet). Is there any way to enlarge the image without just adding more background on?
Also, the image's Resolution is only 72.009 (pixels/inch in Photoshop). Is Resolution the same as DPI? I would like the image to be 300 DPI, but I don't know how to achieve that.

The image has recently undergone a huge remake. I've almost finished the figure, but I haven't done the clothes yet, so I realise the folds don't look right. I'm concentrating on the figure right now, so please don't pay too much attention to the clothes. Of course, if you have any suggestions for other parts of the image, feel free to let me know :)

The light main source of light will be coming from her raised hand, which will have a large glowing blue light coming from it (she's casting magic). I've done the blue lighting on her face, but I've yet to do it on her arms or neck. Also, the hair is just a very rough sketch to give the basic idea of its form.

So, what can you see that's wrong? Are the proportions of her face correct? Is the anatomy or lighting off? Is there something wrong with the shading?
Any sort of comment, suggestion or critique is welcome. I want this image to be the best it can be :)

http://www.serpentinemoon.com/WIPLenna.jpg

As you can see, the clothes and hair are still very rough and need fixing. Also, the staff isn't finished yet. There will be a very faint light coming from the staff, but it was only just touch her face and neck. I've cropped all the blank space around her from this image - there is actually quite a bit of it.

http://www.serpentinemoon.com/WIPLennaface.jpg

A closeup of her face with the hair layer off. This image is at 100% - so it's fairly small. I would like it to be bigger, but I don't know how to do that.

http://www.serpentinemoon.com/WIPLennahand.jpg

A closeup of her hand and arm. I tried to make this hand very detailed, but the other hand doesn't have very much detailing because it will mostly be covered up with the magic glow.


I want this image to be the best it can be, and I know I can achieve that with your help ^_^ So thanks in advance.

Regards
Ilenora

CybrGfx
07-14-2008, 04:17 PM
Hi!

First off, understand and accept that no matter if you worked on this until the end of time, it will NEVER be "perfect." Perfect is honestly a nonsense word, in that nothing in the Universe as we know it is "perfect," although it may have a very low percentage of flaws...

Second, how large are you hoping to make this piece? You can enlarge it to about 150-200 pixels with a minimum of loss. There is also a Photoshop Resizing Action on the Adobe website that will enlarge it by about 10%, which you can repeat 3-4 times without too much pixellation.

Third, her hands look too masculine, and don't really match the rest of the figure very well (another argument against "perfect"). Her eyelids need a bit more development, and her lips look too leathery.
It's a nice image, though. with a background, it will look pretty good. Don't spend too much effort "fixing" a piece that is a year old. Repaint it instead.

~C

Ilenora
07-15-2008, 01:01 AM
First off, understand and accept that no matter if you worked on this until the end of time, it will NEVER be "perfect." Perfect is honestly a nonsense word, in that nothing in the Universe as we know it is "perfect," although it may have a very low percentage of flaws...

Yes, I understand that nothing can ever really be absolutely 'perfect'. But it can be perfect in my eyes, once I've fixed all the flaws that I can see. I guess perfect isn't the word I should have used.

Second, how large are you hoping to make this piece? You can enlarge it to about 150-200 pixels with a minimum of loss. There is also a Photoshop Resizing Action on the Adobe website that will enlarge it by about 10%, which you can repeat 3-4 times without too much pixellation.

I would like to enter this image in Exotique 4, and the rules suggest that images be slightly larger than what this image is currently. It's not necessary to be larger, I just wanted to know if there was an way to do it without pixellation.

Third, her hands look too masculine, and don't really match the rest of the figure very well (another argument against "perfect"). Her eyelids need a bit more development, and her lips look too leathery.
It's a nice image, though. with a background, it will look pretty good. Don't spend too much effort "fixing" a piece that is a year old. Repaint it instead.

I'll see about her hands - I hadn't thought they looked masculine, but I'll work on them a little more and see.
Also, I'll work more on her face. This is one of the first faces I've 'painted', so I know it has flaws.

Well, the image was already so good (in my eyes) that I didn't want to start again. I'd already worked months on it, and it was just too much to start over completely. I have other images that I can handle restarting completely, but this one is important to me. I worked so long on it before. I've already spent plenty of time fixing it, but that's what I want. I don't think the image would be the same if I restarted it.

So thanks for the help, I appreciate it :)

Ilenora

CybrGfx
07-15-2008, 10:52 AM
Here (http://www.webdesign.org/web/photoshop/articles/the-reality-of-resizing-changing-image-resolution-without-changing-quality.9741.html) is a pretty good little article about upsizing, and here (http://photoshoptipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/06/action-to-resize-sharpen-and-then.html) is an upsizing/sharpening action, although it is a newer one than the action I use, which is a few years old.

Best of success to you!

~C

DevIII
07-15-2008, 11:27 AM
looking good, I like the repaint idea alot it may not be the fastest way to finish but its always the fastest way to learn something!

but doing whats need is more important first. I think everything feels so manakined it would be nice if things were just subtly out of wack, the hand not perfectly opened or the eyes not in a straight line ectra. and everything is a bit flat too. i don't spend alot of time thinking about illistration but the best illistrations have a really dynamic sense of depth and light. the background will provide some of that, but think about it as your doing the cloths and deffinitly retouching the hair. a shadows can do wonders for dirrecting attention too!(which is why bright lights make magic so fun to look at/watch)

as far as the man hands go it could be just character I think you should focus on tighting the environment, you mentioned two extra light sources! and theres no real hint of time of day. if i had to sugest some steps id say deffinately lock in the lighting situations maybe do some ruff background and then finish up the clothing and what not.

Ilenora
07-15-2008, 12:25 PM
Here (http://www.webdesign.org/web/photoshop/articles/the-reality-of-resizing-changing-image-resolution-without-changing-quality.9741.html) is a pretty good little article about upsizing, and here (http://photoshoptipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/06/action-to-resize-sharpen-and-then.html) is an upsizing/sharpening action, although it is a newer one than the action I use, which is a few years old.

Thanks!! I really appreciate the links :)

Ilenora
07-15-2008, 01:03 PM
looking good, I like the repaint idea alot it may not be the fastest way to finish but its always the fastest way to learn something!

but doing whats need is more important first. I think everything feels so manakined it would be nice if things were just subtly out of wack, the hand not perfectly opened or the eyes not in a straight line ectra. and everything is a bit flat too. i don't spend alot of time thinking about illistration but the best illistrations have a really dynamic sense of depth and light. the background will provide some of that, but think about it as your doing the cloths and deffinitly retouching the hair. a shadows can do wonders for dirrecting attention too!(which is why bright lights make magic so fun to look at/watch)

as far as the man hands go it could be just character I think you should focus on tighting the environment, you mentioned two extra light sources! and theres no real hint of time of day. if i had to sugest some steps id say deffinately lock in the lighting situations maybe do some ruff background and then finish up the clothing and what not.

Hi, and thanks for the critique :)

I'll consider your suggestions as I work on the image some more.
Currently I've only repainted on the skin, so I understand that the clothing is fairly flat. Also, the hair is just a rough sketch to give the basic idea of its shape. They'll definitely have a lot more lighting and depth once I start repainting them.

The main source of light is coming from the magic of her raised hand, as I said in the original post. The other light is only very faint, and won't touch much at all.
I intended this image to be a 'portrait', more an artistic image than a scene, so she won't be in an environment of any sort. As such, there really won't be a time of day. Much like in this image: http://chokmah.cgsociety.org/gallery/483814/

Well, thanks again for your comments, I appreciate them ^_^

RebeccaSx
08-12-2008, 01:11 AM
How did it turn out??

Ilenora
08-12-2008, 01:30 AM
How did it turn out??

Hey there :)

Thanks. It turned out really well, I think. I haven't posted it here yet, but I have posted it up on another site here http://ilenora.deviantart.com/art/The-Secrets-of-Azaylani-93651565 if you'd like to take a look :)
I'll see about posting it here too...

Regards
Ilenora

RebeccaSx
08-12-2008, 01:45 AM
That came out awesome, I love the colours!! Which program did you use, Adobe?

Ilenora
08-12-2008, 02:04 AM
That came out awesome, I love the colours!! Which program did you use, Adobe?

Thanks so much!! I used Adobe Photoshop 7.0 :D

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