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richardjoly
03-26-2008, 02:04 PM
Well well...
Everybody seems to be waiting for the other guy to enter... So, I'm in!

I participated in project Phoenix and found the experience extremely profitable. I learned a lot. This is the perfect place to hone your skills as every participant will share knowledge and help you out for whatever problem you encounter.

My image will depict a person (this will be my personal challenge...) standing beside a vehicle (obviously...) on a balcony with a futuristic city in the background. Everything in the style requested by the challenge.

Sketches will follow on the appropriate date.

Come on guys, lets get this rolling!

yhloon
03-26-2008, 04:21 PM
oh Richard, I thought I will be the first to participate, you are one step earlier than me! Errrrr!! :)

Vizfizz
03-26-2008, 05:35 PM
Welcome Richard. I'm expecting good things from you. Good luck in the competition.

richardjoly
03-31-2008, 02:55 PM
Welcome Richard. I'm expecting good things from you. Good luck in the competition.
Thank you Brian.

Just trying to get a sense of composition and a color scheme, I would like to convey the bright and joyful view of the future they had in the fifties. The vehicle will be a One Seater of a sort. The lady will not wear a fish bowl but some kind of helmet...
I hope I'll have time to model her, never done that before...

Welcome to Loon, David, Miguel and Captain Dick!

Reuben, Charles, I hope you join us. What's the expression? The more the merry?

Nice sketches guys! The more reference images I see, the scarier it gets... So much extraordinary artists out there...

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/YesFutSml.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/YesFut.jpg)
http://www.rdn.qc.c%20a/Yesterday_Future/YesFutSml.jpg

miseka
03-31-2008, 03:26 PM
I like this sketch too, now i post mine... good luck....;)

DickM
03-31-2008, 05:37 PM
Nice concept Richard!

yhloon
03-31-2008, 09:15 PM
Richard, that's a great! :)
are you going to model the city too?

richardjoly
04-01-2008, 02:10 AM
Richard, that's a great! :)
are you going to model the city too?

Yes Loon, I am. I'm trying different concepts right now. I need a couple of high details buildings for the front and several with lower resolution for mid and back.

I'm looking for a "How to model a 1945 futuristic female" tutorial for Silo2...
That will be my real challenge...

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/FrontSml1.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Front1.jpg) http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/FrontSml2.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Front2.jpg) http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/FrontSml3.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Front3.jpg)

yhloon
04-01-2008, 02:59 AM
well Richard, you are fast! and the buildings looks great!

richardjoly
04-01-2008, 03:08 AM
Thanks Loon. The trick is to forget sleeping for the lengh of the competition. It's only seven weeks...
This model is made out of simple forms, sphere, cubes and one extrusion. The stairs are a "one clic" feature of FormZ... so I'm not that fast...

miseka
04-01-2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks Loon. The trick is to forget sleeping for the lengh of the competition. It's only seven weeks...
This model is made out of simple forms, sphere, cubes and one extrusion. The stairs are a "one clic" feature of FormZ... so I'm not that fast...

Jajaja This is true, im not sleeping nothing...

Great towers.

mike33
04-02-2008, 02:25 AM
Thank you Brian.

Just trying to get a sense of composition and a color scheme, I would like to convey the bright and joyful view of the future they had in the fifties. The vehicle will be a One Seater of a sort. The lady will not wear a fish bowl but some kind of helmet...
I hope I'll have time to model her, never done that before...
...

http://www.rdn.qc.c%20a/Yesterday_Future/YesFutSml.jpg

Great design Richard... wouldn't mind having one of those for the commute to work.
Will it have a side car option? I'm the daycare dropper off parent for my 2 year old...
not sure strapping her to a wing would meet with my wifes approval. :)


cheers,

Mike

richardjoly
04-02-2008, 02:36 AM
I'm sure your 2 years old would have a blast strapped on the wing...!

richardjoly
04-15-2008, 04:30 AM
OK, I have to work a lot more on this if I want to finish.
Been quite busy lately so my project was put aside. I worked a bit on my paint and whatever the vehicle will look like once finish, it will be red and manufactured under the name Solo Jet...

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/SoloJet_Logo.jpg

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Car_paint_test.jpg

miseka
04-15-2008, 03:55 PM
The logo is typical of year 40, i like im remember the film CARS...

I like see you model of the car... ;)

Bye

DickM
04-19-2008, 04:34 PM
Hey Richard, I love the logo!!

Great job! :buttrock:

richardjoly
04-29-2008, 06:02 AM
Finally... My final Scooter concept (it's about time...)
http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Final_conceptSmall.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Final_concept.jpg)

I'm also fighting with Silo... A little tutorial, a little modeling, another tutorial, a bit more modeling...
http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Silo_SoloJetSmall.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Silo_SoloJet.jpg)

The lady in the original sketch got sick. A real bad flu... So she will not be in the final image. This will give me more time to finish the ?$#@! thing... I'm so far behind, I think I will clone myself...

richardjoly
04-29-2008, 06:13 AM
Now, My scooter is far from finished but what's work without a little fun...
This is my first landing attempt... We can almost see the wires...

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Landing.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Landing.mov)
Clic to view animation

miseka
04-29-2008, 03:20 PM
Very good, i think that the scooter is crahser ! ;)


cheers

frogjackson
04-29-2008, 11:55 PM
Gerry Anderson eat your heart out ! love the incoming flight movement Richard but watch you don't scratch that gorgeous paint job !

richardjoly
05-03-2008, 05:41 AM
Thanks for the comments guys, always appreciated.

I love Silo! Wish I started learning it earlier...
I miss a bend tool or maybe I didn't find it. I can't figure how to make my windshield easily so i will probably do it in FormZ. The bumper will be replaced, I don't think it's the right style and anyway I don't like it...

Silo modeling snapshot (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Silo_part2.jpg)
Test render of scooter (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/SoloJet_part2b.jpg)
Test animation of scooter (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/SoloJet-Part2.mov)

edecker
05-03-2008, 11:55 AM
Very fun scooter Rick.

Not a bend tool but in Silo you can go into Vertex Selection Mode and use the soft selection and grab an outer edge of points and move those to create a bend.

Cheers

richardjoly
05-03-2008, 03:33 PM
Thanks for the tip! I am modeling with a printout of the Silo help... Very slow, but fun. So easy to create shapes I would have no clue how to make in FormZ.

ediris
05-16-2008, 03:29 AM
Where do you get time to do all this work? SIlo snapshots,Rendering ,movies.
And still have freetime available. :)
Nice work RIchard.

Edgard

richardjoly
05-16-2008, 04:55 AM
Thanks Edgard. Freetime? Look at what time I post my work...:eek:

I'm still modeling the scooter... And still learning Silo. I hate bumpers!
Hard to find time to work on the project. I think I'll skip lunch... I'm too fat anyway...

I did some lighting tests and this will be another challenge...
I will certainly use GI but IBL...? How the heck do you get nice shadows with that? :banghead:

Time to go to bed before the wife comes and kick me. Again...

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Lighting_small.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Lighting.jpg)

Black-Box
05-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Rick,
IBL (ADAPTIVE SKY MAPS) can work really well, and there are a few things to be aware of. The first is that color balance is strongly effected by the image you use. So you may have to de-saturate the image to get colors you expect. The second is that IBL works a bit differently than normal sky maps in that the rays are calculated more densely for bright spots on the image. This means you can get noise coming from the dim areas depending on howe the image is oriented.

I posted a pretty useful image for IBL with this tutorial.
http://www.eitechnologygroup.com/forums/viewthread/486/

If you photoshop away the sun, and use a standard light with GI set to normal and GI RI set to 1, you can get good results with out having to align the IBL. Also using a standard light with IBL or any GI sky lights seems to reduce the noise.

Good luck,
Yon

richardjoly
05-16-2008, 06:29 PM
An extra-large all dressed thank you to you Yon!:thumbsup:
You posted this tutorial in march!!? Where was I? Sleeping again...?

(hush mode on)
Lets hope the other contestants don't see this information, that will give ME the edge...
(hush mode off)

richardjoly
05-27-2008, 05:43 AM
I should consider the SoloJet model finish. I'm quite happy with it as my first Silo "real job".
Wonderful tool! Now as I will not have time to model a city background... I'll have to find a way to present it. A showroom maybe... or is it already used...?;)

We still have many many minutes to complete our images...:D

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Small_Jet_final.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/Yesterday_Future/Solo_Jet_Final.jpg)

AVTPro
05-27-2008, 07:13 AM
Really Hot. I'd like to order one for my garage. How much ? :)

edecker
05-27-2008, 11:32 AM
Nice job Richard! Love the typeface on the side also, very much in style.

Eric

miseka
05-27-2008, 03:55 PM
Hey richard that is a change... yes ! :cool:

I like very very much. I agre with your new front of the solojet.

Congrats !

PD. I happy of encounter to you here too.... thk!

yhloon
05-27-2008, 04:54 PM
very nice design Richard! it you make one I will buy one! :) what is the top speed?

richardjoly
05-27-2008, 08:03 PM
Thanks guys you're a great bunch!
Alonzo, I thought you didn't drive in the city... Of course "jetting" is better...
Predicted price in 1945 was 5000$ (in 1945, house= 4600$, car= 1100$, salary= 1300$...)

Eric, the typeface is "SF Americana Dreams"

Miguel, I completely remodeled the whole front... I probably have the worse loops ever seen in Silo... You have to start somewhere...!

Loon, I built two but they already sold... Top speed? Stock, 350 Km/h. Modified, supersonic but you are not allowed to go over cities... It is recommended to change the plexiglass windshield to the transparent aluminum one...

mike33
05-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Nice Work Rick.

Looks like we definitely have a good race going here between you, Miseka ,yhloon, the Capt'n and Eric.

Cheers,

Mike

richardjoly
05-30-2008, 08:45 PM
Finally... This is my final entry.
Raytraced GI, HDRI, 1 light, Fog pass for Depth of field.
Many thanks to Yon and Ian (sounds funny...) for their excellent tutorials and to all participants for their encouragements. Big applause to Brian for setting this up:applause:
I learned a LOT!

http://www.rdn.qc.ca/eias/Yesterday_Future_Final.jpg (http://www.rdn.qc.ca/eias/Yesterday_Future-Final-Large.jpg)

miseka
05-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Ole ! that a beautiful pic and color, Its impresive...

Here is posting a great jobs... very congrats

Great render...

cheers

Miguel

Black-Box
05-30-2008, 09:11 PM
Wow! Rick, that looks great. I love the way you pulled the whole concept together. Especially the roto-dial-a-rent. Fun.
Yon

PS Who you calling funny?

yhloon
05-30-2008, 09:15 PM
wow Richard, nice image, I like the colour very much, so refreshing and crisp, the idea of dailing enter code are never heard before! :applause:yor are an artist with successive of great ideas. :)

Good Luck!

ediris
05-30-2008, 09:48 PM
¨Rent a Jet¨:) cool

AzOne
05-31-2008, 01:53 AM
Great work, Richard. I love the 3D toon look.
Another image that needs to be in the EITG gallery.

mike33
05-31-2008, 03:59 AM
Really nice work Rick.

You had a great concept and final image.

Please reserve 2 Rent a jets and a side car for my 2 year old.

Thanks and congrats a job well done,

Mike

richardjoly
06-01-2008, 01:54 AM
[QUOTE=Who you calling funny?[/QUOTE]
Ian, of course...

Sorry guys for the late reply, I had some sleep to catch up with...
For those who participated, you know it's hard to find time for such challenge so, some nights had to be cut short...

Thanks you all for the nice comments, I really appreciate it.

On a sadder note, may I say I am really disappointed that we got only 4 final entries out of 9 participants. Well I guess the timing was not there, family things and real work took the upper hand.

AVTPro
06-01-2008, 03:12 AM
Excellent work Richard. You always do well in these competion. It's a full image with a story. Rent a jet. Great use of the geometry by duplicating the vehicle The modeling geometry has great form and appeal.It In some ways I could be more technique detail, to move it away from the fantasy but the fanstasy works too. Maybe tubing at the handle bars but the fins on the jets make up for any loss of detail with very nice rounding. Excellent detail with the use of texture. Signage and logo design is on point, says it all. Great composition. Very Good work.

richardjoly
06-03-2008, 01:17 PM
Thanks Alonzo.

I added a larger version: http://www.rdn.qc.ca/eias/Yesterday_Future-Final-Large.jpg

Every time I learn something new, I grow and it becomes easier and faster to do what I used to do. But the more I know, the better I grasp the magnitude of my ignorance... So, I have to start the whole learning process again to get to the next step... Why is it that I still love doing this...?:hmm:

AVTPro
06-03-2008, 03:03 PM
Thanks Alonzo.

I added a larger version: http://www.rdn.qc.ca/eias/Yesterday_Future-Final-Large.jpg

But the more I know, the better I grasp the magnitude of my ignorance...

You said a mouth full here Richard and very well put. I wish said it. I just learned some new things this morning and what you said expresses exactly how I feel. Humbleness is not only becoming but exalting when ignorance is renewed by the magnitude knowledge. Working in Maya's hypergraph is like a bird's eye view of the whole scene. Hope EIAS rethinks the core like this one day.

Speaking of learning new things. thanks for posting that "bigger picture". Your sense of humor "rings" through in that old fashioned phone dial. haha. Great being able to zoom in and see the tiny details.

edecker
06-03-2008, 03:45 PM
Great final result Rick. It really is a very fun image with the colors and overall composition.

Nicely done and congrats!!

AVTPro
06-03-2008, 09:07 PM
Ian, of course...

On a sadder note, may I say I am really disappointed that we got only 4 final entries out of 9 participants. Well I guess the timing was not there, family things and real work took the upper hand.

Ok guess I should fess up too.

I thought I had a number of hard and heavy assignments looming on the green light this month so I opted out pf the contest but the storm never hit. It's ironic, my situation is sort of the opposite of last contest and others in the forum this year.

Of course I'm not tiddling my thumbs but I would have liked to use the contest to sharpen my saw as well, especially with Nurbs modeling. Well I have putting my extra time to good use...making silly YouTube videos...haha. J/J

Getting the rigging I need done. :) More post coming soon.

Anyway, the real challenge for most of the professionals here is not doing the work, or using the tools, or producing great work, t's all the other extenuating circumstances around a deadline.

richardjoly
06-06-2008, 05:21 AM
Contest rules demand that I share my shaders and materials but everyone already have them for I used only standard EI stuff, no fancy shaders. I made a mockup of the solojet project with greatly reduced maps for anyone curious about the setup. It's still over 8Mb. You can download it here:
http://www.rdn.qc.ca/eias/Rent_a_Jet-Mockup.zip

Again, thank you all for the support.
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tjs61822
06-20-2008, 02:04 AM
Great job Rick. Nice details in your work as usual. Ready to reach out and dial that "rent a jet" code. Amazing that you used only standard EI shaders. Bravo, well done!

Tim

richardjoly
06-20-2008, 02:17 AM
Hey! Nice to hear from you Tim. Thanks for taking the time. You are right, there is a lot we can do using only standard EI Shaders. For the simple training video animations I do at work I have never used anything that didn't come with the CD...

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