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Sachiel22
04-08-2008, 05:45 PM
Tobias Berge is entered in the "Uplift Universe Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/uplift_universe/view_entries.php?challenger=15232)

Latest Update: Final Image: final image and story
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Sachiel22
04-08-2008, 06:53 PM
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Hey all,

iīm a bit late with all the stuff, but itīs still time... :)

Ok i started with an alien, that is similar to an tropical animal a bit froglike.

I think an alien has to be bigger than humans, cuz it has to symbolizes an predominance. So i did it nearly 4-5 meters high.

Iīve done alot searches for inspiration in the net, like you did i guess. ;)

Also iīve a strong direction to the aliens of the movie "Artificial Intelligence" from spielberg.

These are really only rough thoughts, about the different ways it could probably go, but the overall direction is clear. So i need some help from you... what do you like and what not... just give me feedback and maybe some other ideas.

A little bit about the aliens abilities:

Itīs called mindseeker and looks for your nicest or even worsest dreams in your brain. It has these hairlike wires at the end of itīs fingers an goes through the head.
While it keeps you with itīs arms (still thinking about the realization), the head comes down to let you see your dreams and pictures u had in your life in these big monitor. It has lights around these to make it like an interrogation.

The alien has no weapons, but an strong magnetical field, that goes from the monitor, so you canīt hurt it with metallic ammunation.

Ok things keep me busy...

Sachiel22
04-10-2008, 01:23 PM
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Well, trying to find an overall composition. Iīm still open for everything, so letīs see how i end up with the final scatch.

Iīm going to do some more, so maybe i find another good one.

For your info:

I want to capture a scene, that explains the aliens abilities and do the picture a bit scary. The viewer has to know these aliens are not very friendly, so you look into the monitor and see what the soldiers on the battlefield do/did.

My main focus will be the picture in these frontal big monitor. Still thinking about the motive.

Itīs an exterior war scene, but iīm also looking for an perspectival interior, that works.

stay tuned... :)

Sachiel22
04-11-2008, 02:45 PM
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Still looking for more compositions...

One and two keeping only the thought to work with the alien in the foreground. The others are about the real environment composition.

The third scatch i was thinking about an base. Soldiers are walking out of it. There are also some tanks moving out and flying vehicles on the main platform at the upper left.

The fourth is an base, that has only some depots of soldiers around it to defend those.

Favourite is of course the third atm... it has a nice fore and background. If i take this one i will try to support the midground better as now.

I change the format to horizontal to get more information about the overall scenario, so whatīs exactly going on there.

(iīm sorry, that iīm not going to do something that is more similar to the novels of David Brin. Iīve really never read some of his books. Sure there are good inspiration and info about it, but i had an fast idea in my mind of an real unique alien, so this is the reason iīm going to do an own alien race.)

Sachiel22
04-14-2008, 01:41 PM
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Still looking for an final composition. The scene captures the alien, that is absorbing the humans mind.

Very loose and the scene changed into more interior.

Sachiel22
04-14-2008, 03:54 PM
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some more shapes to define the environment... letīs see what happen if i play a bit with color ;)

also i gave the horizontal line an angle to get an more uncontrolled feeling for the viewer. The situation has to be dramatic as possible.

Sachiel22
04-14-2008, 04:51 PM
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Hereīs the colored composition i want to go with. An strong warm color set into an cool.

I lost some details from my prev one, but i think to come back into it in the next steps.

The only one iīm worry about is the midground. Still thinking, how iīm going to support this.

Sachiel22
04-14-2008, 04:52 PM
Going to detail it out.

Sachiel22
04-14-2008, 06:39 PM
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Doing some details here and there. Iīm very open in my progress, so letīs see what the drawing will go through. ;)

Iīm detailing the background at the right as next and also try to find some more interesting shapes.

Sachiel22
04-15-2008, 01:34 PM
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Well, itīs all about detailing now.

RayBender
04-15-2008, 01:41 PM
i like it alot... though i think color contrast between red and blue is to heavy.. background buildings could use some more distant feeling colors and there should be some red bounce light on the dark blueish building... composition is very nice :)

Sachiel22
04-15-2008, 02:22 PM
i like it alot... though i think color contrast between red and blue is to heavy.. background buildings could use some more distant feeling colors and there should be some red bounce light on the dark blueish building... composition is very nice :)

Thanks ray,

i detailed it in the distance hope your eyes jump a bit more into it now. Iīm also looking for some shapes i can use to get these effect much stronger... :)

walrus
04-15-2008, 02:31 PM
Beautiful work so far! I like the palette, and the scene is interesting. I find it really hard to read the alien, as he (and the human) are the same color as the area behind them. Perhaps you can bring some more of those oranges in the bakcround more to the center sto silhouette the characters more? Or add a contrasting light off-screen to the left in the foreground plane? Or maybe you just want the alien to be a mysterious shadow-lurker! :) (Even so, he's a bit hard to read.) Good luck!

Sachiel22
04-15-2008, 02:51 PM
Beautiful work so far! I like the palette, and the scene is interesting. I find it really hard to read the alien, as he (and the human) are the same color as the area behind them. Perhaps you can bring some more of those oranges in the bakcround more to the center sto silhouette the characters more? Or add a contrasting light off-screen to the left in the foreground plane? Or maybe you just want the alien to be a mysterious shadow-lurker! :) (Even so, he's a bit hard to read.) Good luck!

Thanks walrus,

your right the alien has the same color as the background. I thought to do it like a liquid (ya maybe like a shadow-lurker), so it mirrows the background, but if it doesnīt work for any reason i think to recolor it. Ok, iīm going to refine the alien, so it gets an clear silhouette that works... thanks again! ;)

beelow
04-15-2008, 03:14 PM
YOu could also try to add a 3rd lightsource coming onto the alien. I think you can also push the design of the alien further. I am not digging the tube neck. I feel that it should have a bit more structure to it. I dig the colors and the composition. Good luck with your entry. I will keep an eye on this one for sure. :thumbsup:

Sachiel22
04-15-2008, 03:36 PM
YOu could also try to add a 3rd lightsource coming onto the alien. I think you can also push the design of the alien further. I am not digging the tube neck. I feel that it should have a bit more structure to it. I dig the colors and the composition. Good luck with your entry. I will keep an eye on this one for sure. :thumbsup:

Yes i also was thinking about an 3rd light to get a real interesting flow of the aliens body. But if i go in and do it as already said (liquid body), iīve to do clean shapes into the background first, so itīs going to take a while before i really touch the aliens body. Iīm still open in terms of it and as you can see the process is still loose.

Again, thanks alot to ya all!! I really appreciate your comments. :)

Donglu-LittleFish
04-15-2008, 05:11 PM
Great composition and lighting! very eye-catching!

MartinNielsen
04-17-2008, 07:48 PM
Very nice work :) I agree that you definitely need some extra lighting in the scene. Right now the alien and human seem almost invisible from a distance. It's hard for me to what's actually going on in the scene. The colors are otherwise flawless :bowdown:

Sachiel22
04-18-2008, 08:03 PM
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Some changes in the fly...

I calibrated perspective mistakes and worked details from back to front. The background in the aliens area i filled up with a cool color, that will be shining on the back of it.

Letīs also see later on, if i really need a third light.

Next step will be refine the soldiers on the left and maybe i add some in the right midground. The alien and soldier will be the last iīm going to touch.

I donīt think i will end up with an perfectly fine art piece (especially in the background), but this is the way i work and i like these loose style alot. :)

And if you think the contrast is still too high, let me say i will push it back with some smoke. If this wonīt help iīm going to take a layer and erase areas out i wanne catch the eye on.

Cuchulain
04-18-2008, 09:24 PM
Looks good.

I like the perspective and the environment.
However, my eye looks all around the picture at bright colors and rectilinear shapes, and the main figure is the last thing i looks at. Don’t know if you want that effect.

The figures don’t feel that they are IN the environment, because they are drawn in different perspective.
The background looks like it is painted from a upper view, and the futures look like they are painted from the lower side.

But, I love the color and contrast variations. Good design too.

Hope i was helpful.

Cuchulain
04-18-2008, 09:25 PM
Looks good.

I like the perspective and the environment.
However, my eye looks all around the picture at bright colors and rectilinear shapes, and the main figure is the last thing i looks at. Don’t know if you want that effect.

The figures don’t feel that they are IN the environment, because they are drawn in different perspective.
The background looks like it is painted from a upper view, and the futures look like they are painted from the lower side.

But, I love the color and contrast variations. Good design too.

Hope i was helpful.

Sachiel22
04-18-2008, 09:50 PM
Thanks Donglu-LittleFish! ;)

Very nice work :) I agree that you definitely need some extra lighting in the scene. Right now the alien and human seem almost invisible from a distance. It's hard for me to what's actually going on in the scene. The colors are otherwise flawless :bowdown:

Also thanks martin... i hope it fits to you now. I will try to get some extra light in it with some effects (plasma bullets/shield reflection), so it looks more interesting for the viewer.

ok everything i could say for now is...

stay tuned folks :)

Sachiel22
04-19-2008, 11:48 AM
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Hereīs the next one...

as i already said i took a dark layer and erased only the areas out i want to show on.


I thought, that i need more space into the environment, so i decided to remove the soldiers and detail this area to support a far view.

I also tried to explain, that the big dark shape is a round futuristic bulding, where soldiers just move out.

Nearly done with the environment... ;)

Sachiel22
04-19-2008, 12:07 PM
Looks good.

I like the perspective and the environment.
However, my eye looks all around the picture at bright colors and rectilinear shapes, and the main figure is the last thing i looks at. Don’t know if you want that effect.

The figures don’t feel that they are IN the environment, because they are drawn in different perspective.
The background looks like it is painted from a upper view, and the futures look like they are painted from the lower side.

But, I love the color and contrast variations. Good design too.

Hope i was helpful.

Yes it always helps alot, if other eyes see mistakes i donīt. :)

Well first i want to detail the environment as good as possible, so i donīt have to be worry the pic looks too rough. Iīve still the possiblility to get smoke or something into the scene to push some environmental details back.

The figures are very rough, thatīs for sure... so letīs see later on, if they fit more when i detail them out. And if there are still problems to get them into the overall pic, iīm going to interact them as i said with plasma bullets/energyshild from the midground soldiers.

Thanks for your critique i always appriciate it... ;)

Sachiel22
04-20-2008, 12:07 AM
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I added smoke to push all the details/black areas back and a soldier, which is using his jumpboots.

Sachiel22
05-08-2008, 07:36 PM
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Sorry for the late update, iīm currently very busy with work.

I was really fed up with the whole environment set i did.

I recognized, that i had too much details in my drawing and i had no chance to flesh the main characters out.

Even with smoke and other stuff i had in mind, pushing the environment back failed. Short, it didnīt work as thought.

So i changed the whole setting. Time is moving fast now and i try to finish it in the next few days, maybe iīm going to leave it soon... wish me luck... O_o

Sachiel22
05-08-2008, 10:37 PM
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I did some corrections, added details and need a answer of someone, who knows if my image isnīt against the CG-Rules.

As you can see there is some blood in the pic. And the rules say:
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Images must conform to nominal decency guidelines. Any image deemed to contain content that depicts violence, racial, political, religious, sexual or any other inflammatory material in an inappropriate manner may be disqualified and removed. Interpretation of what is, and is not, appropriate material is the sole discretion of Ballistic Media and/or its appointed agents.
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This isnīt against any person or something. Itīs more harmless as in the film "War of the Worlds".

But i need a 100% agreement to use blood in my drawing, so i donīt have to be afraid to become disqualified. I can remove it any time!

Please give me a desicion, if you exactly know the answer...

Sachiel22
05-09-2008, 11:35 AM
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I added a foreground to get the scene into the midground, especially the alien.

Still thinking about props or kind like that. I donīt want to detail it too much, the focus has to be on the characters.

Sachiel22
05-09-2008, 01:39 PM
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I did more colors into the image, so it isnīt that monochrome.

You can see the aliens shield and the liquid skin at the foots now.

Letīs do some details here and there.

Hope u like it so far. :)

MartinNielsen
05-09-2008, 02:05 PM
I think it's a shame you changed the environment. The earlier version was really strong in my opinion :) Otherwise good work.

Sachiel22
05-09-2008, 02:30 PM
I think it's a shame you changed the environment. The earlier version was really strong in my opinion :) Otherwise good work.

I know, i spent alot of time in it, but the mood/atmosphere wasnīt working. For the piece i had in mind i needed a much darker background to support the scariness of the entrie scene and focus the viewer as strong as possible onto the characters.

Btw: theres a third light now, that helps alot. ;)

Thanks!

Sachiel22
05-09-2008, 04:16 PM
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Well here are some zoomed details of the drawing. I also changed the background a bit.

If youīve any ideas, suggestions, critique feel free to comment.

Donglu-LittleFish
05-09-2008, 04:48 PM
Nice color scheme and lovely details! Are you going to add more details in the foreground's dark area (on the left side)? Because it is not clear yet what is happening there. Hurry up and keep it up! :)

Sachiel22
05-09-2008, 06:13 PM
Nice color scheme and lovely details! Are you going to add more details in the foreground's dark area (on the left side)? Because it is not clear yet what is happening there. Hurry up and keep it up! :)

Thanks Donglu,

do you think the foreground is that important for the image?? Maybe a black shape is enough for the eye. But iīll give a try on it, maybe itīll looks better as thought afterwards. :)

Sachiel22
05-10-2008, 10:02 AM
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Here is the detailed foreground.
Hope u like it. :)

Maybe this is my final. I captured the scene i want to and also donīt want to overload it with more details as needed.

What do you think??? Comments are appreciated...

Sachiel22
05-10-2008, 11:52 PM
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Itīs the final image i want to go with, but iīm a bit sceptical about the gun i added. Also iīm going to post the story soon.

Before that i want to know if you feel the image is a bit too overloaded with the gun and the green spot light at the bottom left.

Deadline is close and feedback is most appreciated now! Feel free to comment...

Sachiel22
05-11-2008, 11:12 AM
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A scary contact

An elite team, of seven soldiers and two scientists, was sent to the planet Xar an outer space hydrant of the galaxy quaram.

The mission was to get more information about the vegetation of these unknown landscape. They never expected to get in contact with a new alien race.
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The spaceship experienced a lot of turbulences in the stormy atmosphere of the planet. The clouds were dark as the night and only lightning bolts could define their sillouhuette. If a lightning bolt appears across the ships hull, the whole spectrum of light was seen and the charged atmosphere made havok of the ship's electrical system.

After landing, the soldiers stepped out, secured the landing zone, and let the scientists do their job as usual. It was still dark, hot with high humidity, and the scent of a tropical flower filled the air.

Suddenly one of the soldiers, Jefferson, left his position. He went across to a black stoned wall, where he could see the outlines of a big cave in it. He walked into the cave, but there was noting: nothing to see and nothing to hear.

He turned... *Crackle*... sunddenly a noise.

His electrical suit began to fluctuate. There was a little discreet light at the edge of a stone. He looked through his weapon visor and saw something, that looked like a little torch, only as big as his shoe. It walked directly to the soldier with itīs froglike legs. It prepared for a big jump.

*bang*......*pop*......


The little thing was shot.

*Crackle* Another noise echoed through the air.

Jefferson walked into further into the cave and saw some stairs that seemed to fly. His suit started to fluctuate again. He went up these stairs and saw a bigger light in one of the recesses. It pulsated a while.
He got frightend as he saw a tall, slight, and limpid body with itīs three arms. The light started to pulsate faster and faster.

A noise, like from an old monitor that was just turned on, resounded through the cave. The situiation escalated...

*bang*... *bang*... *bang*...

The bullets never hit their target. The weapon and the suit collapsed with a magnetic flash all over, that went off the round screenlike monitor. The muscles of the soldier began to shiver and his environment seemed ethereal from one to another moment.

The alien came across Jefferson, gripped him, broke into his mind with itīs third arm, which came from itīs back, and reflected a world of chaos and destruction.

It speaked with a slow and light voice: "Human, we know you as well." The monitor came closer and he saw his face mirrored.
"You will always infused foolishness, if you canīt control yourself. A primitive species as you will never understand the entire world as we do. You are always looking for answers and i got one for you.

Donīt spare our world with war and death, this planet is our home. Now, leave and donīt come back again!"

Suddenly Jefferson stood in front of the dark cave. It seemed nothing had ever happend, like a dream. He ran as fast as he could to his team mates.

He shouted with a frightend and winded voice: "HEY! HEY! GUYS...LETīs GO A W A Y FROM THIS PLANET... N O W."

The team listened his story. Steven, one of the scientists, said:"Donīt worry man, you're just hallucinating, there is nothing, nothing on this whole forsaken planet! The strong magnetic fields are blending our minds."

Jefferson:"No! They are here! Iīve seen them!"

The whole ship began to move, first to the right then to the left. The sky turned into a blue, yellow, wafted light and their suits started to go crazy. Their faces filled with shock. Lights everywhere, thousand of white dots on the horzion and between the hills
started to flow up like a town, which was fallen into night with a scary noise you never will forget. They were surrounded...

nwiz25
05-11-2008, 11:16 AM
congratulations on your final entry!! love the reflection and vibrant colors!! good work! :thumbsup:

Sachiel22
05-11-2008, 11:30 AM
congratulations on your final entry!! love the reflection and vibrant colors!! good work! :thumbsup:

Thanks nwiz25!

Iīm happy i could participate on this great contest. It was a very excited experience for me. I hope u like the story behind this image. Iīm not a book author like Mr. Brin, but this is what just came up to my head.

Unfortunately i didnīt took the time to comment more other artworks here at CG. There are alot of wonderful ones. Iīm trying to bring myself more into this forum, maybe the next contest will be much more communicative... :)

Anyway, good luck to ya all! And those, who are still working... keep on it!:wip:

Cheers,
Toby

yakonusuke
05-12-2008, 12:16 PM
Hey Tobi, congrats ! You've done it! Now you can spend your time in the sun... me not, yet :argh:
I think the arrangement of the great amount of effects make it i little bit hard to read. A agglomoration in the main part and an not too dark background have had helped.
But well done and good luck to you!

maykrender
05-12-2008, 12:57 PM
Nice lighting! I like your story.

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