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RobertoOrtiz
05-21-2003, 03:58 AM
Quote:

The Breaking News...
ADV Films, who released the Neon Genesis Evengelion anime series in the US has announced that they are working with the series producer Gainax and the great digital effects company Weta Workshop, Ltd. to produce a live action feature film based on the longlived series.

"The three main players here represent something of a 'dream-team' for a project like this one," said ADV Films President and CEO John Ledford . "Between the quality and significance of the Gainax title, Weta's industry-leading skill in the creation of special visual effects, and our expertise in the marketing and promotion of anime and anime-related content, this project is truly a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity."



Here is the link:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15264

-R

dark_lotus
05-21-2003, 04:25 AM
That would be SO COOL.

Lunatique
05-21-2003, 04:27 AM
Damn you beat me to it!!

Wigaru Wiyamoto
05-21-2003, 09:40 AM
I hope this is BS. :thumbsdow

erilaz
05-21-2003, 01:15 PM
Hmmm.... yes, i'm not sure about this. Remakes, especially animated to live remakes can sometimes go awry. It's like that Akira remake they're supposed to be making.

Scary, but it would be cool if they could pull it off. And if anyone can pull it off, it would be Weta.

MrMunkily
05-21-2003, 07:16 PM
I fear they will destroy the story and make the characters more "normal".

That's 90% of the uniqueness of EVA right there. Why would Anno every agree to this, though? If he's still involved, I wouldn't expect a completely bad result.

This is a U.S. aimed release, right?

hmm.

you can do worse than ADV, though.

Derlaine
05-21-2003, 11:53 PM
deleted text because i can't delete the post

cityhunter
05-22-2003, 02:19 AM
I don't know if it's a good idea. I remember they did a live action of gundam and the result was, in my opinion, quite wrong. I could see that they would change the design of the evas. Also consider the plot of the series, the story could not be told in two hours due to it's complexity.

Wonder who would play the characters... especially asuka? (see avatar) :D

cityhunter
05-22-2003, 02:32 AM
Just read the article, now I'm really worried.

Quote from the article:
"Neon Genesis Evangelion" is the story of a reluctant young hero, called upon to pilot an immense robotic weapon in battle against hordes of Alien Invaders.

Now just with that summary I see this project fail. All the deeper meanings of the series would be stripped from the movie. Good Work! :thumbsdow

Nando
05-22-2003, 03:31 AM
Thats Hollywood for ya :cool:

Hurray for Hollywood.. Lallla laaaal laaaaaaa laaaaaaal laaaaaaa

:annoyed:

takkun
05-22-2003, 07:44 AM
It's official:

http://www.advfilms.com/news/index.asp?id=921

With Weta and Gainax involved, I have faith that it will be very cool. :applause:

fango
05-22-2003, 08:11 AM
it s not really the license that will make or kill a good movie, it s the treatment.

X-men for example didn t go for a comic bookish adaptation and intelligently went sci fi.

LOTR on the other hand didn t go for a medieval fantasy setting but went for historic credibility.

i hope the hulk goes the psychologicla thriller way , and it seems like it from the production notes.

If they make EVA a modern thriller for example it can make it interesting (what made the series awesome was this mix of religious icongraphy, teenage introspection and character interaction a la woody allen . the robots and aliens were just an interesting setting)

MrMunkily
05-22-2003, 05:18 PM
That's right. EVA wasn't really about the Angels.

I don't know if the U.S. market could stand such an incredibly twisted and depressing story though...

Boone
05-22-2003, 09:36 PM
Look guys, it has GINAX, ADVFilms & Weta Digital making it...

ADVFilms did an excellent job of the original series and Amanda Winn Lee & her Husband know of how the fans feel about the whole EVA phenomon...they know what to do!:thumbsup:

GINAX...the creator( or whoever...) recieved death-threats for the original ending of the series...OF COURSE THEY ARE GONNA GET IT RIGHT!!!!:wip:

Weta Digital. For f***'s sake snap out of it! J Schielfier is a member of CGTalk and is a god. Along with his crew of demi-gods. End of story.:wise:

You can't ask for better than that. Anything more is just plain greedy.:shame:

My advice is to make it a "Tribute" film to the original EVA series. I'll forgive an "alternative" story as long as it takes the best elements of the series and makes a smashing film from it. :beer:

AJ
05-22-2003, 09:48 PM
J Schielfier is a member of CGTalk and is a god.

tell me... why does jschleifer allow bad things to happen?




(:p :D)

Boone
05-22-2003, 09:57 PM
Re: AJ_23.

Please enlighten us as to what these "bad things" are...:curious:

AJ
05-22-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Boone
Re: AJ_23.

Please enlighten us as to what these "bad things" are...:curious:

Why does he let people suffer? Why are there people who are starving? Why did my hamster have to die...? (etc.)

:D

slaughters
05-22-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by AJ_23
...Why did my hamster have to die...? To help those starving people....?

Boone
05-22-2003, 10:17 PM
Re: AJ_23.

Because he only works monday-to-friday, 9-to-5 and isn't responsable for the evenings & week-ends...so shit happens!:wise:

erilaz
05-23-2003, 12:05 AM
You always crack me up AJ_23.:D

MrMunkily
05-23-2003, 12:44 AM
It's true.

I do have faith - I just wonder what Anno (the dirctor of the anime and probably the reason it's so depressing) has to say about this.

jschleifer
05-23-2003, 10:24 PM
LOL!

you guys crack me up. :)


anyway, if you read the press release closely.. it says weta WORKSHOP is involved, not weta digital.. we're still chunking away on film 3! :)

However, those workshop guys.. holy mother, they kick arse!

-jas

ambient-whisper
05-23-2003, 10:28 PM
someone needs to be buttered up for that cruel joke :)

Acid Lord
05-24-2003, 07:17 AM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG you got to be kidding me??? My 2nd fav Anime all time just behind Ranma 1/2 goin to the movies OMG OMG hehe sorry but I just cant wait to hear more about this.

Boone
05-24-2003, 12:42 PM
Re: Jsheifier.

ohwww...

Is it still gonna be a great movie, though?

AJ
05-24-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Boone
Re: Jsheifier.

ohwww...

Is it still gonna be a great movie, though?

LMAO! :scream: :D

Maya Ayanami
06-02-2003, 09:29 PM
damm. am i here late.
I just want to say if they make it just another action flick and take out all of the real meat then I will be f#$*ing upset. Evangelion is by far my favorite series and I loved End of Eva. one of the things that did it for me was the depth went into the character development. I didnt really word that right(i think):shrug: but It is kind of what i mean. and there is a few other awsome things that i really aprechiated(spell check, damm i suck at spelling). but being that i am a total Eva otaku and just am in love with CG as well so i must see it. I hope they will speak true to the series. I have seen many-a-forums with this topic and almost what everyone said is that it is either going to be great shit(bad way) or greatly awsome shit(the very extreamly cool why.)

PhilOsirus
06-02-2003, 11:18 PM
"A young computer hacker discovers he is living in a virtual world made by machines." Yeah just about anything can sound bad when it is shortened like that:p

I have been waiting for the day that we would see a live-action movie with giant mechas. If the story is well writen it could be great.

Maya Ayanami
06-02-2003, 11:37 PM
well this was like a different kind of shortend. is wasnt even really right.

for reference here it is.

"Neon Genesis Evangelion" is the story of a reluctant young hero, called upon to pilot an immense robotic weapon in battle against hordes of Alien Invaders.

first of all the eva's are anywhere near being a robotic weapon they arent even robotic they are a little but it is all blood and guts on the inside.
What. "hordes of alien invaders" you say. Oh! you must mean the angels. anyways. hordes wouln't be the way I would put it. there are what. 18 angels. and they cant really be considered angels since both them and us come from the same backround and I dont think they every came from another planet or whatever. this must be(sorry to say) the worst summary of the Neon Genesis Evangelion series that I have ever seen.

and now that I have had a bit of time to think of it. if the movie turns out to be like this im not even going to watch it. i'll just take a few screen shots that I can find of the internet and use them for reference for doing some Models/textures and stuff since I've wanted to do that for a while. and I would definatly recomend this to other true Eva fans. and Americanized version of Evangelion would totally ruin Evangelion for me.


sorry i got a little whatever up there. it is just upsetting thats all.

Boone
06-03-2003, 07:08 PM
As long as it throws away the sexual content of the rather disgusting Eva movies, I'm happy...

Maya Ayanami
06-03-2003, 08:03 PM
I dont think they'll make EOE into the live action. it would be just too hard. that would be soooo much work. I dont have a problem with the adult content and dont care if they put it in there or not. Im happy just as long as they dont americanize the film.

Boone
06-03-2003, 09:07 PM
I think they should cast Vin Diesel as Shinji!

Misato : ( hands rippling up & down Mr Diesel's chest...) "Ohhhhhhhhh - Shinji! You're our ONLY hope! You must not run away..."

Shinji : "Only losers run away. An' I' ain't no loser!"


... Shinji then procedes to leave Nerv HQ without his EVA...accompanied by an awesome heavy-rock-electrical-guitar soundtrack and beats the living shit out of the attacking Angel...

...Shinji walks back into Nerv HQ...male Nerv Staff cheering, "Whata guy!", female Nerv Staff trying to rip his clothes off....:applause:

Maya Ayanami
06-03-2003, 09:21 PM
Oh my god. its as i feard.:cry:

thats what im talking about.

P_T
06-04-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Boone
As long as it throws away the sexual content of the rather disgusting Eva movies, I'm happy...

i don't remember seeing any demonic penis tentacles or anything like that in EVA... wat's so disgusting??

wat is it with some people and sexual content in a movie?? if it has sexual content then it's for mature audiences... are u not mature enough to face sexuality? or is your life really that sheltered?? do u throw up or do u get a boner when u see a sex scene in a movie?

Maya Ayanami
06-04-2003, 05:35 AM
Their really wasnt much in there. I think the only thing you can really consider too adult was the opening scene. but can you blame him. really. he has been really living with his teacher every since his mother died. right. and has never really had any friends. he is an A class loser. and the only person. uhg. i wont get into it right now. but there is this really hot young girl lying almost fully nude right in front of him. like she cares. she has been apealing to him throughout the whole series every once in a while. but it really does depend on how they show these scenes. if it is just one of those things just to get the viewers all hot then it will suck and bring the whole movie down. I dont think this is how then did it in EOE though.

of course everyone has their own opinions and that is why we are here. right.



I really liked the both episodes 25 and 26 tv and 25, 26 movie. especially the Movie since it had so much detail that it'll take me a while to figure it all out.


Im just curious. but what exatly do you not like in the movie. in the discusting way you mentioned. yes. please explain yourself.

Boone
06-04-2003, 07:28 PM
Re: Maya Ayanami.

First I want to say that the original TV series was in a word perfect. Wonderful. A totally life changing experience!

Now...lets talk about the movies...:annoyed:

Movie 1 = Death.

Pretty much a recap of the TV series. Nicely done. No problems here...

Movie 2( and partly ep.25 remake...) = Rebirth.

Oh dear. Less than 5-minutes into the film and Shinji is...well...lets just say he's in a hospital room with Auska. Not suitable for younger EVA fans...

Other than that, this one carrys on in a totally stupid "Gung-ho" marine-war film...although it had a few classic moments...

Movie 3 = End of Evangelion.

1) Rei on top of Shinji.
2) The strange eva-series impaling themselves on spikes.
3) Gendo handling Rei's breast.
4) Misato snogging Shinji( christ, she might as well just bonked his brains out and be done with it! ).

...and a whole load of stuff I can't be bothered to list here!

The only redeming bit of this film is the last bit when its just Shinji and Auska(?)...I love that bit!

I personnally feel that the original series ended with a message saying "The only thing that holds you back is your point of view...you don't have to live in a dark world all the time".

The movies however...god knows what message they were trying to give us but all I saw was loads of sexual references! Are they trying to say "To live a happy life you must bonk and reproduce?"

I just think that the movies was a different world to that of the series...I'm just soooo disapointed.:annoyed:

urgaffel
06-05-2003, 12:56 AM
...what's wrong with bonking and reproducing?








j/k

Joviex
06-05-2003, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by urgaffel
...what's wrong with bonking and reproducing?

j/k

When it has a point, not a thing, when it is a half assed attempt to make a once interesting series into a semi-adult, hey we can do soft porn too, movie.... lameness. Might as well cut out the middle man and go down to TODD ADULT VIDEO and get something good, rather than wade through a pubescent PG13 vid fest.

JMO.

Boone
06-05-2003, 06:46 PM
Re: Amorano.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. The EVA series could be watched by just about everyone...except for small children. However the Films had a very adult theme...many scenes were way too unsuitable for the younger fan base.

This is pretty much what I dislike about the movies...:thumbsdow

Maya Ayanami
06-06-2003, 05:59 AM
I guess I can understand what you people are talking about. I personally dont see anything wrong with it. though I have no idea why in the world Rei was sitting on top of Shinji for. and dont really see a point yet. there might be one. but i dont know. probably not.

the only thing that i didnt really like is that they didn't finish examining all of the Characters. it it them all(kinda) then did Shinji and said there was not enough time to do the rest. I think they should just finish them. really is it going to hurt. They would make a bit of money right. or am i the only one who wants them to finish it.


Hey. I have a question. what did you guys think of their selection of music through out the series.
I really liked most of it. or all of. cool stuff. I think this is the only anime I have ever seen with classical or what ever you want to call it type of music. whatever.



in that first bit with Shinji doing his thing. it just tells you how low and depressed he is. I felt sorry for him. it must suck. come on. he had hit an all time low by far and for someone like Shinji this is really damm low. I bet the happiest time in his life would be equall to a normal persons average day. I am ofcourse talking about after his mothers death. what a poor case.

Maya Ayanami
06-06-2003, 06:10 AM
oh. and about all of them young people. I dont even think that this series as a whole is a good thing for kids.
what i mean is that a bit more than halfway through it stops being simple and starts being complicated and there is not as much action scenes. I think after most kids watch all of Evangelion the just go. ahhh. that anime sucked ass. and they will never give it another chance. but the action is quite good though.

I like Eva most for .....
I dont know how i should say this.....
I guess i could say the character development. and everyone is more screwed up than I am.... what else.. oh. and well i guess i can just say the whole story is awsome.


but i do know some people that hate Neon Genesis just because Shinji is a loser. at least you guys have a more understanding reason. keep in mind that I am not saying you guys hate Eva. im just saying because of some things that you explained quite well.:applause: that you dislike End of Eva.

but i for one like the whole thing. I guess now I would probably take out maybe 1 or two of those naughty scenes. I damm happy that they didnt ruin it for me the it did for you.

I have a feeling I am repeating myself.:wavey:

Boone
06-07-2003, 08:07 AM
Re: Maya Ayanami.

Well...I suppose they did give us two endings to choose from!:beer:

I think I'll always love the original series...Oh, yeah! There is one bit that makes me curl up with anger on "Death"...

The bit where Karouw( I think thats how you spell it?) says the exact line "...and your's is not the race that must die". The original series dub made it sound as though he had a slight bit of reget, sadness, as though he wanted to stay with Shinji, in his voice...

...but in the movie "Death", the re-dub sounds flat & emotionless, nothing to it...which really gets my goat. Add to the fact that on the audio commentary, Amanda Winn Lee starts prasing the re-dub! Is she taking the "mickey"???:mad:

Favourite music from the saga? Hmm...I've got a list!

1) Tamashi no Rufuran( end-credits "Rebirth").
2) The classical music when Eva-01 simply looks at Karuow in his hand( before he pops his head off! ).
3) The "angel attacks" - starts off with a simple, spine tingling piano note!

...as you can guess, episode 24 is my favourite episode!:thumbsup:

kwshipman
06-07-2003, 06:52 PM
jschleifer or any one else that has an answer

wasnt there a post a while back about WETA doing the Cronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis? If that one is true which weta division is doing that and how mand weta's are there and how do you guys find time to do all of these movies. Narnia is like 6 books?

Boone
06-07-2003, 06:58 PM
Re: Kwshipman.

Tales of Narnia...should be great.:thumbsup:

Icestar
06-09-2003, 01:00 AM
Eva was always about a lil controversy to me...pushing the limits.
Well why worry about the movie for? There's no point. If it's good we'll cherish it and if it's bad then it'll go down as a little embarassment that'll be easily forgotten soon enough. The problem will always stem from the decision to cash in and therefore, change things to try and attract a more general audience. The only thing we have to wonder is wheither this will be a movie for the cash or a movie for the fans or a movie that will add to the eva world. In the end if the movie stinks there will always be one truth. The TV series will always rock and has already proven itself.

melchior_
06-09-2003, 01:48 PM
here is some pre-production art from weta.
http://www.ag.wakwak.com/~lay/img-box/img20030608102137.jpg
...looks interesting

Maya Ayanami
06-09-2003, 06:09 PM
like you said interesting. The desings are quite different though. is that city with all of the water supposed to be Tokyo-3(hmm. Tokyo-3 is the name of the city Nerv is in right). im not so sure about this but I dont remember seeing an ocean around during the series. i could be wrong. it has been a while since i have seen the series. but i did watch EOE again yesterday and I remember being that shooken up that much before. Damm. why am i soo weird.

like i said it looks interesting. i dont mind if they chang the Eva's desings a bit but the original plug suit desing ( I think) should stay they same.

what do you think.

Boone
06-09-2003, 08:04 PM
Re: IceStar.

I'll drink to that!:beer:

Boone
06-09-2003, 08:08 PM
Re: Melchior.

Hmmm...I think its safe to say its got a girl in red in the movie!

If that link is genuine, then I think they have the situation in hand...:cool:

Boone
06-09-2003, 08:10 PM
Opps - Sorry but I just had another thought!

Do you guys reckon that this is going to be the first in a series of movies? I've just got this funny feeling about this...

melchior_
06-09-2003, 08:59 PM
The Evas are looking pretty good from what I can see in those tiny pics and I'm sure Weta will pull off a good job, but I'm also hoping they don't change the character designs too much. The original plug-suits were always awesome, and asuka in short pigtails? :eek: hehe, and I wanna see some REI! I'm really curious how she'll look.
Boone: the Eva series would fit nicely into a trilogy. Then you could have both the obligatory angel/eva fight scenes with a good intro and setup, but also have the psychological, crazy, world goes to hell in a handbasket stuff eva is known for. One movie seems too short to fit all that in, it seems they'd have to go one way or the other. The last eps and movies were much more intense because we had all the buildup and familiarty with the characters. But if it were only to be one movie it'd probably go the intro and fighting one or two angel route cuz popping a new audience into a live action End of Eva just wouldn't seem to work.
I hope they put a good emphasis on character development and not just huge eva/angel fighting. But hey, more Eva stuff, it's looking good :drool:

Boone
06-09-2003, 09:24 PM
To be honest I'm not concerned with changes in plot and characters as long as it holds true to what made Eva so special...

AUSKA IN PIG-TAILS!!!:bounce:x100 :drool:x1000 :love:x1,000,000

3danim8d
06-09-2003, 09:38 PM
Melchior_

What issue of NewType did that scan come from?


Thanks,


Jeff

melchior_
06-09-2003, 10:36 PM
Newtype Japan issue 7, 2003 (July Issue)

3danim8d
06-09-2003, 10:44 PM
Cool thanks, I have to get that issue now...


Jeff

MosaFacku
06-09-2003, 10:44 PM
please don't have whiney shenji....please don't have whiney shenji....

melchior_
06-09-2003, 11:03 PM
please dont' have a white shinji... please don't have a white shinji named shawn... :wip:

MosaFacku
06-09-2003, 11:21 PM
LOL

:beer:

Maya Ayanami
06-10-2003, 07:04 AM
Hey melchior_ and Boone I couldnt agree with you more. so original story and characters is main priority then style. this is what i got from what you said. and this is also what i believe too.

is it just me or is Asuka not type of person to wear pig tails. she isnt the pig tail type. well at least it seems that way to me.


and what melchior_ said about the movie series thing. hmm. I hope they do do that. there is really no way they can make another End of Eva for just one movie or if it is a series even at the end cause youll loose a lot of viewers it would prolly only atract Eva fans and a few CG people so the can see what is going on.
there are a lot of questions in this area cause if it is just one movie they might lose a lot of Eva fans since you cant really develop the characters in a 2 hour flick. or youll loose all the non Eva fans cause it is going over everyones heads.


wat you tink.:shrug:

Confracto
06-10-2003, 08:10 AM
wow, found out about this today...almost had a heart attack....the news itself is totally incredible...I'm still not too sure whether it's good or bad though.

first off, of course they're going to change the designs of everything slightly, it's called marketing. It means they can make new models, new action figures, new posters, the works, and sell all of them AS WELL. I also noted the page up there that had the UNIT-00 head had teeth in it...so they're not straying far, and as I recall, the idea that the EVA's are NOT robots was meant to be something of a suprise, something new and different.

(read the cover of the first VHS/DVD...you'll see what I mean)

as far as hordes of alien invaders, I'm hoping they're meaning 'alien' in the literal sense, meaning 'stranger', it'd actually be really cool if they played it out in a 'hang-on, you mean these guys we've been fighting thoughout the movie are really ANGELS? WTF?!' ...that in itself would be very eva-like in my opinion.

What I'm really hoping for is a Story that DOESN'T suck ass, like the FF movie did. ...I'm still horrified by how terrible that plot was.

and honelsty, after things like the Matrix, I think audiences here will be more susceptable to something like this.

Besides, I've yet to see anyone do Giant Scale fighting and what not like They've done here in EVA.

Honestly, I'm thinking the plot will just be an alternate, 2 hour version. What I'm hoping is that they leave the religious references in there. I'm a Christian and honelsty, they didn't bother me one bit, I ENJOYED it quite a bit, knowing it was simply a fantasy BASED on reality. I loved it's Differences from what IS.

now that I think about it...I'm realizing it's going to progress in a similar fashion to FF...basically, it'll look freaking cool, and gather hype, and it's all going to boil down the the story, which will make it or break it, in a rather exteme way.

and from what I recall, Anno didn't care about the death threats and all, in fact, I seem to understand that DEATH AND REBIRTH are as mind-bending as the last 2 ep's because he was trying to prove the point that he REALLY doesn't care, and want's to make what he wants to make...the main issue involved at the time (of the last 2 ep's) was funding.

and one last thing, Amanda Winn Lee rocks. Most of you probably don't realize that the ENGLISH DUB of the movies was totally her doing. The reason they took so long is that she did all the translation herself, out of her own pocket. ( I know all this because I was at the first public showing of the movies, which she introduced, and talked a great length about).



...I have a NERV parking permit! :D

Boone
06-10-2003, 06:44 PM
Re: MosaFacku.

Shinji is being played by Vin Diesel:cool:

melchior_
06-10-2003, 10:02 PM
ok, i read that at a ADV panel in A-kon that the movie is going to be a escaflowne-ish retelling of the story, so no trilogy probably.

Confracto
06-11-2003, 03:24 AM
Figured, makes sense, and releiving to know....

the esca-movie was cool.

Maya Ayanami
06-11-2003, 03:49 AM
hhmm. iteresting. i was under the impression that her husband helped out as well. wait.. she is married right.
I guess it doesnt really matter much.

Escaflowne was a pretty sick moive(in the good way)

Maya Ayanami
06-11-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Boone
Re: MosaFacku.

Shinji is being played by Vin Diesel:cool:


are you sereous:surprised

Boone
06-11-2003, 07:53 PM
Re: Maya Ayanami.

But of course!:bounce:

Just imagine when they re-do that hospital( the one where Shinji...over Asuka...moving on) scene...

Shinji( Vin! ) : "Asuka...whats wrong? I need you...snap out of it, kid!"

Auska( waking up to Mr Diesel's handsome and rugged voice...) : "Huh...where am I? OH MY GOD ITS VIN DIESEL!!!"

Asuka leaps out of bed like a liberated frog and starts humping Mr Diesel's leg...

Director : "Cut!!! Thats not in the script! Someone pull her off the high-paid actor's leg please!"


Evangelion: The Movie contiunes to suffer cut-backs on it's release due to Asuka not being able to control herself...:rolleyes:

Confracto
06-11-2003, 10:06 PM
Yes, Amanda Winn Lee is married (thus the 2 last names)
and yes, her husband did help out, but from what I'd gathered, 90% of the work was done by her.

zappenduster
10-20-2004, 03:55 AM
hmm nearly 10 months gone so are there any news on the movie last thing i heard was in june that they where checking out some directors but maybe thats already decided now

so did anyone here something new ?

Joe_H
10-20-2004, 01:30 PM
At this point, I would be shocked if this ever gets made. One, it's a huge gamble. Two, it will cost a ton of money. Three, unless something has occurred recently, no studio or backer has offered to pony up the money to accept this gamble. Four, no writer or director has been assigned, again, unless something happened recently.

Boone
10-20-2004, 06:26 PM
Re: Joe_H.

This film would take NOTHING to make. The only gamble is whether the subject material is justified for the general cinema-going audience.

So lets break that down...

1) Its a film about young people "fighting evil" - Teenage superhero movies are all the rage according to movie execs.

2) Growing pains - the young person thang' again. Its also in demand.

3) VFX bonanza! If it ain't got epic visuals - forget it. But in Eva's case, you can't get any bigger than big mechs doing their shit!

4) Eva - as one CGTalker put it - is little more than an Otaku's wet dream. Wet dreams liberate money from the Audiences pockets.

5) Gainax, ADVision and Weta Workshop are all onboard( unless one of them has dropped out...) - Two of them are major big news...

...from a business point of view - this would be passed in an instant! Studio execs don't care about one or two whining fanatics who say "it'll never live up to the original series!". Butchered or not - this WILL come out. :hmm:

WillRyan
10-20-2004, 07:05 PM
From what I've read other people rumoring about , Weta is again using huge miniature sets, ie. bigatures, to build much of the surroundings for King Kong. The going rumor is that most of these will be redressed and repurposed for the Evangelion movie as well. So I'm guessing the plan is to shoot as much of the mech battles in real environments,then comp in the cg Eva units. I can't wait to see the first shots of Eva's in combat!

twidup
10-20-2004, 07:10 PM
see, the whole thing on this, its between ADV and Weta Workshop, NOT weta Digital. so Digital currently will not be involved in it at all.

From what ppl were saying there, it was going to be all bigatures, with little to no cg and it had a VERY low budget

Boone
10-20-2004, 07:22 PM
Re: Twidup.

Well, Weta Digital don't have to be involved. IMHO I reckon they will get another studio to do the CG Evas. CG is cheap these days, so don't rule it out just yet...

Saying that, though - I would really get excited about the prospect of using "Actors-in-suits"! I'd love to see it happen with todays technology! Enhanced with additional CGI and composition from footage using High-speed cameras - WOW! Eva would rock the house!:bounce:

Joe_H
10-21-2004, 02:13 AM
VFX bonanza! If it ain't got epic visuals - forget it. But in Eva's case, you can't get any bigger than big mechs doing their shit!
That and the fact that it's a visual effects extravaganza and epic, would absolutely make a live version of this incredibly expensive. At least as much as Star Wars or LOTR. Well in excess of 100 million.

Digital currently will not be involved in it at all.
I hope you don't honestly think a live action version of Evangelion won't use any CG. In fact, it would require a lot of CG. Just because Weta is using miniatures on Kong doesn't mean anything. They used them on LOTR. ILM used more miniatures on both prequels than were used in any of the original Star Wars films. But both ended up having a lot of CG.

I also don't see how Weta using miniatures on Kong has anything to do with a possible Evangelion film. They can't just up and make miniatures for both films, considering Evangelion isn't approved yet, and the fact that they are completely different films.

Gainax, ADVision and Weta Workshop are all onboard( unless one of them has dropped out...) - Two of them are major big news...
Can you please show me some sources, so I can read up on this. From what I've read, no studio has agreed to back this. No director or writer has even been hired. So how can Weta and ADVision be on board a film that isn't even greenlighted yet? From what I've read, all Weta did was create some pre-production artwork on a possible Evangelion film. That doesn't mean they are on board. Any director that is hired would likely have a say in which effects house(s) would do the work, and the studio would likely put out bids for effects houses. Highly doubtful they just hand it over to Weta.

I'm not saying you are wrong, just asking for some sources, because I haven't heard the film has even been greenlighted.

Last but not least, this is based on anime, and that in and of itself usually spells death in American cinemas. So considering all of this, it is a hefty risk. I'm not saying it won't get made, but at this point it certainly wouldn't suprise me.

I would like to see it, but personally I'm more hopeful Cameron will make Battle Angel Alita.:)

zappenduster
10-21-2004, 05:39 AM
Can you please show me some sources, so I can read up on this. From what I've read, no studio has agreed to back this. No director or writer has even been hired. So how can Weta and ADVision be on board a film that isn't even greenlighted yet? From what I've read, all Weta did was create some pre-production artwork on a possible Evangelion film. That doesn't mean they are on board. Any director that is hired would likely have a say in which effects house(s) would do the work, and the studio would likely put out bids for effects houses. Highly doubtful they just hand it over to Weta.

I'm not saying you are wrong, just asking for some sources, because I haven't heard the film has even been greenlighted.


adv films had the news on its own page stating that they are planing this movie, i cant remember correctly if they also announced the weta deal but i think so

At this point, I would be shocked if this ever gets made. One, it's a huge gamble. Two, it will cost a ton of money. Three, unless something has occurred recently, no studio or backer has offered to pony up the money to accept this gamble. Four, no writer or director has been assigned, again, unless something happened recently.

1.point just think of lord of the rings, spideman and so on each of these movies where a huge gamble (maybe i get this wrong but i think the studio that did finance lotr would have faced bankruptcy if the movies wouldnt be that success)
2. see point 1 gamble with huge amount of money
3. see point 2 high risk means high wins (or loss)
4. thats what i wanted to know in june they where at a state where they tried to find the right director, so maybe now 2 or 3 people are in the inner circle of choices

zappenduster
10-21-2004, 05:44 AM
just did search the web a little and found this page with some interesting info just check it out http://eva.trivialbeing.net

Boone
10-21-2004, 10:06 PM
Re: Joe_H.

I too got my info from the ADVision website.

From that link provided by ZappenDuster - its got a mind-blowing budget of 100million... :eek: ...so there you have it!

WillRyan
10-26-2004, 05:08 PM
The sets that were being built for Kong would be redressed for Evangelion, much like soundstages for non-effects films getting reused between scenes in the same movie. Think about it this way: Kong trouncing thru a Japanese city, or an Evangelion unit defending one. The infrastructure of the miniature could be quite similar, with the exterior of the actual buildings being swapped out.

Boone
01-01-2005, 08:55 PM
Urrr...I'm now starting to - dare I say it - "like" the Eva movies? :surprised

Whats the status of this film, now? :shrug:

colinbear
01-02-2005, 01:16 AM
From what I've read other people rumoring about , Weta is again using huge miniature sets, ie. bigatures, to build much of the surroundings for King Kong. The going rumor is that most of these will be redressed and repurposed for the Evangelion movie as well.
The sets that were being built for Kong would be redressed for Evangelion, much like soundstages for non-effects films getting reused between scenes in the same movie. Think about it this way: Kong trouncing thru a Japanese city, or an Evangelion unit defending one. The infrastructure of the miniature could be quite similar, with the exterior of the actual buildings being swapped out.
ahh.. gotta love rumors. always so far from the truth :wise:

WillRyan
01-02-2005, 03:15 AM
Sorry if they weren't true colinbear. A friend of mine interviewed for a job at a studio overseas that he said was bidding on some of the Evangelion work. That was what he had heard at the time. That's why I tried to mention them as rumors, but I probably did a poor job saying so. The way it was described to me made sense, especially after hearing that Weta Workshop had done some prelim work on Eva. Maybe he and I both are just excited at the thought of people of the caliber of Weta working on a project as interesting as Eva!

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