texture/light/render << envir./character >> Gabe

[rolhionjs]

I was wondering if you're gonna participate to this challenge ! :) :)
happy to see you here !

A dead man you say ?... hmm... it's gonna be creepy for sure !! :) :) I hope to see the following images soon ! :)

[Gilgamesh]

Alright! Lets hear it for faking GI! You gotta love that. Anyway, I'm looking forward to what you've got.

[Koma]

.::STRIKE::. - thanks iam also happy to see you here ,i dont have alot of time this month , i have a lot of job ,but i will do my best and good luck

Gilgamesh - your character is really original,eh eh cool ! the finish scene will not be illuminate with fake GI ,probably with some area light and maybe real GI

here the start of the body

[Koma]

update of the man

[SheepFactory]

really creepy ! ,

This scene reminds me a scene from a game called "the 11.th hour" successor to 7.th guest the first pc cdrom game i have owned , (anyone remember those games>?) ,

anyway its looking good , the room is kinda empty though , of course that depends on your camera angle , you'll probably do a close up shot of the bathtub right?

A|i

[leigh]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!! :p
those maggots coming out of his mouth are really gross :eek:

hey, this is a really cool model so far, nice job :D Heheheheh I'm glad to see that someone had the balls to model some...er... tackle :p

Looking forward to an update...

Sheep Factory - I never played the 11th Hour, but I can imagine that there would have been a scene similar to this. The 7th Guest was GREAT!! Except that I finished it in 1 day :(
Btw, I've always wanted to mention, that I've always thought your avatar is really cool! :D It always makes me smile :)

[dmcgrath]

I know he's a wip, just a couple things need changing. The ears need to be bigger, about the size of the nose. When people get older, the cartililage keeps growing, the bones don't grow. Also, he seems a little too thick in the thighs for a man. He should be skinnier all around to match the fantastic job you've done on the face. Looking forward to many updates. Leo Davinci drew the best pictures of a dead man. He actually got a cadaver and slowly picked him apart while drawing him. I show you a pic you have probably seen before:p

[dmcgrath]

Found it!!!
Scanned it!!!
Here it is!!!

[Koma]

Sheep Factory - thanks ,but sorry dont know the game ,my idea come from a scene in resindent evil on playstation ,and for the detail here an update I add some things but the end image will probably more close to the bath ,thanks again

Leigh- thanks ,the avatar of sheep always make me smiling

dmcgrath -wow,fantasctic critique ,you see right i will fix it ,thanks alot and Leonardo its a Genius no more words this guy is my idol

here an update of the global scene ,i will start texturing soon ,iam now working on the pose of the man in the bath

[Koma]

oups I forget the image here it his

[rolhionjs]

beurk ... disgusting.... :) jsut what i like !! lol
Excellent !!!

[OZ]

I...JUST....LOVE....YOU!!!! BIZZAHOOOK!:eek: ...i love this 3rd category hotel feeling!!!worms,waste like character.........creepy.........!Great... i cant wait to see it textured! this scene could be GREAT!!!do u see a movie called "DARK CITY"??if not try to do!....may be very very userfull 4 this project!:cool:

[Koma]

.::STRIKE::.- thanks ,j ai tellement hate de voir la scene tout fini argh ,ca me demange et bonne chance en france


-OZ- so happy taht you love it ,your works are wonderfull ,really your fuc...ing good ,i keep a eye on your thread , i love the little monkey demon . And yes dark city ,its a really good movie ,weird idea ,but cool !!!

update of the body ,i dont have alot of time but i do my best

[Koma]

some other views

[puddlefish]

Wow!! This looks fantastic. I'd love to see the environment covered in dirty stains and scratches like in the Silent Hill games. That would be really creepy. The figure looks great too.:)

[puddlefish]

Damn, forgot to give you a rating! 5 stars from me!!

PS: don't forget to add a skirting board where the floor meets the wall.

[OZ]

One thing...........:thumbsup: yez!

[Koma]

puddlefish - thanks ,and sorry i never play silent hill game,but yes it will be creepy and i add the skirting board


-oz- thanks

here a start of the texure ,need some more dirty on the bath and more work on the floor ,need a bump map on the floor and the wall,i will add a cage with a neon just under mirror and effectivly a dead man on the bath

[Koma]

my old man ,that will play the role of a dead man on my scene ,here the model ,no texture yet

[Sangotten]

Yeah...very disturbing but really cool....(do I make sense??)

I this the bathroom is looking good and will make the character look even sicker!!

[Gilgamesh]

Great textures on the bathroom. Are you going to bloody it up?

[Koma]

Gilgamesh - i am not sure about the blood i have to found the way that the man die ,suicide or just because he is old or he fall :deal: :twisted:

[Joel Hooks]

If I could vote i would say a combination of pills and a nice straight razor in a bathtub full of water, with maybe a drippy coagulated pool under the arm hanging over the side. :)


:airguitar (I worry about this avatar.. air guitar it says. lol)

[pcbehmer]

wow, man!!!
iccc, very creep... (i liked, hehehe), the bathroon sounds like resident evil environment (and RE rules, hehe)...

man, your work is awesome.. congratulations....
about the death, what about a pipe in his eye, hehehe, whose empale him in the wall... and water fall like a cascate.... from other pipe in the wall, whose was broken by the pipe's eye.... maybe be cool.....
and congrats again.. nice work...

[Russo]

really nice... I wanna see the final texturized version... :thumbsup:

[lucascerro]

Hi. Fantastic work.:bounce:
I think you should first thrash the place a little. Maybe try out a tiled floor and/or tiled walls. And then break the place up a little. Like breaking a few tiles, leaving some of them broken on the floor, a broken chunk of wood on the floor, etc. Maybe leave a few personal belongings on the floor. A magazine, or a pill bottle, or a towel, clothes, maybe a knife or a gun... All kinds of shit on the floor, like used paper, shampoo bottle, etc. break the mirror. Put water on the floor. Try no to make the walls ALL dirty. Try, instead, to make it clean, and REALLY dirty only on a few parts. The same goes for the floor. This would be easier if you used tiles on the walls instead of pure concrete. Maybe you should put water leaking. If you were to show the ceiling, maybe put it dripping water from the apartment above (if it's a building). And maybe break the pipes up, and rip the curtain a little.

Second, I think you shoud go for some really moody lighting. Try making the light come not from the ceiling, but from a table lamp of some other light source far away from the bathtub, and put lots of objects so that they cast lots of shadows over the whole room.

About the camera angle, think you should use a wide-angled camera, so you can show the whole room, and probably a low-angled view aiming up towards the guy, like from a corner on the floor. Also, put some objects obstructing part of the camera view, and use a low DOF (depth of field) so that these objects appear blurred.

Not that I can do what I suggested, I surely can't do what you did, but these are just recommendations. I know I'm saying too much. I just think you should judge if anything I said can improve your scene.

5 starz from me!:thumbsup:

Lucas

[DocBoom]

very cool so far! hey does anyone remember the game bad mojo? where the main character gets transformed into a cochroach? it was full of these creepy and dirty places. to bad it doesn´t run on win2k :rolleyes:

[Sgt.Pepper]

Love the scene, about the way he died. What might make it more dramatic and realistic is that: say he had a heart-attack or something while getting into or out of the bath and in the panic of the pain he grabbed something, like the drapes or the pipe holding the drapes or something and dragged it down with him in the fall.
I think this would create more life (kind of an ironic word to use :) ) in the picture...

Also You could add some details telling us that this is an old sick man, like alot of medication-jars etc...

Just a thought...

[Koma]

lowdown - thanks ,its effectively a good way(talking about the death)
(the new smiles are really funny,but some with weirds name)

pcbehmer- thanks for your comments ,you have good idea , your design of the eye is great ,but for the death its not realistic ,or just improbable

Russo - i am hurry to see it to ,and yours to , i love flowers he he ,thanks

lucascerro - wow !!! thanks man ,your comment are really appreciate ,alot of good thing ,thanks alot

DocBoom - thanks ,and sorry i dont know the game,not alot of game are supported by win2k ,try to update to xp ,really better ,or subdivide your hard disk and install the exploitation system that supported the game

Sgt.Pepper - thanks ,one of my favorites idea for death

okay here an little update with no ray tracing reflection(to long for a test)and the man dead is coming soon dont worry:drumrock:

[Elfe__noire]

:drumrock:
:xtreme:


Cool ta nouvelle imge j'ai hte de voir le mort dans cette scene... salut et a la prochaine

[SeanW]

This is comming along really well! I'm already getting pictures in my mind. Just a few things I wanna throw at ya and see what you think. I might have missed it but are you going to have a story element which shows how the guy died, maybe a gun in his hand or maybe he cut his wrists. Did he commit suicide or did he just die of old age. I think the first two offer some interesting chances to do really interesting textures. I love the neon light above the mirror, its a really great touch. Do you plan on damageing it a little, maybe only half of it works and the other burnt out. I also think your mirror offers a great opportunity to add to your scene, maybe theres a silhouete of a figure viewing the scene but it too blurred out to see. Anyway these things just came to me when I saw it, great job, cant wait to see it finished.

[Gilgamesh]

It would be interesting if he was entirely under water. Then we wouldn't know how he died, and that mystery would be part of the narrative. SeanW had some pretty good ideas. The scene and mood is looking great!

[Koma]

Elfe__noire - merci ,eeehhh......les nouveaux smilies sont tellement cool he he.....a plus

SeanW - thanks man ,the man probably kill im self with a gun and i will explode is brain ,no the neon will not be damaged ,its impossible that one neon burn at half and for the mirror yeah ,its a really great idea !!!thanks man:beer:

Gilgamesh - he would not be on the bath ,because if he is i would have to change the camera angle and i love this one .

Here an update the guy is on the floor i will make a gun on his hand and explode is brain ,need a texture for the man face ,on the bath and on the mirror let's continue working
http://www.peyo.com/vision/img/bain3.jpg

[Koma]

okay i just finish modelling the revolver here he is

[SeanW]

Cool so your going with the revolver. Where are you going to put the bits of brain and blood splatter? The way hes laying down right now the splatter I think would be twards the cammera. Or maybe it is possible. He could have been taking a shower, someone came in and shot him a couple of times, the splatter would then be against the white curtins and the left side wall, he then could have fallen backwards into the position he is in now, and you could communicate that he was in the shower by taking a leg and putting it in the tub. Anyway just some more ideas for you.

[SeanW]

oh and the gun, what about the gun in that situation, its possible the killer threw it down on the floor, or even his chest. It would be awesome to see the shell casings laying on the floor as well.

[Gilgamesh]

Great looking little gun. I'm still waiting for this thread to get gory....:surprised: I guess I'm a sicko...

It would be awesome to see the shell casings laying on the floor as well.
Except....that kind of gun doesn't eject casings.

[henry]

ok this is actually from a student's work i've seen in a Savannah College of Art and Design catalog: but the man IN the bath tub, fill it with water, but of course put the man's left hand (his left hand) right outside the bath, u know they way everyone puts their hands when they're bathing in a bath tub...aaaaa hold on i'll try and do this crappy in photoshop..

WARNING: NO WACOM AVAILABLE! THE FOLLOWING SPECIMEN COULD CAUSE DYSMENTIA AND/OR POSSIBLE SHOCK

images below

here comes the fun part, remember the water i told you to put in?? MAKE IT DARK RED :twisted: :twisted: i hope you got my point, keep up the good work anyhows

[henry]

and this other version:

[henry]

LMAO!! Ok repace those.. red lines with your character and you're almost there!! :D

[lucascerro]

Wow! I really like this new angle and lighting! moody! :eek:
And the light coming from the white lamp was a great idea!
Excelent work!:thumbsup:

OBS: besides putting a silhouette of a man in the mirror, maybe you could put his shadow on the floor. As if the door was open, and there was light coming in and he was standing at the door.

you got my vote!
Lucas

[Toeng.com]

OMG ... I love how the pic turns out so far ... great skill u have :thumbsup:

[Koma]

update with blood coming soon

thanks for your replies

[Elfe__noire]

Salut gab mais je trouve sa long avent que tu mettent l'update avec le sang d'habitude tu travaille plus vite .:twisted:


Non sans joke j'ai juste hate de la voir finaliser c'est tout....


:drool:

[rolhionjs]

Excellent le croquis de la future position :) :) Ca va le faire ! :) Bon courage ! ;)

[Koma]

merci ben strike ,toi aussi ca avance ,un nouvel ordi comme ca ?

henry - thanks ,i finally decide to take your idea and place the guy on the bath

so here the update

[jimpajammer]

looks good, although something is very wrong... the curtain pole
is placed to low... if he would stand up, the curtains would only reach to his chest.

In my bathroom the curtain is placed very high, you know to keep out the water if I stand and shower?!

continue the good work!

:lightbulb

[pcbehmer]

hey man!

Long time since I last visitaded your thread....:rolleyes:

Wow, its going be very cool really!!! nice work, and the character fits like a glove in the scene!!! congrats!!! now I will keep a closed eye in your thread!!!

5 stars from me !!!!:beer:

I wish to see another updates....

(PS. about the pipe thing in my last post, hehehehe, really doesn't fit in the scene... maybe I got too much RE influence... or just awake in the wrong side of the bed ;)

Cheers, Patrick.

[Koma]

pcbehmer - thanks ,and your pipe idea was really thay make me smile ,but iam looking for something more true more realistic and more dramatic .

jimpajammer - You see right about the curtain pole ,I fix it and thanks for your comments

so here a little update I add a window and i wanna know what you think about that

[Gilgamesh]

Oh yeah, Gabe. Sweet. :buttrock:
I think that you should play with lighting a little more. It is really dark. I would like to see more contrast between lights and darks, as well as lighter overall. I like the slivers of light that are coming through the window onto the floor. I think that something like that might be really effective cast onto the tub or the character, althought I don't know how you might incorporate that. Anyway, good job.

[Alec]

Hey there,

I think the subject matter is fine but, to me, this isn't creepy at all....yet.
Here's why I think it's not creepy enough and what I think might help it become more creepy.

First, your camera angle is mundane. It's a little below eye level and just sort of staring at the scene without adding any tension to the shot. Try rolling the camera clockwise around 15-30 degrees to see what that buys you. Maybe tilt it up or down a bit, too.

Second, the position of your dead guy makes him seem as if he's just hanging out in a relaxing warm bath. I've seen plenty of real suicide victim photographs (I won't say where or why) and many seem to leave the body in pretty weird, contorted positions. Not so much because of the shock of the bullet, but mostly because when you get your head blown off the body tends to crumple under it's weight and not lean back in a leisurely fashion.
I think, to make his pose a bit more creepy, he might be better off leaning forward with his forehead just entering the water, as if that's as far as his body will bend. Alternatively, place his body under the water so only the top of his head is poking out. For creepiness points, open his eyes and have them just staring blankly from out of the tub.
I think, regardless of your position, the gun should be on the ground. If you change the direction of your light source, you could have the cast light and shadow fall onto the gun where it sits.
For more creepiness factor, I'd kinda like to see the light from the hallway coming through the open bathroom door pouring into this room with a silhouette of his wife being cast into the room. That'd help to lighten up the picture a bit (color-wise) and add a bit more to the story being told by the image. I think the anonymous loner killing himself for an unknown reason is a little boring and adding the personal detail will add more emotional impact to the scene.
What might be a little more cool, but might border on spoon-feeding the viewer, is to have some black and white photos strewn on the ground -- they can be indecipherable, giving the viewer the opportunity to create their own story surrounding his death.

Now, for the textures. It's a little hard to actually critique the textures because the room is so dark. I like the floorboards and the crud you've put on the walls. I'd like to see blood spattered onto the shower curtain. The patch of blood on the wall seems a little too compact and neat. The boxes look good. To add to the storytelling aspect of your image, maybe you can write something revealing onto the box. Maybe have it simply marked "bathroom" to denote that the character just moved in and hadn't even taken his toiletries out yet. Maybe it can say "Tax Returns 1988-2001". Who knows. Use the textures to help tell your story so it doesn't end up just saying "dead guy kills himself in tub." Make it as personal as suicide is in reality.

I'm probably saying way too much here, but I like your models and the beginnings of your textures and can see that you want your image to tell a story and would like to see it come to it's full potential.

Good luck in the contest!

[Hexodam]

might want to tilt the head a bit down, make him seem dead or something.

still looks great :applause:

[mori_leo]

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL !!!!!!
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[levin]

this mighyt make it creepier...

position the body as you see it, back arched to extreme,
head pointing down , EYES STARING AT YOU! whatever the camera angle is. (show a lot of eye white )

left hand grasps curtain, tearing some of the rings off

shower still on


BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD

whaddaya think?

[OZ]

Hey Gabe!:thumbsup:YEAH!! scary sweeeet!You konw that i love your work!This is one of the best Env. entry..........again:thumbsup:

[Koma]

Gilgamesh - yes i have to play with the light ,thanks

Alec - hey thanks excellents comments ,if i can vote for the best comments you i have my vote,he he ,:thumbsup:

Hexodam - thanks ,you see right about the pose

mori_leo - thaaaaaaaaaanks

levin - yeah really good idea ,i think i will try it ,thanks

-OZ- - thanks dude ,your entry are really great to ,which program are u using ?just to know,me lightwave

[Koma]

okay so here the last update ,i have something that i would have to get better ,but the challenge is finish and sorry for the cheap res

[Koma]

oups i forgot the image ,but its say this :The uploaded file is not a valid GIF or JPG file. Please ensure that it is and try again

what's that ,i m trying to upload a .jpg f..k

[Koma]

if you really wanna see it here a .zip of the image i delete the .zip and put a links on the next page , i open a tripod site

[levin]

your zip has nothing in it! (or is it only me who can't open it?)

save it it jpg.

gif would be huge.

[Koma]

sorry for this i really dont know what appen ,a make a save for web on photoshop and cg talk dont know the extension ,anyway here the final image one in colour and the other in black and white with red blood

just copy and paste the link below


http://truevision1.tripod.com/dead.jpg

http://truevision1.tripod.com/dead.jpg

[Koma]

okay here the final

[Koma]

and the black version

[The Time Serpent]

i think that u should bend him to the wall cuz if his he shot himself in his left side of the head (the blood splotch on the wall from that?) he woul fall to his right side also he should have some blood on himself.... but its still:thumbsup:

[Joel Hooks]

The splat on the wall should be much larger, and would include grey matter and chunks of bone. I think the force of the gun would snap his face into the mess, bouncing it off the wall and probably end up somewhere similar to where he lands.

The wooden floor is very odd looking - mainly because wooden floors aren't generally found in bathrooms because they warp really bad with moisture.

Very nicely done image!

[The Time Serpent]

if he used magnum or some high caliber gun he will bounce but from lighter guns he wont bounce

[Salamandaa]

Not to nitpick, but even large caliber guns don't knock people around. If he shot himself in the head he'd just sort of slump over, much like in this scene.
Great picture, by the way ^_^

[mori_leo]

I :love: it. Will be the best work.

[Koma]

here an illegal update ,after the 17 th ,but i say it ,so its not so illegal ,he he ,i just add some detail on the scene .

thanks everybody for support and critique

mori_leo - your avatar is really cool,macfarlane rulez

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