my first illustrator| my picture

[lestikitty]

hi! im new here too but ive been drawing for years, still im no expert tho. im interested in knowing your skill level in words rather than by viewing your work. uh, like how new are you to the art world? how long have you been drawing before joining this board? any particular genre of art? ect. im wondering because i dont want to assume that youre a complete noob to illustration cuz honestly and no offense this looks like your first attempt at using, im guessing, adobe photoshop...ever. plus by knowing how much experience you have, itll be easier to guide you to a starting point in illustration.

about the picture: the contour of the drawing, which is the outlining of the person in the picture (since im not sure how much training you have in this sort of thing ^^; ), is very accurate to the original. so is the placement of the facial features. its odd to see such well done proportions compared to the shading job that you did, which leads me to the conclusion that you painted directly over the original picture. im not sure what other artists may think of that technique but in my book thats a big no no. however if thats not the case then forgive me. but, really, im pointing that out to say, if you really want to learn how to draw, then you should stay away from doing that. you dont learn to draw anything that way. it may be helpful in learning to use the program, heh, but not for drawing, no.

this is a very good effort and thats a good start in the learning process. i also want to say that in this stage of the learning process, dont concern yourself with creating beautiful works, concern yourself with learning the craft; the beautiful artwork will come in time as a result of that. i hope you take my words in a good light.




man i wish they had a newbie board around here somewhere. that would help me out alot...

[omriddons]

hey thank you for your comment like i said its my first drawing.

in photoshop im using like 4-5 years but never in drawing or illutration . about the accurat drawing i didnt knew that. i thought i need to do that. i didnt read any guide so now im learning this subject. i will be pleased to get help from you and any other illustator in this forum.
i will be glad to see your works maybe it will help me. and if you have any guide for it( like eyes nose hair-its realy important and etc')

i dont know why but with all those that are connected im not geeting posts at all (exept for you and othe man in other subject)
so please dear users i want to know your opinion its realy ment much to me.

hoping to get posts from you guys.
have a great day all.

omriddons

[Ilikesoup]

Honestly, the problem with painting over a photo is when you're using somebody else's work without giving credit to the original artist, or in pretending the work was done from scratch. You're using your own photo and you're using it only for learning purposes so there's no harm here (in my opinion). Use it only so long as you need it, though. You want to learn to paint on your own and paintovers will hinder your development.

[MrBajt]

what i would like to know is what tools you use ? a tablet ?


Next thing is, in my opinion, there are two different subjects and i practice them in two different ways :

The shape: I do NOT paint over anything to get the shape correctly. I just look and look again and draw and sketch around until it looks like it (But i myself make far too many mistakes ;) ) Something i can really recommend is Loomis' Books, check them out !

The colour : For coloring, I find it more comfortable to first pick a foto and just get over it with the colour picking tool, to see the colours. Then, after doing that a few times with different fotographs, I try it myself by memorizing and varying the colours.

If I'm wrong, please correct me guys ;)

[lestikitty]

there seems to be a language barrier here...


So you should probably know how to use photoshop pretty well. I still don't know about your drawing skill though. I still really can't tell what knowledge of illustration you already have. I probably wasn't clear enough in explaining what I wanted from you in my last comment, but don't worry about it.

When I was pointing out how accurate the proportions of your drawing were to the original image, I didn't mean that it was a bad thing. I was just mentioning it because of how good it was, I would expect the shading on the picture to be almost as good but it's not. Apart of drawing well, in my opinion, requires that you be able to correctly proportion the thing that you're drawing on your own without doing something like painting directly over an image that you're working off of. Like Ilikesoup said, "paintovers will hinder your development". I just wanted to try and make clear that part of my statement.

Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and suggest that you start off doing studies of anatomy before you try coloring. I really can't say what way of doing that would be best for you though because there's almost an unlimited number of ways of going about it. Some people just try copying pictures of people or use live models. Some artists go so far as to learn the skeletal and muscular structure of the human anatomy. Some people do sketch studies, some do speed paint studies, I think doing both is very helpful but would suggest sketches for a beginner. There are alot of posts by artists in the forums showing how they have gone about doing anatomy studies. I don't know of many references to give you since I'm still new here; however I did come across a wonderful post, Anatomy Thread of razz - 2D/3D (forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=200&t=352287), showing his methods and progress. If you browse around the forums or even the internet, I'm sure you'll find more. None of them are the same so the search would be worth it; it's interesting to see all the different ways to study anatomy.

Actually you can find all sorts of techniques here on the forums, so I've discovered myself, including techniques on coloring.

I'm hoping to see an update here of your journey in learning to draw. If you insist on doing paintovers, it's your choice so that's fine but I'm hoping that it's not so I can see completely what you can do. :)

[omriddons]

yes i know that the shading was not good its truly my first work.
tthank you all for your comments.
one thing i didnt understand i need to learn how to draw human body on paper? or on photoshop? or with program that used for it?

please answer me because im waitine for your comments.
i saw the anatomy that you sand to me . its didnt help me because i neeed to learn basicsbefore i can leearnthe finish product.

thank you all
have a good morning and nice day

omriddons

[omriddons]

no comments any more?

[siiilon]

Hi omriddons.

First of all, I would like to give you the most important hint over all others - "enjoy your learning to draw". Since we all started from zero, only those with enought patience reached their goals, dreams, whatever.
1. know your limits - try to know where your weaknesses dwell and make your hard work on them.
2. "destroy" the paper with your attempts, nobody needn't to see them, they are just for you to guide you throught the learning. Draw whenever you feel comfortable and do NOT fear about the result. I've got tons of really bad works, but you know, it's unevitable >;)
3. I preffer to learn with paper rather than tablet. No undo, no overpaintings and such.
4. Don't repeat the same things forever, try allways new things, new subjects, and when you feel unsuccess, just remember what have you learned and just switch the topic. You will return to it later with a better view.
5. Let nobody force you to stop doing what you like. Drawing is very subjective thing, we all see the same things differently and enjoy different techniques, different subjects, ... .
6. I would suggest some good tutorials, Gnomon, ImagineFX and Massive Black have fantastic ones.

As for me, the best thing I have started with was "perspective study". I don't know if it helps you as it did for me, but I suddenly started to feel better the depth of all things around me. I've been doing lots of observations, more than drawing itself, and I allways see a new things to learn. But I allways let more experienced people to give me hints. You won't became good in one month, you have to learn many diverse things and that knowledge will allways leads your hand better and better. So observe, enjoy and DRAW. >:)

Good luck!

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