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dnashj33
05-24-2008, 05:38 PM
In view of yesterday's hallmark ruling against Autodesk:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080523-court-smacks-autodesk-affirms-right-to-sell-used-software.html

How does Maxon treat licenses of C4D? Can they be re-sold later if you decide not to use it any longer? Does it use a dongle? Lightwave has a good "no-hassle" policy in this regard, and you can sell the license at any time (just have to have a letter from the original owner notifying them that the license is indeed being sold/transferred to another person). Wherever the dongle goes, the license goes.

I'm about fed up with Autodesk (for a number of reasons), and will probably be switching ASAP to either C4D (I already use finalRender for Max, so that would be a plus and I like what I see in MoGraph), XSI or a Lightwave/Modo combination.

Thanks guys

fluffouille
05-24-2008, 06:00 PM
Yes, Maxon allows its users to transfer their license to a new owner.
This is simply done by contacting them and notifying of the change (I think there's also a change in serials, but I'm not sure).
As far as I know, this is pretty straightforward.

Erik Heyninck
05-24-2008, 06:02 PM
Maxon does not use a dongle for Cinema. You get a temporary license and after registering, you get a permanent one.

You can sell the software if you don't keep it installed on your computer. A letter to Mmaxon about the transfer to someone else is all you have to do.

For more details, you can contact Maxon themselves.

bobtronic
05-24-2008, 06:04 PM
It's no problem to re-sell Cinema4D/BodyPaint3D licenses. MAXON uses serial numbers for their products.

cheers,
Matthias

Srek
05-24-2008, 06:31 PM
NFRs and academical licenses are usualy not transferable, but normal commercial licenses are.
The only thing that needs to be done is that the seller (or original buyer) needs to inform MAXON of the transfer. MAXON offers a transfer form for this on request. The transfer form is not a must, but handy for all partners in the transfer.
MAXON uses a serial number scheme that works in two steps.
If you buy a new license from MAXON or a reseller you get the box that includes a sheet with temporary serials. Those serials are valid for three months. Within this time you will need to register online (or via FAX, snailmail etc.) to receive the final serials. Usualy this process is done in less then two workdays, but shit happens so you should not wait until the very last moment.
After you received the final serials you are completely independent in the use of your software. No lost dongle or online activation scheme will keep you from working. Only in the case that you loose your serials for whatever reason you need to contact MAXON again so they can send them to you again.
Technical support for MAXON software is free of charge and is handled via mail or phone.

Cheers
Björn

dnashj33
05-24-2008, 07:03 PM
Thanks everyone...that's good to know. I have a few other quick questions I'd like to throw your way, if you don't mind.

1) Any thoughts on finalRender Stage 2, good or bad? I already mentioned that I use finalRender (Stage 1 R2) for Max, and am tickled with it. Not sure if it's an entirely different creature inside C4D though.
Does the new Interactive Renderer using FR as well as the Advanced Renderer, by chance? If so, that would be huge (as Max STILL has nothing like it available anywhere)

2) Any word as to whether Thinking Particles 3 will either be included in r11 or even available for C4D anytime soon?

3) Can anyone point out some good tutorials that specifically cover Motion Graphics techniques (seeing that C4D with MoGraph is used so heavily in the industry). I've been more of a 3D generalist and have been awed by the level of work that I'm seeing coming from the better Motion Graphics studios here in the LA area, among others abroad.

I did a Google search, but didn't find anything noteworthy yet

Thanks again :thumbsup:

fluffouille
05-24-2008, 07:12 PM
1) Final Render for C4D covers most of what the Max version can offer, but has some unique features as well.
Other than that, it's the same product and will output the same GI renderings.
Just check the official Cebas forum for more information.
*edit*
And yes, it works fine with the interactive render.

2) My guess is not anytime soon. I would love to, though.

3) Cineversity offers some free Mograph tutorials : http://www.cineversity.com/tutorials/index.asp?cid=2

Horganovski
05-24-2008, 11:13 PM
There's a very thorough series of video tutorials for MoGraph by Mylenium over on CreativeCow Here (http://leaders.creativecow.net/leaders/mylenium/)

HTH,
Cheers,
Brian

Srek
05-25-2008, 05:52 AM
2) Any word as to whether Thinking Particles 3 will either be included in r11 or even available for C4D anytime soon?
Cebas is free to port TP 3 to CINEMA 4D, but the TP in CINEMA 4D is maintained by MAXON, not cebas. While having the same base the two products differ in many ways.
If you already know TP for max you might take a look at the CINEMA 4D demo to see how it works there.
Thanks to Xpresso and Mograph TP is tightly integrated into CINEMA 4D, different to TP for max.
Cheers
Björn

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