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Fetus23
04-15-2008, 04:19 PM
Ryan Love is entered in the "Uplift Universe Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/uplift_universe/view_entries.php?challenger=15337)
Latest Update: Final Image: "Choices"
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Fetus23
04-16-2008, 07:18 AM
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Blocking in the first of two characters. The idea is one alien saving the life of another, carried from certain death to saftey.

-love

Fetus23
04-16-2008, 03:41 PM
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Almost finished the base mesh for the second character. So the plan will be to get both characters modeled to a decent level, pose out/concept the final shot then go back in for refinement. So far the base meshes were made in max and I've done a few hours of sculpting on the big guy in zbrush. The final idea is for the big guy to be carrying the little guy off the battlefield, we'll see how it goes.

-love

mdavid
04-17-2008, 03:07 AM
That's an impressive piece of design/modeling. Really nice stuff.

Just wondering, are there going to be no humans at all in this scene? The comp guidelines asked for some human interaction but I'm wondering if you were planning on heading in your own direction

Fetus23
04-17-2008, 05:37 AM
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Thanks Mark, as for the human element, the second character could indeed be a human in suit of some kind. I tend to work out the story as I go :).

Got some sculpting on the 2nd base mesh in this screengrab. Trying different poses with transpose. I think this one looks a bit like the big guy just killed him, maybe a tweak to the eyebrows could fix that. The joints/fingers/toes and pressure points will all be cleaned up once i settle on something. Also starting to think about the clothing (minimal) and jewelry for the big guy, I like jewelry :). Your critics are always welcomed!

-love

Fetus23
04-17-2008, 07:01 AM
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Last thing for tonight, a little paint over for a concept. Time to catch some dreams.

cheers!
-love

Fetus23
04-17-2008, 04:42 PM
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Heres a shot of the little character in the big guys hands, he's still pretty rough. I want to have a nice contrast of a detailed crazy suit and a big half naked muscle alien.

-love

HornlessUnicorn
04-17-2008, 07:25 PM
Hi, Ryan!

Great modeling! :applause: I'm realy curious to see how you'll put it all together.

Keep it up!

Cheers,

Dimitrij.

Cographicz
04-18-2008, 12:26 AM
nice work i love the detail, good luck.

ligi
04-18-2008, 07:57 AM
great stuff.
nice detailing.
looking foreward to see the final

OZ
04-18-2008, 07:59 AM
very interesting stuff. Ur style is very original.

Fetus23
04-18-2008, 04:32 PM
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Tweaking the poses a bit with the base meshes.

Fetus23
04-18-2008, 04:33 PM
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A detailed shot of the human character in his suit. I see now i have to do something about his toes as they are very alien atm :). Still trying to figure out his mask too.

-love

Fetus23
04-20-2008, 07:36 AM
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Started painting the diffuse map for the big guy. Still tons left to model and texture, hope i can get my vision out in time. critics always welcomed!

-cheers
love

plasteredcat
04-20-2008, 12:37 PM
Hi Ryan:
Excellent work so far... I like very much the rough tenderness that this piece breathes. The wounded alien space suit design is very original, it reminds me of Inca or Azteca gods-that on the other hand some especulate with the posibility of them being aliens who visit the earth long time ago- and I think that might be a good design for it's helmet too. For the saviour, maybe his right hand touching his own chest, like interiorizing some affliction, the same way a gorilla would do? I wil try to add something to this character too that would add some contrast between its appeareance and behaviour, some spike-shaped knuckles and stuff like that? Altough it might be too cheesy, maybe... I don't know! Hope all this makes sense, though...Keep it up!
Cheers!

Fetus23
04-21-2008, 04:31 AM
Hey raul, thanks a bunch for the comment, some great ideas in there. I think i'll definatly look at some Inca or Mayan masks for inspiration for his helmet. Also, I'll play with the posing of the big guy a bit more, maybe i can find something more dramatic or with a bit more feeling. Btw, I love the idea of ancient aliens on earth. Its a topic i've read alot about :). Thanks again for the nice words and everyone else who has commented!
I worked a bit on the big guys clothing today. Im going for a kilt type design with some pouches and stash spots. I'm still thinking about his jewelry, probably a couple necklaces, some percings and a bracer, we'll see. Updates as soon as i get this nasty sore throat cleared up.

cheers!
-love

Fetus23
04-21-2008, 11:03 PM
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Got some of the clothing base meshes done and a few other details.

-love

Fetus23
04-22-2008, 04:01 PM
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Added a few more modeled details in this one. Also started render and lighting tests for the final shot. I'm starting to think about a simple background, maybe a forest or cave entrance.

-love

Pegahoul
04-22-2008, 04:22 PM
Cool modelling! the alien look awesome!

dustbin1uk
04-22-2008, 08:28 PM
WOW! Nice work here! Clean render too!

You said on my thread you had trouble with the displacement and went to normal instead. I'll be honest and say it really looks good!

What applications are you using for this?

Mark

decosouza
04-22-2008, 09:29 PM
Man... great work! The big alien is very well done. I think should be a human in the scene.. bacause of competition's rules to make an interection of aleins and humans . Congrats mate!!!

BRUTICUS
04-22-2008, 11:48 PM
nice work man! very interesting concept too, not sure I understand it but that's probably part of why I like it. Look forward to the final image! Giver!

Abronxl
04-23-2008, 06:53 AM
This is really nice modeling. I take it he is a uplifted gorilla :) very nice.

jeromoo
04-23-2008, 01:23 PM
Hi Ryan, I've been meaning to comment earlier. Sorry about that. The rendering of the work is nice. Maybe you would like to add a sense of gravity to the way the big alien is holding the smaller alien? When carrying a heavy object, the muscles will get tense, the biceps expanded from the lifting, the body will lean a bit to its left side because the centre of gravity has changed with the combined weight and form. Also try having the alien carry the victim on both of its palm, so that it can give a clear expression of being concern.

Another important thing to note is the role of human in this work. I suppose that the human is inside the victim's armor, but it is not obvious at all and could be other aliens too. Are you going to give the victim a proper human identity?

All the best!

varma
04-23-2008, 02:58 PM
That's a really power_loaded imagery!
groovy, in other words!
:applause:

Jay-Mo
04-23-2008, 03:46 PM
Wow, this image really creeps me out in a good way. When my brother was 3 he found a dead rabbit and carried it's limp body up to me in the same manner. Total flash back moment for me. The modelling and texturing look great. My only suggestion would be to tilt the head of the dead body further back.

Fetus23
04-23-2008, 07:35 PM
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Thank you all for the kind words!

pegaoul – thanks, glad you like him so far.

dustbin1uk - hey dustin, thanks for the kind words. For this project I'm using Max to model all the base meshes, Zbrush to sculpt highpoly details and Maya for the final setup and rendering. I will explain more on my process when I have some time.

decosouza- thank you, actually there is a human in the scene :), if you look closely the hurt/dead/faking guy is actually a human in a suit. I agree though that this isn't as clear as it could be. I have an idea for my final image that may tie it together.

BRUTICUS-thanks man, I'm ready, are you?

Abronxl- uplifted gorilla? maybe :), can you see the baboon on the top of his head? ;) thanks for the words.

jeromoo- thanks for the critic man, I agree with pretty much everything you've said,my latest render here shows me I still have muscle form to develop on the big guy. The pose is a tricky one, I initially tried a 2 handed pose but found the human was far too small to fit that way, I could have scaled him up but I want their size different to be large.
I'm still tweaking it so I'll try to add more weight to the one I've settled on. His shoulder could also be tilted a bit more to show the weight of the human. The feet need more planting too. Thanks again for the words!

varma- thanks! I've tried to make something with some feeling, I'm glad it’s translating for you.

Jay-Mo- haha creeepy man!! That’s a great image to use as inspiration.

I've added a bunch more small details in this latest render. I went for a flat b/w render to see all my mistakes and areas that need improving one last time before I jump into texturing full steam. I finally had a vision for my final scene, I think there will be many humans hiding in places in the background watching this scene unfold. Is it a trap? bait? The humans are dressed for battle in suits that resemble the mortal enemies of the Baboon race (big guys). Baboon man finds this human in the suit laying in the path.
He knows the humans have allied with....THEM! More to come on that.

-love

ChrRambow
04-23-2008, 09:47 PM
Great Zbrush work and Idea!

You can feel sadness when looking at his expression ... also the hanging and lifeless arms
add much to this feeling. It's somehow cute and sad together. Very Good i like that much!

Fetus23
04-24-2008, 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the nice words ChrRambow!
Some small changes and details added. Here's a bunch of different angles, no renders this time, just screengrabs from the Maya viewport.

-love

sasquatch70
04-24-2008, 06:44 PM
Hey Ryan,

Exceptional modeling skills. I love your concept.I think the humans head could be hanging a little lower, and tilted back to make him a little more limp.As for the big guy, looking at his physical stature I think the human ways about 3lbs to him. To make a long story short, the distribution of weight looks fine.The pose simply shows his strength.Hurry up and finish so you can help me with mineLOL. Fantastic work.
Brad

Fetus23
04-24-2008, 07:42 PM
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Thanks Brad, going as fast as i can!

Ok, something a bit different here. I'm not too sure I like it. Maybe the expression or the head angle needs tweaking, looks likes he's yawning...or taking his last breath. I can't tell :). but at least he's a human? hmm..

-love

JoPu
04-25-2008, 01:30 AM
Hi, Ryan!

Great modeling! and i like the alien, where is the human? looking forward to see more of your art:beer:

Slav
04-25-2008, 06:01 AM
cool stuff here. i cant wait to see how this fits into your image. keep it up, ill be stalking.

HornlessUnicorn
04-25-2008, 09:58 AM
Great work, mate!

One thing though - if the human is dead, his head should (by force of gravity and no muscle power to resist it) hang down since there doesn't seem to be anything upholding it. I'm glad you decided to show the face. Maybe the mouth should't be quite as wide open as it is?

Keep up the great work :)

Cheers,

Dimitrij.

Fetus23
04-25-2008, 07:46 PM
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Thanks all! the human has arrived! I agree with your crits about his head and mouth Dimitrij I will work them into the final pose for sure. I still have to make some simple teeth and work on the model a bit, first pass color here.

-love

ahmetekn
04-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Hey Ryan, great modeling and character design! Short character's clothes is amazing. Good luck for final stage :thumbsup:

Ferx
04-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Hey Ryan, that models are awesome , love the great deatils and shapes. The design for the human outfit and first color pass looks superb :buttrock: , really great work!! and cant wait to see your next update! Cheers mate!! :beer:

Fetus23
04-26-2008, 05:11 PM
Ferx and ahmetekn - thanks so much for the encouragment!! I was supposed to get alot done this weekend lets see if i can. I've been working on the bigguys gear and the little guys suit some more. Updates soon.

-love

Slav
04-26-2008, 06:58 PM
that last one with the texture really makes a diffrence. the characters are really comming allong now!

Pegahoul
04-26-2008, 07:10 PM
That's the human? Scary-cool costume ^^

Fetus23
04-26-2008, 09:57 PM
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Thanks guys!
As I was working some small detail that doesn't matter, i thought to myself , its now time to pull back and see whats really going on. So I've done some very quick concepts about my ideas for the composition and environment. A and B, not sure which I'm going to go with yet. Your ideas are always welcomed!

-love

sasquatch70
04-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Hey Ryan,

I don't know if were supposed to vote on A or B, but I like A.
I think it would be cool to have some kind of small crashed vessel he's taking him out of too. Anyways, awesome work. Brad

beelow
04-27-2008, 09:28 AM
I really like the flow of shapes and design in A. Both have good composition. But the style of A sells for a more interesting dynamic cool sketches and dope modeling.

Fetus23
04-27-2008, 10:18 AM
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Brad, Bryce, Thanks a bunch for the input guys. I went with A and started blocking in the 3d soon after. I felt B was just too Cliché with the moon and all. I'll have some fun modeling these alien trees too, I think they will be in a similar style and color to the human suit. So I've got a lot left to do If I want to finish this. I think its time to start detailing/texturing individual clothing pieces, then the trees, ground, rocks and anything thats left over.

-love

ahmetekn
04-27-2008, 12:43 PM
Hey Ryan, this render is beutiful. Ligting is emphatic. :buttrock: But, I think "B" environmet more beutiful than "A". Keep it up mate :thumbsup:

decosouza
04-27-2008, 07:28 PM
Hei, here's an woderful update. The colors fit perfectly with the feelings and help me to see the difference between the alien and human now. Great improvement!

André de Souza

ChrRambow
04-27-2008, 09:08 PM
I agree with Ahmet ... B is more "epic" because of the vertical layout and lighting from behind. Wonderful work. :beer:

Fetus23
04-28-2008, 09:21 AM
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Thanks for the words and suggestions guys! Most appreciated. So I've started working on the trees here. I'm also always playing with the color and framing in every wip shot, looking for something that fits. I tried adding a second human to the scene today, it worked out alright and I think I'll continue with it (update on that soon). As you can see the trees are similar to the human suits, they hide within this forest. I enjoyed the vertical composition but felt it lost focus on the characters so I'll be going with something a little more zoomed in.

-love

Azagthoth
04-28-2008, 03:13 PM
Ryan, very nice!
I like the man's costumes (remember me mdk game)
My only comment: the man face should appear more.
Perhaps the camera on top makes everything more dramatic. ( "plongeé" angle, I think)
(sorry my english :S )

dustbin1uk
04-28-2008, 03:31 PM
Keep going mate! This looks freakin awesome so far!

Necronomiden
04-28-2008, 05:04 PM
you've come a long way ryan, its really cool to have seen this from the beginning, i agree with marcos about the camera angle, also what do you plan to do with the circle in his belt?:wip:

Spin99
04-29-2008, 02:32 AM
Yeh I think this piece has really grown.
Huge emotional impact now very strong work imho

Pity can't figure if the little guy's dead which makes it all the more enticing.

Nice work.

winchester
04-29-2008, 08:22 PM
wow,
fantastic characters fetus23!
excellent subtle vitaliy in the big guy. cool gieger like suite on the human! love the color scheme too!
id like to see you try a variation or two of the horizon line. maybe break it up a bit, or have it bend upwards, instead of down. Thats bein picky though.

Lookin great!

Fetus23
04-30-2008, 08:15 AM
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Good feedback everyone.

Marcos-Thanks! Not too sure about changing the camera angle but I have taken your suggestion about showing the mans face more.

Mark - Thanks for the words mate!

Octostatue- The circle is coming! I unwrapped all the cloth,straps and ropes, now they just need textures and normals.

Spin99-Maybe his last breath has not left?..I think it has :). thanks for the words.

winchester- I have tried a variation on the horizon here, I think I like it, much thanks!

Latest wip render, The planet keeps changing...It needs a proper ground next. I'll do some smaller vegetation if i have time. Maybe some low poly trees for the distance. tictic. A new man has appeared here, the truth is dawning on him....

-love

DaVee
04-30-2008, 09:27 AM
I look at all your thread fetus23, and i was impressed by your modeling. The third caracter add much more emotion, it get better relation and tell an history between the two different species.

Great work.

David.

Necronomiden
05-01-2008, 03:05 AM
it looks really great now that you added the other human :drool: and its nice to see the deadguys face :D, the image has a really weird emotion hard to describe... its like the little guy looking at the alien is like "what the hell man!?" and the alien is like "i donno what happened bro... we were having so much fun" :argh:

JoPu
05-01-2008, 03:58 AM
Great work man, looking forward to see more:)

HornlessUnicorn
05-01-2008, 06:12 AM
Looks much better now, my Friend :) Great work!:applause: Cheers,

Dimitrij.

dustbin1uk
05-01-2008, 07:52 AM
This is coming along very nicely! Your really taking on board all the suggestions people are making, but more than that, your making this wonderful image your own.

The lighting is so much better and the feel of the scene is really coming out.

I think the standing human might do better if he was standing with one foot back in a kind of shocked pose, maybe with an arm raised.

Your composition is brilliant on this picture, my eye is drawn to the unconscious human, and when that badge on the alien is filled in, my eye will drift there without stopping too much.

I recommend a subtle pattern on the badge, nothing that takes your eye away from the dying/dead human or alien.

But seriously mate, your work is inspiring me to keep going with mine, even though I may not finish it on time.

Well done!!

OZ
05-01-2008, 08:19 AM
Incredible design...the organic suit is a true piece of art!

Fetus23
05-02-2008, 09:43 AM
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Thanks so much for all the kind words everyone! gives me good motivation to keep going. Trying something for fun here, just a different cropping and a flipped angle, I'll be going back to my other comp but its always fun to explore other ideas and experiment. Sorry to be so brief, not much time left now, this weekend is very important.

cheers!
-love

jeromoo
05-02-2008, 03:50 PM
Hi Ryan, I have been trying to figure a suitable scenario for the characters you have created. The humans are wearing some strange armour that looks like armoured mole, so they could be miners on some foreign planet. Suddenly one day their mine caved in. So what happens in your scene could be when the planet's native comes to their aid. That is what it initially looked like for me. What do you think, Ryan?

The humans' suits are really unique!

Marcial3D
05-02-2008, 04:42 PM
Nice work, is impressive!!!

dustbin1uk
05-02-2008, 08:01 PM
That logo on his belt is great! and I prefer the lighting now.

Though I think the cropping is too tight now, I preferred the open scene you had before, the composition was better and the eye was drawn better the the tragedy of the human in the aliens arms as the rocks behind seemed to frame the characters well.

jeromoo makes a really good point though, how about some equipment or bags, or utility items. It would give the creatures in the scene a reason for being there.

This is still one of my favourite peaces in the whole contest, well done!

Phill99
05-03-2008, 03:50 AM
Nice concept. good job and good luck!

Necronomiden
05-03-2008, 08:31 AM
great job on the belt ryan, i also liked your last compotition better :)

DaVee
05-03-2008, 09:02 AM
Though I think the cropping is too tight now, I preferred the open scene you had before, the composition was better and the eye was drawn better the the tragedy of the human in the aliens arms as the rocks behind seemed to frame the characters well.

I agree with you the last picture take off some interresting relationship between alien and human.
May be you could move camera a bit to the left and enlarge frame. it's not necessary to show the whole body of the human stand right side but a bit more could be better. So it's my 2cts of advices.

however Very nice pict.

David.

Fetus23
05-06-2008, 06:37 AM
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Thank you all for the great feedback! I'm working on the story and environment hard this week. Trying many things with the background, nothing really fits yet to me so here just a shot of the characters in their current state, almost done!

-love

Fetus23
05-06-2008, 04:31 PM
Some replies n stuff.



DaVee - Thanks for the words! I agree about the cropping, I'll open it up for the final shot for sure.

Octostatue - ha! Thanks Surgio That’s a funny idea to caption the big guy with "I dunno man we we're just playin!" :D

dustbin1uk - Thanks so much for the support Mark! I will defiantly go back to a more open comp for my final. You need to finish your entry man!

jeromoo - Ahh great story there, thank you. I really like the idea of adding some equipment or some techy bits laying around, I may explore that, but time is short now.

JoPu, HornlessUnicorn, OZ, Marcial3D, Phill99 - Thanks so much for the kind support guys....to the end!!!

So it’s almost time to wrap this one up. Time for that massive render, hmmm hope it works :).

Some technical info. The whole scene is sitting at about 1 million polys in maya. I'd say over 10 million altogether in zbrush. I think 10 million polys to render in mental ray is a bit crazy so I'm using normal maps to transfer that detail to my (still very highpoly) render meshes. Ideally, I should use displacement mapping but was unable to figure out a good workflow fast enough and I'm a game artist after all. :) Normal maps are no stranger to me so I went with what I was comfortable using. All the main bodies have 2048 diff/spec/normal and most of the gear and background pieces are sporting 1024 diff/spec/normal. I think the biggest technical challenge will be rendering the very large final image, I may have to composite some of this together in the end.

cheers!

-love

GaeasHerald
05-06-2008, 06:02 PM
The big guy's expression is really puzzling. For me, it looks like the face of a child that's just broken his favourite toy. It's great cause it makes the viewer think and get involved with the picture. Great job!

Fetus23
05-07-2008, 06:15 AM
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I managed to get a decent size render off last night, here's the small version. I'll sit on this image for a day or 2 then see if i want to make any changes before final but I think its pretty much done for me.

-cheers
love

headtrip
05-07-2008, 06:47 AM
So much detail, excellent modeling and great texturing!

I really like how you bordered the image. This has a great surreal mood.

Impressive.

scala
05-07-2008, 06:54 AM
Hey Ryan wonderful Wip . Did the human suit got something to do with the Maori ?

Ferx
05-07-2008, 07:17 AM
Hey Ryan, looks awesome, love the textures on your image! And the frame formed by the "alien" tree is really cool! Cheers mate! :beer:

dustbin1uk
05-07-2008, 08:08 AM
Woot! Ryan! I love it! It looks great! And you are still trying to improve it, which is admirable.

I love the logo and straps on the alien, they are detailed without being unsubtle.

Sigh, I wish I could finish mine in time for the deadline, but sadly bloody life gets in the way.
2 jobs to work and 5 websites to design, and I am stuffed for time. :argh:
But I am still going to finish it even if it doesn't make the deadline. Thanks for your encouragement.

Anyway! Keep going mate, this looks great and I have now made it my desktop wallpaper to inspire me.

dustbin1uk
05-07-2008, 09:19 AM
One other idea, what about a smoking building off in the distance? Gives them a reason to be there and tells a little bit more of the story. Nothing elaborate, just a small bunker that could lead down to a mine or something.

You could put it somewhere to the top left horizon line. That way you could keep the frame of rock/tree you have there, and not have to move the characters or anything else in the scene.

Just an idea.

plasteredcat
05-07-2008, 11:57 AM
It's looking amazing... The framing is really cool. As it is, this picture reminds me somehow those old Richard Corben illustrations. I'd only say that a bit more of free space over his head might improve the overall comp? Just a thought.
Storytelling wise, I agree something like a crash site in the background would make much sense, but since the other human is kind of welcoming the alien, it might be that he's found the carried in the middle of the desert too.
Brilliant piece anyhow!

Paul4wood
05-07-2008, 01:02 PM
Very eye-catching image! Great modelling, texturing and colour control. First class!

Ivy00
05-07-2008, 01:31 PM
This is looking great, I wasn't sure what kind of background you were going to put in and I think it fits very well with the characters. Excellent stuff :)

Fetus23
05-07-2008, 07:56 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210190159_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210190159_large.jpg)

Thanks all for the fantastic support, arrg such great ideas you all have, I should have started this challenge earlier!! I will see what I can do with these ideas this weekend, maybe time for a small change. Heres a close up 100% view.

-love

digitaldecoy
05-07-2008, 08:51 PM
That looks very, very good! I love the stylized lighting which looks a bit light stage lighting in a theatre. Your models come out really good and the detail supports the whole composition.

I have one little thought about the pose of the alien. He holds the whole weight of the dead human but his feet stand close together. He looks a bit like he'll fall to the right. If it's still possible, you might place the alien's left food (right in the image) abit further outwards in order to support the weight of the human.

However, it's allready a really beautiful artwork!

azazel
05-07-2008, 09:31 PM
Hi, nice to see You too :)
You could blur the transition between the 3d ground and the backround image. Also, the teal-colored rim light (top-right side) on the big guy would be a nice touch (the sky almost suggests such thing).

BRUTICUS
05-07-2008, 09:43 PM
nice dude! love it. he looks like he tried hard to save the little guy

DaVee
05-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Great, The enlargement you done in previous post is really good, i like your image like she is now.
Good idea to post a close up. we can apreciate all details you got in differents parts like necklace, belt, human suit.

David.

JoPu
05-08-2008, 02:12 AM
Cool Update, like the detail keep it up:)

Azagthoth
05-08-2008, 03:34 PM
wow! Ryan,
to each update
the work is more impressive.

dustbin1uk
05-08-2008, 04:02 PM
Hey don't let the ideas pressure you!

I have a bad habit of brainstorming out loud sometimes. It's all just ramblings in the ether.

Just remember this is your image and you do what you want with it.

From what we all see so far, this is an awesome and beautiful image! It's way up there in my top 3.

Ferx
05-08-2008, 07:08 PM
Hey Ryan, simple awesome textures!! Incredible work my friend!:thumbsup: Cheers!! :beer;

beelow
05-08-2008, 08:15 PM
I like how this image is shaping up since I've last visited. Some concerns that I had are already addressed good luck with finishing this image. Later.

Fetus23
05-09-2008, 04:14 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210349679_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210349679_large.jpg)

Thanks so much everyone! I worked some more on the details of the hands and a few other parts. This is another zoomed in shot of the final image. The final came out at 1600x1860, I've been trying to get a larger one with my current render setup....crash crash. ah well i think its big enough, so I'll just be fiddling with a few more details then done.

-love

Fetus23
05-10-2008, 05:41 PM
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/uplift_viewport_RL.jpg

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/uplift_greyshaded_RL.jpg

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/uplift_greyshaded_RL.jpg
https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/uplift_viewport_RL.jpg

Heres a couple screen grabs from the maya viewport of the finished models. And now I'll give a small explination of my technical process for this image.

1. I made all the base meshes in 3dmsax and used the regular poly modeling tools. Everything was fit together and lined up properly in max. For this piece, I laid down my final topology before I went into Zbrush to sculpt. I had all the edge loops in that helped me define my characters and parts when I was sculpting. Doing it this way I didn't need to re-top my mesh since the topology was already good. I think doing it this way gave me less freedom while sculpting and required more planning when constructing my base mesh. When the base meshes were done I put one smooth level on the objects and exported each piece as an obj (belt, rope1, rope2, body1, skirt etc). At this point I haven't unwrapped anything yet, I do that later, after sculpting.

2. I took these base mesh objs into Zbrush one at a time and sculpted details onto them and posed them if necessary. After I finished sculpting I used the poly painting tools in Zbrush to paint my diffuse and spec maps directly onto the meshes at a high sub-d level. Once that was done, depending on the part, I would either export the lowest sub-d level back to max for unwrapping or use Zbrushes AUV tiles feature to generate UVs.

3. I created all my normal maps inside Zbrush using Zmapper. I exported my meshes at level 2 sub-d, sometimes level 3 (for the main characters). I took all these objs from Zbrush and imported them into Maya where I applied my shaders with all the textures that were created in zbrush. The rendering for this one was in Maya with mental ray. There are 3 slightly colored lights in the scene, one main light, a rim light and a fill light.


Final image incoming....
Thanks sooo much to everyone who has commented and gave me great critic to make this peice better! The challenge was a blast and good luck to you all!!

cheers!
-love

Fetus23
05-10-2008, 05:47 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210441656_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/20/15337/15337_1210441656_large.jpg)

Larger Version 1024x1184 (https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/RL_uplift_universe_final_2.jpg)


"He thought of all the things the humans had done to his kind since they arrived. He could still feel the heartbeat, he knew the humans life force had not left his body. The choices were clear but not easy to make, crush the man and extend the violence between the two races or return him alive to the humans as a gesture of goodwill and peace. The next few moments are critical."

-love

ahmetekn
05-10-2008, 05:58 PM
Excellent work! Congrats mate. :thumbsup: Characters, textures and rendering perfect. Very artistic composition and ligting :wip: . Good luck for final step :beer:

dustbin1uk
05-10-2008, 10:37 PM
It's been a real pleasure to see this image come to life. And what a wonderful result!

Well done, you should be VERY proud of yourself.
Mark.

scala
05-11-2008, 04:34 AM
Ryan I was really Happy to discover your work and your 3d Style. Congratulations

HornlessUnicorn
05-11-2008, 10:50 AM
Congratulations to this wonderfull entry! So many fine details and great sculpting!

The best of luck to you!

Dimitrij.

gpepper
05-11-2008, 09:38 PM
Excellent ! My favourite, definitively !

Azagthoth
05-12-2008, 10:10 PM
Ryan,
excellent! the story is also great.
congrats,

decosouza
05-12-2008, 10:48 PM
Fantastic Ryan. Textures are perfect to me. Really amazing work. Good luck mate!!;)

JurajMolcak
05-12-2008, 11:27 PM
Great! I wasnt following your wip but you did excelent entry! Absolute inspiration. Good luck.

JoPu
05-13-2008, 03:24 AM
Great Ryan, fantastic final image, good luck

Necronomiden
05-13-2008, 06:44 AM
damn ryan! all the work you've done its great, love the screenshots btw, great image man congrats!:cool:

Fetus23
05-13-2008, 07:05 AM
I've added a link to a larger version in my final image post and at the bottom here.

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/RL_uplift_universe_final_2.jpg

https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/17900/RL_uplift_universe_final_2.jpg

Thank you all so much for the great ideas and help through out the challenge and cheers to everyone for making such an awsome batch of artwork. As usual I learned alot from watching everyones work progress, which is the best part of the challenges for me. It makes me want to do these more often :).


take care all!!
-love

akahraman
05-13-2008, 09:23 AM
I can't take myself away to watch your piece. Especially cloth designs and details are so tasteful. I guess you have a huge profession about such as costumes and armor suits.
Great job.. Congrats man..
:beer:

alarihos
05-13-2008, 09:30 AM
Congratulations Ryan!! You certainly have my best model/ best character vote at least!! The modeling and shading of your alien and of the human uniform is unreal!! Also the expression the alien has is very moving. He looks like a Shakspearean or ancient greek tragic hero. Really into the story. I wish you the best of luck here my friend.

my uplift image (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=235&t=611455&page=1&pp=15)

John Keates
05-13-2008, 10:04 AM
Really nice work, particularly the texturing.

Paul4wood
05-13-2008, 11:23 AM
Congratulations on finishing this outstanding image, Ryan!
Bravo!

RupertD
05-13-2008, 03:03 PM
Amazing work Ryan. :beer: Serious modelling and texture work. The only thing I could crit is the signature? Something handwritten would be much better than Times Roman. ;)

ChrRambow
05-13-2008, 05:19 PM
Fantastic final! I really like the composition a lot. :)

winchester
05-13-2008, 11:27 PM
Congrats on an exceptional illustration Fetus23. I really love it! I really appreciate the vitality of the alien. There is so much life in a pose which could have been stale. You have poured so much emotion an life into him. LOVE the designs. Love the colors.

Hats off to you!

mv
05-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Fetus! dude it's been a long time :O
awesome picture man, I wouldn't expect less from you.
How are things going?

sasquatch70
05-15-2008, 11:05 PM
Hey Ryan,

I'm glad you posted a larger image. The details and intracies are top notch. Very strong piece. Congrats!
Brad

Ferx
05-15-2008, 11:42 PM
Hey Ryan, simply incredible image!! Your rich textures are superb!! And love the light mood and atmosphere on your image, and the awesome feeling on it. Beautiful image!! :buttrock: Thanks for the high resolution image, simply cool!! Congratulations for this awesome artwork! Best of luck my friend! And yes!! time for cold beer and a lot of tequila shots!! yeaaaa!! :D Cheers my friend!! :beer:

nwiz25
05-16-2008, 03:21 AM
absolutely stunning!! :eek: i simply love the expression on their faces! top notch!
congratulations on finishing dude! :thumbsup:

stridiggio
05-18-2008, 05:09 AM
wow! hey Ryan! how are u doing!

Amazing work you did! is powerfull in all aspects... i'm glad for know a Master in 3d and Imagination...congratulations, you can be the winner shure!, and i hope it,, i like the composition, texture details, concept, and the big strong of principal character...

This is an Epic Image, you won!... (comming next in a Game!), it would be great!...

Good luck!
¡Buena suerte!, David R.

dur23
06-06-2008, 01:11 AM
I thought i recognized that style there buddy. I'm glad to see your still alive. Awesome work! :wip:

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