W.I.P. - water, rock, grass

[RiKToR]

To absolutely honest, I like the original concept mood rather then the two finished ones. The stormy like clouds with a little golden sunlight peeking through has a better feel to it in my opinion.

[mistry]

I like the contast better in Version 2 :)

[RQuack]

I agree with Cliff, I like the first matte, it works better for me at least, but they still aren't quite up with the concept, I like the dark against the light. :thumbsup:

[TomasWarren]

I think they're both pretty good, at a push i think the 2nd one is better. I think what you should be aiming to do now is to incorporate more of the lighting from the concept into the finished paintings. Eg, the purplish/yellow/orangey light values spread across the concept image aren't really prevalent in the photoreal versions just yet,.

I also think compositionally, the concept has some interesting background hills which aren't there as much in the other two

[kbarts]

Thank your suggestions!
2 votes for 1st and 2 votes for 2nd. It is draw :)
I know the concept is hes a stronger mood. I always have the problem when I create a matte that I want to stay the picture more believable.

[roguenroll]

number one

[nickmarshallvfx]

Ive always thought that your work as a concept was more successful than when you made them into a matte, but this has cahnged my mind. The concept is great as always, but the matte is beautiful too, very hard to crit. My personal preferance is for matte number 1, i think it has a nicer mood and just works great. Id love to see you extend that one to incorporate some of the more fantasy rock shapes from the sketch, and keep a more realistic matte and a more fantasy matte from the same sketch.

Nick

[memod]

I will have to agree with some of the posts, that the original concept sketch looks better...it had a lot more character than the mattes do. I think you should definitely try to translate some of that mood and lighting, as well as the colours into your mattes. It would probably help to watch the relations of scale of your objects...in the concept your rocks seem a lot bigger compared to the water, and more aggressive... and I like that the hill on the left reaches up to the very border of the image.

Also, I feel that you need to integrate the forground in your mattes, the water and the rocks a little better...they don't quite feel there yet. I think especially the rock shapes are sort of roundish, they do not match the rocks of the photo elements in the background, and the close up water is a bit harsh while the water further on the left looks more sketchy. But I suppose you are still working on it there, adding in reflections and such.

Last but not least...if you want to leave the mattes as they are, without bringing them closer to the concept, I'd say go with number 1, as it is more moody, more toned down...it actually allows you to cast a nice light, if you want to, to really bring up what you want to epmhasize. You could warm up the sunlight and really give it a nice low evening sun that shines through the hills, allowing for long shadows, lots of mood and a nice contrast between warm light and sunlight.
But that is up to you, was just throwing out some thoughts there :D

Daniel

[kbarts]

Thanks the helpful crits. When i will have time for personal work i will update it.

[Warder]

well 3 seems a little more impresive than the others but I really like 2 for some reason. awesome job!!

[kbarts]

A little update:
http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte_c_2.jpg

[memod]

small changes, but they already improve the piece a lot, I think. the composition now definitely looks more interesting, and the tall rock on the left allows for more play with a hidden sun.

Keep it up!
Daniel

[kbarts]

Thank you.
I tried to add ruins but it did not work. i do not know what can i do whit this matte. I do not want to make it too busy.

[memod]

yeah, don't make it too busy, there's no need for that. I'd say, try to play up the lighting, integrate some elements better, and perhaps add a somewhat more massive rock to the right to prevent the eyes from going off-canvas.
If you don't know, what you want to do with the piece, I suggest taking a break from it, or trying to work out the concept more in little thumbnail sketches. at least that's what I tend to do when I am stuck.... I just have my sketchbook with me all the time, so on the train or in the café I just try to approach my idea in different ways.

Daniel

[nickmarshallvfx]

KBarts - You had this shot nailed before your update. The update is nice, but i dont think its adding much to the shot.
Im loving this work so id love to see something new now!

Nick

[kbarts]

Thanks friends!


i think now it is finished:

http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte_c_final_800.jpg

link to the higher resulution (http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte_final_1200.jpg)

And there are some w.i.p. picture from the start:
http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte01.jpg

http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte02.jpg

http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte03.jpg

http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte04.jpg

http://kbarts.hu/tmp2/matte2/matte05.jpg

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