PhyTools-2::UniFlex Open Beta!

[JoelOtron]

Thanks Remo

Could you give some information as to what uniflex is/does?
Or a direct link to such info?

Thanks!

[ooo]

Interesting!

From the Remowiki:

UniFlex is the new simulation engine for Roper, Soft-Bodies, Cloth, Semi Rigid Bodies and Fluids (in work).

odo

[GruvDOne]

please help me understand this... you have 2 different physics engine plugins PhyTools and Silver Bullet? What is the overlap here, and why split them off?

[spirozero]

please help me understand this... you have 2 different physics engine plugins PhyTools and Silver Bullet? What is the overlap here, and why split them off?

It's sort of like Photoshop and Photoshop Elements. :D

I have both, only because SB was free for all PhyTools users. But I've never used SB. I hear it's a little more user friendly, although it's not as powerful.

Someone else can probably give you more specifics. :shrug:

[govinda]

I own Silver Bullet but I'm looking for something that has an exclude / include function. For example, if someone's hand hits a shelf of books, I want the books to react ONLY to what the shelf does but not what the hand does.

I'd also like a function that has strong and weak spots on the same object, like a vertex map, so that an object is more likely to break in one area than another. This is much less important than the earlier example though.

I looked at PhyTools and couldn't tell if these functions were included (the confusion is normal for a Remotion plug :) ).

[Remotion]

SilverBullet4D is for now only Rigid Body simulation Engine.
PhyTools contains beside SilverBullet4D, soft body engine and viscous fluid engine and some other plugins.

PhyTools-2 will have two engines UniFlex and SilverBullet4D-Plus.

Exclude / include for collision detection is not supported by SilverBullet4D.
But I will try to integrate this in some way into SilverBullet4D-Plus.

regards,
Remo

[LemonNado]

http://www.onesmall.com/stuff/honey.jpgOne of the mega cool and pure genious things is that there is an automated convex generator tag.... Awesome. Saves TONS of work. Got my key's for 10.5 now... There goes the weekend 8)))))))))))))))))))))).

Remo rocks!

Rainer

[rsquires]

I have a few questions

1. I downloaded the Phytools 2 Uniflex but it asks for a serial number. I don't have one for 2 so what do I do?

2. I have made a nice sim with Silver bullet, but how do I bake it? Just so you know it's a load of blood corpuscles bouncy around in a cylindrical tube. Silver bullet seemed to work better than Phytools when it came to making the cylinder tube part of the sim. Phytools did very weird things to it when it created the convex hull and I gave up with it. Silver bullet just worked, but I am still trying to bake the movement of the objects

Anyone who can answer these queries it would be most appreciated

rich

[govinda]

On point 1, email Remotion, and yes I know that's not easy. As for point 2...

Baking tips:


Reduce how many nulls you have things nested in, because each one will get its own PSR sequences. You'll have more keyframes than you need if you nest things too much.
Reduce your project duration to only the amount of frames necessary (command-D on mac / control-D on windows).
Throw the SilverBullet object into the timeline.
In Functions go to Bake Objects. Go away for a long time while your machine chews.
Once done, you'll have a duplicate SilverBullet object. The baked one will be the bottom one (but verify this by activating the TL>OM function in the timeline).
Pull things out of the baked SilverBullet object and toss it. Save with a new name and then delete your old SilverBullet, the active one.
Now you have a MESS of keyframes. Here's a good top: You probably won't need Scale, so you can use the filter in the timeline to delete all scale keys. This can take forever, but I think it's worth it because that many keyframes slows Cinema to a crawl when you open the timeline. With spherical objects of regular texture, you won't need Rotation either, so you can delete those. This is where V10's timeline really shines--you can delete only a set of keyframes of a certain kind if you look at the menus and filters.
Kill all keyframes off of nulls that you couldn't delete in step 1.
Other people may have more advice also.

[Remotion]

@LemonNado:
Really nice picture!
Do you have animation of this too?


@rsquires:
Point 1:
PhyTools-2 is available for now only for PhyTools-2 License owner.
The Demo will be available probably this week.

Point 2:
If you go to SilverBullet4D RemoWiki (http://www.remotion4d.net/redokuwiki/doku.php?id=SilverBullet4D) then you will find following way to back simulation.

First select SilverBullet4D object then select “Show Tracks..." in context menu.
In Timeline press “Bake Object” from “Functions” tab.
Now select all new created Objects and again open Timeline by pressing “Show Tracks...".
Select all tracks and remove all unused keys by pressing “Clean Tracks”, now you are done. (10.5 only)

One of the future SB4D versions will have internal cache system.

Remo

[LemonNado]

@LemonNado:
Really nice picture!
Do you have animation of this too?


Sorry... no... the demo key ran out... :cry:

But you already hinted good news!
Rainer

[Remotion]

Well the Demo of UniFlex of course with some limitation will be probably available this week.
The Demo of SilverBullet4D+ will be available later.

But there is special offer until 12 June 2008 for PhyTools-2 (http://www.remotion4d.net/plugins_2.0.html) plugins collections.
PhyTools-2 contains all PhyTools-1 plugins,
new UniFlex, new SilverBullet4D+ and ReFluid2D.

regards,
Remo

[rsquires]

Hi Remotion

At the top of this page it said all PhyTools 1 owners there is an open beta so I assumed it would be for PhyTools 1.

Is there an offer for existing Phytools 1 owners to upgrade to PhyTools 2. I don't think I heard about it being updated apart from the e-mail about UniFlex. Could be wrong.

I'll go and check out the website


all the best

rich

[chromecity]

Well the Demo of UniFlex of course with some limitation will be probably available this week.
The Demo of SilverBullet4D+ will be available later.

But there is special offer until 12 June 2008 for PhyTools-2 (http://www.remotion4d.net/plugins_2.0.html) plugins collections.
PhyTools-2 contains all PhyTools-1 plugins,
new UniFlex, new SilverBullet4D+ and ReFluid2D.Hi Remo,

The above link on your page to purchase PhyTools-2 licenses seems messed up. It just goes to a page to purchase SilverBullet4D for 109 Euros.

[rsquires]

Now I am confused. I have licenses for Silver Bullet and PhyTools 1. I can't see the point of upgrading to PhyTools 2 if it only includes PhyTools 1. I would be interested in Silver Bullet Pro but I'd maybe buy it on it's own. Are PhyTools 1 plugins there for legacy. Does Silver Bullet Pro cancel the need for PhyTools 1.

As you can see there are a lot of questions and I am a little confused.

all the best

rich

[LemonNado]

I think it's 109$ for all of it. Which is a mega steal. But then again... I might be totaly wrong.
Time will tell. Right now, we all got nuttin! Let's check back when Remo has finished the release. I know that he's rather busy right now.
Rainer

[chromecity]

I think I saw elsewhere that it was 299 Euros (about $465 USD) for all of it...

[Remotion]

@rsquires:
Of course includes PhyTools-2 all PhyTools-1 pluguns, it is Update.
But PhyTools-2 contains UniFlex, SilverBullet4D+ and ReFluids2D.
PhyTools-2 on RemoWiki (http://www.remotion4d.net/redokuwiki/doku.php?id=phytools2&DokuWiki=c5c83fd0939783f8c6ea0be58f4b7109)

[spirozero]

I still don't get it.

Owners of Silver Bullet and PhyTools 1 can buy the PhyTools 2 package for 109 Euros.

But if you don't own Silver Bullet or PhyTools 1 you can still buy the PhyTools 2 package for 109 Euros?

Is that what he's saying???

[LemonNado]

As I understand it's 109 for an upgrade and 109Eu for a limited time for a new purchase. After that it is 109 for an upgrade and the 299Eu for a new purchase. But then again, I might be wrong. However, that would make sense.
Rainer

[Remotion]

Unfortunately this was an Error in the PHP script.
This was all ways price of SilverBullet4D.

So if you have PhyTools-1 with already contains SilverBullet4D then you can Update to PhyTools-2 with SB4D+ for 99 €.

If you do NOT have PhyTools-1 and do NOT have SB4D then you can get all this for 299 €.
This means UniFlex, SilverBullet4D+ with Extras, ReFluids2D and of course all the PhyTolls-1 plugins.

Remo

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