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newmanhyde 03-22-2008, 03:29 PM been a long time i last post, pls critz my camera map.Thanks
http://www.2dn3d.net/gallery/2d/final.jpg
http://www.2dn3d.net/shibuya.mov
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TomasWarren
03-22-2008, 04:04 PM
hi newmanhyde
great work! i don't know what plate you were working from but i think you've definitely 'destroyed' the buildings realistically, it definitely looks like a post apocalyptic city (or whatever the idea is behind it)
I think to make the image really stand out you should consider putting more contrast into the lighting. At the moment it's overcast and definitely has that dead feeling which suits the dark mood quite well, but at the same time it feels a bit flat. I think with some directional lighting and shadows this could really stand out.
As for the camera move, well i think it works well as the city feels 3d, but i personally would leave out the meteors or work on them some more..but i think the city by itself works fine. Also the camera move feels a bit schizophrenic and mechanical as it pans across then up. If you were certain you wanted the meteors, it might feel a bit more natural to start with them then fluidly follow their path down into the city, as the city is obviously the main subject of the matte...however like i said i would just have the city by itself.
Great work overall, keep it up! :)
Rockhoppermedia
03-22-2008, 04:12 PM
Hi I like the idea and the matte is cool, now for the critique. I will put a list in but dont get disheartened I think if you follow the advice given to the letter you will notice a substantial improvement to a good matte.
1 There is no depth of field the foreground elements are fine. It is difficult to judge the difference on the background elements with the mid ground. My solution would be to gradually loose the detail to the background. Another way would be to use a colour tint and desaturate the rear elements look up aerial perspective. Bung some dust or smoke elements in.
2 the background buildings edges are way to sharp you need to introduce lightwrap to the buildings. Lighten up the sky and blend the lights around the edges. The sky is overcast but the buildings are lit for a sunny day.
3 use a lighter sky and put moving smoke elements in it will add a clue to the drama
4 love the birds, mexican wave them. rear to back (stagger groups of birds to fly up background mid ground and finally foreground).
5 the meteors are good, however vary the size of them and try not to animate them as parallel as they are. If you want put a couple of flashes in before they strike.
6 the camera pan is good. have a go at a looser camera pan with a bit of wiggle. It will give it a first person view.
7 on the last couple of frames I would put in a giant flash just as the camera just sees the sky. Then the camera pan would be a story arc beginning, devastion, middle, why are the birds suddenly taking flight and finally a conclusion meteor strike.
I really like this matte and pan it just seems a bit sterile, it needs a organic feel to sell it.It looks like a manga background when it could become a fantastic film sequence.
Hope i have not upset you too much, I am however more than willing to help you through this so dont hesitate to get in contact.
I am looking forward to how this will go,
Lots of respect
Rich :thumbsup:
TomasWarren
03-22-2008, 04:30 PM
birds? are you sure? looked like bits of litter to me...
newmanhyde
03-22-2008, 05:24 PM
Thanks for so many comments. i guess because of the low res of the video debris is mistaken as birds. the main purpose for the exercise is to really make a "full" scene . i agree the meteor need not be there but for the sake of story telling, oh well. if i am going to redo this i will reverse the order , meteor first then building. Its good to see this matte from another eye.Thanks!
everlite
03-29-2008, 05:43 PM
Yeh, need to create a sense of depth and this would be pretty amazing :) maybe add a sutble mist down the streets that gets thinker in the distance, that and a few shadows, again in the distance where the streets are close together.
Perhaps some sutble smoke too.
Dave.
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