3D new Harware

[camelot]

You must be kidding, but ok, let's simplify it.
Your 2.000 AUD are about 1.200 € which is not much for a 3d-workstation.
Simply get the best computer you can get for the price, stick to known brands like Intel and NVidia and yes the more monitor space the better. I would prefer 2 monitors with smaller resolution over one large monitor.
For your money you may find some special offers with a Intel QuadCore Q6600, a GeForce8600GT, at least 500GB HD and a max. of 3 GB. A good PSU with 500W is almost mandatory for these parts.

Good luck!

[Gimmyno]

hey man i told u i don't have experience how am i suppose to know?lol
anyway thank you for your help!!

[camelot]

Well, the problem is you won't really find "some very good and powerfull hardware" for that money. 3D usually always demands the best cumputer technology for a fast and effective workflow. Profis are working with workstations that cost more than three times the money you want to spend. They pay that money for a good screen.
Another thing, someone who has no experience with 3D doesn't need this powerfull hardware for the start.
And there are so many threads about that.

But it's ok, I hope I helped you! :)

[Gimmyno]

yeah i think you are right...just for start i will get a 2.000 computer...heheehhe and then i will think to get something more powerfull, thankk youuu mateee!ps. Gute Nachmittag LOLL

[lots]

You must be kidding, but ok, let's simplify it.
Your 2.000 AUD are about 1.200 € which is not much for a 3d-workstation.
Are you kidding? You can get a pretty nice machine for $1800 USD (Aprox 2000AUD)....

A quad core CPU, 4GB of RAM, a Geforce 8800GT/GTS 512, with all the usual essentials leaves you about $600 USD for that 24" monitor... which should be plenty...

[Spacelord]

Hey Gimmyno,
YOu can get a great system for under $2000 easy with 8Gb of Ram good graphics card,
(8800 nvidia), Q9300 Quad core and decent case and the all the other goodies you need.
Check this one out from Enspire digital, there really good guys and good prices.



http://www.enspiredigital.com.au/comp.configure.php?cname=Vitesse%20GX&tname=Vitesse%20GX

[camelot]

Are you kidding? You can get a pretty nice machine for $1800 USD (Aprox 2000AUD)....

A quad core CPU, 4GB of RAM, a Geforce 8800GT/GTS 512, with all the usual essentials leaves you about $600 USD for that 24" monitor... which should be plenty...

Well you are totally right, I'm working with a similar system and works fine for most 3D-stuff.:)
Your recommendation are simlar to those I made.
But I thought he wanted some really powerfull "workstation". The system you stated is a normal higher grade concumer system. Sometimes you can get something like that in the supermarket or discounter here in Germany. And I could build that by myself for let's say about 700-800€.

[chromecity]

Hey Gimmyno,
YOu can get a great system for under $2000 easy with 8Gb of Ram good graphics card,
(8800 nvidia), Q9300 Quad core and decent case and the all the other goodies you need.
Check this one out from Enspire digital, there really good guys and good prices.



http://www.enspiredigital.com.au/comp.configure.php?cname=Vitesse%20GX&tname=Vitesse%20GXWell if he's going to spend money on 8GB of RAM as you suggested, you should at least tell him he'll need to have a 64-bit O/S to even address the upper half of that. And of course, 64-bit O/S's (Vista64 & XP64) have their own set of idiosyncrasies at this point (some plug-ins don't work, some drivers don't work, etc.) so that's a very questionable path to send someone down who is new to 3D and doesn't have experience with the associated hardware.

I'd suggest sticking with a 32-bit O/S for now and that means no more than 4GB of RAM. And Gimmyno, if you're thinking that you might want 8GB in case you decide to switch to a 64-bit O/S in the future, I really wouldn't advise thinking that way. By the time you arrive at that decision, you'll want a whole 'nother computer anyway.

[Gimmyno]

thanks guys!!thanks for ur help!!

[lots]

Well you are totally right, I'm working with a similar system and works fine for most 3D-stuff.:)
Your recommendation are simlar to those I made.
But I thought he wanted some really powerfull "workstation". The system you stated is a normal higher grade concumer system. Sometimes you can get something like that in the supermarket or discounter here in Germany. And I could build that by myself for let's say about 700-800€.
Well honestly, the only place to go from the mentioned config, is up to a two socket system, and you instantly take a hit to your price/performance ratio doing that. Personally, depending on what the OP does for a living (is 3D a hobby or a source of income?) and what he needs power in (rendering or in modeling?) a 2 socket workstation may not be the right choice, especially given its higher base price.

[Spacelord]

I guess I should have mention he will need a 64bit OS, I was assuming to much :)
I haven't had any problems with 64bit Vista or 64bit XP.
I don't use many plugins, but theres no reason why you can't install the 32bit 3D software as well on a 64bit system. I have it set that way, I'd prefer 64bit system any day.
RAM is so cheap these days it silly not to have it there.

cheers


Well if he's going to spend money on 8GB of RAM as you suggested, you should at least tell him he'll need to have a 64-bit O/S to even address the upper half of that. And of course, 64-bit O/S's (Vista64 & XP64) have their own set of idiosyncrasies at this point (some plug-ins don't work, some drivers don't work, etc.) so that's a very questionable path to send someone down who is new to 3D and doesn't have experience with the associated hardware.

I'd suggest sticking with a 32-bit O/S for now and that means no more than 4GB of RAM. And Gimmyno, if you're thinking that you might want 8GB in case you decide to switch to a 64-bit O/S in the future, I really wouldn't advise thinking that way. By the time you arrive at that decision, you'll want a whole 'nother computer anyway.

[Gimmyno]

hey guys so if i get a 64 bit (XP)of course will i have any problems with plugins?so i'm using a lot fumefx and i don't want to switch to a new machine and then they will not working!!!someone tested?

[lots]

If you have 32bit plugins, you will need to use the 32bit version of your 3D app. However it does not stop you from having both 64bit and 32bit versions of the 3D app installed. In fact I currently have 32 and 64bit versions of lightwave installed.

If you can get 64bit versions of your plugins, then you can use them in your 64bit 3D app.

This is true for anything, not just 3D apps :P All the compiled code needs to either run in 32bit or 64bit, you can't mix it.

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