car :Formula one

[Maya Ayanami]

is it just me or is the render somewhat dark. I can barly see anything. can you post a brighter render. but then again it is prolly just the monitor im using

[Signal2Noise]

It's not you. Maya. The render is kind of too dark to make out the details.:shrug:

[tyio]

i guess i miss the dark effect...

[tyio]

such a boring game...

that was an ferrari, i 'll put the tex later, tkx for trying (and posting)

[Maya Ayanami]

I have never seen this type of car before so I dont know hhmmm cant think of the word to use.

but of what I see it is pretty good.

but on your renders you have way too much negative space for uploading your pictures directly to cgtalk. take that out so there is just enough room for the car to fit. and how the heck did you get such a big res on those things while still keeping the 20k limit. all of mine are all small and stuff. but I usually use a free webspace to save bandwidth and serverspace for the really good artists.


are you done with the model or is it a wip. cant really tell. unless you dont want the stearing wheel and things like that than the model looks complete. hope to see an update soon

[tyio]

no,no, it's a wip, i continualy change many things on it, but the mainframe is done at 90%, (remain a piece up the cockpit...)

Also, i have try a web site to put more res on my pic, but it didn't work, so, i have to stay with my poor res...

i have tex the wings and tires put windows crash :surprised

[tyio]

with some part textured...

[Nando3D]

is ti Ferrari or BMW Williams??

Look like Ferrari to me... I was trying to model the BMW Williams 2002 season but I never finished,...

looking good , can you show wire

nando

[sniper-x]

getting better keep it going and add more detail....carbon fibre is ur friend in an f1 car...also member all the little things count!

[tyio]

it's a BMW williams FW25, it's the aerodynamic of the ferrari but the wings are from Fw25.
There are some details that i have already put them... (next pic)

I also made the helmet of JP Montoya (my favorite driver), good avatar Nando !!

[tyio]

and now, if i ask you to guess ?
There are many textures bug..:annoyed: but, i begin to look like something...

[tyio]

there are also some specular light bug due to mismatch with the blue...

[EighthDecay]

wow you quick,, just seems like a second ago it was really in the beginning stages,, very well done looking

[tyio]

small update about rims and bigger res

[tyio]

noone like montoya's car:cry:

I would like to put it on a scene, if anybody have some picture of an real track (without the car), please.
Or if you have some C&C, give them,unless i 'll make ferrari F2003Ga, the frame look good enough, i (personnaly...) think.

[Maya Ayanami]

take a picture of your driveway and after your all done with the compositing you can show you "new car" that would be fun.

anyways lookin good. awsome textures. but the front of the model looks kinda weird. and and every little thing no mater how small into your model. the more you add the more realistc it'll be. ofcourse this isnt entirely ture but for most cases it is. it really depends on the subject.

[sniper-x]

wonderfull i luv f-1 ur into it too? that kool keep posting man keep them koming!

[tyio]

:bounce: TKs all (two...)

I think i must change a lot of thing, the front is weird, but i have good print, now, i can saw that i will be obliged to change many many parts, bad chance...

but, if you have some good idea about the little details that could be increase the model :thumbsup:

[Maya Ayanami]

check out the front page. someone did a formula-1 and it is very well done. infact everyone at the begining of the thread thought that it was a photo it was so good. I dont know if it is the same model and everything that your trying for but they all seem the same too me. and you should just check it out anyways.

[tyio]

I already see it, it's the ferrari F2000, it look very good but i don't know how he get the picture effect so, i have to make with my own...
Also, my car it's the FW25, the 2003 model of the Williams BMW, in fact, for the texture and the wing, but i will remediate all the thing

[tyio]

finally, i have an web site where i can put an higt resolution of my car, take a look !!

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/tyio2.JPG

[tyio]

the old one but with an better qual
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/tyio3.jpg

i have remix all tex but no render yet, sorry

[Maya Ayanami]

hey wait. dont post just a link. use the image tag.


cool. this thing is shaping up quik

[katon]

looks great dude i wish i could help. i am bad with cars. i dont know one car from the next. cant wait to see it comp on the street or somtehing. that will be cool. peace

[tyio]

here the wire frame, not very clean

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/wire.jpg:surprised

[Maya Ayanami]

your mesh looks really messy in that area on the body it is right above the left tire. do you have a non 4 sided polygon there cause thats the only reason i can think of why that happens when you smooth it out. other than that it looks perfectly fine.

just a little while ago I saw a really nice render of a car that someone I know did. although it may seem small it really added to the reallism if the render(just my opionion.) do you ever notice those really really small scratches on the car but you can only really see them in certain positions when the sun or other light soruce is shinning on it. damm. thats really kind of confusing. once i find the picture again ill post it up here so you can see what im talking about.

[Flash FROG]

Wow that is awesome, it looks exactly like a formula 1 car.
I especially like how you made the tires, they look incredibly real and life like. The textures on the car are awesome too. you should add some reflecive scrach kinda things to the paint so that it makes the car look even more real.
:thumbsup:

[tyio]

i don't understand the mean of "scrach", an new F1 must be" tje most smooth than possible ?

Maya Ayanami :please, post the pic !!

[Nando3D]

Hi Tyio
As you can see I'm montoya's fan as well
Great job i like that car is great

:applause:

Nando

[Nando3D]

you don't need "scrach", on the car... new car every race.. the look new every race,
Tyio i got lot of pictuers, F1 pictures, I could help you with a background picture if you want.. Good luck

nando

[tyio]

between montoya's fan we can undestand !!!!!:applause:

tyio@wanadoo.fr send me picture !!!

[flipper kun]

you've forgotten one of the most important things on a formula one car:
the fuel tank on both sides.
add it please , for the rest :buttrock:

[tyio]

i hope you will miss this details :annoyed:

Sure, i have to make some details, and some adjustement for texture and modelling, (muffler, )

But, i can say that the pit are on the left for this setup of the car :thumbsup:

[Maya Ayanami]

all cars have these kind of scratches no matter how hard you try. my friend recently go a new paint job and he takes really really good care of his car and there are these kind of scratches all over the place. im not at my computer right now is I dont have the link to the persons site right now.


but with this render it really did look real(with an exception to the leather parts, cause he said he didnt spend much time on that part) however small they are they really add to the realisct aproach cause one would think that not many people would add something so small.


but then again I might be give it more credit than neccesary. I'll try posting the pic tonight.

[tyio]

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.html?http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/030512131239.shtml


look the last montoya's stupidity, in france highway

[Maya Ayanami]

this isnt the pic but you can see what im talking about.
its on the hood. next to the suns refection.
and please only look if you need to. im getting this from someones elses site and I dont want to be the cause of their bandwidht beign all used up. although it is just a single pic. these things can add up you know.
http://www.room201.net/mustang.jpg

you can kinda see them. doing this in my opinion will greater increase the realism of the render. but only if you already have a good deal of realism in your materials and textures and lighting and so on.

[tyio]

i see what you mean, but an f1 is smooth like liquid, that's the goal !!

I have to make another light setup, put i didn't have my scene yet !!

[dominicqwek]

hey. saw your first few pics. love the colours. im not really a fan of f1 cars but it looks cool to me. :)

Keep it up!:D

[Nando3D]

tyio check your email I send you a picture..

good luck

[tyio]

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/FW 25.jpg

some textures bug update

here the big res pict with most powerful brazil render (about 300ko...)

[Nando3D]

Tyio you can use this picture as back, I think is good

http://www.f1racing.net/es/photo/upload2/VCdfaUWLGgFFb.jpg

chao

nando

[tyio]

this one is perfect !!!
i'll try to implant the car !

[tyio]

ok, someone have a tut about scaling and matching camera with pic :banghead:

[Maya Ayanami]

I think that all you do is move rotate and scale until it looks good. well thats what ive heard. i dont think that you need a tut. but maybe im wrong

[tyio]

no, it's not easy to have the perfect alignemnt with camera, i try to follow the track with the floor and goto vanishing point put the car look to much floating under the real floor...

[tyio]

after the new aero of the Fw25, i'm remodelling , here the mainframe, no render cos 3dsmax crash each time i launch it, i have to reinstall...

please note the piece upper the muffler (i saw it today, when montoya blew out is engine ...) and the nose restyling (that was maya said...)

[tyio]

here the some update in high poly, the nervure on the air box, the cup upper the muffler and the nose relift

please quote the thing you think could be increase
:thumbsup:

[tyio]

here two update, the wheel (100ko) and the frame with all the feat (200ko)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/caisse notex.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/roue.jpg

[Nando3D]

nice looking wheel..
why did you change the textures of the car? is too dark now, i preffer the BIW model..

good work

nando

[tyio]

don't worry, i'll use the same texture, it's just that i havn't any time to reedit the mainframe for my texture (i have to select part of the car to apply good texture to good place), i have put this color just for the render !!

[HCompston]

I might have missed this in the thread but are you workinh from blueprints? If so where did you get them?

I did a search and looked on suurland but with no success. Might just be me not seeing the wood from the trees. :)

[tyio]

sorry, i just use picture of JPM 's car and for good proportion, i use

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/jpm.jpg

but it's the pic of the FW24

[chengfu]

:thumbsup: wonderful

[HCompston]

Thanks.

[tyio]

here the last update, i have to work on texture and wing model

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/essaie1.jpg

[tyio]

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/Montylr.JPG

here the last update again, if you want version with jpeg compression, (350ko), email me

[digimice]

Hi Tyio,

its good to see that someone likes the same car as we do. This is our version.

Chris



http://www.digimice.com/Galerie/newsbilder/MontoyaCollage.jpg

[tyio]

i have already cry when i see it for the first time, thanks, but your's have incredible texture and lighting, i can't do that (i done mine with 3dsmax5)...

If you could give me some explication of your car, i love Inside Formula, that why i would like to make Montoya's car !!, to make him some virtual pole !!

If it's possible (you work for a team...), i would like to see your tex ?, mine isn't clean at all, i made one of side and one of top and i apply by select side poly and top poly... That doesn't look good ...enough and i just want to know how you did it, what uvw mapping do you use...

Thanks a lot if you can, and thanks to make me cry another time (but you, you havn't the cup upper the muffler !!, watch the tv !!:thumbsup: )

[Nando3D]

Hi Chris
I love your design of the FW25 very nice, well done.
I like all the pictures on your web site, really nice Work, have you done any animation?. would be nice to see them.


nando

[digimice]

Tyio,

that is very nice what you have written !! Of cause we like to help you.

We didn´t texture the car with UV. Not very handy when you have a sub div model. Also the branding is changing almost every race, so we keep all brandings seperate. Its a multi, multi, multy layer texturing. Over 325 layers of brandings, effects, gradients...

The bluepaint isn´t just blue. You have to fake the metallic effect. Extremely hart in this case, because you apply easily the effect also to the white paint. So you need a lot alphas here. Then apply a gradient effect appending to the camera incidence angle. This way is much better than Fresnel effects or BRDF effects.

This car here is made with Newtek Lightwave 3D. Here you can see a screenshot from the texture layers.

Of cause we look all Formula 1 racings , we are extremly hardcore fans. I know every screw of a Williams F1 racer. But I built one FW25 version of the car and thats it. (Professionel job) It would be too much work for me to update the car along the whole season. So we use one shape, there may be one day I build some more details. I like this car so much !

Best greetings from our team, colleague !

Chris

http://www.digimice.com/Galerie/newsbilder/screenshotcgtalk.jpg

[digimice]

Thank you very much Nando3D !!

We did many animations. Go to this link and you will find some :

digi mice - Inside Formula Animations (http://www.digimice.com/galerie.php?tkey=16&typ=1)

For 3 years we create Formula 1 animations for Allianz and Williams F1.

We are working on our english website already, I hope you and others become a new visitors on our website for the future.

Greetings,

Chris:

[tyio]

That FANTASTIC !! !! ! !! ! !

Never man post is work when i aks him, :love:

Thanks, but i can't see anything;) , the compression cost blur !!

But i understand some little thing for texturing, i'll wil make the deep color and put the sponsor after with alpha !
But, if i can ask !, i didn't found any pic of the rear wing implant with the main frame, could you put the wire or a pic with this view ?

How many light did you use ?, i don't know how lightwave work (and i can't afford it:annoyed: ) but the realism of the pic you have just post!!, :cry: If only i could opten this realism, but i'm using 3dsmax with brazil and hdri, if you know some tips...


Another fan of montoya? or Ralf ?, (me : montoya !)

[Nando3D]

well chris i must said the animations are great, i really enjoy the video when montoya is laping on the curve and the pit stop..

very nice thanks for sharing

ARRIVA MONTOYA

Tyio have you seen the movie Drive.. nice FX when the formula 1 crash and flies over the track, I'd Love to do something like that

Keep working

Nando

[digimice]

Ralph is nice, Montoya I like more, I like his temper.

I didn´t understand the question with this rear wing implant ? What is that?

For lighting I use a lot of light. In this picture about 20. Spotlights with shadowmaps. Build a dome round the car, than rotate the dome by 720 degrees render with motion blur and a camera shutter angle of 50 %.

Use this link to learn more :

Meni Things (http://www.menithings.com/main.php?action=how&how_id=13&manual=1)

Lightwave is MUCH less expensive than 3D MAX !!!

[tyio]

you think driven ? , with stalone ?, yes, it's made with
3dsmax !!

[Nando3D]

yep Driven... Max 3.. unn very good slow motion animation..
By the way montoya is in the film just one shot, when he was raicing for formula 3000....

Chris let us know when you finnish with the english version of your web site..

nando

[tyio]

i think the part between the bottom of the car and the rear wing, the segment, the piece who make the wing glue to the car ? (en francais : le support) the resort ?

sorry, i already buy 3dsmax, i can't afford lightwave... but his it better than max ?

[tyio]

here an upgrade for lighting, !!
I would like to know if you could post some view of the engine part whose not cover by the frame (mean gear box...), did you take reference pic by you own ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/Montylr2.JPG

[Nando3D]

Tyio nice avatar :thumbsup:

nando

[janabsolin]

Yo! Verrrrry goood:applause:

[janabsolin]

Nando3d nice avatar too:thumbsup:

[tyio]

i can't work on my car before next week, i'm sorry, but i have a lot of work !!

[Nando3D]

well let us know when you get the next upgrade..

good luck

nando

[tyio]

for the car, i'll change many thing about aero and texture, with separation between parts, i think i have to make a scene too...., but next week!!!

thanks follow my post all!!

[tyio]

umh, a little, i'm borring, i use new lighting setup !

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/montylr4.jpg

[tyio]

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/montyllr.jpg
other lighting setup, the floor is hugly:p

[tyio]

here another update, with new rear wing support, and some tex bug repared
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/montycam43lr.jpg


click here for better compression (near 500ko !)
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/montycam43.jpg

[tyio]

remodel all suspension clutch, hub, air cold sys, and the rear of the car, note the new rear wing clutch.

Color is just for test :scream:
also, not good sampling, sorry (7min render time !!)
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/test.jpg

[tyio]

here a clay pic, with all new spechttp://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/clay.jpg

[tyio]

and for Montoya 's win !!, the new version of fw25, full susp and wing real !!http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/montymonaco.jpg

[papillon]

anybody knows where can i find blueprints of f1 cars please?

[tyio]

take a look on previous reply on this post, i already post them

[tyio]

I have remodel all texture, for better implantation and now, there are no bad reflect anymore (i hope )

I still have some texture to do, like theseparation of different piece but i think, it will be better to modelize them,


what do you think is th better way ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25.jpg

[tyio]

here new update, some texture update (thank christof ;) )

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw251.jpg

[EricCartman]

To be honest, I don't see any differences going a few renders back :(

[tyio]

all render change, i promise:shrug:

I hope with this one, you'll be able to see the change


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/monty2.jpg

[Lukashi]

I think its a nice model, but u need to work on ur lighting to bring it the next level, good luck!

[tyio]

some lighting test, please quote this you prefer.

The first (with entire car) is just with direct and indirect light
and the second one, with a hdri map in environment, but i have a little bug with the reflection behin the mirror, but it's the same colour ?

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/lig1.JPG
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/lig2.jpg

[tyio]

hello everybody...(chris :thumbsup: )

New light and some little pb increase positively, i hope !!

Unless the rims, i just have minor thing to move now

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25v6.jpg

[tyio]

here with new rims, 2003 version (but not yet textured)


C&C are always wellcome

http://membres.lycos.Fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25v7.jpg

[Nando3D]

Hi tyio long time...
I really like your car is getting better and better , the only thing is you need to update the front wing, like this

http://www.schlegelmilch.com/New/images/0147/0310-13-1.jpg


http://www.schlegelmilch.com/New/images/0148/0310-27-1.jpg

good luck

nando:applause:

[tyio]

here the new pic, with deeper blue (more realistic ^-^), and new front wing

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25v8.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25v81.jpg

[Nando3D]

yep is looking more realistic every time...
You need to fix the rear wing and can you post other views..

great job

nando

[tyio]

what wrong with rear wing ??

[Nando3D]

spot the difference??


nando

[tyio]

i can do it, but, i think it's only for put downforce for special track ?

[tyio]

first scene, i now making the soror of bmw, the f2003 GA, for race action

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/scenefw251.jpg

[ChaosCommand]

This stuff is amazing, i hope to see more!

[tyio]

if you want to see more, the new bmw version and the F1 2003 GA


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw25v82.jpg


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f12003v31.jpg

[Nando3D]

Tyio this is super.. I really like it...

WELL DONE, :beer:

Nando :applause:

[tyio]

this is the ferrari nando, the same JP Montoya send into flower:thumbsdow

[Nando3D]

It is relly good Tyio,,,

Animation coming soon? Love to see the cars on the track.

Nando

[tyio]

i'm begin the renault now, so, prepare the race track:thumbsup:

[mora]

your car is absolutely gorgeous.You might want to make the cockpit a little roomy though.From your render it seems a little tight..I might be wrong,but heres a top picture of the cockpit.see if the distance from helmet matches

[mora]

oh yes and your radio / telemetry antenna should all be positioned in the center of the nose

[tyio]

thanks for you sharp critic:thumbsup: (2003 season's car, no more telemetry antenna anyway, the other have to be center, you'r right:) )

[edmundw]

this is superb.... Your F1 car is getting better and better... I'm also about to start building an F1 car... I love Ferrari and hope to start and finish my model soon... heheh... Great job... Keep it up... Post more pics...

[mora]

after looking at the last silverstone race however I realised your rear wing is incomplete.I'll see if I could get a picture of it.There's a slight curve under the wing,it's not technicaly thin.But nevermind,they keep changing the aero dynamics based on track so the car keeps changing,..like the front wing,when it was released it was rather straight like your first render,now its more curvy.

[tyio]

you talk about Bmw or ferrari ??

That 's the pb with F1, there change everyrace so, it's complicated !!
There are also the weather and the downforce caracteristic of the track to take in count, but, the rear wing is bad on both car, the implantation with main frame, i didn't see it !!!

If you could post some pic mora, could be nice :thumbsup:

i'm working on :wip:

[tyio]

new shot of the ferrari :
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f12003v4.JPG
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f12003v41.JPG

[mora]

cool car,sorry I cant post the pictures,because I'm somewhat confused by the car setups.

If only there was some sort of explanation and pictures on how the cars should look like on each track:hmm:

Is there any chance to see a NO-Tobacco sponsor Ferrari? :applause:

[mora]

http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2003/team-williams/diapo_114.jpg

slightly different setup,but from here you can see the curve under the wing.I think the curve is standard.they just change the height and position of the bar when needed:shrug:

[tyio]

here the ferrari without any tobacco sponsor:beer:

i also see the "virgule" under the rear wing, and in fact, they put it if the track as big straight line ; and i just see it for bmw and renault, the ferrari didn't use it ,

i'll remediate this for the bmw, thanks mora (hope the car is up to you for sponsor now :thumbsup: )

[mora]

hey great work! but a little question, Shumi's or Rubens' car? :thumbsup:

[tyio]

look the number one !!!!!!

But it's my real name on the side , just behind the head bumper !!

[The Cross]

I love Formula 1, and i'd really like to see the Willams BMW smoke the Ferrari this year.

Why not shoot some footage on a street or bend, and then composite an animated Formula 1 cart doing some high performance manouver. I think your model is goargeous.

[mora]

hey tyio! do you play F1 2002? I'm in the process of making an FW25.I'm kind of late,I just downloaded Zmodeler so I'll have to learn it.I did some research and found the car has a new Budweiser logo.Not sure if its still gonna be there next GP though.And Ferrari's not the only car with shark gills,I think toyota has it too! what am I blabbing about?:hmm: back to the question..do you play F1 2002?

[tyio]

of course !!!
i'm playing F1 2002 !!

Great game, but the car aren't good enought, dommage... They are good texture but the replay are hugly !!, i don't know how they do something as hugly as replay cos the game with tv view is perfect! !, the sound is perfect also !!

Do you know how they did sound in this game, i guess they use kind of syntethisor with distorsion of frequences.... but i don't know the name.

Thanks, i don't know if zmodeler is the best prgm, but you can make car for it (i have some car , enzo, muercielago and they have did with zmodeler)

show me your fw25, and the budweiser sponsor doesn't aper yet !

[danny123]

your ferrari is nice, but prefer this kind:) :)

[Nando3D]

hi Tyio... hi mora
Budweiser is the new sponsor for BMW Wlliams, so the logo would stay in the car for the next 5 years look


http://www.f1racing.net/photo/upload2/aSoeguerCTDQb.jpg

I also play the game on my PC but is very difficult to control the car..:thumbsdow

good luck with the car

Nando

PS just wondering how many Montoya's fan around here??

Montoya's fan:applause:

[tyio]

I have a force feedback wheel; it's very nice to play with !!

Montoya's Fan !!

I prefere the lotus 49 and 49 B (if you don't know, it's the 1967 car, and 1968, the first one with wing !) but the 312tb (i guess it is ?) is cool, but the quality of the picture no !

[edmundw]

I do have a force feedback wheel myself but it's very hard to follow the racing line dont you think so??

Being a F1 modeler (not 3D), I suggest you pick on a single GP and build your car according to that GP and not updating it with the latest setup... You'll end up changing your model every week if you want to keep your F1 car up to date... If you're into Montoya, I suggest you to build the one used in Monaca GP to mark his second win of his career...

I do have a lot of images on Ferrari car especially F1-2000... If you guys need some closeup reference on whichever part, do feel free to send me a msg...

tyio, I've sent you a private message few days ago and hope that you can reply me... Thanks


Edmund

[tyio]

could you send me the ref pic of the f12000 ?, i'm already using the steringwheel of it for my curent F1 cos i didn'"t found a more recent.

I prefer Grand Prix legend cos you can counter steering (contre braquer ?) the car when you acelerate, and now, all game need a traction control if you don't want to get out of track, but i play well...

I already (long time) modelize Monza, craddle of his first victory :! but i live in nice so, the monaco track it's more easy to go, i will go in two week, i'll try to take some pic !

Edmundw, i haven't receive any message from you !!

[danny123]

i think the f12000 had the same wheel as todays cars??

BTW you mean this:)

[tyio]

that GPL !!!!, the best simulation game i have ever play !!

I think there are some new switch on the wheel, cos they have the traction control, but MOMO change it everytime, like all the car setup...

[mora]

by Tyio

show me your fw25, and the budweiser sponsor doesn't aper yet !

heres a little picture,I'm sorry I cant modify the BMW just yet,cos I'm still learning Zmodeler,I imported the car into 3d studio and put it back in the MAS file and it did'nt appear.So guess it only works in Zmodeler.But I did Give Monty some new formula one seatbelts
:scream:

[tyio]

we can export files from .mas to zmodeler, i know, but i didn't know we could use model files, i guess there is a protection

[mora]

we can export files from .mas to zmodeler, i know, but i didn't know we could use model files, i guess there is a protection

sure we can tyio,theres a 3ds export extension.I think the reason why I could'nt use the mesh was because I did not update the file from F12001 to F12002.I really could'nt use Zmodeler at the moment so I'm thinking of modifying Ralph Hummerich's FW24 in max.But I sure hope it can be used in the game:shrug:

[mora]

shit shit shit shit shit!!!! giga shit! I screwed up the mesh and see what happens,it somehow turns into and F1 monster:hmm:

[edmundw]

mora... The picture does look cool to me tho... It's like a 4WD F1 car.... Anyway, I'm currently playing F1 Challenge '99-'01... Do you know where I can download some skin for the F1 cars so that I can have proper tobacco decals??


Thanks
Edmund

[tyio]

you can take them from some sites who make dwl for F1 2002, but the map is a 1024*1024 one and if you want to make it for fmv (like my F1), you have to make them by yourself

[EricCartman]

Racing sims ha?

I started with IndyCar Racing back in 90's :)

Check my website for all the info about racing sims: http://www.bhmotorsports.com

[mora]

mora... The picture does look cool to me tho... It's like a 4WD F1 car....

awww...but by the way it has been fixed.I could'nt update the mesh so I decided to just forget about it.heres a little update where the car is at the same bug area

whadaya think tyio?

[tyio]

i just thing that i can see a lot aof things cos the size of the pic, what do you want to show me ?

[edmundw]

Originally posted by tyio
you can take them from some sites who make dwl for F1 2002, but the map is a 1024*1024 one and if you want to make it for fmv (like my F1), you have to make them by yourself

Do you mind giving me the address of sites providing the map?? BTW, what do you mean by dwl and fmv??


Thanks
Edmund

[tyio]

dwl mean download and fmv mean full motion video (opposite of real time so, many more polygone and details)

go to http://www.racesimulations.com
they have some car to dll and you can pick up the tex, but the mapping is strange and you can't put it on the car (too easy), you have to model it:shrug:

[juntao]

what hdri map did you use?

[ewerybody]

woooarr. Damn. I see this thread for the first time! So I took a look at it from the beginning. For Gods Sake! Never seen so much orthographic-renders :thumbsdow Damn. I thougt I have to puke.
But fortunately you switched to perspectives.

Muuuuch better man! :applause: good work!

[tyio]

juntao-> i used gardenpark probe (and foliage sometime)
If you have pb to find them, email me (but they are weighted)

[fast4ry]

good race of montoya thi week,its one of my favourite pylots,
but the best is FERNANDO ALONSO and its the future champion

mucho alonso!!!!

[tyio]

i already model Alonso's car, the R23 but not finish yet the texturing !
I'm not for alonso but i'm french so i'm for his team !!

Montoya number 1 for next year, i bet !! and ferrari in michelin too :annoyed:

[fast4ry]

you gonna make something once you finised the cars? like 3d race? i hope you post images of renault when finised.

possible montoya wins next year,alonso have hard because the renault motor its to much sloow for win,
only appropiated for some circuits.
i hope schumaker lose all races and never be champion again.
im for raikkonen montoya coulthard and first of hall alonso.

mmm,you can reproduce accidents in 3d with diferent angles .
sorry for my bad english.

[one]

that's neat how u even have shadows on your wire frame...

[tyio]

I wanted to make a start but i don't have a lot of time, so, there are just still pic for the moment.

I hate mercedesMclaren, :buttrock: so i'll never do it, unless for crash ?? I'll see

one-> i don't understand !!

[flewp]

Bah, why does everyone hate Schumacher so much? People bitched because of his domination, but the point of racing is to build the best car and match it with the best driver. Also, if he hadn't dominated then other teams wouldn't have had to really bust ass to compete.

[tyio]

Flewp THANKS :applause: :applause:

[fast4ry]

after i was schumaker fan,but its a pig and a lamer.
ok haves the best car but no the best driver,now the best is alonso.
you only must see the stadistics for comprobate.
and hakkinen was no lucky.

but a like your work,very good texturing.
you gonna work in a old car of f1?
i wanna see the renault.

[mora]

http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2003/hungaroring/diapo_388.jpg

funny picture,montoya looks amazed:D
I'm a alonso,montoya,ralph and webber fan

[tyio]

I' also for webber because he's very clean, and i follow him before when he was on GT

Are you all aware of the tires pb ??

Little sondage for the world champion 2003 :

TYiO-> Montoya JP - Schumacher M. - Raikkonen K. -Schumacher R. - Alonso F.

Just quote and add your mean !!

[mora]

yes the tires,Ros Brawn much like Ron Dennis often bitch about stuff. I think FIA is constantly making stupid rules and always trying to screw teams and limit technology,thats why the teams did talk about a separate F1 championship from the FIA.I hope the cars will get faster,BMW did beat 19000RPM:scream: :scream: :scream: when teams get their own GPs, all FIA has is minardi:D

[fast4ry]

i want wint montoya,but not easy compite with ferrary.
defintly montoya winner.

montoya is a pilot of actionn not like ralph.
im not for alonso because is spanish,pedro martinez and marc genne are spanish too, but arent good pilots in my oppinion.
i think alonso can give a surprise if the car dont fail.
i wish see alonso in a bmw.

1montoya-2schumi-3raikkonen-4alonso-5ralph.

[Nando3D]

if you want to know more about Montoya go to his Home Page
http://www.jpmontoya.com/jpmontoya2002/En/News.asp

Chao Nando

[tyio]

Here the first shoot of my renault, with bad (mean legal??:hmm: ) tires !

need some work again on texture, some patching to do !

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23.jpg

[alexyork]

Very impressive.

I think I must try out Lightwave. From what everyone's said about it it's a great allrounder.

Keep up the good work.

[tyio]

thanks but still :wip:

it's max5 with brazil (for get down the render time) and a hdri map, it don't have opportunity to use lw, but if you know a good reason please !

[wgreenlee1]

Looks like the camera mount is floating above the air intake.

[tyio]

new version

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v1.jpg

[alexyork]

Ah! sorry - i saw that screengrab of LW and assumed you were using it.

I use MAX with brazil, as well... I love brazil. Powerful yet reasonably simple to use.

Anyway keep it up, looking very nice.

[tyio]

here new shot with fixing texture

some work to do about light

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v2.JPG

[fast4ry]

:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:
now in hig resolution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tyio]

voila another shoot, closest than before, with the driver (helmet tex is from the site i give to you before)


which resolution do you want ???
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v22.jpg

[tyio]

first scene
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v3.jpg

[tyio]

new version,more things to change (air box...)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v31.jpg

[tyio]

update

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f1r23v4.jpg

[mora]

renaults are eyeing for 1:10.000 at Indy.Too bad I'm I'm gonna miss the qualifying cuz have to attend a wedding.Remember to breif me on the starting grid Tyio : )

P.S : cool renault model,but I think the tire tread grooves are too deep.I wonder if you're gonna model a track :P

[tyio]

if you want to see more, mora, go to the gallery/finish work forum, i already post some work !

I have modeled the track of monza, all the track !, i have made seom animation, just need to render !!, but there are 510 or 2800 frames to render, and it's too long with all effect (near 2hours by frames), so, i 'll render it soon !

no pb, i 'll notifi you of the grid ! but the first qualif isn't good, the first one clean the track for the other from middle of the starting sequence, and the last had to run while rainning

[bluestar77]

Tyio...

c'est fanstastique! formidable....

[tyio]

etoile bleue, c gentil :) (77, tu es de seine et marne ??)

[bluestar77]

non, tyio. je suis reellement(?) l'Angleterre. L'etoile bleue se rapporte au club du football de Newcastle. je suis ne a '77

Votre derniere image assomme. J'habite aux Etats-Unis et le Grand Prix n'est pas a la television terrestre. :(

Veuillez excuser mon francais faible.

[tyio]

a dommage, votre francais est bon, et c gentil d'avoir fait l'effort !!

The real qualify are 45min left !

[mora]

arrgh! montoya's hopes are lost.I blame rubens,rain,fuel rig.But thanks to kimi for keeping the title alive.I hope both Michael and Kimi DNF at suzuka so monty could win!

[tyio]

He pushes barrichello out of track, he had to be penalty, but the pb for him was to wait 2 laps before taking wet condition tires...

Better chance, next year !

i'll get up early for Motegi race (motogp) and suzuka !, next two week, no for the championnship, but because of fun, the last race was interesting (first time this year, waaah)

[tyio]

MY F1 TUT (http://membres.lycos.fr/letyio/tutf1p1.htm)

[delirium]

hi, do you have this tutorial also in english???

parce que mon français n'est pas très bon ;)

[fast4ry]

injust penalization barrichelo ivades the way of montoya,if schumaeker do this its only a accident of race.
ferrary has formula1 like matrix has the peoople.
i hope fernando alonso goes to ferrary next year,seems its the only way for win in f1, i hope alternative f1 dont be a shit bag like this.

[tyio]

It's not the first time monty put out a ferrari, nurburgring was a good exemple,
The rules say you can overtake if you put front wheel in the middle of the car, but he wasn't here and take contact on barrichello car.

I'm sorry for him, but he's too nervous,


Deririum->>> I'm translate it,

[tyio]

i saw one pic, so, don't have good proportion yet ;)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34arrliss.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34faceliss.jpg http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34face.jpg http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34arr.jpg

[bluestar77]

You're quick off the mark, aren't you tyio? :)
Looks amazing if you've only used one photo.

Does this help? Check the gallery link at the bottom pf the page.

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.asp?id=25638&s=5

[bluestar77]

There's lot of photo's here (http://www.f1racing.net/launchphotogallery.php3?id=600)

[tyio]

GODLIKE !!!!

thanks a lot, this help a lot Bluestar, thanks a lot

[bluestar77]

Not a problem, Tyio. Hope to see how you're progressing sometime.

[tyio]

thanks :)

somes ups

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34faceliss2.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/34arrliss2.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/coteliss.jpg

[tyio]

don't have a lot of time

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/primaire1.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/primairerr.jpg

[mora]

tyio,should'nt you wait till the beginning of the season? because the car will apparently change starting australian GP, and possibly Bahrain will have more mods for the car.But of course you can modify it later : ) nice start,I'm still strugling with my FW25

[tyio]

thanks man :)

but i thinks this car is already near the end, a least for big part, maybe some new sponsor, new exaust or part for increase downforce for special track, but beggin it isn't to early, i hope !

here two up; all part modeled, sorry for the exaust, not smooth it here :), the next part is the rear susp ;)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/test6.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/test7.jpg

[mora]

whoah!!!!! Impressive Tyio!trully impressive http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[tyio]

here a little view with texture, near finish( but not too near :))


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/fw26m1.jpg

[mora]

problem areas on your car Tyio
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/163ZJ4T9939/picserver.jpeg

[tyio]

cool mora, thanks a lot :)

[mora]

tyio as promised heres some toyota references
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/610UM86AY27/picserver.jpeg
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/Z61FMTLY5CE/picserver.jpeg
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/5008ZDZFBI0/picserver.jpeg

Now you can model a Toyota 2004 so Juan Pablo can slipstream

[tyio]

yes, congratulation to have found this pattern man :)

i'll se to make it ;)

[tyio]

here the fist step into the interior of the car, please, c&c ;)

thanks mora, i begin to make the new hub and disk system
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/int1.jpg

[tyio]

a new up, with new helmet and texturing (first part)




http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/entier1.jpg




http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/frontsusp.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/rearsusp.jpg

[Guybrush]

look very good so far, ar u going to do more detail on the engine?...u must also work more on the chromes

[tyio]

no, the engine shouldn't be more detailled,, unless you have an idea of what i c ould enhance precisly ??

Ok for the chrome ;)

[Guybrush]

Its not a BMW, but its an idea...

http://www.svvs.org/goodw'fs3/Mc%20Laren%20F1%20engine.jpg

u should had more detail, most imoprtant the engine block is very simple right now

[tyio]

hi man

The picture you show is a CART, so, not the same phylosophie as Formula one

first, the moteur is a Turbo one, so, it have the blowoff valve on the top so, can't wear the top as my engine.

And the formula one are always very well hide with a cap... like this pic

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eric.evain/images/f1tamiya/fw24/monaco.jpg



but thanks a lot to take the time to show me your pic ;)

here two pic, some ups ,)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/moustache.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/entier3.jpg

[Guybrush]

sorry dude but the pic i show u its a F1, and by the name of it its a mclaren, in the picture u shown, yes t engine is well hided, but anyway i think u still missing some details around the engine block

[SouL]

Where are you guys getting these reference images? I'd like to take a hand at modeling one of these.

I'm specifically looking for orthographic images that describe the front/side/back/top.

What about earlier F1 cars? Like from the 80's - early 90's?

Looks very nice, Tyio.

[tyio]

sorry guy , in fact, i mean old F1 seems to be like a CART ;)

soul, you can see just the last page, Mora has post some print

[mora]

Hello Tyio looking good! wow engine.sorry I havent been dropping comments,I was away.I see youve cut the car.I must stress that the body geometry needs fixing in order for it to look real close to the real thing.anyway,do you have ref on the engine? inner workings etc?

[pete.cook]

Originally posted by Guybrush
sorry dude but the pic i show u its a F1, and by the name of it its a mclaren,

Don't want to start a flame, but I have to disagree. The engine is from a CART car, not a McLaren. As Tyio pointed out, it has the pop off valve on the top of the engine, used to regulate the turbo pressure within the engine. F1 cars don't have turbos. The engine is an 8 cylinder engine indicated by the 4 visible spark plugs, which would be mirrored on the other side. F1 turbos used 6 cylinders. McLaren only ever used two turbo engine manufacturers, TAG Porsche and Honda. And finally, the car has PPG as a sponsor, who are major sponsor of CART.

Tyio: Incredible attention to detail as always. Fantastic work.

[Nando3D]

nice to see you still working on the F1 Car
check this link a pictures of the BMW V10 Engine
BMW V10 (http://www.bmw.williamsf1.com/03-D02493FD5CF3B7F4E81EE1E933F7424C/ms/en/4_serien/41_f1/412_team/4125_motor/index.html)

chao

Nando

[bluestar77]

Yup, that's a Penske-Mercedes CART car - probably from the late 90's.

Looking great, Tyio. Keep going! I think the point at which the nose is attached to the front wing needs attention, but it's a minor gripe.

[tyio]

hi everyone !!

thanks men for comment, i'm very busy this day, so , don't have a lot of time, and i spend some of my spare to write some tut , still there are french, but will be translate :=)

i'm currently also making the scene of the fw26, a little like my r23 one's, not yet the pit line scene with all part out :)

[tyio]

here a little scene, don't have a lot of time (and the render take a lot of this time :))

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/scenebentFw26.jpg

[tyio]

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/scenef26rslr.jpg

hight res : http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/scenef26rs.jpg


and clay version :

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/clayFw26.jpg

[Ztef]

Great, but I think your suspension's a lil thin, this would brake in a second when throwing the car over a curb ;)

[EricCartman]

You think they are thin coz I guess you think they are rods... which they aren't :)

[tyio]

umh, guess you want me to change them :)

[Ztef]

Not if you don't want to ;)
But if you think I'm right, you can do it...

[sabaman]

man tyio, very nice work man, on both of the cars, they look very good man,...

[Zenderquai]

Hi man ;) -

I saw your thread, and while I hate posting my own artwork in other peoples' threads, here - I just finished modelling this about 3 weeks ago,

http://www.neogothic.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Williams%202.jpg

I realise some of the branding has changed since the launch, (I don't think the BUD one is on any more) - .. but yeh - there's my effort.. I did this in I think about 3 weeks, learning how to multi-texture, and harness mental ray, I just did this year's jaguar in about a week to probably a better standard.

it's modelled with LP Mesh, then Smoothed , using multi-layer textures in Maya.. and rendered with Mental Ray (not fun - lots of bugs)

but yeh - hope you enjoy..



Nick.

[tyio]

hi man !!

yeah, nice car you have here, some few details maybe improved (like the nose and some part near the cockpit), but cool anyway ;)

i have made a tut on the multylayer technique on max, don't knwo if it realizable on maya, but you seem to have understand the tech ;)

[tyio]

i quite deless this post, sorry :)

some adjustmnt, about the dynamic :)
and dirt :)


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/fw26salecopy.jpg

[Alles]

Hmm it looks like williams F1 car :)
Cool model, but i think the helmet looks to small, bnut anyway i wont talk so much cause you are way way better than me:

Grats keep on doing a great job!

[Admiral_GM]

Yes... helmet looks a little small... also, something doesn't feel quite right about the tyres... not sure what...

Great job though :D

[tyio]

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/scenecamfw26lr.jpg

high res
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/fw26/scenecamfw26.jpg




ferrari :

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/wiref2004.jpg

[tyio]

up and video

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/tyiof2004.avi
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f20041.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f20042.jpg

[mora]

your car has a lot of errors,

roll hoop wings = too small ,the rollhoop wings is to straighten airflow to the rear wings.something that small would not be worth putting,renault will also have those wings this weekend

No holes = there should be extra hole exiting the engine cover after the fuel near the exhaust

Monocoque nose top = needs to be curvier,need some work near sidepods

Rear wings = wrong wings ferrari have curved base on wings

Wrong monocoque cut = you somehow used your fw26 mesh which also has a wrong cut

Fuel cap = one and on the right side,and a tiny hole on the left.on your car its just weird

T camera= yours is a mistake,it needs a wider center

Hope this does'nt make you hate me,But I'm also beginning an f2004 in the next few weeks : ),for now collecting and still researching refs..good luck!

[mora]

I've sent you an email with ferrari refs,CHECK YOUR EMAIL!!!

[tyio]

thanks man ;)

yes, i don't have good picture, cool you send me somes ;)

for the monocoque wrong cut, i don't see it , where ??, i don't thinks it's so bad for the main frame...

the cover of the fuel trap, ok, but just do a mirror now :), after, ok ;)

ok for rear wing, don't see it before :)

the cam, they change it !!!, i use the lauch picture, no curvation of the rear wing, basic cam:)


for the roll hoop wing, you're right, but just know the max larger (60cm), not enough information, and they adjust them in larger and heigh for each circuit :)


and for finish, yes, you still right for the curvation of the top nose, i have remodeled it 4 times !!, but don't convainc you, ok, now, 5 :)


thanks again man, the critique are really good, so, don't hate you ;)

please, notifiy me when you'll begin your car ;)

[tyio]

ok man, here the improvement,


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f20043.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f20044.jpg

[MaxParticle]

The model looks very strange in places, I think you should try to examine some photographs of the Williams to see where your modelling is going peculiar. Here's a few that should help.

http://www.itv-f1.com/media/imagelibrary/20763_2.gif

Williams 1 (http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2004/imgday/05/18.jpg)

Williams 2 (http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2004/imgday/05/11.jpg)

A page of pics from the launch of the car (http://f1.racing-live.com/en/index.html?http://f1.racing-live.com/en/photos/2004/index_team-williams_01.shtml)

I'm very impressed with your texturing, I'm having serious problems in that area. If you could explain a little about the techniques you use, I'd be extremely grateful.

[tyio]

yes, you're right, the car isn't good enough for compare it with the reality, arf,


the second pb, is that the car evolued with the race, they change they nose, and the air box, some air vent....., not easy to keep the good mix !, i have to be on the move :))

thanks for picture, i have saw that english version of f1-live doesn't have same pic as french version , :=)

and the ferrari, look good ??

[MaxParticle]

I think you should examine the suspension, your arms on both cars are at far too shallow an angle. Also they look far too thin compared with the real cars. Another niggle with your modelling technique is that some of the ultra thin bodywork looks far too chunky - the little wings and the flip ups in front of the rear tyres is a good example of this. The fuel filler cap looks far too small on the Ferrari. Also, check out the airbox at the top of the cars - the area below them is far too flat. It should curve. The airbox intake itself should be slightly thicker too.

I'm very impressed with your texturing, I'm having serious problems in that area. If you could explain a little about the techniques you use, I'd be extremely grateful.

[tyio]

Originally posted by Max Particle

Another niggle with your modelling technique is that some of the ultra thin bodywork looks far too chunky . Also, check out the airbox at the top of the cars - the area below them is far too flat. It should curve. The airbox intake itself should be slightly thicker too.



so, you think the first flap is too thick and the airox too thin ??, ok :)


oula, for texturing, i write a tut for the f2003GA about my tech, but next week, i'll wrote the finishing of my tut on the bentley (you can see it on my web site), so , if yoou have some pb with my first tut, please, tell me in order me to explain more precisly the methode on my next tut

thanks a lot for you to take the time to explain my error ;=)

[mora]

lookin good tyio,you might wanna make the tail lights taller more rectangular,its just too squarish

undertray might need some work its too curvy

your airbox monocoque cut should be 90 degrees,the cut you make is like 45

[tyio]

Originally posted by mora

your airbox monocoque cut should be 90 degrees,the cut you make is like 45


gné ???? :)


ok, i try some render with Vray, arf :)

[mora]

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/X04P2811708F/picserver.jpeg
here check out my so highly accurate doodle : P
You should easily understand,top view of monocoque

http://picserver.org/view_image.php/6017192XT03I/picserver.jpeg
example from my fw25 wip

[tyio]

sorry :)

could you draw it on the car, i don't see where is it :(((

[mora]

render top view of your car and compare with pic

[tyio]

ok man :)

but on the ferrari, it's more curvated than the other car, but you are right, not so curvated

;=)

[mora]

I think Max Particle and I can detect a lot of things in this image
http://picserver.org/view_image.php/NT34N00GGT73/picserver.jpeg
I'm off to my car project see you again,and good luck

[tyio]

first pic with my new computer :D

first texture, not convainc yet :), nottaly for the front of the nose, the tex is not well fit :-(

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/test3.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/test4.jpg

[tyio]

first pic with my new computer :D

first texture, not convainc yet :), nottaly for the front of the nose, the tex is not well fit :-(

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/test3.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/test4.jpg

[grafi]

Very Realistic, I love it!


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http://cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143827 (http://)

[MaxParticle]

http://davidlaycock.co.uk/cgtalk/ferraricomments1.jpg

Hi, first of all, the texturing is coming along great! A tutorial of this in English would be very much appreciated if time allows you.

Onto the crits.

1 - The tyre texture looks very grey and dull at the moment. Time to go hunting for some good reference shots. The tyre you've modelled looks pretty worn out, certainly not a fresh out of the mould tyre. Check out tyres after they've done a twenty lap stint - they can look distinctly second hand. If you're planning for an after race beauty shot, lots of old bits of tyre (marbles) should be stuck to them. If they are new, then the grooves should be far more noticable, along with being nice and shiny, with a coating of releasing agent still on the rubber. Or maybe you're going for a scrubbed set?

2 - The detail I've circled on the barge boards doesn't look sharp enough. It's very round.

3 - You're missing the windscreen. Also, the corners of the cockpit curve far too much a the front and the padding doesn't come far enough forward.

4 - The wing mirrors are in need of fine tuning, especially the parts that extend from the sidepods.

5 - The head protection goes up far too high and needs a bit of aerodynamic fine tuning to look correct. This area looks rather stretched upwards at the moment. Also, there seems to be little balls on the tops of them, rather than the little thin fins to be seen in mora's picture.

6 - this area is still too flat, Ferrari have this area far more curved than the Williams. Again, see mora's picture.

7 - Where these shark fin air vents line up to the sidepods, the corners are too round. The corners should be far more sharp. The whole shape of them doesn't look quite right to me at the moment.

8 - Missing texture.

9 - The white Marlboro texture looks very wiggly along the bottom edge, possible a mesh issue to deal with here?

Have you fixed the fuel filler cap so it's the correct size? I can't make it out with from the angle of the render.

Sorry if any of the crits upset, please don't take any of what I've said personally, I'm just trying to help as much as I can. :)

[joostingh]

The render looks great but there are some faults in it.

1 - the shape isn't right. Some parts are to big and other to small. Look for example to this one

http://racing-leagues.com/gpxcarpainting/albums/album15/ferrari_preview.jpg

2 - The textures aren't right but that can be fixed easy.

Good luck

JW

[tyio]

men, a big thanks ;)

yes, your are right for many things Max Particle, the car is just out of usine, so , tires are new :)
some things i'm not well agrey, for the part behind the head, seems good, i'm making you a big render

for the air vent of the sidepods, yes, what a ****ing piece :), and they change it for new version, now, it's just a cylinder :)



joostingh, the pic you show isn't good for the shape, to much lenght and not as height as the real car, and some part forward the rear tyre isn't good, it's for a game (the part behind the head and in the side too :))

for texturing, ok, i still have some part to do :)

EDIT ///

here the pic in big resolution

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/closf20041.jpg

[tyio]

here three new pic of the car, the front version is the newer (with some enhancement)

now, i'll make your enhancement max particle, don't have time to do it early, but tomorow will be ok ;)

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f2004arr.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f2004avt.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/f2004top.jpg

[bluestar77]

Ouch! Very nice, tyio. Beautiful render, too.

[MaxParticle]

The texturing and rendering is going well, but your model needs much more work. Study these pictures and compare them to your 3D model. Hopefully it will illustrate some of the changes needed.
http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2004/tests23/diapo_108.jpg
http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/2004/tests23/diapo_110.jpg

[tyio]

finally find the way to obtain good tyre :)


http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/testspneu4.jpg

http://membres.lycos.fr/eltyio/3dsmax/f2004/testspneu41.jpg

[jawa9000]

Add more lights, like a 3-point system.
Can you give us a different angle? Something like 3/4 view?

jawa9000

[EricCartman]

Top of the rear wing is bent?

[SimonReeves]

mr cartman makes a good point, i think the front wing needs to have more bend too

nice render btw

[MaxParticle]

I don't think the bend of the rear wing is an issue, as they use different wings for different circuits. If you look at the launch pictures, you'll notice the same bends in the rear wing as tyio's.

But tyio, look at the height of the front wing - it's almost touching the ground. Actually, the whole car is too close to the ground. I can see many changes that need to be made to the mesh, but there's only so many I can point out without being told to fcuk off.

The new tyre texture certainly has potential, but the tyres are looking rather too bright and where they should be dark, they're shining out of the shadows.

[heyJulius]

Barichello's car looks good.