Cartoon rendering

[TobiX]

I assume you use 3D Max.... so why don´t you make yourself a cell shader

Tutorial (http://members.aol.com/forrestbro/how_cartoon.html)

or

MAX 5 has a cartoon shader built in.



Tobi

[wtoddk]

Yes...I use 3ds max 5. I know about max's cell shader, but, like I said in my first post, I'm looking into a renderer that can do more sketchy lines, like FinalToon.

[ilasolomon]

hmmm, not sure what you want exactly, but try this: I prefer this to the others.

www.davidgould.com

[sebakrembo]

skyboysky , i have been using both FinalToons AND illustrate!

The illustrate! engine might be more complete , but in the same time is a bit more complex to have full control... time consumption i guess.. further more - it will output in a variety of formats, from AI to SWF, through FH* , which is basically why i use it. an animation can be output in real vector swf....

The final render gives you fast-built in styles that works very good, and has a built in support for the real max shaders and materials, and a great control over line types...

One more surprisingly good technical render is the one built-in the ARCHICAD 8 (of sigraph)..

Archicad is an architecture design program that native supports 3ds,dwg,dxf etc... so you can impoet the object and render it there (only bitmaped formats, tiff,jpg,and bmp), i can tell you it can get you a VERY HIGH QUALITY techinical illustaration renders.. sketch like and carbon....

[izmal]

i have been illustrate and plasma (http://www.discreet.com)
illustrate is ok (like sebakrembo said) but plasma is easier..but it does have it ups and down.plasma also can import dxf,ai,3ds...etc.
but for sketchy lines, i guess FinalToon is much better..dont know bout you guys?:hmm:

* sebakrembo - i would like to know more about 'Archicad 8'.plz. i've heard about i before....thanks in advance
;)

[EricChadwick]

A few links I have sitting around...

NPR1Reyes for Max
http://www.reyes-infografica.net/npr1.php

CartoonReyes for Max
http://www.reyes-infografica.net/cartoon.php

Tomcat Toon Shader for Maya
http://www.toonshade.com/

EVA for Maya/Softimage
http://www.algorithmic.com/gallery_e.html

Huge list of online NPR resources
http://www.red3d.com/cwr/npr/

[soulburn3d]

Originally posted by skyboysky
Yes...I use 3ds max 5. I know about max's cell shader, but, like I said in my first post, I'm looking into a renderer that can do more sketchy lines, like FinalToon. Define "sketchy" lines? For example, in ink n paint (the max5 toon shader) or the toon shader that ships with brazil, you can use noise or bitmaps or whatever to modulate the thickness of your inked lines.

- Neil

[wtoddk]

wow, posm, great list of resources...especially the final one. Thanks!

soulburn3d, for me, a "sketchy" line is like a sketch, a drawing. The max5 toon shader will give you a noise-induced blobby line which is ok, but it's nothing like a sketchy drawing.

[LucentDreams]

being someone who has used a few celshaded workarounds and is helping develop a serious NPR renderer, I'd recommend for max you go with Final toon, it has the easiest flexibility. Cartooonreyes your going to find limiting pretty fast. Illustrate is quite flexible, but a little harder to achieve a wide variety of effets that final toon can. As for the sketchy look, don't assume your just going to place it on adjust a few settings and get a sketchy look. For a really good really effective sketch look you'll probably have to apply a few sepereate lines on all with their own noise levels and such, varyin opactities. I find watching people using NPR renderers, that those who can do those arts classically can typically do the most convincing cg renders. I guess its because they understand how line really work and such, I don't know.

[Levitateme]

i think tomcat is one of the best i have used, but i just render out my outlines in maya, then composite over a toon shader. are you in max? oh sorry i dont know what to reccomend for max. when i used max long ago, i think david ghoulds rendere was aamzing. i am not sure if that is still available.

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