DWIII - 2D - calyx - Aveolae

[calyx]

I started on the Aons first, because i have a rough idea of them in my head.
Started with some serpentine like forms..then it got a little crazy.

I'm roughing another page now, will be posting it later.
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_Aon1s.jpg

[calyx]

Moving a step back to very very rough and loose sketches to explore and get generic ideas out of the system. Did them while sitting back a distance a little, and let my hand do the job without getting in to too much details..

Am still wondering whether i should work on a creature or a humanoid. And the Aons, legs or tentacles..


More sketches to come.


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_roughsketchess.jpg

[Rezeroth]

Calyx!! yes!! now CGS team is complete with your arrival!! All hail Goddess Calyx!
Your sketches...LOL!! they look so like you!!.... i mean like what you would draw.. its so Calyx every stroke along the way.. T__T *pat pat.

I'm digging the concept, and honestly i like ALL the explorations on the sillohuete piece All ya hear me!! :D.. I personally like the one on the top left. Elegant and slender.. curves..lots of curves >< but i think lots of peeps have been working on stuff of that sort if ya know what i mean..

Here's a thought, i think it would be wise for one to retain a certain amount of um...familiarity in terms of physique and anatomy coz ppl will usually look at such element to judge standard/quality. So we can all go crazy with distortion of physique but it must still look familiar in a way. One more thing.. this might sound contradicting to what i just said but give the character some "crazyness".. could be anything like detailing or physique..exaggerate it a lil (it's easier to create a "WOW" result) I guess all and all its just finding the balance in between but it is in between what and what that we need to know..
Sorry im getting a lil drunk.. but yar balance, like what we always say.

As for time, i think its not too late but time is still short so make the best of each time you work on it ya!! (cheh..like im any better..lol) So dont get too carried away with exploration.. KK.very long already.. ganbatte!!! I'll be watching.. say, maybe i'll send you some reference in your mail.. jah! Go go!!!

[Rezeroth]

Btw...have you seen this? Can you remember her? i think your strokes and her's are so similiar.. o_O?

Gatlingg DWIII (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=234&t=608855&page=1&pp=15)

[calyx]

WHAT! Please....no, nono...Please take that comment away, it makes me shrink in shame.

Been busy? Garabath has not progressed for a little while now! I hope all is good at PF~


Thank you very very muuch for your replies and all, though i admit i'm not too sure what you're trying to say, sorry >< Is it because some of the sketches look so loose and almost random (i'm finally breaking out of my neat-freak factor :D?) that they are unreadable? If so, i agree and am aware of that...but i figured what matters most is that i understand what i'm doing, because i'm trying to input-output the fastest possible since time is running out..

Though anyhow, i've decided to go for something similar to the top left figure as you mentioned :) So thanks for your feedback! I've done some sketches yesterday, but i'll only post them tonight after i rough them out a little in colors.

Thanks!!

[calyx]

Gatlingg? Yes i remember her from CA.. looks like we both have the same idea about the fish too lol ^^; Though i trust our renditions in the end would be different.


GARABATH

[BryanLie]

I love your e sketches. Those really show your skill. YOu got a lot of ideas there. I like the tentacled type better than the legged type which i think that's what you chose based on the draft. I'm not a big fan of the top left one in your first draft though especially on the face area coz it reminds me too much of one of katsuya terada's creature. Great work so far, It's only a week left. I started late too so goodluck for the both of us.

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My DWIII (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=234&t=615987)

[Blaschke]

Great research, you've got a hugh imagination, I hope you will find enough time to finish it!

[AxelAlonso]

Hi Calyx,



I like the loose concept of the silhouettes, mostly the ones that are some way taller they pop better for their presence maybe its all about the size in this period of sketch you are going through, Even so I think my favourite will be the girl in the top left corner, and the monster in the right corner to the bottom hehe! All look good though! So cheers and let’s get over this war!:twisted:

[Rezeroth]

Sorry if i confused you.. Orz LOL..just trust your instincts and go with it.. All the best!!
Say, you're aware that you need to submit your final works here right? just to let you know incase. Join the War (http://www.gameartisans.org/contests/events/join.html)

Me? Im busy but still working on Garabath... but..im just very confused lately..espcially when i saw this.. T___T http://cgland.com/dominance/index.html?dwmode=wip&dwmodes=view&part=2d&no=1157

Gatlingg.. yea.. you are more hardcore-ish >< but i just cant help it sometimes..when i see her works.. i thought it was you in some other identity...@__@ im getting weird...

Anyway!! keep those cool stuff coming alright?! I'll be updating soon..

AVEOLAE...you have a liking for names that starts with the letter A? :)

[walrus]

Really lovely, stylish sketches! It's hard to make out the details on the second sheet - what about posting them larger? - but on the first sheet, the top left and bottom left are both my favorites. Good lcuk picking one and finishing everything that you need to get done in the alotted tome.. you're going to be very busy! Good luck! :thumbsup:

[The Flork]

i like everything your doing in the first page! stick to that direction! seems like every one tickles around with stuff like that but then they never follow threw :-(
be the one Calyx.... be the one! haha

[calyx]

More really quick sketches towards the humanoid direction yesterday, and then got these heads done. I'm not sure if i like them all that much, feeling rather distracted now due to a stomachache and lack of sleep.. but i have told myself to make sure i keep on track (though i wanted to do coloured thumbs of the heads initially..), so here is the update:


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_humanoiddraftss.gif

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_headdrafts.gif

What do you all think? :)

[calyx]

BryanLie- Thanks for your comment and input! As you can see, i'm working more on tentacles than legs now..or something in between. And yes, good luck to you too! It's gonna be one crazy but fun week ;)


Blaschke- Thank you there, all the best to you too!


AxelAlonso- Thanks! Yeah..i did notice how scale and placement on the paper makes one or another more prominent somehow :/ But oh well. And yes, let's all fight to the end!!


Rezeroth- Yup, i've "Joined" alright! Sure hope to make this great. And hey. don't let Garabath die just like that..don't be demotivated, challenge what you see! Keep the fire burning! Definitely have an eye on your thread ;3

Liking for names that starts with 'A'? O_O Really? I never noticed...why do you say so? Aveolae derived from 'aveola' actually :D


walrus- Thanks walrus! I quite like that two you mentioned on my first sketch too :) Thus, my attempt to incorporate those ideas into the head designs.
To war, till the end!


The Flork- Lol! I think you have a pretty unique idea for the war too, keep it going~
I'll get back with more replies on your thread :)



Gonna k.o. for now.. not sure if i can handle something tomorrow because i have my 3D uni work to do, but i'll be sure to check in. Thanks everyone for your comments and encouragement!!

[hampsty]

Awesome works Carlyn! :) I can't wait to see your finals on this, I honestly don't have any critiques for you although I already told you what my friend thought. But for now it's still focusing on characters time!

Your works kicks ass and you come up with the best descriptions ever! (And thanks for listening to me ramble bull craps so much... sorry too! ^^; )

[GreenArrow]

This is coming along nicely!

[Rezeroth]

LOL!!! i'll definitly fight till the end even if it means not having enough sleep. I'm quite close to completion actually just trying my best to refine the Winning pose as much as i can (knowing that i have crapy painting skills, crappy compo, crappy light mood sense) But i'll give it my best..

Calyx,..5 more days to go, we should all plan well and plan ahead so that we dont trip over our own feet at the end.. O_O(granny nag)

Your entries are coming along very well, and for the heads..i like the first one..like fishes on her/his head.. quite unique if ya ask me though im not too sure what to make out of those curly swirly stuff on her neck..Oh and i like the fangs on the 4th head..cool looking. The 2nd one reminds me of the "parasite" im working on for PF.. :D LOL But its all good.. The 3rd of course looks the coolest in my opinion.. but maybe others would be more unique and new.. Dunno la..if you have a special liking for one, go with it. No need to think too much.. time is not on our side too anyway..

AEONS? whats an aveola? i though you got it from aloe vera LOL!! Oh dont forget the artifact weapon yar!! ><

[The Flork]

I like the idea of the parasite thing being as big as she is like int the far right character studie. thats neet

as fot the heads, i like her face on one but the rest is to girly fantasy for me haha, On 2 i like the idead of the jelly skull, as well as the stringy angler fish tentical things and also think it has the coolest tail. over all i like 3 the best! on 4 i like the swirls and mandables. mix them all together ftw haha

[Nennad]

Hey, hard to point out best version, but had number 3. wold be interesting.
But as i said hard to tell... all of them are good, pick one where you can get best inspiration to go forward!

[walrus]

For the design of what goes around the head, I like #2 and #3, the other 2 look like they've got roses or some kind of flower around the edges, which seems odd to me. In fact, I think the creature reads most clearly on #2... but for the face itself, I like any of then except #2. Skulls have no personality, if it's going to be a woman, let her at least have a human(ish) face. Just my opinion though. Good luck!

[AxelAlonso]

Hi Carlyn, :)

Thanks so much for the feed back!:lightbulb
I really like the faces 1 and 3, they seem to have the best personality for a character with some evil powerful magic background, and also the head design ornaments fit her perfectly! The 2 and 4 they look really cool but are hard to relate for me, personal opinion of course! Can’t wait to see the color one! :arteest: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)

[calyx]

Been a packed past two days due to school work, sorry.. I appreciate all the feedback, and did this rough orthographics shortly after going through all the posts. Did this alongside with other scraps of papers where i scribbled alot of random notes and design elements, and had this roughed in the end after.

I'll describe more on my next update, which should illustrate a better idea of what i want done!


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_orthographics_s.gif

[calyx]

hampsty- You're here! Thank you for even coming by.. you're always so prompt and generous with comments ;_; *gives you mochi (oops i took yours.... will buy more!) And what bull crap, silly! If anything, i was talking crap with you too!

GreenArrow- Thanks!

Rezeroth- Oh yeah...Didn't manage to keep to my schedule the past two days though.. *disappointed.. i'm trying to move quicker now.

Don't pressure yourself with so many things at a time.. keep the progress up, and post when in doubt! It's easier to move on and improve with people giving input and suggestions, especially if you're stuck. And...most importantly, stop beating yourself up!! *nag back! We all have our strengths and weaknesses.. we just have to keep practising to better what we are not pleased with. This applies to me too!

As of my entries.. i quite liked the first for the fish idea too, and although it may not seem like it at the moment, i'm gonna try integrate a part of that idea in my final design here. The curly swirly things.. i'm not fond of them either, but..yeah, was just trying some random motives. 4th head, yup, but in the direction i'm planning to head, it probably may not be too suitable. Still thinking.. The 3rd was my favorite, and i'm basing off it, though the color stage will tell more clearly what i'm thinking later on..hope i can execute it the way i have it in my head. And lastly, the 2nd one...lol, you mean that small creature for the FMV we worked on? Loll~ Andd no, no aloe vera..that is quite random! Aveola is the little sacks things in your lungs..google it up!

Artifact weapon... think i mentioned it on my first post that it would be my Aons? ><

[jttruong85]

Nice character design. I like your shading technique as well.

[calyx]

Flork- Thank you for the input, Flork!! I'm definitely going to try fuse the ideas and see what results from the mix. Fusion ftw alright!

npantic- Thanks! I'm basing off the third overall now, as you can see in my rough orthos, but will be adding elements of the others to it :)

walrus- Thank you, noted all you said :) I agree with you on the skull here, i realized it after drawing that. Didn't fancy the "roses" myself, and am definitely scrapping it.

Good luck to you too!

Axel- Thank you too! I understand what you mean, and i personally liked the first and 3rd most too. I'll work on the colors shortly!

[calyx]

jttruong85- Thanks! I did not use any brush though, mostly light pencils for proportion drafting, ink over it, and photoshop for further edits (to match all views).

Thanks again :)

[Rezeroth]

The sillohuette is great now though i think something on the shoulder would help break the triangular shape of the sillohuete. The end of the tail seem a lil big and heavy for the current width and thickness of the whole tail. Maybe a lil smaller..dunno.
LOL..just keep up the good work you.. 3 more days.. Ganbatte! ;) Bai!

[Rezeroth]

Aveola?Oh yea..the lung stuff. Obviously i did not pay enough attention at schoollike how any normal kid would >< I did goggle it up... found lots of weirdy stuff.

[AxelAlonso]

Okay! The shape does have many fishy features, although she could perfectly say it comes from her mother side? so I think she could fit in any ground, I also see some bat wings on her back, will she be able to fly as well, if so that will be cool , like a flying mermaid fish! I love that! Oh boy I can see it finished this will be cool to watch!:D

[calyx]

Alright, here's a happy post from me-- i've more or less nailed what i wanted. In the orthographics Aveolae may appear rather rigid and hard, but i know i didn't want him/her (androgynous? More she, i suppose) to turn out so.. 'dead'.

My first few drafts i was thinking that i wanted to work with profile views for the winning pose due to the Aons silhouette, but i decided they all weren't 'loud' and didn't have enough characteristics, and decided against it. Did several other small super quick and messy sketches all over the place... but i didn't like them. Until i did this 2nd one, and i felt much more content.

I think i managed to capture Aveolae's persona i envisioned, of whom was trapped in the dark seas for the many many years, and is now free again to unleash her powers. On design, i'm not sure if it's obvious at this point (it should be after i add colors) but i wanted her to have natural and organic elements enveloping her, instead of any armor, ornaments and et cetera with the logic in mind that she has been imprisoned in the waters, and that they weren't all that intelligent creatures.

On composition, i tried pushing a dynamic pose and exaggerated some parts, and i quite like how it turned out :) Am now wondering about the background..i have some rough ideas, but hmmm.


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Carlyn__Aveolae1.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Carlyn_Aveolae2.jpg

[calyx]

Rezeroth - Thank you! I did try adding something by the deltoids, but they look too...purposely-added-for-design u_u and i scrapped it.. I didn't want Aveolae to look too err..'unnatural', if you know what i mean eep. As of the tail, yes, i agree! Taken into account..i didn't pay much attention to it initially. Worked it :)

Ganbatte to you too!
And lol on the aveola :D Well..i remember i quite liked the name so....


AxelAlonso- Hi Axel! Well Aveolae will compromise of firey elements (original state) and watery elements (fish/fins) because of the Aons, although overall she is still a fire creature as i mentioned in my first post XD And nope, those aren't wings, those are fins actually..i hope to make that clearer when i render it in colors :) She does sorta float still, though.

Thank you for the support!!

[Rezeroth]

Wow..im digging it. I love the fact that you used lots of bones everywhere, makes it feel like she's partially dead but not decaying zombie sort.. I'm crazy about bones lately so it s just a personal opinion.. On her pose, maybe you could try tweaking her left arm a lil..it seems very stiff/straight. bending it might compliment the overall cuvy-ness better i suppose..LOL just a thought.. and maybe the right hip looks a lil big? maybe try flipping the image? I found lots of mistakes on Garabath that way ><.. Time's running and stop pulling your hair..you'll look weird~ LOL!!

edit: oh yea..maybe some moss or something that grows on her would be cool. It'll add up to the believability of her living in some damp place for quite a long time.. LOL..maybe...

[Nennad]

Hey, it would be interesting to see to what you will come up in the next 1,5 days in a final picture, as time is mercylessly passing! I moticed you mentioned the background... i advise you to focus on character... background - something abstract, or near to abstract ? Because she is full of details and - there is no time left! Good luck!

[AxelAlonso]

So fire and water body type it is,:wise: and they relay on their eons! Hmmm :curious: I like all the idea, ;) Just be sure you wont have a problem for rules, I am sure it doesn’t since its only body type, and not exactly element user type, About the final shoot, I really like the idea of her looking down from her shoulder as in your original sketches and face studies, then again she does represents well the dead body look with out adding zombie style in her, she also has some good composition body type ,for war, and fire inspiration forms, I am looking forward for the color version!:rolleyes: GREAT CHARACTER!:applause:


Hey Thanks again for the feedback! You are a great mate to relay on this war!:D

[The Flork]

awesome dude shes looking creepy! onthing i might add would be fins or horns or something on here head to fan out and blance how wide the hips are.

[calyx]

Oh god....time is running out.

Here are some color experiments...there are some crazy ones (like the psychedelic one) leaning towards the last few now. Didn't like the red ones especially..the Aons look like her hair and she looks like some generic hot babe superhero sort. So....yeah.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_sketchpose-colprev.jpg



Trying my hardest not to loose hope now...

[Rezeroth]

There's still time. Go go go!! You have my support!! (sorry i cant be of much help T_T)

p/s:Dont be restricted by the CGS colours if it does not look good..

[calyx]

Rezeroth- thanks for the crits, i tweaked her and threw in the colors :) TIMEEE

npantic- thanks! Yup time sure is running out... good luck too!!

AxelAlonso- thank you! About the elements, no, she will only be from one elemental class.. i'm just saying that the Aons will look rather water creature like since they came from the waters, that's all :D The war is coming to an end.. all the best to us all!!

Flork- i altered her proportions a little.. not too exaggerated now i think :/ Keeping in mind about the fins/horns, thanks! (noticed btw, that you're from AAU? :))

[calyx]

Whoa Mun, you sure are fast! AND I see you have finished! I got to accelerateeeeee

I'll get back to yours soon enough, let me just get one out of the three submission requirements done! You're so sure by the way, that it doesn't have to be a 1000x1000px now?


Thank you again for the support and encouragement!!

[walrus]

Hmm, lots to choose from. i like the dark blue background better than the light tan - the former feels like you put in a dark background, while the latter feels like you didn't get around to a background. And the dark colros set a ncie mood. Overall I like the top row best, before you got itno wild colors. The red on the far right pops really nicely against the blue.

The one comment I have about the figure is that the upper thighs and hips feel far too large for the rest of the body. They don't necessarily need to be scaled down. I suspect that even just lengthening the midrift section, pulling the upper body away from the pelvis, would look really coola nd deemphasize the scale difference.

Anyhow, good luck!

[Rezeroth]

Uh.. Alex Novo said this on my thread :

Alex Novo:There are max 1000x1000. so it mean that you can do 1000x700 or 700x1000, but not more then 1000px via both sides.

So im gonna still stick to my dimension(which is not square) ><

Good luck! I gtg now coz i need to meet Mr. Hing now lol..check back either later or tmrw. You take care and Good lucks!!..kk byes! *throws you a giant clover! Bai!

[calyx]

OKay... Here's a little update which i honestly am not very happy with. I'm starting to divert from my original idea. Worse still, i'm wondering why i chose this direction to begin with.. But all in all, i joined the war to have fun and i did, and i would still like to get this done to the end!



http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_Aveolae_colortest.jpg


What do you all think? Any feedback is appreciated!

[calyx]

Walrus, thank you. Your comments were invalueble, all taken into account. I also went for the third on the top row as you mentioned, and worked my latest color (test) from that..though.. argh. I'm feeling a little blinded now, gonna take a break.

[calyx]

Mun, thanks again! For a while there i was thinking of the creatures we worked on for the FMV project... ): Kinda miss it. I wonder how are you all progressing?

Look for Mr.Fyreantz at toa too!

[The Flork]

i actually liked the cgs colors on your chick! the one with black hips and red legs.

but this ones cool too! more astral plain-E feeling.

i might ad some longer tenticals on the right to keep the s curves going!

and yeah! i go to academy :-D still waiting to take all the cool classes, just been doing ge's and basics haha

[hampsty]

The pose is really beautiful, I really don't know how people like you handle poses like this that just looks natural despite it's somewhat complicated positioning. If you get what I mean. ;p You are a little too hard on yourself some times, I feel. Take it easy and seriously, worry less! Chiiilll. As for your original idea, I think you can still go back to them when you get the time to. :) Not for this war, though. Perhaps get more prepared for the next war.

I don't suppose this is done yet? I'm rather liking the background and those effects you have created for the background characters. A great addition to it because I kind of am getting the feel of how the character would actually be like if in a game/ movie. I would really like to see this gets more refined though, in the sense of materials and form. As well as the light direction and the like. I think the blue around her (background) can be toned down a little more so she don't seems to blend into it... Either that or she can be a little more brighter, bring out the contrast ! :)

[calyx]

Oh my, got to get to the modeling sheet and concept art pages.. Will refine this if i have the time..also wanted to try something. Thanks Flork and Hammy, i'll be back for replies shortly!

Edit: I changed the bottom area a little..tweaking the flames a little. Will post later.

[calyx]

I've submitted! Thank you for all the support and crits everyone!
On a note to self though: I'm proud i got it done, it doesn't matter what happens next now :)

To War, next year!


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_CarlynAveolae_colorfinal3s.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_calyx_aveolae_conceptsheets.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/paperclover/DW%20III/DWIII_calyx_aveolae_modelingsheets.jpg

[calyx]

Flork- Thanks for the comment, and yep, i did add a couple more tentacles. Went for the blue-red thing in the end :) I'm hoping the fire pops now!

I'm from AAU too, what major are you in? :) I'm a 3d-Game Arts major!

[calyx]

Hammy, thank you! Yup i understand.. though i believe it's time to go back to my Max project lol. Do wanna chillll first alright!

The earlier wasn't the final, just posted the final :) I did keep in mind what you said from the beginning, wanted it to look like it's in a scene...though i didn't pull it off completely with time constrains. Did kick the values and colors and such..and my main focus at a point was to pull of that fire/lava inside her body. I sure hope it's much better now.. Though i definitely don't want to get into a war with 5? 6? days left at hand like this again.

Thanks again!

[hampsty]

@_@ Your presentation skill + sketches all together... Beautiful. I'm gonna beat you into starting early next year so you don't have any regrets on last minute work again. :| Regardless, YES you should be proud of yourself for finishing this in time. :) And whatever happens next doesn't matter, the fun of it is what does it. Though aim higher next time, you are only stepping into the water for now.

Best of luck! ^^/

[The Flork]

Flork- Thanks for the comment, and yep, i did add a couple more tentacles. Went for the blue-red thing in the end :) I'm hoping the fire pops now!

I'm from AAU too, what major are you in? :) I'm a 3d-Game Arts major!

YAY we did it haha, im so glad its over hahah but im gonna miss havin something to do haha
i think offically im game arts major, but im gonna switch to illustration someday hahaha so iv been taking ill classes.

[Alex Novo]

Cool work, cool presentation, my congrats and good luck!

[Rezeroth]

Darn..guess i missed all the action. Mr. Faiyar Antsu? we meet him up quite often these days..for dinners and such..there was a night that me him and haozilla went out for dinner and we talked a lot about um...stuff. Tell you when i see you next month. KK back to DW..your entries are awesome(nothing new)...I love the presentation on your model and concept sheets..so cleeeaaannn... gosh. As for the final, im glad you made it(but) . Well done.. Loving the colors, very hypnotic but i do think the skull thing that shes holding on her left arm is not quite clear.. maybe it's just me..but you know how i suck at giving comments and feedbacks so... Thumbs up!! ;)

Really glad you made it...Really..woohoo.

[AxelAlonso]

Yay! you made it , her power its so awesome! and the hues of light look great for fire! all her design add so much in her besides the color ( that's great)! I really like it all ,and like you said the best part of this it's to finish! :applause:

Thank's for all the support! Congratulations and I wish for the best !:thumbsup:

[calyx]

hampsty- thanks a lot...definitely would work twice as hard the next year, because i want to. I'm still shocked i joined at all this time with the time left.. and yeah :) Perhaps you'd join too?

Flork- Ah, really?! That is what i thought of doing too.. but i still am not sure. Are you in the graduate or undergraduate program?

Alex Novo- thank you :)

Rezeroth- Again, stop saying such things! >:( Your comment counts, and yeah i think so too..but i just didn't want to make it stand out too much too. Time was a factor too, of course u_u Yeah, i'm very happy i got it done at all.. i thought i'd be disappointing myself by not joining the War..but i actually made it to the end, and it is an incredible reward, that feeling of accomplishment :) Though... i admit i would not have done this design as the final given more time, if i could turn back time.

AxelAlonso- Thank you. I tried really hard to push the fire idea, and i'm hoping it 'pops' a lot more now, to make her fire element obvious :)

I wonder when will any hint of the results be announced!

[Rezeroth]

Calyx! its a job well done!! dont be so hard on yourself, im very sure time was a huge huge factor so just gettint it to the finish line is a big thing..I know what its like ;). Even like Bakat Baru...you know.LOL I know, you know its not your ultimate best coz we've seen you done stuff thats phenomenal.. I have my reasons for saying that too, its not just a praise ;D.. Anyway, this is very good already you know. *poke

[The Flork]

haha yeah im happyer! i get to draw in all the classes haha. im just a wee little undergrade :-D

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