One Failed Uplift, Tomasz Jedruszek (2D)

[Plantman]

The halo around the alien works well I think. Adam and Eve spoil it for me though. Great use of a quote for inspiration. And the alien looks enigmatic, neither threatening nor benign; really great :)

[Andilisa]

wow! This is amazing!
4* from me!

[PMD]

Remarkable work - the image looks incredible, but what really makes it stand out is the sense of narrative you've captured - it is just bursting with potential stories. Brilliant, Tomasz!

[GianniMelito]

incredible....
5* for me

[zng-Y]

Imo Adam and Eve work really well. Great job!

[sirielle]

Great concept, you always have interesting ideas. I especially like the deity here, though I would give Them more neutral face (it reminds me scary movie mask a bit). But don't care for it, it's your idea and it works well. What bothers me a bit - as someone noticed here - the people on the foreground. They stand out from the image too much. Less sharp borders, maybe less bright colors would give them more harmony with the background. Anyway this is great image, can't wait to see the other one for this theme :)

[Centerpoint]

Looks great. :)

I guess the only thing I would contend is that whether you ascribe to creation or evolution, Adam & Eve wouldn't be white either way, heh.

[pawelturalski]

stary! for me one of the best enviros concept ive ever seen!

[Morano]

thank you

here is actually reference for archangel-alien

http://ptaki.polska.pl/gal/85/15/93/med.jpg

LOL I know but i like it and I m going to do some closer look of that concept

[pawelturalski]

better show references for a bottom part ;)

[Ghotire]

The level of detail on this is beyond amazing to me... as is the amount of well balanced color. I'm very impressed. 5 stars!

[Morano]

better show references for a bottom part ;)


you mean the river?

[pawelturalski]

never mind - great concept and thats what is the most important thing. very similar to http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/uplift_universe/images/insp_05.jpg though

[G-FLUX]

Wow, great work, It doesn't look like a failed attempt, why don't you just go ahead and enter it, the deadline isn't until June I believe.

I love the concept and I think you rendered it masterfully, Ezekiel Chapter 10 gives a very similar accout of Gods supposed Throne too.

5*s :cool:

[Morano]

never mind - great concept and thats what is the most important thing. very similar to http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/uplift_universe/images/insp_05.jpg though


Yeah ,that's the one. I must say I'm quite impressed with Stephan style lately, but he is not the only one great artist here on CGS who has their influence on my work. I was just curious how is to create space like this ,work with atmospheric and perspective that way,because I actually necer did such huge scale envirorment before- yeah "Kambir" maybe or last EON challenge entry maybe too but this was something else ,and must say Martiniere style let me understand new sense of A4 space if you know what i mean . It was quite precious experience and needed lot of work too ,because I don't use photos that much :/



G-FLUX: Failed because I finally decided not to send it to the chellenge(I used another concept :check "governor" link in my signature) yes ,but also in the context of the biblical desciption - If we as humanity been uplifted in our past I think our pathrons has failed their mission - just look at the world we live today you will understand what i mean - in that sense this image shows "Failed Uplift attempt on some backwards civilizations "

[OmeN2501]

Love it! Man, I'm always impressed by how easy you handle colour and how efficient you are in crating shapes and volumes. Nothing is "to much" nothing is forced or overdone. Just watching your stuff teaches me a lot ;]
As for concept itself its a shame you let it go, Is so monumental and with nice back story. Your actual entry doesn't have those things :/

[Morano]

Your actual entry doesn't have those things :/

Heeeeeeey!whait a minute ! ;)


Yeah I know , but I wouldn't win anyway. If I didn't won with previous entries then this one wouldn't go any better , so I just not care about that much anymore. I guess my style is not trendy (not enough Disney) for these days , I always like to paint while now it is more about 3D , photo editing ,matte-painting etc I was always impressed with Frazetta ,Gimenez or Brom art ,where if they paint moon over an alien head it was painted from scratch and it had his sweet painted style ,now it is about pasteing moon photo in that place amd blend it a little to look cool so no one notice digital noise ,which still requires lot of artistic skills I'm sure but it is just not me anymore.
As I said , I made two illustrations for that challenge and had to choose one , if i Choosed wrong then You entry has even more chances to win :)

Good luck !

[Sayris]

This one is very great, I love your style :)

[naetronic]

Yo Morano Love this Illustration...and I loved that last comment you wrote haha.
The governor is sweet btw.
Peace

[Zocsi]

You rulz man! :buttrock: Five stars! (:
It's an almost perfect work of art! (As we all know, perfect things don't exist.) The concept and the story behind is cool! Actually your style is quite unique, one of my favourite here at CGS. It seems to me your efforts are returning, your technical preparadness improving in time.
As for the Governor, I've looked on all the entries of Uplift Challenge and your post is a quite remarkable there! Even if you think it's not trendy... Who comes to adjudge that - a painting isn't trendy nowadays? I think 2D art still carries more values than some 3D stuffs at all. But just my opinion... (: Both of your illustrations has it's own messages and this minor fact makes them worth looking at...
Keep it up and good luck for the challange! :thumbsup:

[RobertoOrtiz]

wow!
plugged!
-R

[Geta-Ve]

The big character and the floating castle-ish type thing reminds me of the end boss in Devil May Cry 4.

Good none the less though.

[FabioMSilva]

thats some really complex stuff u got going on there. really nice change in the pallete colors from to/bottom.:wavey:

[wowbaggin]

whoah, absolutely amazing work. thanks for sharing

[Zocsi]

aaand, front page stuff!
Congratz! :beer:

[TheCheshireCat]

Extremly artistic, you definitely have the right imagination and style in order to be a great artist. (Maybe you are one already for all I know, just expressing my thoughts)

I like the concept and the style, the scenery is well drawn and I love the constrast between it and the alien character and structure.

[ivanisavich]

Wonderful! I LOVE the look of that spaceship!

[Agostinuke]

Lovely great image.

[dtang]

great painting! some elements, color and mood in there reminds me of (how I imagined) the final battle when I read The Amber Spyglass of His Dark Materials serie, which is awesome.

[CyborgChicken]

If we as humanity been uplifted in our past I think our pathrons has failed their mission - just look at the world we live today you will understand what i mean - in that sense this image shows "Failed Uplift attempt on some backwards civilizations "

If we are a product of some aliens who evolved in some distant universe, nature through Darwinian evolution or some transcendental intelligence that exist as an innate part of existence.. Nothing can create something that isn't an externalized piece of its self. We represent that creator, their wars are our wars and our sluggers are their struggles. Perhaps we are here to help our creator conquer its self.


33.
HE who knows men is clever;
He who knows himself has insight.
He who conquers men has force;
He who conquers himself is truly strong.

Lao Tzu

[dave247]

WOW. That is so spiritually surreal and just, mind-melting... I dont know. I love it, because I think about stuff like that... Beings breaking trough our reality to stand before us to unfold more about existance before us... I dont know. Its amazing!!

[Tymotzues]

Beautiful work. Nothing more to say. Continually engaging.
five stars.

[radoxist]

I like it so much, very artistic ! :wip:

[slime]

Great concept and execution.
Five Stars!

[pimeto]

the triangle, up theare in the machine, is a good accent!
:) the illuminati simbol i see...
very good jobe you have done! bravo!

[sirielle]

here is actually reference for archangel-alien
http://ptaki.polska.pl/gal/85/15/93/med.jpg
LOL I know but i like it and I m going to do some closer look of that concept

Now it shows up in a totally different light :)

I don't get overenthusiastic by photomanips called paintings. I always thought matte paintings were to add SF/fictional elements to existing landscapes and as long as they serf their purpose and are described properly I see no problem. I want to try settle a castle on some real cliff one day, too. It only irritates me when someone forgets to mention that they painted over photos and puts painted from scratch in description.

Coming back to your art - I really like your style, you not only paint well but are also able to catch interesting mood in images, some mysteries a viewer wants to solve, wants to know why and asks questions. Precious thing.

The other entry is very good, too.

And congratulations on Expose 6! I got to the second phase but didn't make it to the book finally.

[Baltasound]

Incredible, I love huge paintings :cool:

[nwiz25]

i adore this painting ... divine to its fullest! ... love all the colors, style, mood ... even the alien design .. 5 stars all the way!

[far]

amazing work :)

[Morano]

the triangle, up theare in the machine, is a good accent!
:) the illuminati simbol i see...
very good jobe you have done! bravo!


damn ,i was hopeing nobody will notice and WE will take control over your brains and bodies easly ...now we going have to kill you all

[jason manley]

Nice piece. I would suggest spending a little more time on the human figures as they are...well looking like an after thought...the rest looks nice though.


jason

[Koogle]

a surpreme being? with a walking stick? or is that just to pick up the trash with ?:surprised couldn't possibly be for pointing at stuff with... ain't he got long enough arms and fingers to point with? :)

and whats with that iconic stylized circle behind him? could chuck that bit out IMO..

aside from those comments its a great concept illustration

[r3mix]

This is really excellent. Love the colors and the composition. Nice work :) Only one small detail that I noticed....Eve's hair roots on her head look pretty dark for her to be a natural blonde :)

[Morano]

Only one small detail that I noticed....Eve's hair roots on her head look pretty dark for her to be a natural blonde :)

Who said she's Eve and who said she's natural blonde?

[r3mix]

Who said she's Eve and who said she's natural blonde?

My mistake then. I figured thats what they were representing since other people were calling them Adam and Eve... :)

* edit: Change of heart...

[Morano]

My mistake then. I figured thats what they were representing since other people were calling them Adam and Eve... :)

* edit: Change of heart...

You didn't make mistake ,You can have whatever interpretation you wish , just like the others who though they are Adam and Eve , and just like myself who never though about those as first man and woman - If You just red my posts little more carefully then You might notice my interpretation(one of thousands other possibilities) of that pair standing in foreground whould be rather ..."me and my love" -any similarities ofcourse ,to the real living persons are just theorical since it is very surrealistic painting. So Why not , even desciption references to Bible ,they aren't just common, modern pair , who been forced to choose "better good"-whatever is that means today - while their only wish would be to live toegether in harmony with nature?

You mistake is however you are trying to find an error somewhere in that image by matching your interpretation to something i never painted . If I would paint a portratit titled "NAtural Blonde woman" -then your argument would be in right place as you noticed her hair colour doesn't look like natural. But this never happend so your argment doesn't make sense.

Don't try to be smarter than you are ,think before You post anything , people on this forum are very intelligent community and they deserve at least little respect.

[r3mix]

Don't try to be smarter than you are ,think before You post anything , people on this forum are very intelligent community and they deserve at least little respect.

There must be some miscommunication here. I wasn't being disrespectful to anyone and I'm sorry you interperted it that way. If you don't want critiques then specify in your thread that you don't want any feedback. I was merely giving an opinion and as I said before, I think this is a fantastic painting and good luck to you. 5 stars. Cheers.

Oh, and congrats on the front page plug. :)

[D4NN0]

Don't try to be smarter than you are ,think before You post anything , people on this forum are very intelligent community and they deserve at least little respect.

Wow dude exhale. You posted your work on a public forum there will be critiques and comments. If you are still that close to the piece maybe you should have waited awhile before posting it.

[phoenix]

hey pretty nice image man .. liove it...


Regards

[Morano]

If you don't want critiques then specify in your thread that you don't want any feedback. . 5 stars. Cheers.



I do , and I really apreciate any response for my work, no matter if possitive or negative - both ways means the art is controversial or interesting which is main reason to doing it.

Please understand that I can take full responsiblity for colors ,wrong perspective or proportions of the body , or other things I did painted . Just don't blame for something is just your interpretation and I never did painted in my illustration.

Disrespectfull is not you are posting critiques . Remeber most of people are reading posts under the work ,posting "just anything" which doesn't have much sense is wasteing of their time to read this - in that meaning I think is unnecesairly discussion. Look how much space we jsut have wasted to argueing about something just never happend - like natural blonde Eve on my painting :D

cheers

[dascerra]

Absolutely a fantastic image. Great impact. Congratulations. 5 stars!!!

[kazziu]

fantastic image, innymi słowy wyjebane w kosmos, jeszcze troche i martiniere sie bedzie pocił z zazdrości

[TheANIMAL]

The floating man looks angry, probably because he's got a big light stuck up his bottom.



"And God said let there be light!", and it shone out his arse.

[gpepper]

One of the best 2D pictures I have seen ! Great idea, great job Tomasz !

[AVTPro]

With this piece I say you have tapped into the true meaning of art. To imagine, to think, believe, question, assertain.

Highly dramatic, masterfully executed.


I love the test you wrote as well. To me, one theory of life complements the other. Love the use of energy and light as well as perspective.

BRAVO.

Very inspiring pure Art.

Thanks. AVT

[iadagraca]

nice theory...but heres something else to think about if you want it.


first think about the concept that all people are good at heart
or that people who are claimed to be evil but have good intentions at heart, but we see their methods as evil. or people who do "Evil" things cause of traumatic past experiences...or by the influence of some one else...i don't think I've ever heard a story of spontaneous evil...

so when you think about that, what makes the devil so evil then? what gave him the idea to rebel against god in the first place. from what i was taught he was formally an angel, so being a perfect creature i find it hard to believe that his rebellion was spontaneous...what sparked his actions in the time of Adam and eve?...is it possible that someone else inspired him?...maybe he believes he cares for us more than god?...and if he truly believes that...or the other questions are true....does he really deserve the name "Satin the Devil"?...

but don't get me wrong I'm not challenging anything...but those are some recent thoughts I've had....

[Zaryuta]

nice :applause:
but angel and people look apart from the picture
angel is too artificial and flat, halo especially (maype used transform with perspective?)
people have wrong lightning (eve's ass looks awful) // lighted from front, but shadow drops left :curious:
this is spoil all a little
sorry for my bad english :p

[chlywly]

Simply breath taking, but one little thing; are they nudists at the bottom or some sort of future, deteriorated civilization, if the latter then why does the blond girl have roots showing? does she color her hair? why is she naked...

[Morano]

are they nudists

...no ,why?


if the latter then why does the blond girl have roots showing? does she color her hair?

what makes you think only modern people colored their hair? Haven't you seen people in africa with red-dirt hair? You think they were born like that?

does she color her hair?

...maybe

why is she naked...

because I LIKE her naked :shrug:

[Navstar]

Gorgeous art. Reminds me a little of Devil May Cry 4 (which is a good thing).

[Morano]

or that people who are claimed to be evil but have good intentions at heart, but we see their methods as evil. or people who do "Evil" things cause of traumatic past experiences...or by the influence of some one else...i don't think I've ever heard a story of spontaneous evil...



hey we started quite interesting ethic conversation here and I was already about to lose my faith in this forum, thanks guys :)

And I totally agree with you , I can even remeber a quote but not sure who said that

" we can fight the evil but what we suppose to do with wrong comprehended good"

I guess it was Great master of the Teutonic order or someone like this. They were fighting with pagans -and they were evil to Holly Church -but their only "evil" was they just believed different gods...

Looking at our life today we can see the most "evil" done to us is just our wrong intepretation of someone's "good" . For example people living in US doesn't accept disrespect for their flag and faith , while they sending troops to different corner of the world to kill anybody just thinking in other way than they do and they doesn't seems to care they are actually disrespect faith of those people not to mention flag ...as a matter of fact there are much worst things in war then just disrespected faith or flag - they are people dieing , women ,kids and it happens evry day ,every minute as we speak..but hey, those are just politics, right?. They aren't the only ones who does it -I have same problems in my country. Polish citizens expect to be threaten good in UK not just as cheap workers ,but once they comes back to Poland they throw bananas to black fooball players durring the game.
There is more stupidy like this all over the world and all could be solved in a blink of the eye if we just could see the same human as we are in our enemies.

But going back to the concept art - Yes my "angel" doesn't have to be evil as he looks . Why "Predator" was bad guy? Because he was hunting humans?Is That makes ,us humans, the worst killing monster for little rabbits or deers :) I just explained that one possible interpretation of the Angel as bad guy but still I hope there will be lot of people who find him actually ...cute?

As You read this You will notice I mentioned pagans ,Us people , polish people ,racists etc etc ... maybe the all evil we see is just because we belong to one organisation or the other , of coure there is nothing wrong to belong ,be part of soemthing -but what makes us think our organisation or structure is better than the other? Where that creazy race starts ...and where it ends? Why football competintion can be solved by playing the cup and haveing the winner ,and why arguing about Oil has to end with war? When we start to fight each other to be leader of the herd ,just like animals. Or we still have a chance to live in perfect harmony with one common goal -be happy,as a humans?

I guess if that would be so simple we would already have it. But It doesnt means we should give up trying.

[TombFOX]

Sorry for barging in, but I simply couldn’t resist and I do feel the need to get a piece of the action ;]

So are you asking a bunch of unrelated questions, or is there some logic to this flow of thought? A deep enrooted doubt in goodness of men? & questions about decay of morality? It’s actually hard to deduce anything for certain from what you’ve wrote, but I’ll try to tackle the questions. + I will not address the questions directly; instead I will propose paradigms in which you should consider to transform those doubts, since there’s nothing worst then a badly formulated question.

1) Socialization

First of all you should consider looking beyond the human society and realize that we are actually slaves to our own cognitive stereotypes, which is essentially caused by us being what we are in the first place – mere men. Therefore such terms as good or evil are derived from social norms & they act as a moral superstructure which sole purpose is to maintain the efficiency of a society. Take for instance a more idiosyncratic perspective: if everyone would do as they please both in terms of thoughts and deeds without the moral imprinting in early youth, sooner or later we would simply grow apart, and cease to exist as a society. Ironically the same rules that were self-established to allow us to function properly, and to maintain our social collectivity are tearing us apart at the level of a single individual.

2) Psychology

“Polish citizens expect to be threaten good in UK not just as cheap workers, but once they comes back to Poland they throw bananas to black football players during the game”

First of all it’s a question of statistics, since within any given number of behaviors there will be deviations, thus an isolated incident does not sanction any conclusions upon the general population. However I do not think your point was to generalize.
Those are actually two distinct reactions to very different stimuli. There’s no such thing as moral equilibrium which hypocrisy would give birth to, no “justice” if you will. Most of the damage done by stereotypes is automatic in nature, and there is little you can do about that. It is simply the way we function, taking shortcuts at every turn. Even if those actions are deliberate, it is almost certain that they are rooted deeply in your psyche by your environment and genetic heritage. So it’s pointless to discern whether those behaviors are “good” or “evil”, we should just accept the fact that they ARE and work our way around them, prepare countermeasures, doing anything in our might to ensure education and proper nurture to minimize the effect of stereotypes. Taking your words:

“There is more stupidy like this all over the world and all could be solved in a blink of the eye if we just could see the same human as we are in our enemies”

That would be the day ;]

3) Evolution

“When we start to fight each other to be leader of the herd ,just like animals”

Aren’t we? The fact that we were enriched by the neo-cortex doesn’t change the fact that we still inherited older structures of the brain which pose a serious threat to our most sacred derangement, which is calling ourselves special. So for the time being we are at the mercy of our natural instinct, which we of course can tame, but we are far from mastering ourselves as individuals, yet alone as a society.

Have you ever read anything by Dukaj or Zajdel?

PS I really dig what you did with the piece :] my only comments would be that Adam & Eve seem way to pale ;] other then that my jaw is on the floor & I will have a hard time finding it anytime soon :]


Pozdrowienia znad morza ;]

[Morano]

However I do not think your point was to generalize.


not at all ,I forgot to add "some" if not even "a few" would be better word


“There is more stupidy like this all over the world and all could be solved in a blink of the eye if we just could see the same human as we are in our enemies”

That would be the day ;]



Is it really sounds like an Utopia?



Have you ever read anything by Dukaj or Zajdel?



Dukaj is for sure somwhere on my long list of books I wish to read , but this list is growing and I have even less time to read. Zajdel I'm not sure but I will check his briography right away

[iadagraca]

hey we started quite interesting ethic conversation here and I was already about to lose my faith in this forum, thanks guys :)


no problem glad i could help XD

Therefore such terms as good or evil are derived from social norms & they act as a moral superstructure which sole purpose is to maintain the efficiency of a society.

Or from the bible, but anything else yeah.


Most of the damage done by stereotypes is automatic in nature, and there is little you can do about that. It is simply the way we function, taking shortcuts at every turn. Even if those actions are deliberate, it is almost certain that they are rooted deeply in your psyche by your environment and genetic heritage.

which brings me back the "spontaneous" thing, wheres does that come from anyway? maybe if we figured out how this sort of thing was developed we could fight it easier... i know most of what we do have come from lack of knowlage in the past(racisim for one, saying now that skin color or facial structure is not "race").

But even after saying that:
i still find it hard to resist being the "common teen", even thought i know scientificly what causes it(lack of brain development right? plus the stereostype). so i'm aware of how i'm acting most of the time. but if i think my actions are ligitimate(after careful thought), my parents still belive its careless behavior if i'm wrong. meaning even if i don't try to be the stereo type at all i'm still expected to be one.

So it’s pointless to discern whether those behaviors are “good” or “evil”, we should just accept the fact that they ARE and work our way around them, prepare countermeasures, doing anything in our might to ensure education and proper nurture to minimize the effect of stereotypes.

Now that sounds better, but like i tried to put out before tring to "ensure education and proper nurture" can only go to far. say a serial murderer for instance, the first thing you did was to get him to belive his actions were "unreasonable" rather than "wrong", and even try to get him to understand why he's like that scientificly. but does that mean he'll stop? will he still be the stereotype of a uncontrolable murderer, or will he be the one that realises the issue and have the power to fight it.


“There is more stupidy like this all over the world and all could be solved in a blink of the eye if we just could see the same human as we are in our enemies”

That would be the day ;]

totaly, maybe if that happend my moms religion would have less ammo to dish out.


So for the time being we are at the mercy of our natural instinct, which we of course can tame, but we are far from mastering ourselves as individuals, yet alone as a society.

which is cristianity's ammo, telling someone they'er imperfect sounds revolutionary to some people...


lastly it seems like what you were saying the whole time is that we just need to stop being who we used to be...


I just explained that one possible interpretation of the Angel as bad guy but still I hope there will be lot of people who find him actually ...cute?

HA!:beer:



Looking at our life today we can see the most "evil" done to us is just our wrong intepretation of someone's "good"

thats what i'm sayin dude...


Or we still have a chance to live in perfect harmony with one common goal -be happy,as a humans?

yeah its weird that some countries seem like they don't want that, i recently saw a documentry on 9/11, at then end when they talked about binladen, one of his quotes were "americans love life, and we love death. that is the diffrence between us" or something like that.

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on an unrelated note, why do people keep asking why they're nude? were are they going find clothe in a vast green field anyway? if thay had clothe i'd have to ask why...


my only comments would be that Adam & Eve seem way to pale

really? well they haven't been in the sun that long i guess :cool:.

[cermit]

Cos niesamowitego. Jedna z najlepszych prac jakie widzialem ostatnio na CG. Proporcje, POV, kolory, swiatlo.. Jak dla mnie mistrzostwo.
Amazing render. One of the best Ive seen recently at CG. 5stars

[BobJohnZz]

Great colors I dont like figures at bottom

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