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Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 07:23 AM
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OFDW 023: April 12, 2008 - May 12, 2008

Welcome to the TWENTY-THIRD thread of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop!

This workshop is open to any medium and any style - traditional or digital 2D or 3D. Some informal moderation will be gladly provided - however, the purpose of the Workshop is for Artists to interact with and informally critique one another’s work.

The goal of this Workshop is to COMPLETE 25 HAND STUDIES IN ONE MONTH! (For 3D modelers, your goal may be to complete 2 hands studies in one month). You may also choose to do one (or more) complete figure studies from the reference provided.

If you are working on completing 25 hands, you are welcome to use reference from other sources, so long as you provide a link to your reference for others to use in the Workshop. You are additionally welcome to work from life!

As always, the OFDWs are open to both 2D and 3D artists.

Reference Source:
www.artrenewal.org (http://www.artrenewal.org/)

http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023-thumbs_A.jpg
http://anatomy.cgnetworks.com/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023-thumbs-template_B.jpg


Provided Reference of Hands:
Please note: If you are working on completing 25 hands, you are welcome to use reference from other sources, so long as you provide a link to your reference for others to use in the Workshop. You are additionally welcome to work from life!

Click on Image Number below to access images that correspond to the thumbnail images above:

1. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1560)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
David [detail]
Marble, 1504
Galleria dell'Accademia, Florence

2. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12865)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Madonna and Child
Marble, 1501-1505
Vrouwekerk, Bruges

3. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12868)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Madonna and Child [detail: 3]
Marble, 1501-1505
Vrouwekerk, Bruges

4. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1637)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
The Conversion of Saul [detail]
Fresco, 1545
Cappella Paolina, Palazzi Pontifici, Vatican

5. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12896)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Lorenzo de' Medici: Dawn [detail: 1]
Marble, 1524-1531
Sagrestia Nuova, San Lorenzo, Florence

6. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12894)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Lorenzo de' Medici: Lorenzo de' Medici [detail: 1]
Marble, 1524-1531
Sagrestia Nuova, San Lorenzo, Florence

7. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12927) (alt) 7A. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=15545)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Pope Julius II: Moses
Marble, 1545
S. Pietro in Vincoli, Rome

8. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1642)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
The Holy Family with the Infant John the Baptist
Tempera on panel, c.1503
Galleria degli Uffizi, Florence

9. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12873)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Christ Carrying the Cross [detail: 1]
Marble, c.1521
Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome

10. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12899)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Medici Madonna [detail: 2]
Marble, 1521-1531
Sagrestia Nuova, San Lorenzo, Florence

11. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12886)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Slave (dying)
Marble, c.1513
Musée du Louvre, Paris

12. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1881)
Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1598-1680)
Rape of Proserpine [detail: 1]
Marble, 1621-1622
Galleria Borghese, Rome

13. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=13140)
Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1598-1680)
The Rape of Proserpine [detail: 4]
Marble, 1621-1622
Galleria Borghese, Rome

14. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7645)
Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1598-1680)
Memorial Bust of Gabriele Fonseca
Marble, c.1665
San Lorenzo in Lucina, Rome

15. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9446)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Vicomtess Othenin d'Haussonville, née Louise-Albertine de Broglie [detail]
Oil on canvas, 1845
51 7/8 x 36 1/8 inches (131.8 x 92 cm)
Frick Collection, New York

16. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9431&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Baronne James de Rothschild, née Betty von Rothschild
Oil on canvas, 1848
55 3/4 x 39 3/4 inches (141.9 x 101 cm)
Private collection

17. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9300)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Louis-François Bertin
Oil on canvas, 1832
45 5/8 x 37 3/8 inches (116 x 95 cm)
Musée du Louvre, Paris

18. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9289)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Amédée-David, Comte de Pastoret
Oil on canvas, 1826
40 1/2 x 32 3/4 inches (103 x 83.5 cm)
The Art Institute of Chicago, Chicago

19. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=5696)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame Henri Gonse
Oil on canvas, 1845-1852
28 5/8 x 24 3/8 inches (73 x 62 cm)
Musée Ingres, Montauban

20. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9306&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame Paul-Sigisbert Moitessier, née Marie-Clotilde-Inès de Foucauld, Seated [detail]
Oil on canvas, 1856
47 1/8 x 36 1/4 inches (120 x 92.1 cm)
National Gallery, London

21. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9299&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Lorenzo Bartolini
Oil on canvas, 1820
41 5/8 x 33 1/2 inches (106 x 85.1 cm)
Musée du Louvre, Paris

22. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9301&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Madame de Senonnes, née Marie-Geneviève-Marguerite Marcoz, later Vicomtess de Senonnes
Oil on canvas, 1814
41 5/8 x 33 inches (106 x 84 cm)
Musée des Beaux-Arts, Nantes

23. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7126&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study of Hands and Feet for The Golden Age
Oil on canvas, 1862
Fogg Art Museum, Harvard University, Cambridge

24. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7211)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Delphine Ramel, Madame Ingres
Oil on canvas, 1859
Oskar Reinhart Foundation, Winterthur

25. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7124&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

26. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=17&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Petites Maraudeuses [Little Thieves]
Oil on canvas, 1872
78 7/8 x 42 7/8 inches (200.5 x 109 cm)
Private collection

27. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=18&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
La Charité [Charity]
Oil on canvas, 1878
77 1/8 x 46 inches (196 x 117 cm)
Private collection

28. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=56&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Au Bord du Ruisseau [At the Edge of the Brook]
Oil on canvas, 1875
Collection of Fred and Sherry Ross

29. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=23&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Le Ravissement de Psyche [The Rapture of Psyche]
Oil on canvas, 1895
82 1/4 x 47 1/8 inches (209 x 120 cm)
Private collection

30. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=52&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Flagellation de Notre Seigneur Jésus Christ [The Flagellation of Our Lord Jesus Christ]
Oil on canvas, 1880
121 5/8 x 83 3/8 inches (309 x 212 cm)
Cathedral of La Rochelle, La Rochelle

31. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=26&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Pietà
Oil on canvas, 1876
90 1/2 x 58 1/4 inches (230 x 148 cm)
Dallas Museum of Fine Arts, Dallas

32. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=28&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Le Repos [Rest]
Oil on canvas, 1879
64 1/2 x 42 1/8 inches (164 x 107 cm)
Cleveland Museum of Art, Cleveland

33. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=64&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Petite boudeuse [The little sulk]
Oil on canvas, 1888
48 3/8 x 33 3/4 inches (123 x 86 cm)
Rahr-West Museum, Manitowoc

34. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1343&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Le Gué [The Ford]
Oil on canvas, 1895
61 x 27 7/8 inches (155 x 71 cm)
Collection of Fred and Sherry Ross

35. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=58&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Douleur d'amour [Elegy]
Oil on canvas, 1899
Private collection

36. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=69&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Jeune Bergere [Young Shepherdess]
Oil on canvas laid down on board, 1885
62 x 28 1/2 inches (157.5 x 72.5 cm)
San Diego Museum of Art, San Diego

37. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1695&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Jeune Fille Allant à la Fontaine [Young Girl Going to the Fountain]
Oil on canvas, 1885
63 1/8 x 28 7/8 inches (160.5 x 73.5 cm)
Dahesh Museum, New York City

38. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1332&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
La Vierge, L'Enfant Jesus et Saint Jean Baptiste [The Virgin, the Baby Jesus and Saint John the Baptist]
Oil on canvas, 1875
78 7/8 x 48 inches (200.5 x 122 cm)
Private collection

39. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1697&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
L'art et la Litterature [Art and Literature]
Oil on canvas, 1867
78 5/8 x 42 1/2 inches (200 x 108 cm)
Arnot Art Museum Elmira, New York City

40. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1413&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Les Noisettes [Hazelnuts]
Oil on canvas, 1882
34 3/8 x 52 3/4 inches (87.5 x 134 cm)
Detroit Institute of Art

41. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1414&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
L'Orage [The Storm]
Oil on canvas, 1874
Private collection

42. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1058&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Jeune Fille se Defendant Contre L'amour [Young Girl Defending herself against Cupid]
Oil on canvas, 1880
North Carolina Museum of Art, Raleigh

43. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9541)
Jusepe de Ribera (1591-1652)
St Christopher
Oil on canvas, 1637
50 x 39 1/4 inches (127 x 100 cm)
Museo del Prado, Madrid

44. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9643&hires=1)
John William Waterhouse (1849-1917)
Destiny
Oil on canvas, 1900
26 7/8 x 21 5/8 inches (68.5 x 55 cm)
Towneley Hall Art Gallery and Museums, Burnley

45. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=841)
John William Waterhouse (1849-1917)
Jason and Medea
Oil on canvas, 1907
Private collection

46. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12621)
Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)
Altarpiece of St Ildefonso (right panel)
Oil on wood, c.1639
138 1/2 x 42 7/8 inches (352 x 109 cm)
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna

47. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12638)
Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)
Venus in Fur-Coat
Oil on wood, c.1630-1640
69 1/4 x 32 5/8 inches (176 x 83 cm)
Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna

48. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12657)
Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)
Portrait of a Young Woman
Black chalk, 1628-1635
Museum Boymans-van Beuningen, Rotterdam

49. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12634)
Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)
The Straw Hat
Oil on wood, c.1625
31 x 21 5/8 inches (79 x 55 cm)
National Gallery, London

50. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=13010)
Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)
Study of hands
Silverpoint and white highlights on pink prepared paper, c.1474
8 3/8 x 5 7/8 inches (21.4 x 15 cm)
Royal Library, Windsor Castle, London

Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 07:23 AM
RULES FOR THE THREADS

1. Photographs are the property of www.artrenewal.org (http://www.artrenewal.org/).

2. The work created from the photo reference provided here MUST be TASTEFUL, SINCERE, RESPECTFUL, and for the purpose of serious study of the human figure. Those who post silly, disrespectful, or tasteless work will have their posts deleted immediately and will no longer be allowed to post on this thread.

3. This Workshop will run from April 12, 2008 - May 12, 2008.

4. There is NO LIMIT to the NUMBER of posts an artist may make. However, we ask that you post only your BEST WORK, even if it is considered unfinished. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR WIP IMAGES PER HAND SINCE THE WORKSHOP CALLS FOR 25 HANDS / PERSON!

5. Artists who post comments and critiques of other artists' work on this thread must be RESPECTFUL, POLITE, and offer CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. Flaming will be NOT be tolerated, and constitutes dismissal from this and other threads.

6. I will be offering the occasional comments / critique - however, the main focus of the Open Figure Drawing Workshop threads should be on Group Critique and interaction. :)

7. ANY MEDIUM or STYLE may be used: Traditional or Digital Drawing or Painting, Gestural, Sketch, Finished Render, etc.

8. 3D Artists who wish to use the reference for 3D models are free to do so.

9. Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

10. Please post your (limited / within reason) WIP and finished work to this thread. However, you are welcome (though not required) to also post your work to your Personal Sketchbook Thread if you already have one, or to create one if you do not, here:

(http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)Personal Anatomy & Sketchbook Threads (http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=200)

11. Have fun, enjoy, and create great art! :)


***

PLEASE NOTE: WIP (Work In Progress) images are an important part of the OFDWs and are encouraged. Please DO post WIP images as you work on your pieces. However given that the Workshop calls for 25 hands / person, please limit the amount of WIP per hand!!!

PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY USE OF PAINTINGS WHICH ARE RELIGIOUS IN NATURE IS IN NO WAY AN ENDORSEMENT OF RELIGION OF ANY KIND.

PLEASE NOTE THAT TRACING IS NOT ALLOWED!
Tracing constitutes cheating on CGTalk, and traced work is not accepted into CGTalk's Galleries. Please freehand draw and paint. Use of a Grid is accepted. :)


If you would like to be notified of all new Tutorials / Workshop on the Anatomy Forum, please subscribe here:

Notification of New Open Figure Drawing Workshops (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=379951)

If you would like to see the finished work from previous OFDWs, look here:

Links to all OFDW SPOTLIGHT Threads (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3462029&postcount=1)
(http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=3462029&postcount=1)

Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 07:24 AM
Please Note:

At the end of each OFDW, I create a SPOTLIGHT (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=198&t=347012) thread highlighting the best work from the Workshop.

For this Workshop, I will only be plugging (including in the SPOTLIGHT thread) final images that are accompanied by WIP images - which artists can include as a set in a single post along with their final images (to avoid having multiple posts for a single image). Please also feel free to post a gif of the process for your best pieces.

This will especially be the case in instances where the work matches the reference image rather exactly.

You need not provide WIPs for images where it is obvious that no tracing has been involved, or for simple sketches. The purpose of providing WIP images for your work is to demonstrate transparency of your work process. An accompanying explanation of your work flow can also be helpful.

Frejasphere
04-11-2008, 08:06 AM
Great :)

this looks like a fun workshop, - thanks alot for putting it up!

cheers
a. :)

erilaz
04-11-2008, 08:13 AM
I've just started doing hand studies again, so this is perfect timing. :buttrock:

Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 08:18 AM
Frejasphere and erilaz, I'm going to hold you to your promises. :) I'm likely going to be doing a lot of mine traditionally since that will tie in nicely with my classes. Looking forward to seeing everyone's amazing contributions.

NR43
04-11-2008, 08:51 AM
Timing is perfect!
Count me in as well this time :)

paperclip
04-11-2008, 08:55 AM
Handy timing... (sorry, couldn't resist). I'll do trad studies and scan them in.


See you around. :)

MatthewRodgers
04-11-2008, 09:37 AM
Heya Rebecca!

I'm back, and in for this one! Havn't participated since the 50 heads and 50 torsos workshops waaaay. Moved my attendance over to CA after that as my tastes shifted to more 2D mediums. But have been subscribed to updates on this thread the whole time :P Tis a shame I missed that bargue drawing one though - I've been wanting a good reason to do one of those :(

I'll definitely be back in on this one, and will try and get my flatmate doing it too!

Thanks for organising these things :) Great motivation :)

Matty

SulaMoon
04-11-2008, 09:45 AM
woot, finally! I will start working on it as soon as I wake.

Animegedon
04-11-2008, 10:03 AM
exactly what the doctor ordered. Working on my design thesis now, but final submission is due this Monday, so as son as hat and final exams have cleared up I'll be sure to start drawing and giving a hand to others by means of critique.

Danny-k
04-11-2008, 10:09 AM
this is so exciting! I am studying anatomy and this is just perfect!!
thank you so much rebecca! we love you :D

diginime
04-11-2008, 10:33 AM
wow, the workshop sounds good, i might do it...if i have time..:)

Intervain
04-11-2008, 10:37 AM
I will definitely be watching everyone's progress - no time to participate, alas :sad: Sounds like it's going to be a fruitful workshop - have fun all!

Phrenzy84
04-11-2008, 10:46 AM
this is an awesome contest, hands, feet, elbows, knees are probably some of the hardest and most confusing parts of the body to make.

phoenix1001
04-11-2008, 10:50 AM
This time i will try my best to participate as i have been waiting for this workshop.

xstijn
04-11-2008, 11:12 AM
Sounds really cool, never participated in a workshop so i will tro to participate this time :) I'm not good at drawing at all at the moment, but I have been busy trying to improve my skills so hopefully I will learn a lot from it (even though my entries will probably be crappy :D, but I'll try my best).

sirielle
04-11-2008, 11:45 AM
I can't miss this one! 25 hands, terrifying XD

Balduran
04-11-2008, 12:22 PM
Sweet! I'm quite bussy this month, but i'll try to draw something :D

calan
04-11-2008, 01:15 PM
Oooh, nice topic! I SO need to work on my hands drawing.. hands are quite difficult I think! I really need this practice, so count me in! Yeah! :)

ForzaInter
04-11-2008, 01:16 PM
Been waiting for this next workshop! It's time I practiced drawing hands as I suck at it :blush:

Have fun everybody! :cool:

ceruleanvii
04-11-2008, 02:27 PM
This is going to be a very busy month for me, but I really need practice drawing hands... I'll give it my best shot!

Thanks Rebecca!

RobertoOrtiz
04-11-2008, 02:43 PM
I am in!

-R

metacom
04-11-2008, 03:27 PM
count me in... this will be my first workshop. i'll give it a good try!!

Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 03:45 PM
Hey everybody, great to see your enthusiasm! :) Looking forward to seeing everyone's posts. Also remember that even though this is called the Open Figure "Drawing" Workshop, you are welcome to paint and sculpt traditionally or digitally.

Cheers! :)

Vierluz
04-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Very busy month, but I´ll try to contribute.
count me in

anandpg
04-11-2008, 05:46 PM
I am in!!.. I am in!!.. :bounce:

mv
04-11-2008, 06:28 PM
Cool workshop Rebecca :)
I might participate!

Rist
04-11-2008, 07:53 PM
I would like to join this but I am really busy. I will find some time to join!

DimitrisLiatsos
04-11-2008, 09:08 PM
Don't know if i can go up to 25 hands...but i will give it my best shot...since Hands were always one of my most weekest points...along with boots..:p


Good workshop Rebecca !

SulaMoon
04-11-2008, 09:36 PM
Yay!
Here are my first few quickies. Something between 10-15 minutes each.

http://sulamoon.com/forums/cgt/hands01.jpg

Rebeccak
04-11-2008, 09:39 PM
SulaMoon, Congrats on being the first to post! :) Will wait for more before commenting. I need to get my set started tonight!

Dimi - get that sketchbook out buddy! :p

mv - OMG he lives! ;)

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 01:16 AM
Okay, expect a lot of experimentation from me. Painted up in PS, overlaid with photo textures, from this ref: 43. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9541)

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-01.jpg

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-02.jpg

TheBeatnik2334
04-12-2008, 03:29 AM
Here is my first attempt. I am also pretty new to digital painting, so I encourage everyone to critique the paint job along side the anatomy. I think I'm so familiar with drawing that its hard to wrap my mind around another medium.

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 03:31 AM
TheBeatnik2334, welcome. :) One thing I'd recommend is painting against a mid gray background - anything but glaring white. The white will definitely throw off your values, making them seem more contrasty than need be. Keep working, gradually working dark to light. Keep posting. :)

TheBeatnik2334
04-12-2008, 03:32 AM
Sulamoon, I really like the cleanness of your sketches.

TheBeatnik2334
04-12-2008, 03:35 AM
TheBeatnik2334, welcome. :) One thing I'd recommend is painting against a mid gray background - anything but glaring white. The white will definitely throw off your values, making them seem more contrasty than need be. Keep working, gradually working dark to light. Keep posting. :)

what is the thinking behind working dark to light? I've always thought that dark colors are harder to layer than light colors. I suppose working digitally this isn't as much of a problem, but I was just curious on why working from dark to light was strongly advised. Thanks for the feedback.

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 03:40 AM
what is the thinking behind working dark to light? I've always thought that dark colors are harder to layer than light colors. I suppose working digitally this isn't as much of a problem, but I was just curious on why working from dark to light was strongly advised. Thanks for the feedback.Generally the going thought in both traditional and digital painting is to work large shapes to small shapes (general to specific) and dark to light. Most of us tend to exaggerate the lights, seeing things for whatever reason lighter than they are, and we end up running out of value range, thus flattening out the overall appearance of the image. In traditional painting, it's generally harder to darken a lighter color than it is to lighten a darker color, but in digital you don't really have a physical reason for working dark to light - it's more of a process reason - you want to develop the forms by giving them a full value range - dark to light - and most of us will neglect to put in darks if we don't do it in the initial stages. It's not to say it's the only way to paint :) - but generally speaking, it helps you to develop the forms more gradually, and more fully.

Edit - most of the old masters worked this way, for example this cartoon by Leonardo da Vinci - notice how the drawing is done first, then the lights are being pulled out from a toned background:

http://www.theartwolf.com/imagenestAW/Leonardo_VirginAndChildStAnne.jpg

LadyPurple
04-12-2008, 03:42 AM
Hi to all.. i just wanted to join as well.. :blush: this is my drawing, photoshop + wacom from this reference = 01 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1560)

Thank you for this workshop Rebecca, good work to all :)

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/517/hand1ub6.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand1ub6.jpg)

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 03:48 AM
Welcome LadyPurple, strong work! Nice lines on your drawing.

Post on up people. :)

TheBeatnik2334
04-12-2008, 03:59 AM
Thanks Rebecca, that makes alot of sense now. Here are another two sketches, both drawn with my 2H leadholder, the first shaded with a 2B pencil and the other a messy crosshatch practice with 2H lead.

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk289/TheBeatnik3954/handdrawing2.jpg

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk289/TheBeatnik3954/handdrawing3.jpg

This is my first workshop, and I believe I am following the posting rules. If not, let me know and I will be more than happy to make sure to follow them.

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 04:10 AM
This is my first workshop, and I believe I am following the posting rules. If not, let me know and I will be more than happy to make sure to follow them.You're doing fine. :) Btw, check out the website of Anthony Ryder:

www.tonyryder.com - some great traditional demos on there about how he blocks out form, which I have found extremely useful. I also always recommend his book to everyone with an interest in drawing. :)

calan
04-12-2008, 04:13 AM
First one for me:

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_02.jpg

Did in photoshop, about 40min. Was fun :)

Kirt
04-12-2008, 04:46 AM
Rebecca, I love how you throw down the gauntlet. :p
I'll probably work strictly in Photoshop (as I need to warm up again on the old tablet) but I may get a couple traditional in there if I feel the need.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/kirtstanke/daily%20sketch/hand01.jpg

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 04:50 AM
calan, beautiful! Can't wait to see more. :)

Kirt, that's how I roll. :p Great to see you in this! Great piece, will I see 24 more? :D

Kirt
04-12-2008, 05:09 AM
Kirt, that's how I roll. :p Great to see you in this! Great piece, will I see 24 more? :D24? Maybe. Is it OK to edit my post to add new ones as I complete them? I was going to put like 6 in a single post (x4 = 24). That's the plan anyway. :D

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 05:14 AM
Is it OK to edit my post to add new ones as I complete them? I was going to put like 6 in a single post (x4 = 24). That's the plan anyway. :DNah, just keep posting new posts - otherwise no one will see your new work. :) Plus, half the fun is having your email box fill up with subscriptions. :D

Certainly not perfect, but an experiment in style:

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-03.jpg

Here's a wee bit 'o a gif for the last image:

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-03-giffer.gif

anandpg
04-12-2008, 05:18 AM
Hey!! Great start, everybody!!:thumbsup: here is mine for today..

from Michelangelo's David
(mechanical pencil on sketchbook paper)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7303/ofdw23001th0.jpg

Kirt
04-12-2008, 06:06 AM
Rebecca - OK, you'll get the big images then. That last one of yours is nice. Good shapes through the fingers and knuckles. I didn't care much for the earlier ones because of the heavy texture overlays you're using. Looks like you're trying to hide something there. You shouldn't have to. I've seen your work.

anandpg - Here's another nice one. Good construction lines and build of the shapes.

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 07:18 AM
Kirt, you're right, though I swear I do love textures for textures' sake. ;)

Here's a bit of a start going in the opposite direction, dialed down the textures and am just going for a KISS approach. ;) Obviously very WIP, want to spend more time on this one than the others:

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-04-A.jpg

dtang
04-12-2008, 08:04 AM
Big fan of OFDW! Not sure if I got time to do this, but I haven't touched my wacom for so long it's collecting dust, hope I'm not rusty.

here's my day 1 entry

http://members.shaw.ca/davetang/CGTalk/CGTalk_OFDW023_Hands_01.jpg

HawVer
04-12-2008, 08:21 AM
Hi windroll,

Well it doesn't look rusty at all! It looks more stony.. :P Very nice work, though one little thing, I think the shadows are a little too dark. It makes the middle finger looks weird.

NR43
04-12-2008, 08:30 AM
Great stuff to be seen here already!

Here's my first couple:

1. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1560)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
David [detail]
Marble, 1504
Galleria dell'Accademia, Florence
About 20min, pencil on A4
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/Image0161_resize.JPG

2. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12865)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Madonna and Child
Marble, 1501-1505
Vrouwekerk, Bruges
About 1hr, pencil on A4
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/Image0162_resize.JPG

zhay13
04-12-2008, 08:36 AM
hi to all, nice textures rebeccak. here are my first

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/zhay13/davidmanopost.jpg

Quadart
04-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Great workshop! Great show of hands! Though my hands aren’t idle at the moment, I think I can find some time to draw a few sets of digits soon.
___

what is the thinking behind working dark to light? I've always thought that dark colors are harder to layer than light colors. I suppose working digitally this isn't as much of a problem, but I was just curious on why working from dark to light was strongly advised. Thanks for the feedback.
Along with what Rebecca mentioned, building up an image from dark to light enhances the visual effect of volume and depth, in general.

TheMiyamotoMusashi
04-12-2008, 12:01 PM
Wonderfull entries guys !!! I will join

So i got this first hand by Michelangelo.I will work grayscales,still not going in color.

Anyways i did posterize to the first hand and i see that the leg and the lower arm have greenish tones.The hand has yellowish tones with a bit of reds and blues,but very litle.

- How was that sculpture lighted? I mean is the green and yelow thing on purpose? Because the hand here is of more importance it has warm color and the not so important leg and forearm have greensih tone which is background tone.

teo-disturbed
04-12-2008, 01:22 PM
Hi,
here goes my first entry, done in less time than 2 hours, you know I tried to focus, and think about it like about study not a copy, I used my own hand to feel the bones, so it's a little different than original painting.

Nice entries everybody! :)

21 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9299&hires=1).
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Lorenzo Bartolini
Oil on canvas, 1820
41 5/8 x 33 1/2 inches (106 x 85.1 cm)
Musée du Louvre, Paris
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z34/Mateo-89/OFDW-Hands-Mateo-1.jpg

Frejasphere
04-12-2008, 02:12 PM
Hi all :)

Windroll, Anand, Johan, zhay13 & teo-disturbed - nice start to all; look
forward to seeing more :)

My first sketch:
after William Bouguereau (1825-1905) Le ravissement de Psyche

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page373.jpg
pastel on black paper (30x45cm)

cheers all
a. :)

iuvo
04-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Great studies all - good quality. Looking forward to this workshop.

I jumped right in and rendered without starting with a sketch - It kind of shows:( More sketching next time.

http://www.theisel.dk/iuvo-art/galleri/Anatomy/Pictures/12.jpg

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Great to see everyone's posts! :) Will post comments soon, after my class. There's definitely some good stuff here and it will be exciting to see how people improve over the course of this Workshop. I definitely need the practice! :)

calan
04-12-2008, 03:14 PM
Wow good job everyone!

#2 for me:

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_03_smaller.jpg

with a little animated gif:

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_03_anim.gif

1 hour in Photoshop

Reference 17: Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Louis-François Bertin

I think for my third one im going to do the left hand of the same painting, I like the pose of his fingers.

Keep going everyone! :)

Splinter
04-12-2008, 04:32 PM
I am real excited to join. This is a topic that I could use a lot of help in so C&C is definetly welcome, because I could certainly benifit from it.

Frejasphere: I really like the use of color and texture put into your work.

iuvo: that is an intereest approach, I always stasrt with the sketch and then move on. Your way could be a fun way to begin, I might have to try my "hand" at it with one of my hands.:)

Calan: Nicely rendered

Here is my first hand

Ref#5 Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Lorenzo de' Medici: Dawn

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/Johnc_Ism/OFDW%20Hands/Hand01.jpg

DEVARSHY
04-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Great Idea, Rebecca.
I really really need to practice on Hands , So you can expect a few works from me as well. Have been too busy to even post on CGTalk for months now..... but I guess I really need this now!!!

Get Going, Dude !

SpiritDreamer
04-12-2008, 06:07 PM
APR. 12, 2008

GREAT IDEA for a workshop Rebecca...THANKS :)

I think I will use it to experiment with the IMPASTO oil brushes in the Corel Painter program...will go perfectly with my Rembrant painting technique studies that i'ves been doing lately and posted in my anatomy/sketchbook thread..:)
ANYWAY..Great starts so far, from everyone...:thumbsup:

teo - disturbed/Mathew...Nice one,...I like your way of thinking and approach to the study...:thumbsup:

#48..Rubens portrait of a young woman
Impasto oil brushes..thick clear varnish..depth smear...distorto impasto brushes used...Painter #9
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_F.jpg

FateBringer
04-12-2008, 06:34 PM
hi, great start everyone

my first 2 studies/ sketches
freehand pencil 9x12
ref from the book Michelangelo Drawings, Closer to the Master (http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z194/FateBringersLabyrinth/refstudiesforhaman.jpg) by Hugo Chapman

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z194/FateBringersLabyrinth/hands12.jpg

Mark

sirielle
04-12-2008, 08:30 PM
It took me wayyyy too long O_o I'm quite satisfied with the hand, but definitely not with the time I spent on it. First I used Painter's watercolors, but had to fix it with eraser/airbrushes, to use watercolors again, then had to fix and so on... Had to stop finally, here is my hand #1 after hand from reference #35 Douleur d'amour [Elegy] (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=58&hires=1) by William Bouguereau (1825-1905):


http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/301/hand1on4.jpg

(flipped)

TheBloodyAlien
04-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Hi :D

Thanks Rebecca for this new workshop. I would like to handle some hands getting a little bit more dirt on my hands with that handy program called zbrush; I hope to learn, and get inspiration from u all.

Here's my first. Don't tell me to refine it because I'm really full of this and I'll move to another :D :D

Edit: tell me if it's too big I'll cut it to a single image and post a link to the wip in my sketchbook...

http://3d-wip.org/img/cgtalk/sketchbook/david_hand_wip_final.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-12-2008, 09:40 PM
APR. 12, 2008
Took the one posted above a little bit further.
#48 Rubens portrait of a young woman.
Painter #9..Impasto oil brushes.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_H.jpg

Rebeccak
04-12-2008, 11:00 PM
Good to see stuff rolling in. :)

Now I don't pretend to be a 'teacher' here because I learn from everyone who posts. So these comments are just my opinions, and as such, should be taken with a grain of salt.

SulaMoon, I like the last set of hands the best, maybe play with line variation?

Anand, great stuff, definitely looking forward to more! Wil you be making any 3D contributions? :)

Windroll, that's looking excellent! I'd say though not to be 100% true to the photos colors, since unfortunately the colors are a little washed out in many of the photos / reference images. You will have to tweak to taste. ;)

NR43, the 2nd one is sweet!

zhay13, very nice too, I would say the same thing about the colors - you don't have to be 100% true to the photo, since it's a bit washed out. Nice work!

teo-disturbed, nice work on the shading. I'd suggest maybe refining the linework a bit more? Looking forward to more!

Frejasphere, I like the colors, but I think the values seem a little disorganized? Would love to see you try a medium like Faber Castell Polychromos - they're great because they're light, easily editable / erasable and have a great line quality.

iuvo, very nice!

calan, another beautiful work! Thanks for the gif. :)

Splinter, welcome. Would like to see more shading on the hand, though the outline is good.

Glenn, I'm not super crazy about this style - I'd love to see you get back to more representational works, some of your recent stuff seems more experimentation for experimentation's sake only. I really like that you push yourself to do new things, I think that's fantastic in fact, but I would love to see you rein it in a bit more and go back towards the fundamentals, which I think is lacking in your recent paintings. Just food for thought. :)

FateBringer, nice to see you aboard. Maybe shade a bit more finely?

sirielle, nice!

Agostinuke, great stuff, that's totally fine to make a post like that, it's informative.

LadyPurple
04-12-2008, 11:49 PM
Compliments to all :) this is my second sketch from reference n. 15 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9446)


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8115/hand2nu6.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand2nu6.jpg)

Bye :)

Vale

Rebeccak
04-13-2008, 02:21 AM
From photo reference:

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-05.jpg

Splinter
04-13-2008, 02:43 AM
Thanks for the Welcome Rebeccak. I hope that I can make it all the way through with this OFDW. I could really use the practice on drawing hands. By the the way I really find your work pretty interesting the textures that you put on them make them look like they are really old fresco, Cool Stuff.:D

calan
04-13-2008, 03:49 AM
Rebecca: Thanks! Good to know for the gif, Ill keep doing them. Love your last one, the texture and color palette are great. Very simple and pretty I think.

LadyPurple: Beautiful! And you did all of it.. nice!

SpiritDreamer: Those Impasto oil brushes looks very interesting! Would love to see more definition on the hands :)

Agostinuke: Great model.. cool to see some 3d in the workshop!

sirielle: Well done.. even if your not happy with the time you spent on it. You sure will be faster after this workshop!

FateBringer: Great start! Keep going!

Splinter: Thank you :) Great lines. Agree with Rebecca, would be nice to have some shading :)



Sooo.. Third one for me! I messed up a little be with this one. This hand pose is so weird and the fact that we loose a part between the thumb and the rest of the hand doesnt help the case. Anyway, it was a good pratice and I think thats the point of this workshop right? :P
Maybe Ill get back to it later.. for now thats it!

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_04.jpg

gif version:

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_04_anim.gif

Reference #17 Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Louis-François Bertin


Enough for me today.. will try to do 1 or 2 more tomorrow.

FateBringer
04-13-2008, 04:28 AM
Rebecca Thanks , got lazy hehe, interesting textures your using may have to have a go at it myself

calan thank you , great job on your 3

LadyPurple great work

SpiritDreamer nice start

Agostinuke awesome

last one for today
William Bouguereau 1825-1905
La Charite- her left hand
b/w digital used grid

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z194/FateBringersLabyrinth/LaCharitelefthand.jpg

Mark

embryotic
04-13-2008, 04:46 AM
My first attempt - hmmm I can see these are gonna be difficult...

good luck :)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8663/01handal1.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-13-2008, 04:48 AM
APR. 13, 2008

Rebecca...I like your experiments,whether they be for experimental sake or not..an experiment is an experiment, and is just a road to something new..nothing ventured, nothing gained is the way that I view an experiment..:)

calan...THANKS...I will do the hands in detail next...basically just blocking in at the moment, while experimenting and exploring with the possabilities of these impasto brushes that i'm working with.
Worked on her face and the background..hands next.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_L.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-13-2008, 05:52 AM
APR.13, 2008
A little more work done on this Rubens drawing, while experimenting with REMBRANTS painting technique.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_M.jpg

NR43
04-13-2008, 08:37 AM
anandpg nice one! First of many I hope :buttrock:

zhay13 great job

TheMiyamotoMusashi Just dig in there mate and ask yourself these questions while drawing (best way to find out!)

teo-disturbed nice start, would love to see some hatching from you

Annette great colors! Will do one one black paper as well now I saw yours

iuvo good start. try to make the fingers more "fleshy"

calan nice colors. The fingers seem a bit short though. (fingers are usually roughly the same length as the palm of the hand.

Splinter nice one! push your linework if you can... make the thickness of your lines more varied to accentuate points of interest.

Glenn would love to see you focus on the hands :)

FateBringer/Mark great to see you in on this one! the foreshortening seems a bit off in your first ones.

sirielle lovely colors. The thumb seems very thin to me

LadyPurple Really nice start here. Would love to see you push the values in your next studies to get more form

Rebeccak Thanks for your comments. The last one seems a bit flat (perhaps due to the textures). Would love to see a charcoal hand study from you!

embryotic nice one! more please :)

---

Here's a few warmup sketches, done with Faber-Castell Pitt Artist Brush tip Pens
It shows that using a pen or ink can be quite unforgiving, especially the 2nd one, where I seriously screwed up lol. But one has to keep pushing. I plan to be working on my linework a lot the rest of the year.

3. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12868)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Madonna and Child [detail: 3]
Marble, 1501-1505
Vrouwekerk, Bruges
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/Image0163_resize.JPG

6. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12894)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Lorenzo de' Medici: Lorenzo de' Medici [detail: 1]
Marble, 1524-1531
Sagrestia Nuova, San Lorenzo, Florence
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/Image0164_resize.JPG


Have a lot of studying to do *scratches hair and wonders off*

iuvo
04-13-2008, 09:49 AM
Study of the colours on my own hand in dim morning light. Tried to make them look more fleshy. Only way forward is practise..

http://www.theisel.dk/iuvo-art/galleri/Anatomy/Pictures/hupl.jpg

NR43 - good start, nice organic shapes and good quality brushstrokes. Just keep throwing them out and be mindful of perspective.

SpiritDreamer: always a journey to watch you paint - you never know where you end. will be interesting to see how you approach the hands.

embryotic: Very nice. if you touch it up you could call it a finished piece.

FateBringer - nice proportions on your last one- it would probably look better on a darker background.

looking nice - lots of character in your hands. The third from right finger looks too thick to me.

Rebeccak: Like it, your last picture looks really lumiscent. Your paintings always look like finished illustrations to me :)

Agostinuke: very impressive modeling

sirielle: If it took a long time then it's time worth spent :) you've caught the gesture really well.

anandpg
04-13-2008, 09:53 AM
Great work, everybody!
Will you be making any 3D contributions? :)
Well, I am taking this opportunity to get some much needed drawing practice, but I might throw in a couple of 3d studies as well at the end, if I have time left after the twentyfive 2d ones.. :D

today's hand:
from Michelangelo's "Madonna and Child".
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1055/ofdw23002tp6.jpg

yogip
04-13-2008, 12:47 PM
I'll try and get some hands done, digitally. Still very slow on the wacom - this one took me more than two hours...

http://www.parish.ch/c/cgtalk/080413_OFDW23_Hand01.JPG

michael-olszak
04-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Looking good guys.

aLoneCuzzo
04-13-2008, 04:01 PM
werd count me in... I need to start drawing again :buttrock:

SpiritDreamer
04-13-2008, 04:48 PM
APR. 13, 2008

I got the mood and effect that I am after with this one.Off to the next one..;)
#48..Rubens portrait of a young woman..done in a Rembrant painting sketch style.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_O.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_OFDW_24_P.jpg

Balduran
04-13-2008, 05:10 PM
At least this time i started on time :P

First David's hand:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2530/hand1bh8.jpg
My fingers seem to be thicker than the original (or at least that's what my mom says).
And i don't like how the tumb looks, bad tumb! :D :wip:

PS.
Was there a OFDW on feet? I could use some practice on them.

sirielle
04-13-2008, 05:16 PM
Glenn, the impasto brush effect looks great! I have never used non-digital media to paint (except some watercolor in school time in the previous century ;) ) so I never knew what to do with it. Now I see it can produce really interesting painting I need to give it a try, too. Keep up the good work, I'm curious your experiment results!

Johan, thank you for points. I believe here the little finger is too long and too far from hand, I tried to repaint it but haven't seen it was too far and only changed shading over and over. I'll take a look at the thumb, too. But I will not fix it anymore, treating it as a history now. My first hand anyway :) I like your studies - here and in your sketchbook, a lot of great new stuff there, congratulations! I plan to do at least 5 hands here in pencil and follow your example finally to sketch, sketch and sketch :) So far I've been only talking about it.

Balduran, nice hand!

And yes you are right - feet workshop, please!

LadyPurple
04-13-2008, 05:23 PM
Great work everybody! :thumbsup: thx calan, FateBringer, NR43 for the comments ;)

Let's keep on drawing. This is my third hand from ref n. 2 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12865)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5048/hand3at7.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand3at7.jpg)

SpiritDreamer
04-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Sirielle...That was done digitally...Corel Painter #9 program..Impasto oil brushes in that program were all that I used.

But you should deffenitly try painting in an impasto style using traditional oil paints if you get the chance...just pretend that you are frosting a cake,..but using paint and a brush, palette knife ect..In his middle and later years, Rembrant used to use the palm of his hand, fingers, and all sorts of sharp tools to shape and carve the paint..almost like sculpting with it...In his earlier years, he had more of a polished almosh photo style...but later evolved it into a more expressive personal style through continious experimentation and exploration
You can really see how he worked the paint when you get a close up view of his works.
Glenn

Splinter
04-13-2008, 05:51 PM
Here is my second "hand drawing" attempt

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/Johnc_Ism/OFDW%20Hands/Hand02.jpg

Lady Purple:I really like what you have done so far. I think that if you show a little more detail around the knuckles they can improve a lot more.

Balduran: Great Start

Fate Bringer: You depicted the dynamics of the hands really well, the perspecive looks good, but on the top pose I think the finger tips need to be a little more rounded

Keep em Coming:buttrock:

sirielle
04-13-2008, 06:25 PM
Glenn, thank you for the info and a very plastic description of the way to shape paint :) But I was thinking about Painter, which I use for painting, not traditional media. As for traditional impasto - yes, one day in the future I need to try it, too :)

batte812
04-13-2008, 07:18 PM
Here are my first attempts:


http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6582/battehand43bps9.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4460/battehand44bvr8.jpg

espora
04-13-2008, 07:56 PM
Primer Intento

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2071/2410555291_92a2bc0061.jpg?v=0

TheMiyamotoMusashi
04-13-2008, 08:06 PM
Here the first hand

Great work all, i really had no more time on this, sorry to send this shit :D

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7002/01bs7.jpg

Rebeccak
04-13-2008, 08:07 PM
NR43, like your pencil works more, have you tried ballpoint pen? Those are great for sketching.

iuvo, thanks! I really like the colors in this one. Looking forward to more.

Anand, great stuff, I love seeing you do pencils too!

yogip, this will get easier with practice. One thing I think that helps with the digital painting learning curve is timing yourself - only allow yourself 15 min. at a time to work (feel free to paint in multiple sessions). That really helped me at the beginning in the 15 min sketchathon thread.

Glenn, I understand of course that experimentation is fun and necessary :) - I just would like to see some of your works resolved through paint vs. lighting techniques I guess which I feel don't add as much to the form as does painting the value relationships. Of course, this is only my opinion.

Balduran, try blocking things in with straight lines first - see www.tonyryder.com (http://www.tonyryder.com) and his demo stills to see what I mean. That has really helped me recently in terms of drawing!

LadyPurple, nice work - it's a bit on the whitish side in some of the midtones?

Spinter, better! I think the bkgrd could go even darker, and be more unified.

batte812, good to see you in this. I would refine these a little more. Definitely check out the link above, www.tonyryder.com (http://www.tonyryder.com), and look at how he blocks things in on his demo pages. Angles make complex objects much easier to break down than curves. Try that on the hands, I think you'll really find it useful! (Especially traditionally).

TheMiyamotoMusashi, good to see some work from you. ;) This isn't bad at all, keep practicing and observing value relationships more and more closely.

Keep posting all and refining those works :) - I'll try to have something new up tomorrow.

-R

LadyPurple
04-13-2008, 08:27 PM
Splinter: ok, got it :)

Rebecca: Thank you, and yes, because the background is always white.. i will consider that in next drawings :)

Balduran
04-13-2008, 08:32 PM
Balduran, try blocking things in with straight lines first - see www.tonyryder.com (http://www.tonyryder.com/) and his demo stills to see what I mean. That has really helped me recently in terms of drawing!

Yeah, i've seen it before ;) (Also in a OFDW and also from you xD)
It's just easier for me to make curvy lines from the begininng (On the other hand, i need to try this anyway...)

Miyamoto - The index finger and the middle finger seem to be too far from each other (ie. they were closer on the original)

Rebeccak
04-13-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah, i've seen it before ;) (Also in a OFDW and also from you xD)
It's just easier for me to make curvy lines from the begininng (On the other hand, i need to try this anyway...)Hehe, I'm such a stickler about this because I know it works. :) Check out the >>work<< (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/work-of-my-students-mahanaim-art.html) of some of my young students who are using Ryder (in some instances) as a reference. They all started out with the straight line approach, and while the drawings (particularly the first) weren't completed overnight, they really did find the approach useful for approaching complex subjects. You can also see this technique being employed >>here<< (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/02/irvine-valley-college-spring-2008.html) by college students.

The demo below is something I did for my students, and while for a head and not a hand, the same principles apply. :)

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Traditional-Drawings/Demos/Head_Turned_Progress_Web.jpg

Balduran
04-13-2008, 09:10 PM
Hehe, I'm such a stickler about this because I know it works. :) Check out the >>work<< (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/work-of-my-students-mahanaim-art.html) of some of my young students who are using Ryder (in some instances) as a reference. They all started out with the straight line approach, and while the drawings (particularly the first) weren't completed overnight, they really did find the approach useful for approaching complex subjects. You can also see this technique being employed >>here<< (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/02/irvine-valley-college-spring-2008.html) by college students.

The demo below is something I did for my students, and while for a head and not a hand, the same principles apply. :)





Hmmm.... I got to try that with the next hand ;)

PaulAherne
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Well here's my first contribution. Pencil and paper, took about 2 hours (god I'm slow).http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/ahernep2/01-1.jpg

sketchius
04-13-2008, 11:13 PM
Here's my first couple of sketches. I've been trying to emphasize on visualizing the underlying structure. Also this is a great chance to work on my cross-contour / hatching / line work.

From #25 (Not the hand that is shown in the preview):
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9469/study1hy0.jpg
From #45:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8071/study2wn6.jpg

zhay13
04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
the second from me
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/zhay13/michelbabypost.jpg

Frejasphere
04-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Hi all :)

It's great to see how quickly these workshps fly, hard to keep up with all the posts and the great work being created!

I'd like to comment on all, but will fit in a few for a start - keep it up and keep enjoying!

Johan - great start from you, I don't think you need to scratch your head, the 'unforgivingness' markers and ink can be quite liberating. and yes black paper is fun! I got out the vacuum-cleaner to catch the dust from the soft pastels :D

Mark - Nice to see you back and great start - it's funny how we end up working on the same reference at times.

Glenn - Nice flowing brushstrokes, look forward to see where you take the next one

PaulAherne - Nice work! don't worry about being slow, perhaps you could try a few warm up sketches where you set a time-limit of say 10 min or so (just for fun) and see if that makes a difference to how you approach the longer studies.

Splinter - I think your second hand looks more refined than your first, keep going!

Agostinuke - Nice work! the rendering in your hand makes the skin look so soft and almost transluscent

LadyPurple - Nice work

Calan - nice work on those hands, and agreed; the disappearing parts of his hand makes it hard to do, I think you've managed well.

Embryotic - nice! has an almost impasto feel about it - keep going

Anand - nice sketches, you have captured the sense of 'time' as in her hand looks like it's from another time :)

Yogip - nice hand, 2 hours well spent!

my second
after William Bouguereau - La Charite (left hand)

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page374.jpg
pen on paper

cheers all and take care
a. :)

abeld3dg
04-14-2008, 02:25 AM
hey guys here's my first "hand drawing" i spent it maybe about 2 hours hope i can hold it on !

zhay13: Nice texture!

calan
04-14-2008, 03:54 AM
Aaaargh.. had just finished writing my reply.. comments and everything... and it seams that a lost all of it after hitting the "submit reply" button, and all was gone even when I went back!! arrgh... then sorry for not taking the time to recomment. Well at least. good job everyone and keep drawing hands! :P

---

So thats my #4:

Reference: William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
L'Orage [The Storm]
http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_05.jpg



I will do better next time on the commenting part. :S

SpiritDreamer
04-14-2008, 05:36 AM
APR. 14, 2008

Rebecca...I value all opions ..A couple of other opions on the suject of painting, that I value..;)

Master painters throughout the years have said they never paint any subject except light. No matter what objects or figures are in the composition, the funtion of those objects or figures is only to provide contours for the light to fall upon.

Rembrant's artistic development can be gauged in the way he has moved away from the precise rendering of descriptive details in every part of the picture toward psychological and emotional emphasis by means of lighting, color contrast, and varied brushwork.
From...History and Techniques of the GREAT MASTERS.

Annette...THANK YOU.:) .The brushwork, and how it can represent. form is my main concern at the moment, while experimenting with those impasto brushes, along with lighting of course.

Two more from me..My own hand...conte crayon on newsprint paper.
Next I am going to see what the impasto oil brushes can do to a conte crayon drawing, once it has been hit with some light and color, as in the second one posted,..using the second one posted.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Pastel_hands2.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Pastel_hands_2.jpg

Rebeccak
04-14-2008, 05:59 AM
Aaaargh.. had just finished writing my reply.. comments and everything... and it seams that a lost all of it after hitting the "submit reply" button, and all was gone even when I went back!! arrghcalan, I tend to write comments in Notepad first, then copy and paste them into the reply box. I used to experience this a lot, where I'd lose a long set of comments, so ever since that happened, before I post any reply, I select all of my text and copy it (just Ctrl + C) it so that it's on my computer's clipboard in case the forum fubars and I lose my text. I know the feeling. :D Ever since I've started to do that, I've never had a problem, since I always have a backup of my post text.

Great piece btw. :) More comments later.

Edit - btw, for those of you following the Workshop, be sure to subscribe to the thread as the plug will shortly go off of the front page.

metacom
04-14-2008, 06:22 AM
heres my first sketch... not finished with it, but i dont want to spend some of tomorrow since i need to catch up!! everyones work is very inspiring!! keep it up!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/metacom/drawingforum/hand1.jpg

zhay13
04-14-2008, 08:07 AM
Sorry rebeccak, i get carry away with the great bernini, so i made the full piece, i hope you don`t mind, so the 3rd hands sketchhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/zhay13/bernnininiirap.jpg

Rebeccak
04-14-2008, 08:10 AM
zhay13, haha, get carried away all you want. :) It's great to see your enthusiasm! Love the work. Some good pieces really starting to come in.

embryotic
04-14-2008, 08:50 AM
Wow Zhay, If I painted something like that id be quite proud of myself well done :) the light 'quality' just feels real to me, especially on the mans hand and beard, and the rim on the ladies knee - looks great.

Calan thats beautiful - the skin looks so soft and still the nails look hard

Frejasphere - thanks, your no27, the little finger looks a little long and maybe the angle is a little different - but the width feels right - I haven't looked at Bouguereau before - beautiful!

PaulAherne - well done - I think you nailed it :)

no2 (even harder than the first T.T) :

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2586/02handco4.jpg

Frejasphere
04-14-2008, 09:40 AM
Zhay - nice work :) the lighting is lovely.

embryotic - thanks for your comments, I agree with that finger being too long...
nice work on your no:2; maybe a little too smudged on index and middle finger? I like
the shading on the top of the hand, and those soft white brushstrokes give a nice sense of movement - keep it up :)

metacom - nice lines in yours - look forward to seeing more!

Glenn - nice! guessing you are left-handed? :)

Calan - nice work on yours, and yes it's annoying when the post gets eaten up in cyberworld...


A quick sketch in Photoshop for my third
After William Bouguereau - Jeune Fille si defendant contre lamour
(the little "amour-cherub's" hand)

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page375.jpg


cheers all and take care
a. :)

SpiritDreamer
04-14-2008, 12:00 PM
APR. 14, 2008

NICE ONE ..Annette...:thumbsup: ....and yes I am deffenitly left handed..:eek: :scream:

Alot of great studies happening in this workshop, by everyone I think.
VERY INSPIRING :thumbsup:

Worked on the hand on the right this morning...Impasto oil brushes, Painter #9
Refference...my hand.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Pastel_hands_6.jpg

anandpg
04-14-2008, 01:49 PM
Great updates, everybody!! :bounce:

Here is hand #3 from me:

Gian Lorenzo Bernini's
Memorial Bust of Gabriele Fonseca

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3217/ofdw23003pa8.jpg

Frejasphere
04-14-2008, 03:18 PM
Nice Anand :) I like the linework!

#4 from me

I decided to rework the hand from La charite in pastel
(I often like doing several versions from one ref, there's always
more to see... and using a different medium can sometimes be
interesting)

after William Bouguereau - La Charite
(her left hand)

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page376.jpg
soft pastel on black paper (A3)


cheers all and take care
a. :)

retardedmonkey
04-14-2008, 03:39 PM
Oh man everything in here is just awesome! Hopefully some of the skill in here will rub off on me...I need some. :D

I wasn't going to post because I'm no where near where you guys are...but I figured it would be better to suck it up, post and get some help. Hopefully as I do more they will get better.

This is after #21 Ingres...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/slinkysmeagol/21.jpg

Balduran
04-14-2008, 04:30 PM
Let's just hope the next hand will be easier


http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8369/hand1001sa1.jpg (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8369/hand1001sa1.jpg)

MiguelS
04-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Great hands so far.
I really liked yours anandpg, great job on those clean yet sketchy lines.

Here is my first try, I was trying to use little time, but then I started taking more and more time, oh well.

A bit more than 40 mins.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/Wildmiguel/Mo1-Michelangelo-David.jpg

Rebeccak
04-14-2008, 05:05 PM
Hey folks, keep it coming! :) Good to see new people hop in, and regulars come back to participate. Please continue to comment others' work, and don't feel as though everything you say must be 'great' 'good' etc. Constructive criticism is encouraged here, so long as it is done with the intention of helping your fellow artists. :)

Edit - have classes all day and won't have a chance to comment individually til tomorrow, but please don't feel overlooked if you've posted here, I check every post. :arteest:

retardedmonkey
04-14-2008, 06:38 PM
Had to much fun doing the first one, so heres another! I tried to loosen up a little more as I drew this one.

William Bouguereau
Flagellation de Notre Seigneur Jésus Christ

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/slinkysmeagol/pix.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-14-2008, 07:50 PM
APR. 14, 2008

MiguelS...I wouldn't worry about time while doing these, in fact, throw the clock out of the window..just kidding..:scream: But seriously, that's where time belongs when your really learning how to SEE, and not just LOOK.
I think on yours, you might concentrate on the shadow area of the second finger,..make a contour line in the shadow, to give a sense that the finger is round in that area..Your shadow areas are just as important as the lighted surfaces, if not moreso..Really go into those shadows and carve them out,..studying the darkest area of the shadow, and working your way to the lightest area of the shadow..This will really add depth to your drawing.
Also really take a close look at where the thumb meets the first finger, and study the way the two forms intertwine or lace together, creating folds of skin which decribe the underlying muscles..Use your own hand to see what is taking place in the model that your doing the study of.
Touch and feel the muscles and bones in your own hand. It's very helpful and important to the understanding of what is taking place, and it is also free...;)
ANYWAY. keep going, ..your doing great..:thumbsup:

A little work done this afternoon on the hand on the left.
Impasto oil brushes Painter #9..refference,..my own hand.
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/Pastel_hands_8.jpg

PaulAherne
04-14-2008, 07:59 PM
Ok here’s my second hand, number 28 on the list.



First off, I’ve only recently (since January) really started to take drawing seriously again and try to practise as much as I can. Drawing was something which I was always pretty good at but when it comes to painting I suck. And I mean suck.



This is literally the first thing I’ve painted with my wacom which I got last week.

I ain’t gonna lie, I used the eye dropper tool for all of this. I learned quite a lot from just doing this small study though. The next hand I’m not gonna use the eyedropper tool regardless of how crap it ends up looking :p



Anyway, this took about an hour.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/ahernep2/02.jpg

PaulAherne
04-14-2008, 08:06 PM
Zhay13: I really like the last one there. Even though it’s more of a full figure study :p Can I ask how much time you spent on it?

Anandpg: really nice expressive linework in your 3rd hand.

tizianoadmirer
04-14-2008, 08:54 PM
Here's my Nr.1.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4275/h1qa1.jpg
-TA

LadyPurple
04-14-2008, 10:47 PM
Beautiful works guys!

This is my hand number 4 from ref 7 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12927)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6026/hand4rx3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand4rx3.jpg)

Bye :)

yogip
04-14-2008, 11:23 PM
RebeccaK, thank you very much for your advice. I tried to break the drawing down into portions of 15 minutes per "detail" stage. This already helped me a lot to structure my work processes.

I am very amazed by many of these extremely beautiful hand paintings here. I think that me as a beginner can benefit a lot from these animated GIF WIPs. So, if you have one, please post it. They are extremely helpful to study!


Here is Hand #2 from the list. I found it extremely difficult to do - I am not quite sure why, but I had to start over three times to get it more correct.

http://www.parish.ch/c/cgtalk/080414_OFDW23_Hands02.JPG

TheBloodyAlien
04-15-2008, 12:14 AM
Rebecca, thanks lol why are you faking destruction on your paintings? mmm...something is going on here :D

Windroll, Zhay, Embryotic, Yogip, PaulAherne, Nr43, Miguels, Tiziano...nice rendering of the david marble hand. Embryotic the second flipped hand, wow cool marble efffects..Zhay, the baby of Bruges, perfect hands and body but it's a pity for the head..just a little bit off, if u adjust it then it's perfect...
Balduran, lol if you don't like the thumb than erase or paint over a better one :D trust your feelings I never trust them and now I'm in the s..t
Espora, nice hammered-hand technique
Myamoto, that's not shit. That's david's hand.
thank to: Calan (cool), Fatebringer (cool tones, pity for the finger tip), Frejasphere great one the n.4 soft pastel on black paper.
Retardedmonkey destroyer of stuff, :) proportions: shouldn't it be a little bit more elongated vertically and narrow horizontally?
Ladypurple nice studies
Tizianno I didn't know at all that there was a Venezia in France too.

http://3d-wip.org/img/cgtalk/sketchbook/madonna_bruges_final.jpg

LGM
04-15-2008, 02:36 AM
I started teaching myself to draw around last Christmas-time. I'm pretty excited about this workshop and I hope I can learn a lot from it. I started by sketching two hands on paper using different techniques to get the proportions. The first hand (#21) was done by a method from "Learning to Draw on the Right Side of the Brain" and the second hand (#42) was done by a method that a friend taught me. "Triangulation" I think it's called. Anyway, I found that the second method seemed to work a lot better and faster.

http://nathandunlap.animadillo.com/images/misc/ND_hands_21.jpg
http://nathandunlap.animadillo.com/images/misc/ND_hands_42.jpg



I understand this is supposed to be a group critique, but I am so new to drawing that I don't feel able to comment on any of the drawings. Out of my league, so to speak. So hopefully people will forgive me for my silence in that respect.

Thanks,
-Nathan

GreenDuckie
04-15-2008, 02:59 AM
Oh man. I'm excited. I suck hardcore at drawing good hands so this will be a wonderful workshop for me! Ok. I lied. I don't suck hardcore, but i'm not that great at them. They're really difficult for me so this will be great practice! Thank you so much for putting this workshop up! :)

peace

RockstarKate
04-15-2008, 03:12 AM
Well, I don't know if I'll make it to 25 but I will try! Hope no one minds some Illustrator. I was in the mood for vectors. Will probably switch mediums multiple times.

used this reference:
29. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=23&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Le Ravissement de Psyche [The Rapture of Psyche]



http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/Le_ravissement_de_Psyche_KL.jpg

By the way, is it 25 hands or 25 drawings? :)

Quadart
04-15-2008, 03:19 AM
There’s some good stuff in here. I can’t believe the amount and stylistic variety of studies accumulated in such a short time in this workshop.
Here’s one from me, a sketch in Photoshop of one of the to subjects from reference #35:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/bill_77/35b.jpg

Quadart
04-15-2008, 03:54 AM
…and one more from ref #35:

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc156/bill_77/35a.jpg

Kirt
04-15-2008, 04:10 AM
Alright, I have worked on this one longer than I care to and it's not improving ... so here it is. :D

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/kirtstanke/daily%20sketch/hand02.jpg

GreenDuckie
04-15-2008, 04:14 AM
Mmkay. So here's my first one. I used my own hand as a refrence for this. I proped it up on my leg and drew it. The pointer finger is a lttle small and I probably could have gone more dramatic on my shading but I'm pretty satisfied with this one. :)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i242/jeuxdeau/Hand1SMALL.jpg

sketchius
04-15-2008, 04:32 AM
Quick hand study from life drawing class:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7794/study4ac0.jpg
#14:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2046/study3pi9.jpg

Agnaldo
04-15-2008, 04:49 AM
Yep. I´d arrive in time for this one...

In a long, long time ago I was drawing like mad... but... life can be so real sometimes and I hardly have mood to sketch. : (
Anyway. That Workshop fit´s perfectly now. Good chance to restart my brain and keep the anatomy studies running.

And it´s nice to see some mates of the Sketchbook thread. :)

My first attempt to this Workshop are the plates #1 (pencil) and #4 (pixel).

http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_01_bylamp.jpg?w=72&h=96 (http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_01_bylamp.jpg) http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_04_bylamp.jpg?w=128 (http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_04_bylamp.jpg)

And the two drawings below aren´t counting for the Workshop. I did just to study a little more of the gorgeous hands drawed by the George B. Bridgman.

http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_extra1_bylamp.jpg?w=128 (http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_extra1_bylamp.jpg) http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_extra2_bylamp.jpg?w=72&h=96 (http://amonsteria.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cgtalkhand_extra2_bylamp.jpg)

jaya6v
04-15-2008, 07:10 AM
hi
this is an awesome workshop. we can learn a lot from here. i am so glad to participate here.
here is my contribution. i used MAYA to create this. cheers
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff100/jaya6v/hand.jpg

xstijn
04-15-2008, 07:39 AM
I'm a bit afraid to post it here lol :scream: but well we're all learning and we have to start somewhere. Its number 21:

21. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9299&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Lorenzo Bartolini
Oil on canvas, 1820
41 5/8 x 33 1/2 inches (106 x 85.1 cm)
Musée du Louvre, Paris

I can really see a lot mistakes already and things i can improve (proportions, shading, on and on...) but I thought I'd call it a day. Still, I had much fun and already learned a bit more about the hand anatomy, and that's what's the point of this workshop isn't it?

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6942/cgsocietyhandworkshopmh9.png

SpiritDreamer
04-15-2008, 09:06 AM
APR. 15, 2008
DELETED POST

Rebeccak
04-15-2008, 09:20 AM
Hey folks, good to see stuff rolling in.

Just a couple of reminders -

1.) Please limit the SIZE of your POSTS to 800 pixels WIDTH x Appropriate pixel LENGTH. No huge posts, please!

2.) Please limit your WIP images per hand since the Workshop calls for 25 hands / person. Please only post one (maximum 2) WIP posts per hand since there will just be too much WIP here if everyone posts more than that per hand. This is as a courtesy to participants who are subscribed here. Please feel free to post additional WIP images to your Personal Anatomy or Sketchbook thread, but I'd like to keep the WIP to a manageable size here since it just becomes overwhelming in terms of volume otherwise. Post ONLY your best work here per each hand, and a gif or step by step process image (in ONE post) is always welcome and appreciated!

Thanks. :)

NR43
04-15-2008, 09:21 AM
Lovely work y'all
More please! :drool:

Here's one I did in Painter IX.5, using a modified Oil pastel brush and the "just add water" blender. Colors may be off because I had it on my 2nd monitor, which isn't calibrated.

30. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=52&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Flagellation de Notre Seigneur Jésus Christ [The Flagellation of Our Lord Jesus Christ]
Oil on canvas, 1880
121 5/8 x 83 3/8 inches (309 x 212 cm)
Cathedral of La Rochelle, La Rochelle


This painting is amazing and has a lot of beautiful hands. It's my first, but surely not the last hand I'm studying from this ref.

http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/ofdw23_hand_opt.gif

edit: forgot to mention... I count only 4 fingers on this hand (also in the original) and still it seems to look correct... I wonder where the 5th finger went to, haven't figured that out yet... (I thought maybe the pointing finger is totally hidden, but I just can't get peace with that thought).

SpiritDreamer
04-15-2008, 10:04 AM
HEY ..Rebecca...I've been posting wips in here,..wasn't thinking about the numbers..never entered my mind..SORRY..:eek:
Should I go back and edit the wips out, and just leave the last finished ones posted,...or you can if you want to,..your better at it than me...also, are my pictures to big..let me know..:)
Glenn

embryotic
04-15-2008, 10:15 AM
#20, I know... I should have concentrated on the hand more, but the painting was so nice - I got lost and spent too long


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6521/03handzn3.jpg

ratheesh300
04-15-2008, 10:30 AM
hai it sounds very interesting. its not only an inspirational journey to look at the contributions but this workshop also would certainly help us learn a lot and get us back in shape. sorry to trouble rebeccak but a small clarrification the contribution should be limited to 25 different sketches or the process of a single study? all the best to all and here is my sketch using painter.. http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9245/shakecy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1856/abdominalpaincopymb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Frejasphere
04-15-2008, 12:46 PM
:) Johan

You got me staring at the original for ages trying to work out the missing finger :D
Yes... the index finger is behind the thumb, and you can sort of 'imagine' it there in the shadow between the thumb and the middle finger. I think you're very close to capturing that hand, strangeness and all ;)

a. :)

monicaitt
04-15-2008, 01:53 PM
i will be working on
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
David [detail]
Marble, 1504
Galleria dell'Accademia, Florenceokay,
so here's what i have so far.......

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4075/handofdwwr9.jpg

SaphireS
04-15-2008, 02:20 PM
Finally someone forces me to draw hands.:)
Heres me first one. Not very accurate, but since it's the first out of 25 that's ok I guess.
I had no pictures available, so I just looked at my left hand as reference.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1055/handofdw1mp1.png

dtang
04-15-2008, 02:26 PM
trying to catch up, didn't check for 2 days and it's already 10+ pages...

HawVer: ha, nice pun. Thanks. I agree, the shadow is a little too dark.

Rebeccak: Thanks! I do tweak to my own taste :cool:

Here're the make up ones I've missed. Busy with work, so I had to spend less time on it. it's day 4 right?

Day 02
http://members.shaw.ca/davetang/CGTalk/CGTalk_OFDW023_Hands_02.jpg

Day 03
http://members.shaw.ca/davetang/CGTalk/CGTalk_OFDW023_Hands_03.jpg

Day 04
http://members.shaw.ca/davetang/CGTalk/CGTalk_OFDW023_Hands_04.jpg

EDIT: fixed link.

NoirQ
04-15-2008, 04:24 PM
I haven't got a scanner, and my drawings blow, so I did one in Zbrush. Was going well, then it didn't, then I got annoyed. i'm going to move on now, and start another one, as this one is starting to irritate me. (based on #34 btw) Good work everyone, I'm not experienced enough to crit anything, but am enjoying everyones progress.
http://www.noirq.com/Images/Hand/I_34_WIP1.jpg

Balduran
04-15-2008, 04:56 PM
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/249/hand1002ib4.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand1002ib4.jpg]http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/249/hand1002ib4.th.jpg)
Sort of final i guess....




Ok, the second one was harder, partially to the fact that i made the drawing a _lot_ smaller to save some space.
I hope the proportions are all right :/
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1109/hand2001lo2.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1109/hand2001lo2.jpg)


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anandpg
04-15-2008, 05:04 PM
hand #4
after Bernini
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/417/ofdw23004fr9.jpg

Art2
04-15-2008, 06:43 PM
Very inspiring work in this workshop.
It's really great to see not only 2d but also 3d works.

Here's my first hand.
Just line art in Artrage2, but hopefully I will have time to do a colored sketch later on.

http://www.marlonart.nl/web/hand01.jpg

Rebeccak
04-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Wow, great to see all the entries coming in! Love seeing the mix of 2D and 3D here. Keep it up everyone.

Glenn, no worries! :) It's a general reminder for all.

anandpg
04-15-2008, 07:31 PM
One more hand for tonight!! :bounce:

William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Douleur d'amour
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5951/ofdw23005yc1.jpg

Balduran
04-15-2008, 07:46 PM
Oh, right, i forgot to mention:
Rebbeca - That blocky, straight line aproach helped (forgot the name), thanks :)

Rebeccak
04-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Oh, right, i forgot to mention:
Rebbeca - That blocky, straight line aproach helped (forgot the name), thanks :)You're welcome. :) That approach has helped me as well - it's certainly nothing new, but I was introduced to it by Ryder's book. If you are interested in seeing how you might apply this approach to a more complex area of the body, such as the torso, there are WIP posts of a block in approach to a Hogarth copy (for demo purposes) here:

http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/torso-demo-wip-2.html

PaulAherne
04-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Here's hand #3 from me which took me about 40 minutes.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/ahernep2/03-1.jpg

35
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Douleur d'amour [Elegy]
Oil on canvas, 1899
Private collection

I just couldn't resist using the colour picker :(

Rebeccak, can I ask you for your opinion? Since I've only just started to try and become a better painter and basically have done very little colour studies would you think it's a good idea to practice colour studies on something less difficult than human skin? Like the classic bowl of fruit still life?

I think I'll keep the rest of the hand studies I do for this workshop monochromatic.

Or am I just chickening out? :p

Rebeccak
04-15-2008, 09:03 PM
Here's hand #3 from me which took me about 40 minutes.
I just couldn't resist using the colour picker :(

Rebeccak, can I ask you for your opinion? Since I've only just started to try and become a better painter and basically have done very little colour studies would you think it's a good idea to practice colour studies on something less difficult than human skin? Like the classic bowl of fruit still life?

I think I'll keep the rest of the hand studies I do for this workshop monochromatic.

Or am I just chickening out? :pI think you're doing fine, but I'd try not using the color picker, as you'll just get addicted to it. :) Maybe try some grayscale studies first? Alternately, I'd just check out calan's very nice gifs - note how she's using only about 3-4 values. Try the HSB slider in PS (Hue Saturation Brightness) which will allow you to choose variants of hues and saturation easily - make swatches of just a few hues in lighter and darker shades, and use the eye dropper off of your swatches by pressing alt while in brush mode and selecting the color from your swatches. Keep going, good stuff so far. :)

PaulAherne
04-15-2008, 09:15 PM
Thanks Rebecca!

PaulAherne
04-15-2008, 09:36 PM
*double post*

paintdabs
04-15-2008, 10:11 PM
Yikes, lots of wonderful hand studies already posted. Taking baby steps - my goal is to learn some hand structure as best as possible with drawing studies. In addition to studying all the postings here with Rebecca's comments, am also using an old Loomis "Drawing the Heads and Hands" book for basic guidance. As he and people here have stated you have literally your own hands to use as live models(!). So I hope to take that leap.

Main points am trying to remember: the palm is cuplike; the front of hand is convex; the muscle of thumb is the largest in the hand; the hand itself is very pliable. And I try to suppress that little voice in back saying "hands are hard to draw!!!" --

TheBloodyAlien
04-16-2008, 12:47 AM
nice, RockstarKate...

Quadart, u drew that flipped or did u flip it later? ...cool drawings!

Kirt super!

Agnaldo keep on doing that forever that's the door to the true reality I know what u talking about

jaya6v I think you've nailed the hand quite a little bit

Stijn, u have a good hand there buddy

nr43 great one

NoirQ. no it looks really good.

Art2 and Anand :D the arm is a little bit bigger in the original...o maybe it's me that is late I dont know


another study from me:
http://3d-wip.org//img/cgtalk/sketchbook/madonna_bruges_baby_.jpg

Anand, if I may ask, sometimes it happens to me that lazy mouse is giving me only really short, point strokes, instead of long, fluid ones, did u also find something like this? (I have the linear stroke type selected...) thx

Quadart
04-16-2008, 01:41 AM
Quadart, u drew that flipped or did u flip it later? ...cool drawings!

Thanks. I didn't realize I forgot to flip Cupid back. I occasionally flip the source file and the art file to get a fresh eye while working so I don’t stray too much from the source image that I’m observing, like using a mirror when working traditionally.

LadyPurple
04-16-2008, 02:00 AM
Hi guys, this is my sketch n. five from reference 6 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12894)
( Thank you Freajesphere and Agostinuke ;) )

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5199/hand5fl0.th.jpg (http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand5fl0.jpg)

Keep going! :thumbsup:

calan
04-16-2008, 03:06 AM
Wooah so many posts since my last one.. will try to catch up on the comments... hope it can help, but dont take these too seriously, if you think Im wrong with what I say please do tell me or dont pay attention to it. :)

Agostinuke - Cool to see some 3d again. Great study.

paintdabs - nice sketches, love to see those "construction" lines

Rebecca - I am currently typing this in a WordPad, will copy on the reply page when I will be finished with it. This will never happen again, Ive learn my lesson :P Thanks for the nice words about my gifs again! ... so where are your studies, havent seen any since a couple days no?!? :)

PaulAherne - Nice one. There is just a little something with the small finger.. I think compare to the original its just because yours is going a little too far from the rest of the hand. About the colour picker I would also suggest trying not to use it.. at first it can be hard but youll get used to it faster than you think. Just try it!

anandpg - loove your sketches and those curvy shadow lines. Simple yet very effective!

Art2 - nice clean outlines... maybe the hand is a little bit too slim or too long. How is it to work with Artrage? I always wanted to try it!

Balduran - Proportions seams ok to me.. its just those last 2 fingers who should start before the others I think, they seam to start almost at the same place on yours.. I am sorry I do have some problems in english when it comes to express myself appart from usual talk :P Well hope you understand. There is also a good demarcation between the thumb and the hand that is absent on your drawing.. adding that would help too!

NoirQ - Looks good! Keep going!

Windroll - Nice studies! Love especially the day 02 and 03

Saphires - Good start! The thumb seams a little twisted or something.. but still great start. Love the shading.

Monica - Thats good! Would be great with some shading :)

ratheesh300 - Wow! very nice.. nothing to say

embryotic - I really like this. Love that you did more than just the hand though :P

NR43 - Very good I think!

xstijn - where you see mistakes and things to improve I see still a very nice drawing! Keep going!

jaya6v - Good one.. would love to see that hand in a nice pose!

Agnaldo - Oh thats great, lots of different style! Very interesting

bdh-art - simple beautiful hand studies :)

GreenDuckie - Thats good!

Kirt - Oooh I really love it. Very soft and delicate... beauuutiful!

Quadart - Superb.. really like the little kid :)

RockstarKate - Thats cool, interesting style! 25, you can do it!


ooooh sorry Im gonna have to stop here, otherwise It will take the entire night :P

Want some time left to draw! :D

calan
04-16-2008, 03:10 AM
My #5 study (which is trully my the #1, had started it at my job first but only finished it today)

Reference # 33 : William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Petite boudeuse [The little sulk]

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_01.jpg

Keep studying hands! :)

GreenDuckie
04-16-2008, 04:23 AM
Calan: Wow, great job at commenting to everyone. That takes dedication. haah. And thank you very much for the nice comment about my hand. :)

Kirt
04-16-2008, 04:27 AM
RockstarKate's vector gave me inspiration for this one. Done completely with lasso and fill in Photoshop. The head turned out kinda mishapen and odd, but I'm pretty happy with the hand.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/kirtstanke/daily%20sketch/hand03.jpg

calan
04-16-2008, 04:33 AM
Kirt! Wow, that is so cool! I love how it turns out on the bracelet too. Great job!!

metacom
04-16-2008, 05:05 AM
i wanted to get in this workshop because hands are the hardest for me for some reason. it helps a great deal to see how everyone goes about their line work. cant help but to stare at alot of these posts!! im going to try and put out 2 by tomorrow...wish me luck, and keep on coming with the art!!
5. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=12896)
Michelangelo (1475-1564)
Tomb of Lorenzo de' Medici: Dawn [detail: 1]
Marble, 1524-1531
Sagrestia Nuova, San Lorenzo, Florence
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c369/metacom/drawingforum/hand2.jpg

calan
04-16-2008, 05:14 AM
Nice one metacom! Wish you luck but Im sure you can do it anyway!

---

Here is a WIP of my #6

Reference #31 (right hand of Christ) : William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Pietà


http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_06_WIP.jpg

My bed is calling me now...

Balduran
04-16-2008, 06:07 AM
Balduran - Proportions seams ok to me.. its just those last 2 fingers who should start before the others I think, they seam to start almost at the same place on yours.. I am sorry I do have some problems in english when it comes to express myself appart from usual talk :P Well hope you understand. There is also a good demarcation between the thumb and the hand that is absent on your drawing.. adding that would help too!

Don't worry, i have problem expressing myself even in my own language xD

Well, they ARE starting from the same place.
Wait a second... Oh my, they shouldn't! :surprised Funny, i never really noticed that, thanks! ;)

muttonman222
04-16-2008, 06:21 AM
my start

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/muttonman222/Hand1_CGsociety.gif

Digging everyone's work.

ratheesh300
04-16-2008, 10:40 AM
hai calan, nice study and pallette. :thumbsup:

LadyPurple
04-16-2008, 10:57 AM
Very good job guys! :thumbsup: Calan love your hand :)

SpiritDreamer
04-16-2008, 01:13 PM
APR. 16, 2008

#3 finished.:) ...RUBENS #46
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/SECOND_RUBENS_HAND_STUDY_17.jpg

RockstarKate
04-16-2008, 01:16 PM
RockstarKate's vector gave me inspiration for this one. Done completely with lasso and fill in Photoshop. The head turned out kinda mishapen and odd, but I'm pretty happy with the hand.



Ooh, I'm glad I could inspire you :) Very nice work. I use Illustrator constantly and it is a joy to finally use it for something where I can turn Smart Guides OFF! Usually it's all about perfect alignment. The lasso tool is an interesting way to achieve that look. I like that it leaves you with all corners. I did mine with the pen tool and a little color correction in Photoshop.

calan
04-16-2008, 01:33 PM
Balduran - Glad if I helped :)

ratheesh300 and LadyPurple - Thanks!!

SpiritDreamer - Great one. Love those brush strokes.

teo-disturbed
04-16-2008, 05:06 PM
Hi,
nice entries people :) here is next 2 from me, this is from Bouguereau Flagellation of Our Lord Christ

Not happy with the final result, 'cause I wanted to make it lighter and much cleaner... Hope next time I will do it better...

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z34/Mateo-89/Mateo-BouguereauHands.jpg

Rebeccak
04-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Hey everyone, keep it coming. :) Interesting to see the variety here.

Kirt, that's a cool experiment, I don't generally think of Bouguereau in terms of vectors. :D Finally going to have time later this afternoon for some hands, maybe even more hands tomorrow, woo! :)

Kirt
04-16-2008, 06:18 PM
Kirt, that's a cool experiment, I don't generally think of Bouguereau in terms of vectors. :D
I didn't either ... that's the work of Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres. :D

LadyPurple
04-16-2008, 07:13 PM
SpiritDreamer, strong work! :)

Ok, this is #6 from me, reference 12 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1881)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6412/hand6cg8.th.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hand6cg8.jpg)

Bye :)

Vale

prettyh8machine
04-16-2008, 08:05 PM
Hi All,

This is my first post in this section. I've been lurking around for a while and follow this section very much, primarily cuz I'm not an artist and regret having no artistic skills. This is my first ever sketch using a tablet and since I don't have any sort of art background n since I hardly draw, this has come out rather sucky. Nevertheless, I like the spirit of people here so to keep that, I'm posting my work as well. I had a hard time using the default brush for photoshop and I've used it much like a pencil because that's the only thing I can draw with.

Enjoy :)

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll209/bilalalib/hands_prev.jpg

Edit: Reference #1 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1560) of course.

xstijn
04-16-2008, 08:12 PM
Another one from me, taking it slow :) one at a time.

25. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=7124&hires=1)
Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Study for The Martyrdom of St. Symphorien
Oil on canvas, 1824-1834
Musée Ingres, Montauban

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5048/cgsocietyhandworkshop2it2.png

Balduran
04-16-2008, 09:02 PM
prettyh8machine (http://forums.cgsociety.org/member.php?u=63929) vbmenu_register("postmenu_5091839", true); - Maybe you don't have skills, but you sure seem to have talent :)

thymia
04-17-2008, 12:05 AM
Oh my, excited and nervous. I've been lurking in the OFDWs for a while now trying to muster up the courage to start posting. I'll be really busy (APs at the beginning of May!) but I'm going to see if I can do this thing.

Quick background info for context: I'm pretty new to digital painting and have only painted in general for a year or two now. Most of what I did before was pencil sketches and Anime style drawing. I only really started using color (instead of painting in monotone or using black for shading) starting in February I think.


First WIP:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a264/evolutia2001/Jason_and_medea_FR_AZ1.jpg

ref: 45. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=841)
John William Waterhouse (1849-1917)
Jason and Medea
Oil on canvas, 1907
Private collection

I found a couple of problems with the relative sizes and stuff by overlaying the images in photoshop, and haven't a chance to go about correcting those yet. Also discovered that the colors aren't pink enough. Painting with oils in ArtRage 2 trial version. I'm finding it really hard to blend in it, but it still feels more natural to me than photoshop does.



By the way, should I be trying to copy exactly or can I use more dramatic coloring? I noticed that a lot of the refs work better for drafting with pencil than my style of weird-color digital painting.

Crits/comments please!

Rebeccak
04-17-2008, 01:48 AM
Just a quick note to subscribe here since the Workshop will shortly go off the front page. :)

Kirt
04-17-2008, 03:12 AM
Another experimental piece from me. This one was done with Photoshop hard round brushes. All solid colors with no variations of opacity. I actually like the lower hand here. More definition to the knuckles with fewer brush strokes. I did this hand last, so I guess I got a groove going on just as I was finishing. Go figure. :shrug:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/kirtstanke/daily%20sketch/hand04.jpg

GreenDuckie
04-17-2008, 03:20 AM
Ooh Kirt I really like the top hand of that one! There's something about the sketchyness of it that really works for it. It's a really nice shaped hand too. :) Great job! You even got the veins in there, it's great!

calan
04-17-2008, 03:33 AM
Nice Kirt! Another very interesting style!

---

Im done with my #6

Reference #31 (right hand of Christ) : William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Pietà

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_06.jpg

and a gif version:

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_06_anim.gif

Starting up my #7 right away!

FateBringer
04-17-2008, 04:48 AM
hey great work everyone

Bouguereau-Le ravissement de psyche- 1600x1600 photoshop+grid

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z194/FateBringersLabyrinth/leravissementdepsychethehandsaa.jpg

Mark

anandpg
04-17-2008, 07:12 AM
Finally decided to sit down and comment on a few posts.. :D

Hey Ratheesh!! Great to see you here, buddy! awesome work, but I would like to see you do some master copys as well.

Hey Monica!.. good start! I think you just have to go slow and check the proportions at each step.

Hi SaphireS!!.. The master works are a great resource!.. much better than photograps, somehow!!

Windroll! great work, man!..love the Day 02 one.

Hi NoirQ! thats a good one.. looking forward to more!

Hi Balduran! good start!.. keep going!

Paul.. you are doing fine so far.. but it will help you more if you just leave out the inkdropper.. Rebecca's idea of swatches is a great one!!

Hey Dorothy.. really cool studies!.. I think you should pay attention to foreshortening and perspective a bit more.. I have felt that copying master-works really helps solve some of these problems.

Hi Agostino!!... Great to see your sculpt!:thumbsup: No.. I never came across this problem. Try changing your lazyRadius, lazyStep and lazySmooth settings.

Hey Valentina!.. great studies so far!!.. would be great if you post the original image on the page in stead of posting the thumbnail!

hey Catherine!!.. beautiful work! great colors!!... and thanks for the gif!!

Hey Kirt!! cool stuff, man!! :thumbsup:

Hi kevin!.. great style!! looking at the reference, I would say the fore arm and also the palm shoul be longer. To put it otherwise, the sculpture represents a rather tall person but looking at your copy, you could say the arm belongs to a person of average height. I love your line work and treatment, though!:thumbsup:

Hi Ron! Great to see you here!!.. Great start!!.. will you do some of the hands in pencil as well? I would really love to see your penciling style on a few of them!!

Hey Glen!! looking awesome!!

hey Matthew!!.. great to see you do this!! Love your shading!

Hey Bilal!!.. Great start!!

Hey stijn!! great work!.. watch the thumb area, though. I think it will make a great difference if you think in terms of 3d blocks in space, rather than just two dimensional shapes.

Hi Alex!! Great start!.. I would suggest that you sketch with pencil, scan them and paint over them. That will be double- pratice for you then!! :D .. and also enable you to structure it better.

Hey Mark!! Awesome stuff!!... watch the boy's right thumb, though... I think you have to work out the fore-shortening there.

Generally, I think copying of master work should be a sort of "reverse engineering" in that, you should analyse the process of the master, try to "construct" the way he/she did and try to "see" the 3dimensional forms that he saw, rather than seeing just the 2dimensional shapes he layed down on canvas to represent them... Just thought of expressing my thoughts here!(Hope I am not sounding pedantic!) :blush:

Rebeccak
04-17-2008, 08:16 AM
Really great to see the incoming work everyone. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to comment. My job = setting up the Workshop, so I appreciate it when everyone pitches in to take time to comment, if only on a few pieces that others have posted.

Welcome to all new people, and please continue to post. :)

More experiments from me. Texturey, I know. ;) Traditional stuff probably tomorrow.


http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Digital/OFDW%20023/OFDW-023_Hand-07.jpg

Quadart
04-17-2008, 12:44 PM
Wow everyone, lots of good stuff pouring in! I’m liking the stylistic variety.

Calan–nicely rendered collection. Bring us more.

SpiritDreamer–I like your unique style.

FateBringer–I like the rendering. It looks like you nailed the line placement with a tight grid? Looks like an exact overlay of the original. The lack of WIPs makes me curious.

Kirt–Nice latest entry. You say you like the hand at the bottom. I think you did a great job on the upper hand, and also like its structure better than that of the original. The only quip is the upper hand is digging deep into that stick. Keep the experiments coming.

Rebecca–Very rich and luminous image. It reminds me of the oil glazing technique used to achieve that look. I like the peeled paint texture but am not crazy about the other texture overlay with the strong vertical line.


Well, I’ll try to get some more sketches together soon, and may go back into a couple and take them to finish. My goal in this study is the drawing phase, to exercise my eye and sharpen up my structural interpretation of what’s observed without the aid of grids. I think by not using grids you are better able to develop your own drawing language, which allows you the freedom to create your own original work at the same caliber as a study copy (at least in the drawing phase).

ceruleanvii
04-17-2008, 12:52 PM
Amazing work, everyone! A very difficult subject indeed, but I'm seeing some beautiful studies here!

I finally got a chance to work on some hands yesterday, here are my first two - 02 Hand of the Madonna, 033 Petite Boudeuse.

http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/02_Michelangelo_Madonna_and_Child_fin.jpg


http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/33_Petite_boudeuse_fin.jpg

edit: I powered through the Madonna hand without saving any WIPS, but here's the early stage of my Petite Bodeuse hand. Guess I need to figure out how to make animated gifs for this workshop!

http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/33_Petite_boudeuse_wip.jpg

Frejasphere
04-17-2008, 01:48 PM
Hi all :)

great hands from so many!

Mark - Nice work on your Bouguereau hands :)

Kirt - I love the effect in yours, they remind me of Toulouse Lautrec - that 'poster'
yet vibrant colour feel :)

Calan - lovely hands from you!

Balduran - keep going! great to see you embarking on this workshop, your improvement is showing.

Anand - great hands, the sketches with the flowing lines are just lovely - great commenting too :)

thymia - don't be nervous :) people don't bite around here and you're off to a great start already, look forward to see where you take this one; I really like the the way you are applying the colours!

Glenn - nice work on your latest one!

ceruleanvii - nice :)

lots more I could comment on! I think Anand's comment about copying masters' work really puts it well:

Generally, I think copying of master work should be a sort of "reverse engineering" in that, you should analyse the process of the master, try to "construct" the way he/she did and try to "see" the 3dimensional forms that he saw, rather than seeing just the 2dimensional shapes he layed down on canvas to represent them...

with so many different techniques and approaches here it's just great to see - and intriguing to think what the original artists would think of the representations of their works :)

2 more from me:

#5
another one after William Bouguereau - study of hands (and feet)

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page378.jpg

white conte pencil on black paper (A3)
(I'm not happy with this one - it feels too all over the place)


#6
after Ribera - St Christopher

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page377.jpg
soft pastel on black paper (A3)

cheers all and take care
a. :)

retardedmonkey
04-17-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm sorry I'm not posting critiques, my knowledge on both anatomy and drawing/painting are far to limited :(

I'm trying to figure out how to do the shading...I can't figure out how to get it looking as nice and effective as the various pencil sketches up here. The blocking in with straighter lines is really helping me to get the proportions closer. Now I just need to get my shading better. I'm really enjoying this workshop so far tho!

Done after #9 Christ Carrying Cross

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/slinkysmeagol/pix024-1.jpg

anandpg
04-17-2008, 05:02 PM
Awesome image, Rebecca!.. though I can barely see the hand :D

Del! beautiful work!! Love the colors!!:bounce:

Hey Annette!!.. great to see your pastels!:thumbsup: I think I will try a hand at pastels sometime later in this workshop!! :D

Great going, Michael!!

hand #6 from me
after
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Petite boudeuse

Man, I am loving Bouguereau!! I think I will do atleast one more hand from this painting!!
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x122/anandpg/OFDW23_006.jpg

anandpg
04-17-2008, 05:38 PM
here is hand #7.. from the same painting by William Bouguereau!

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x122/anandpg/OFDW23_007.jpg

anandpg
04-17-2008, 06:41 PM
One more to make up for yesterday :D
Not too happy with this one :(

Hand #8
after Michelangelo
Slave (dying)

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x122/anandpg/OFDW23_008.jpg

Rebeccak
04-17-2008, 07:14 PM
FateBringer–I like the rendering. It looks like you nailed the line placement with a tight grid? Looks like an exact overlay of the original. The lack of WIPs makes me curious.I would agree that for work where the image is matching the reference almost exactly, it would be useful to see WIPs. This is not an invitation to be suspicious of every realistic work - however, in the spirit of the Workshop, I think that WIP images and a description of the work process is useful for others and is demonstrative of transparency on the part of the artist.

For this Workshop, I will only be plugging final images that are accompanied by WIP images - which artists can include as a set in a single post along with their final images (to avoid having multiple posts for a single image). Please also feel free to post a gif of the process for your best pieces.

Rebeccak
04-17-2008, 07:29 PM
Everyone Please Note:

I have created a new set of guidelines for the Workshop which can be seen here at the start of the thread:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=5078665&postcount=3

SPOTLIGHT Thread Guidelines

Please Note:

At the end of each OFDW, I create a SPOTLIGHT (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=198&t=347012) thread highlighting the best work from the Workshop.

For this Workshop, I will only be plugging (including in the SPOTLIGHT thread) final images that are accompanied by WIP images - which artists can include as a set in a single post along with their final images (to avoid having multiple posts for a single image). Please also feel free to post a gif of the process for your best pieces.

This will especially be the case in instances where the work matches the reference image rather exactly.

You need not provide WIPs for images where it is obvious that no tracing has been involved, or for simple sketches. The purpose of providing WIP images for your work is to demonstrate transparency of your work process. An accompanying explanation of your work flow can also be helpful.

LadyPurple
04-17-2008, 07:54 PM
Hi to all guys! Beautiful works!

FateBringer, great work!
anandpg, yes, you have reason :blush: sorry :) great sketches.. you're fast!
Rebecca, beautiful texturing! :)

This is my sketch #7 from ref 16 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=9431&hires=1)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9117/hand7gf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Bye :)

PaulAherne
04-17-2008, 08:05 PM
Here's my #4 hand:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/ahernep2/04-1.jpg

About an 1.5 hrs. From number 29 in the list, William Bouguereau.

Gonna try my best at doing a decent hand study in colour over the weekend. Give myself a few hours at least to do it since I absolutely suck at colour.

NR43
04-17-2008, 08:05 PM
Someone requested a study in ballpen...
So here's my 6th hand study. Got another one in the making, which I hope to finish tomorrow.

30. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=52&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Flagellation de Notre Seigneur Jésus Christ [The Flagellation of Our Lord Jesus Christ]
Oil on canvas, 1880
121 5/8 x 83 3/8 inches (309 x 212 cm)
Cathedral of La Rochelle, La Rochelle
http://users.telenet.be/nr43/images/cgtalk/workshops/OFDW23/Image0165_resize.JPG

Saw some awesome work again here today :bowdown:

Kirt
04-17-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm trying to figure out how to do the shading...I can't figure out how to get it looking as nice and effective as the various pencil sketches up here. The blocking in with straighter lines is really helping me to get the proportions closer. Now I just need to get my shading better.
This used to bother me as well. After spending large amounts of time trying to figure out a method for shading that (in my own overly critical mind) looked proper, I finally gave up and just decided to do what feels natural to me. I suppose it's just something that you can attribute to style, and I'm sure there are ways that you can learn the different methods. However, I don't believe that you should be consentrating on the techniques when doing these types of studies. You should be relaxed and loose.

You can stack straight lines, dots, circles or squiggles and it'll all have the same effect.

More = Darker

I think that's all you should know and that you should have fun with the rest. :D

Smartypants
04-17-2008, 09:49 PM
I just discovered this thread, which is a shame, because I feel like I've missed out on several days already! Since I have some free time on my hands (no pun intended) I'm going to go for it. Here's my first submission, reference #31, from Bougereau's Pieta:

http://www.cleverevans.com/attic/images/hands/hands01/hand_01_final_for_web.jpg

Here's the original reference:

http://www.cleverevans.com/attic/images/hands/hands01/num-31_bougereau_pieta.jpg

And here's an animated gif of the progression:

http://www.cleverevans.com/attic/images/hands/hands01/hand_01_progression.gif

I'd say the whole thing took me 3 to 3.5 hours. I'm slow. We'll see if I get to 25. I'd like to complete 1 per day. The rest of the work is looking great! I'll try to participate more in the forum.

tizianoadmirer
04-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Nr 2: http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/4/4/17/f_h2m_5a07da2.jpg

RockstarKate
04-18-2008, 01:31 AM
I'm counting this as #3,4,5,&6 because I will never get to 25 if I don't :)
Illustrator.
based on:
Les Noisettes
Bougereau

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/Les_noisettes_KLP.jpg

Gif:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/Les_noisettes_Step05.gif

FateBringer
04-18-2008, 01:50 AM
hey

oops, forgot to mention i used a grid on that last one i did, but not so tight i got every thing
perfect, great eye anandpg :thumbsup:

keep up the great work everyone :)


Mark

Kirt
04-18-2008, 03:02 AM
Quick and sloppy is what I'd call this one. It has a comic book-ish or Jack Kirby like feel, but not quite. I dunno ... here it is. Judge on it's own merits. :D

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a294/kirtstanke/daily%20sketch/hand05.jpg

Smartypants - That's wierd. I thought someone posted my first hand for a sec. I guess that's to be expected when we're all working off the same ref images. :D Nice job either way. I think you could have extended the two middle fingers a bit more and added more shadow between the knuckles of the index and thumb.

RockstarKate - Another good vector. I personally think you should have stopped around step 4 or 5 in your gif. The emphasis is too much on the hands in your final.

PaulAherne - Very nice light and shadow off the back of the wrist.

anandpg - I really love #6 there. Good use of lines around the forearm and wrist to define the shapes.

Rebeccak
04-18-2008, 03:26 AM
Kirt, I like the energy of this last one a lot. I think if you could take that into an impasto technique too, that might be an interesting experiment. Cool to see the jumping around that people are doing.

Kirt
04-18-2008, 03:41 AM
Kirt, I like the energy of this last one a lot. I think if you could take that into an impasto technique too, that might be an interesting experiment. Cool to see the jumping around that people are doing.
I would love to try that. Unfortunately, no Painter here. I'm still working with Photoshop 7.0 :cry:

jancko
04-18-2008, 03:57 AM
my first one (#1)
hands study from
30. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=52&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Flagellation de Notre Seigneur Jésus Christ [The Flagellation of Our Lord Jesus Christ]
Oil on canvas, 1880
121 5/8 x 83 3/8 inches (309 x 212 cm)
Cathedral of La Rochelle, La Rochelle



http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8328/janckostudy3001rz9.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2791/janckostudy3002xm7.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5584/janckostudy3003fb0.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/996/janckostudy3004ym5.jpg

Rebeccak
04-18-2008, 04:03 AM
I would love to try that. Unfortunately, no Painter here. I'm still working with Photoshop 7.0 :cry:Hehe, did you try mv's brushes? They're located here:

http://mv.cgsociety.org/blog/

I'm pretty sure they're compatible with PS 7 - give it a try maybe. :)

Kirt
04-18-2008, 04:17 AM
It says "PS CS and up" on his blog. :(

Smartypants
04-18-2008, 04:17 AM
There's some great work being posted here.

Kirt, I see what you mean about our first images being similar. Perhaps your painting registered in my brain and stuck there on the subliminal level. It most likely motivated me to jump in myself. I really dig the various stylistic approaches you are taking, especially this most recent one. Yeah, those middle two fingers might not be quite the right size. I struggle with proportion a LOT.

RockstarKate: I dig the use of vector. I have used vectors to make images in the past. You kind of have to "sculpt" the curve into the shape you want it to be. The clean precise edges and curves can be satisfying.

Prettyh8Machine: Don't be so hard on yourself! Your attempt is a good one. Your hand has volume and depth in space. Besides, we all have to struggle with making crap drawings.

xstijn: Nice use of graphic light and dark.

Anandpg: I like the way you draw through the form, the way your lines describe the topographical surface of the hand. Nice.

Rebeccak
04-18-2008, 04:26 AM
It says "PS CS and up" on his blog. :(You might try hunting down some of zhuzhu's brushes. I'm pretty sure that he is using PS 7.0.

Google: site:cgsociety.org + zhuzhu + brushes yielded:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=341709

Yay, tomorrow = my day off = some hands, finally, and some comments, I promise. ;)

calan
04-18-2008, 04:34 AM
Great job everyone!

Havent been really productive tonight.. did one study with HB on normal paper.. wanted to scan the thing.. and well my scanner did a very bad job so I decided to work on it a little bit more in photoshop to finally see my image right beside the reference and realise that my proportions were kinda bad! aaaw.. then had no more will to continue on that one and started another.. so thats why I only have a small wip for tonight.. and there it is:

Reference #21 Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres (1780-1867)
Lorenzo Bartolini

http://www.squeezestudio.com/Cat/Hand_study_07_WIP.jpg

Frejasphere
04-18-2008, 06:18 AM
Hi all - and great work everyone :)
not sure if living on the other side of the world has anything to do with
this thread going leaps and bounds in the hours when I really should be sleeping :D
great to see the variety :wavey:

#7 from me
after Ingres - Vicomtesse Othenin D'Haussonville

an oil-sketch on board (A4 size) roughly 20 min
http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page380.jpg

cheers all and take care
a. :)

LadyPurple
04-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi to all, this is #8 from me, ref 35 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=58&hires=1)

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5746/hand8kk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/63/gifhand8qm6.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Bye :)

espora
04-18-2008, 03:06 PM
Segundo Intento
02 Leonardo_da_Vinci_Study_of_hands

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2423460730_857bfd7586_o.jpg

anandpg
04-18-2008, 07:36 PM
Great to see all the updates!! Will comment tomorrow!!... too tired (drunk, to be precise :D )

#8
after
William Bouguereau
Le Gué [The Ford]
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x122/anandpg/OFDW23_009.jpg

ayenlou
04-18-2008, 08:11 PM
Hi everyone! Great stuff so after lurking through this thread and see everyone's work it motivated me to start.

So below is my VERY VERY FIRST HAND STUDY! Because I had a fear of drawing hands and this time turned out not so bad. If you guys ask Rebecca she'll vouch for me. I tend to stay away from hands and feet when I draw haha

So I gridded my picture did a basic block in, touched up the block in, then shaded. Below is the final product. Simple but took me a while >_<

http://andy.cung.googlepages.com/hand001.jpg

RockstarKate
04-18-2008, 08:24 PM
Hand #7
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/hand7.jpg

Referenced my own hand. It looks funny after looking at alll these perfectly posed and proportioned fine art hands :) Oh well, some of us have short stubby fingers too.

Will comment later. Must escape from work.

Rebeccak
04-18-2008, 08:40 PM
Hey everyone, good to see the stuff continue to roll in. :)

espora, welcome aboard and welcome to CGTalk. :) Nice subtle shading, I'd maybe work more on the structure of the 2nd hand? Good to see your work here.

Ayenlou / Andy, nice to have you aboard - good to see you using the week where there's no homework wisely. :) And very nice first hand! One thing to be careful of is that shadow on the finger, which makes it look more narrow than it actually is. Nice work, did you do this in a sketchbook?

Good to see the gifs coming in as well - thanks to those of you who are providing them. As a general reminder, remember that they are not necessary for basic sketches, just for completed works where the final resembles the reference very closely.

Thanks all! :)

ayenlou
04-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Okey dokey, just added another set of hands in my sketch book! Hope ya'll digg. This one was kinda tricky. Knuckles are hard to shade >_<

http://andy.cung.googlepages.com/hand002.jpg

Rebeccak
04-19-2008, 07:45 AM
Nice to see your second set, Andy. Watch those angles, don't be anxious to get to the curves as you'll overlook the basic structure. Nice work overall, you are capturing some nice subtleties. :) One suggestion might be to try a few hands without a grid. While a grid is a great learning device, it's also great to test your ability to judge relative distances only by sight.

As per my own rules ;) I won't post WIP here, but I've started a traditional hand drawing, WIP of which you can see here (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/ofdw-023-hand-10-traditional-wip.html). The pictures are pretty light, apologies as I'm photographing graphite lines at night.

Looking forward to more posts from everyone.

anandpg
04-19-2008, 08:25 AM
Hey Rebecca.. one quick question.. where do you get a book-holder/stand(?) that you are using in this photo (http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Photos/Misc/Easel-Shots_Demo-Hand_01.jpg)? is it possible to order one online?

Rebeccak
04-19-2008, 08:41 AM
Hey Rebecca.. one quick question.. where do you get a book-holder/stand(?) that you are using in this photo (http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Photos/Misc/Easel-Shots_Demo-Hand_01.jpg)? is it possible to order one online?It's a cookbook stand (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=cookbook+stand&x=0&y=0). :D I got it several years back at a store in the US called Crate and Barrel, but I'm pretty sure you can find them just anywhere. :) The link is to amazon.com, it looks like they have a good variety there for very little cost. I love mine because it's metal and very sturdy - I wouldn't get anything that's plastic as it wouldn't be heavy enough.

On Amazon, this (http://www.amazon.com/Countertop-Cookbook-Holder-Recipe-Reading/dp/B001160IB8/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1208595329&sr=1-23) is the closest thing I can find to what I've got. I should say that with the book on the stand, I still have to paperclip or use binder clips to keep the pages flat.

Another place that has great stuff (but that is pretty pricey) is Levenger (http://www.levenger.com/pagetemplates/navigation/Preview.asp?Params=category=17-148%7Clevel=2-3%7CSortMethod=0%7Cpagecount=1). I drool over their catalog every year. :)

Edit - here's a pic (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/rebeccak5/Misc/cookbook-holder.jpg) of mine minus the book.

Frejasphere
04-19-2008, 10:22 AM
Hi all :)

LadyPurple - nice work on your last one, and interesting to see the WIP as well

Anand :beer: :D - hand is nice as well

Johan - meant to say earlier; that ball-point pen drawing of yours is lovely!

Ayenlou - good to see your hands, doing great esp. as they're your first ever! keep it up

RockstarKate - Nice linework on your hand, only comment is the knuckle 'bend' area on the thumb, which may need a few more lines to describe the bend, the shading comes up over the knuckle so it ends up 'breaking' the thumb. Not sure if this makes sense to you? A curved line on top of the knuckle would help show the form.

Rebecca - thanks for the link to the 'cookbook stand' I am forever balancing books against things, which not so infrequently fall over :D

Hands #8, 9 & 10 from me:

I've used my own hand as a reference, sitting at the kitchen table drawing from life,
listening to the rain outside...

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page382.jpg
pen on paper (A3)

http://abolinaart.abolins.net/Sketchbook/images/page381.jpg
red conte on paper - (A3)

cheers all and take care
a. :)

tizianoadmirer
04-19-2008, 01:45 PM
My nr 3:
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/19/f_h3m_f3f09a7.jpg

RockstarKate
04-19-2008, 02:40 PM
Some of my favorites so far:

LadyPurple: All of yours have a beautiful smoothness, a very airbrushed quality. Nice choices on the colors too. A lot of them have a sepia tone kind of look.

Anandpg: Love your free sketchy style. I like the use of curved lines to do the shading, it really shows the volume of the shapes and your excellent knowledge of anatomy.

Kirt: I like the one with the scribbly lines and no opacity variations. The colors are delightful.

Metacom: I like your number 5 a lot. The textures are very appealing.

Java6v: best 3D hand so far. The specular highlight seems just a tad shiny, otherwise very realistic texturing. The pinky seems like it might be angled a little strangely in relation to the rest of the hand.

Ratheesh300: I like the style of your drawings. In the one with the 2 hands on the pink cloth, the left hand is getting a little flat. I think the perspective should probably be stronger- the pinky should look smaller relative to the other fingers. The right hand looks good.

Agostinuke: another good 3D hand. I think some of the features look a little formless- like the knuckles and the back of the hand. The back of the hand looks a little concave in a strange way. I think if you added a little more detail, you’d have a really good model.

Quadart: Great Photoshop sketches. I love the white highlighting.

Ceruleanvil, FateBringer and calan: You have come very close to the originals, great work!

Balduran
04-19-2008, 04:24 PM
Grr, why do those reply notifications don't work like they should?


Anyway, i was quite busy lately (Stupid exams!) but i've finally managed to do something today :)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6469/hand3go3.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
(I know, the index finger is too long...)

Edit.
Oh my! I just noticed that i used the second picture instead of the third one as reference xD

iman121
04-19-2008, 04:46 PM
hey I`ve selected Jeune Fille Allant à la Fontaine
http://i31.tinypic.com/2vuzbya.jpg
Now I`m going to modeling the hands :D

Quadart
04-19-2008, 04:53 PM
Lookin’ good all.

RockstarKate–your last one reminds me of M. C. Escher’s ’Drawing Hands’ (http://www.etropolis.com/escher/pix/donotlink/hands.jpg).
If you make a copy and rotate it 180° you could position the pen point on the end of the inner wrist line and have the hands drawing each other.

Rebeccak–I really like the way you captured the forms in your latest work. Nicely delineated fingers.
I want one of those cookbook stands too.

Well, I better get crackin on some hands soon.

RockstarKate
04-19-2008, 08:01 PM
I decided to do a Photoshop one even though I hate Photoshop. I feel kind of eh about it.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/Jeunecopy_KLP.jpg

based on
36. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=69&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Jeune Bergere [Young Shepherdess]

ceruleanvii
04-19-2008, 09:11 PM
Two more hands:

Hand 21 by Ingres:
http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/hands/21_ingres_bartolinifin.jpg

and wips (haven't had time to figure out the animated gif thing)

http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/hands/21_ingres_bartolini_wip.jpg

Hand 42, Cupid, Bougereau

http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/hands/42_cupid_fin.jpg

and wips:

http://www.pixelmancer.com/dlowmel/hands/42_cupid_wips.jpg


I could not resist painting that Cupid's face.

Quick description of my process: I'm trying to use some basic lines and angle measurements to get away from relying on a grid. I block in the values, and build it up from there.

My motivation for doing this workshop - I really want to learn how to digitally paint hands in a realistic manner. Because I hate and dread it. So I'm going to stick pretty close to the references, I really want to try and figure out how the different artists got those hands to work. Boring, I know, sorry - but I know this'll help me overcome my hand phobia.

-----

Oh, there are so many wonderful hands being painted for this thread! I've got no time at the moment to comment on them all, though I will try to come back next week and do so. I need to take a break from the hands and get cranking on a painting due Monday... Hmm, I am seriously doubting I will get all 25 hands done by May 12th...

But I'll comment on a few now - Ananpg, love your sketches! Calan, LadyPurple, beautiful rendering! Johan, love that ballpoint one. RockStarKate, Kirt - digging the different things you're trying out - especially the vectors. PaulAherne, nice one #4! RetartedMonkey, Ayenlou, great starts, nice work! RebeccaK, very cool atmospheric texture work.

I'll hopefully rejoin you all with more hands and comments sometime next week -

tizianoadmirer
04-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Nr. 4:
http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/4/4/19/f_h4m_3457905.jpg

tizianoadmirer
04-19-2008, 10:49 PM
and nr 5:
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/4/19/f_h5m_7afde7b.jpg

SpiritDreamer
04-20-2008, 02:37 AM
APR. 19, 2008

#4 FOR ME..Rembrandt...The hands are basically done, but I am doing the whole painting, going into the rest of the smooth underpainting that I have so far, with the impasto brushes, as I have just done on the hands...If anyone is interested,the wips that I have so far,the painting technique/method, and a scan of the original can be found in the last pages of my sketchbook/anatomy thread..the link is at the bottom of this post.
GREAT JOB SO FAR..EVERYONE...Lots of varity of technique..:) :thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/REMBRANT_HAND_STUDY_18.jpg

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/REMBRANT_HAND_STUDY_19.jpg

LadyPurple
04-20-2008, 05:15 AM
Frejasphere, RockstarKate, Ceruleanvii, thanks for your appreciations :love:I'm very glad that you like my drawings! Beautiful work you too!
Guys, it's a pleasure to draw with you. :) Keep going!

Number 9 from me, reference n 41 (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1414&hires=1) .. i'm a little tired :arteest:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7997/hand9qk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6255/gifhand9wy9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

See ya :)

jancko
04-20-2008, 06:59 AM
my #2, several attempts from
36. (http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=69&hires=1)
William Bouguereau (1825-1905)
Jeune Bergere [Young Shepherdess]
Oil on canvas laid down on board, 1885
62 x 28 1/2 inches (157.5 x 72.5 cm)
San Diego Museum of Art, San Diego

trying good finished sketches .... I do not have problems with the proportions, which bothers me is the finished line, I believe that I worry too much about the similarity and end up neglecting the final image, the final image don`t stand on its own.
When to stop worry about the original image and start worry about the copy?
somebody can help me?



http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7055/janckostudy3601vo4.jpghttp://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7410/janckostudy3602af4.jpghttp://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8374/janckostudy3603de6.jpghttp://img518.imageshack.us/img518/672/janckostudy3604sq1.jpg

Rebeccak
04-20-2008, 11:20 AM
Nice to see the work still coming in. I swear that I look at every post, but with 25 hands / person, I'm going to run out of comments. ;) I'm definitely learning something from everyone here, and I'm sure that everyone is doing the same. :) I think it always helps to ask yourself what you can improve in your own work - and then when you've run out of a checklist of improvements and you cannot honestly come up with more to critique, then that is when you request critique from others. :)

LadyPurple, that's lovely! Great work. I particularly like the work on the eyes.

When to stop worry about the original image and start worry about the copy?jancko, I'm not sure what you mean - but for myself, I worry more about what's reading on the page, vs. whether or not my version looks *exactly* like the original. I want *my* drawing to work, and I simply use the reference as a starting point and guide. Ultimately what matters is what is on the page.

I've been working a bit on my traditional hand. I may work a bit further on this, but I probably won't render completely. I'll continue to post further WIP for this hand here (http://mirrorbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/ofdw-023-hand-10-traditional-wip.html).

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Traditional-Drawings/OFDW%20023%20Traditional/Hands_Traditional_08.jpg

An easel shot:

http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/gallery/albums/Photos/Misc/Easel-Shots_Demo-Hand_03.jpg

Keep the good work coming in everyone! :)

Asatira
04-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Wow, amazing stuff, everyone. I found out about this just the other day, and just what I needed to help get out of an art funk. Gonna try to complete some, but I doubt I'll get 25 in.

SpiritDreamer
04-20-2008, 01:57 PM
APR. 20, 2008

Nice one Rebecca...:thumbsup:

I am not doing 25 hands, instead I am concentrating on just a few of Rembrandt's ..so that should allow me to make 25 post of what I do do...is that ok Rebecca...;)

Rembrandt...Portrait of an old man in red.
Painter #9
Glenn

http://artbyglenngallegos.com/images/REMBRANT_HAND_STUDY_22.jpg

anandpg
04-20-2008, 02:16 PM
Hey Valentina! Awesome stuff as usuall!! :buttrock:

Hi Paul! beautiful work!

Hey Johan!! the ballpen study rocks!! way to go, buddy!! :buttrock:

Hi Smartypants!.. Great to see your work!.. All you need is to make your construction a bit tighter.

Hey Tiziano!!.. good going.. I have posted steps as you asked for.

Hey RockstarKate your vector art is cool!!

Hey Kirt! thanks! your style rocks!!

Hi jancko!.. thanks! good going!.. I would suggest using construction lines.

Hi Catherine! going great!!

Hey Annette!! thanks!!.. OOH! that brown pencil hand is scary!! Looks like you over-did the shading a bit, huh? Love your technique though!.. great to see you use different media!

Hi espora! good start! LFTM!!(that means "looking forward to more" - dont look at me.. Rebecca started that.. I am just trying to popularise it! :D )

Hi ayenlou!! good start!!.. you gotta watch those shadows.. you have shaded the ones on David's middle finger and his thigh same as the background.

Hey RockstarKate! Thanks a lot! you are too kind!

Hey Rebecca! Thanks a lot!! I am ordering it! looks like it can make my life a lot easier!

Hi Balduran! good start. A careful blocking can make your drawing much better.

Hi Iman! great to see more 3d studies here!

Hey Del!! good work!! :thumbsup: great to see your method too!

Hey Glenn!! this last one really rocks!!

Rebecca!! needless to say, your charcoal is in a class of its own!!.. LFTM on this!! :D

there you go.. hand #10

Not very happy with this one as I had to stop in between to scan the WIPs and so got a bit self-conscious.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8454/ofdw23010aqi5.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2673/ofdw23010bvt5.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/710/ofdw23010vv8.jpg

Asatira
04-20-2008, 04:38 PM
I decided to do #44, Waterhouse's Destiny. Not too fond of fingers on her right hand, and the shading could be smoother, but not too bad.

Set up to start.
http://org-chaos.net/blog/041908.jpg

Final scan. I'm going to come back to this subject later, see if there's any improvement.http://org-chaos.net/blog/042008.jpg

RockstarKate
04-20-2008, 04:51 PM
Here's another photoshop one from me. This workshop finally made me break down and go buy a tablet, so this is the first try with it.

hand #8, based on Michelangelo's Tomb of Lorenzo.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c15/rockstarkate/tombklp.jpg

anandpg
04-20-2008, 05:09 PM
Hi Michelle!! Great to see your method!!:thumbsup: Abit more care on shading would surely improve the piece.

Hey Kate!! Congrats on buying the tablet! :bounce: Believe me, life will look much brighter from now on!!:buttrock:

anandpg
04-20-2008, 07:07 PM
All arcs for this one!:
after William Bouguereau
Jeune Bergere [Young Shepherdess]

blocking with curves..
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5018/ofdw23011jc8.jpg

better outlines...
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9120/ofdw23011ari3.jpg

shading.. ( I don't know why.. my shading seems to get worse with each piece!!:rolleyes: )
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4981/ofdw23011bdl7.jpg