still a litterature contest

[Carlocki]

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/Arcobalengo_bozza01 copy.jpg
a first visualization

[Carlocki]

as the first year still now we must reserve a space on paper for sponsors and title this is this year "headline"
http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/TESTALINO1_2ver copy.jpg
just a rainbow gradient some letter in liberty stile with low opacity on background
really simple to do not take space to the most important part of the billboard
here a little particular of the headline..............my signature
my eyes in one of the letter of the word Torino
The billboard will be 3 m for 3 m so the texts will be very large on the streets of the city

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/Untitled-1 copy.jpg

[Carlocki]

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/PICT0691 copy.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/PICT0663 copy.jpg

this is "La Fleur" house

[Carlocki]

modeling:

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/1%20copy.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/2%20copy.jpg

[Carlocki]

UPGRADING...

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/7%20copy.jpg
:p
http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/11%20copy.jpg
:p

[Carlocki]

I have a little dubt..
Is that the best way to model that organic decorative part (n°1)?
I'm afraid this lines between different polygons could give me problems in rendering part (n°2)?


http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/Untitled-1%202copy.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/carlocki/Archivio%20Carlo/cgtalk/Untitled-2%20copy.jpg

:surprised

[OZ]

so a gooood job.....am actually on something similar...woosh...and is not easy!!

oz:wavey:

[Carlocki]

let me see :drool:
let me seeeeeeee :drool:

:love:

[Carlocki]

some upgrades

tell me what do you thing about them :wavey:

http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/13.txt
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/16.txt

[Carlocki]

some others


http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/17.txt
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/18.txt
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/19.txt
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/21.txt
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/23.txt

[Carlocki]

a render test
http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/plovsa7.txt

[leigh]

That's coming along well, but your poly count seems really really high :surprised
You also have a lot of tri polys which can get pretty nasty... you might want to try changing those bits and trying to make quads instead.

[Carlocki]

ok about tri/quads stuff, is an unexpirence error
for reducing pol some tools on "construct" bar to suggest me ?


thanks very much

[Pancreas]

Mmmmmhhh a difficult one...

I´ts really quite hard to find a graphic expression for "rainbow of words" without painting a rainbow with the alphabet on it. :D
So i think you´ve made a great work, your idea is not so obvious, you use a local image recognizable by all the cityzens of Turin (so the local part is solved), it´s an architectonic symbol (a hint to one of the sponsors); the building is the best example of Liberty style in the city, so it´s the maximum exponent of a cultural movement wich developed all arts (as literature).
That way a colorful title acquires a more deep meaning. The direct translation from words to images is not so evident, tha rainbow as a reflection can do, but I found the "words" part more weak.

About the image, well, art nouveau curves are so esthetic they are always recognizable and nice too see. I´d chose the window you show on the 2nd photo, the corner balcony, they look more organic. But your window has a great grille beneath, so it´s good too. Maybe I´d center more on the window and frame, I´d leave the gutter out, but this depends on the poster proportions (square-rectangular). But if you close the view more on the window, the reflecion will be more clearly seen. I´m not sure about the tree shadows, by the photos you show there´s no cast shadows over that window, but this is just a point about graphic tactics and if you are aiming for realism/stylization/ etc..

Don´t worry about the polycount, if it´s only a static image and it´s gonna be printed in huge size then let the machines work. About tripolys, I don´t know if lightwave has meshsmooth...

Your signature is a subtle detail too, the artist always behind the artwork.

I hope I have explained myself, a spanish speaking to an italian in english... we should speak latin: rosa rosae. :D

Keep on updating with the progress.

[Carlocki]

Originally posted by Pancreas
Mmmmmhhh a difficult one...

I´ts really quite hard to find a graphic expression for "rainbow of words" without painting a rainbow with the alphabet on it. :D
O My god friend is so true!!!


So i think you´ve made a great work, your idea is not so obvious, you use a local image recognizable by all the cityzens of Turin (so the local part is solved), it´s an architectonic symbol (a hint to one of the sponsors); the building is the best example of Liberty style in the city, so it´s the maximum exponent of a cultural movement wich developed all arts (as literature).
That way a colorful title acquires a more deep meaning. The direct translation from words to images is not so evident, tha rainbow as a reflection can do, but I found the "words" part more weak.
The starting idea was about using the phisycal meaning of the rainbow. Now (for a time reason) I'm workin on a more simple metaphora (Is that an english word? hmm no dictionary near here !! :shame: ) I want to paint all the decorative parts with an rainbow color. I mean with decorative parts the liberty's curves in bas-relief.
I'm also thinking about put an rainbow flag hanging from the just-opened window. Turino now is filled with PEACE rainbow flag hanging from the balconies so another recall to the territory.
The "Word" part will appear in a "graphito" tag (arcobaleni di parole=rainbow of words)this is be the last recall.


I´d chose the window you show on the 2nd photo
Oh Friend don't let me think abut this!!!!!! I'm so blaming for this !!! This is my accademic flat mind!
About language I'm going to a realistic definition of the still.

Don´t worry about the polycount, if it´s only a static image and it´s gonna be printed in huge size then let the machines work.
at the end
render time is still good
Thank for All Pancreas
you are a great artist and I'm proud to know you
thanks of all.

[Carlocki]

I have reduced polygons
File was 1.4 MB now is 800 kb less or more

[harly]

Hey Carlo, I love art nouveau!!

The window on the second Pic is very nice, i would go for this one.
For the print, is the window only shown from the front ?
Why do you model so much details and don´t show them from an more interesting angle?

[Carlocki]

Hoa that's incredible
I waas thinking the same
and I found rhis (http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/scorcio.zip) is so similar to what I'm reaching.yes I'm thinking to change perspective.

[Carlocki]

so I'm still working but on this update you can see which direction I took
The windows now is the center of a big vortex made with book and old pieces of paper

i also create little lens flare of the colour of the rainbows (still not complete)

Some question
first: Does exist a tool as point clone plus+ in layout to clone the lights (is this powergon?)
How can i create a sort of vapour trail that spread with the books' vortex?

any suggestion onf light settings (soon i will post a scheme)



thanks for any further reply
still a rude w.i.p.

http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/arcobalengo/DEF41.txt

[Carlocki]

UPGRADING

http://carlocki.tripod.com/cgtalk/PLOVSA83.TXT

[golem]

ciao.
ho visto i tuoi thread e il contenuto mi è piaciuto molto. purtroppo non conosco molto bene lightwave e non posso esserti di aiuto, quindi mi limito ad incoraggiarti.

keep on!

golem

[Asgar]

Ei!Bel lavoro!E cosi sei di Torino!!Figo!Siamo in 2!!Aspetto aggiornamenti!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[harly]

Heya Carlo, I cannot answer your questions because I don´t know Lightwave, but this is definitively to much glow.
Your pic also appears very " flat" because you stick to the front perspective.
I would have a modeled a balcony to give the scenery more depht.There is too much space around the window.Work out the ornaments around and show off more arechitectonic details.

[Carlocki]

Originally posted by puuuf
Heya Carlo, I cannot answer your questions because I don´t know Lightwave, but this is definitively to much glow.
Your pic also appears very " flat" because you stick to the front perspective.
I would have a modeled a balcony to give the scenery more depht.There is too much space around the window.Work out the ornaments around and show off more arechitectonic details.
puuuf - I think the same about glow detail and balcony (just need a little more time to fit)

golem - Grazie quello che dici mi carica da morire :blush:

Asgar- WWWWWwoahhhhhhh Un amico di Torino
e si decisamente una ficata!!!
Upgrade presto

[Carlocki]

Competitions is ended
my work had been considered at second place
best thecnical stuff (they wasn't cg experts)

I'm disapointed cause you have to know the first place

soon an upgrade
I will continue the thread to find a better visualization

[Pancreas]

Congratulations for the second prize!! :beer:

Well, you know what they say about councils... ***]^# (censored by my lawyer)

[Carlocki]

THANKS PANCRY!!!

[harly]

What was the second prize?Hopefully some nice goodies....

[Carlocki]

something we can call "visibility"
a space during the manifestation (a week) in which show my own works


:beer:

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