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jussing
05-17-2008, 08:12 PM
Hey all!

My plan is to make a spacebattle between alien mothership/flying saucers and spaceshuttles from earth. Think Independence Day meets Return of the Jedi, with a twist of Moonraker. :)

I hope to have time to do a huge Particle Flow based space battle with lasers, missiles and tons of explosions..... Buuuuuuut that's not a very realistic goal to finish in little over a month, from now on.

So I'll start by focusing on the mothership, and if that's all I get done, I'll change my entry to 90's tribute and do and Independence Day-style arrival shot.

Right now I'm working on the greeblies. I'm completely ripping off the old Death Star technique, where they designed and modelled 8 tiles of greeblie surface, molded them and made dozens of copies. Then they could create large surfaces covered in space greeblies.

Here's a screenshot of what I have so far. You can see the repeating tiles pretty obviously, so I need to model some more. Also, I plan to mirror and rotate them differently - in this screenshot, they're all aligned, which makes the duplication more obvious.

Cheers,
- Jonas
jussing
05-17-2008, 08:42 PM
Lighting test. I think the technique is holding up. I wonder how it's going to look when applied to a mothership shape.

- Jonas
D-3
05-17-2008, 09:22 PM
wellcome jussing! good start! you will use full model os greeblies? or you will use heightmaps of greeblies? keet it!
c ya!
jussing
05-17-2008, 09:54 PM
Hey D-3, thank you. :) The plan is to use full geometry of greeblies, but let's wait and see what my CPU says when I fill a whole spaceship with them. :)

- jonas
D-3
05-17-2008, 10:45 PM
hehe ok!! wait your CPU kkk i´m a poor guy working on a athlon64 x2 4.400 whit 2 gb of ram kkkk i´m really need a new CPU kkk
c ya!
jussing
05-19-2008, 08:01 AM
......what's with all the k's? :)
D-3
05-19-2008, 09:03 AM
sorry!! kkk = lol, some times i´m really forget to whrite lol, kkkk you know!!
up´s?
Trenox
05-19-2008, 12:43 PM
Hey Jussing its comming along great. Looking forward to some oldschool space ship action =)
jussing
05-19-2008, 01:06 PM
Hey Trenox!

Looking forward to some oldschool space ship action =)

Yea, it even looks like plastic right now, doesn't it... :D I've been thinking about not texturing it. What do you think?

MAN, Star Wars is the reason I'm doing 3D in the first place, and I've NEVER made a spaceship yet! I'm so looking forward to this.

- Jonas
henrikbc
05-19-2008, 02:07 PM
Nice :D and oldschool. Looking forward to some mothership designs.
Have you deviced a fancy technique of placing the seperate elements on different surfaces or are you going gung-ho manual style?
jussing
05-19-2008, 02:35 PM
Nice :D and oldschool. Looking forward to some mothership designs.
Have you deviced a fancy technique of placing the seperate elements on different surfaces or are you going gung-ho manual style?I'll tell you when I know! :D

The examples posted above are made with a simple 10x10 plane, and a particle system that places particles at all vertices. All the geometry tiles are part of a group, and that group is applied as instanced geometry in the particle system.

But.... that won't really work with a curved surface... so in the end, I think I'll just create a large square pattern with particles (like the above screenshots, but ten times larger), convert it to geometry and then bend and wrap that to fit where I need it.

- Jonas
jussing
05-20-2008, 04:26 PM
Hey all, here's an animation test of how the greeblies behave when applied to a surface.

This is a "dirty" example where the tiles are slapped carelessly onto each other, with lots of intersection. The final spaceship will be more carefully modelled.


CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD 1MB QUICKTIME

http://www.duck.dk/cgi/jussing_invasion_wip_01.jpg
(http://www.duck.dk/cgi/jussing_invasion_wip_01_web.mov)

- Jonas
henrikbc
05-20-2008, 04:37 PM
Nice! Good physical feel to it. Will look nifty with small lights lit across the sections - especially in the shadow side.

However, right now it looks a bit like coral reefs. Even though people may move in all 3 dimensions on the spaceship, it may prove prudent to have some rules for what is pointed up, sideways, etc. if you follow me?

But great progress - and still nice real model feel to it. :)
jussing
05-20-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks, Henrik!

However, right now it looks a bit like coral reefs. Even though people may move in all 3 dimensions on the spaceship, it may prove prudent to have some rules for what is pointed up, sideways, etc. if you follow me?
Haha, I noticed that too, but I was thinking about using it rather than going against it. You know, you race along a "floor", towards a wall, and then bank up so the wall becomes the new floor....

Anyway, in the shot I have in mind we start from afar with a total view of the mothership and earth, so it should be clear what's up and down. Then I might go nuts with sense of orientation once we come close to the greeblies. :)

And yes, I'll definitely have tons of little yellow lights, that's really missing right now. But I'm stalling there, because I'll have to unwrap the tiles if I want them to be positioned reasonably correct (I hate unwrapping).... But hey, I guess it's better to unwrap 8 tiles than to unwrap the whole ship! ;)

- Jonas
D-3
05-21-2008, 06:49 PM
jussing - hi! i think you really need more variations of greeblies! good job man!
henrikbc
06-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Update bump! :)
jussing
06-02-2008, 07:58 AM
I've been busy! I really hope I'll be able to make deadline...
Rickmeister
06-02-2008, 12:16 PM
I really hope I'll be able to make deadline...

So do I...
jussing
06-02-2008, 12:49 PM
So do I...Where's your thread?
Rickmeister
06-03-2008, 10:09 AM
Where's your thread?

No, I meant that I also hope you make the deadline. It looks promising.

I seriously wanted to participate though. I just don't have time for it :(
I had it all figured out in my head, but it wasn't meant to happen I guess ;)
jussing
06-03-2008, 10:16 AM
Ah, OK. Thanks. :)

Say, where did you find that HD New York footage?
Rickmeister
06-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Over at artbeats.

I got it from a friend. Not sure if he legally bought it though... knowing the guy he probably didn't ;)
jussing
06-16-2008, 12:59 PM
I'm out.

Busy at work, no sparetime. There's just no way I can finish anything.

:(
RobertoOrtiz
06-16-2008, 01:38 PM
I'm out.

Busy at work, no sparetime. There's just no way I can finish anything.

:(

No prob..
But if you decide to funish it later just give me a heads up...
:)

-R
Keithtron
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Ah, OK. Thanks. :)

Say, where did you find that HD New York footage?


I'm part of the SSA team, and my DP and I shot some HD plates of NYC for our entry for this. We're gonna be seriously crunching to get this done in time too, but I suppose that's how this stuff always is.

I have a few extra shots of NYC that we're not using. Did you need it for this competition, or were you just curious in general?
Keithtron
06-16-2008, 09:24 PM
Oops, sorry, I didn't notice that you withdrew until after I posted this. But I'm sure the DP wouldn't mind if I made the extra plates available if anyone still needs them.
Rickmeister
06-17-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm out.

Busy at work, no sparetime. There's just no way I can finish anything.

:(

Sad news! But understandable...
RobertoOrtiz
06-18-2008, 04:21 PM
My freind you will be missed...

Anyway here is a heads up (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=644080)

Fxwars Invasion: Two Weeks To Go
RobertoOrtiz
06-26-2008, 07:31 PM
Heads up!

Fxwars Invasion: ONE WEEK To Go (July 3rd!) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=647143)
RobertoOrtiz
06-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Heads up

FXWARS INVASION (Post you Final Entry ):July 7th Date (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=648200)

-R
Rickmeister
07-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Any chance that you'll finish this after all? With the moved deadline and all...
jussing
07-01-2008, 06:45 PM
Woops, didn't even see there was a new deadline! But no, I'm up to my ears. Dang it. I love the subject, though. This is propably third time I've signed up for FXwars, but had to drop out. I guess one day I'll learn.

- Jonas
henrikbc
07-04-2008, 12:11 AM
Or maybe we should make a danish group so there's some daily ballbusting going on to keep it on track. :)
ScottageCheese
07-04-2008, 12:50 AM
yeah jussing, I'm with you on that...

Been busy, MAYBE i'll get some time on Sunday.

But dude, so far, your's looked the most rad! Love all that surface detail you had going.
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