Portrait

[Jelo]

I looks proportionally and value wise good but I would recommend that you disable the "spacing" check box for you smudge brush in phothoshop. (You'll find it in the "Brushes" window (shortcut F5) then "brush tip shape" tab. You'll get much smoother smoothing results this way in phothoshop.

After that, to make it look really good I'd recommend to work it over with a harder brush with low opacity setting, preferably having the opacity driven by pressures sensitivity. Use the "Alt" to pick nearby colors and then with repetitive light strokes smooth out the transitions between colors, keep picking colors (Alt) during the process to adjust to the right smoothing color.

[lospeed]

So if i understand well,

i need to bring more colors in my portrait (more darkning and lightning of the colors) to improve the reality of the painting ?

[joeian]

i just try to smooth the pic abit
and then paint the hair..(i know this is toooo smooth lol)
and i found a good tutorial for u
http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom.php?story_id=3174
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/47081/2003595002576165660_rs.jpg

[lospeed]

thank you,
and indeed, it's too smooth
the hair should be more wavy/curly... :P

Thanks for the tutorial, i'll try to update asap

[lospeed]

thank you,
and indeed, it's too smooth
you must know i know that person in real life ;)
and her hair is wavy/curly... :P

Thanks for the tutorial, i'll try to update asap
Great tutorial !

[CybrGfx]

I'm one of those people who abhor the smudge tool, spacing on or off. At best, it is useful as a "mini-liquify" tool at a small brush size, for limited pixel pushing around.

If you are attempting to smooth/blend colors, I find it MUCH more effective to make a selection of those areas you are wishing to blend, and use one of the Blur Filters, either Gaussian, Smart Blur, or Surface Blur, depending on the effect, and amount of smoothing you are going for.

Smudge Tool BAD.

~Cyber

[lospeed]

I gonna try both methods.

@Joeian: how did you enlighten the face so much ?

[joeian]

I gonna try both methods.

@Joeian: how did you enlighten the face so much ?


i use my super secret special custome smudge tool lol

[lospeed]

So... you lighten up the image using only the smudge tool ?

[joeian]

So... you lighten up the image using only the smudge tool ?

no.. click ctrl+L

[lospeed]

@ Joeian (again :P)

how did you create the very soft shadow under her chin ? did you rebrush it a bit with soft brush and then smoothened and blured ?

[joeian]

@ Joeian (again :P)

how did you create the very soft shadow under her chin ? did you rebrush it a bit with soft brush and then smoothened and blured ?

I didnt paint anything on the face, i just smudge it

[lospeed]

ok, now i understand it
you changed the levels a bit ,made image lighter

then smudged and blured a bit to smoothen the image, right ?

[joeian]

ok, now i understand it
you changed the levels a bit ,made image lighter

then smudged and blured a bit to smoothen the image, right ?

yes, u r right, basically

[lospeed]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3499/50350833bi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
This is a first update, i'm following the hair tutorial (great tutorial), and i've lightened and smoothed the face a bit.

Now i'm going to start at the part to create details in the hair. (the hair is a bit to yellowish i think, but i gonna try to fix that a bit in the details part.)

[lospeed]

Another update, i created more detail by making the strands which make the hair much more realistic, i was also able to fix the colour a bit more.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3387/94398293zc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3387/94398293zc8.120a74e2f1.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=504&i=94398293zc8.jpg)

The hair tutorial is amazing, now i finally know after some other, +- bad tutorials, how to create nice, good looking, realistic hair.

I gonna try to bring some more darker strands in the hair to make it look more realistic and some 'points' which come out of the hair.

The only things that are left are softening the face (and bring some more color in it) and thinking of a background or a way to present it etc...

[lospeed]

Ok,

I think i'm done with the hair, here are 3 more updates
I also made the eyelashes a bit more detailed, coloured the lips and eyes more, and lightened the face a bit:

1)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5001/75108738qh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

In the first image I made the little points come out of the "hairborder" + I added some more "volume" in the hair by bringing some locks in front of the other.

2)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/650/96197622xw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

In this update i smoothened the and I coloured the eyes a bit more (you can see some white, light spots in her eyes and I made the lips a bit more coloured.

3)
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5209/43766693yi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

In the third image I finally found the right color for the hair. Something between blond and brown... (most blond)

[joeian]

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/46036/2005489625359950973_rs.jpg


i think the hair longer looks cooler:)

[lospeed]

Did you use a bigger brush to make the long strands ?
because it really looks nice
i like the effect, it looks cool for something 'cartoonish-painting', Ii hope you know what i mean, I can't find the right word at the moment. For this image I'm actually looking for the as realistic as possible way to make hair for this image.

This is another update, i darkened a bit around the hair to create some shadoweffect and i tried to make the hair look a bit longer, but as I said before, i like your effect (great effect joeian), but it's not the one I'm looking for for this picture. And you were right that the hair could be a bit longer (not that much):

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3608/68092413py6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3608/68092413py6.216bdbf607.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=510&i=68092413py6.jpg)

[lospeed]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7412/62752162ts1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)



http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4915/96772147in1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Tried to make the hair look longer in a as realistic as possible way.

[joeian]

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7412/62752162ts1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)



http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4915/96772147in1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Tried to make the hair look longer in a as realistic as possible way.





yes, this is much more better,
i think if the hair is too short, it looks like grass lol

[lospeed]

well, after watching the image (some steps ago), i thought the same,
but just bringing some locks coming out of the hair or making some locks which overlap the face can do very much, i didn't thought of that first.

I think i'm done with the hair now, i like it the way it is now and i think i gonna keep it like this.
Now i can go on to smoothen the face and thinking of some kind of way to present the portrait.

btw, do you maybe have some steps about how to create the hair of this pic:
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/46036/2005489625359950973_rs.jpg
??? i don't know how to start at it

[joeian]

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/48716/2000315283094863507_rs.jpg

[lospeed]

So, correct me if i'm wrong:

you make some strands with a spackled brush
then you make a lock of shorter strands with the same brush (and a bit lighter tips)
and then you place the shorter ones above the longer ones

btw, you use a tablet to draw ?
since you have so smooth lines and atm i don't have a tablet yet :P

[joeian]

So, correct me if i'm wrong:

you make some strands with a spackled brush
then you make a lock of shorter strands with the same brush (and a bit lighter tips)
and then you place the shorter ones above the longer ones

btw, you use a tablet to draw ?
since you have so smooth lines and atm i don't have a tablet yet :P
yes, i use a tablet..

[lospeed]

ok, another update,
i started to smoothen the face a bit (need help with it, i don't know a good technique to become a softened, still realistic looking skin)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3245/24987450ss1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[lospeed]

I'll try to find some pictures how I can explain what kind of skin I try to get.
Sorry for double posting

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=133&t=610801
this is really the kind of skin type I'm looking for: soft, smooth, with some kind of gland.
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=133&t=610326 (a bit like the previous one)

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=137&t=553033
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=137&t=505629
I love the colours which are worked out in these skins (face)

[lospeed]

Hello everyone,
this will be i guess the final update for this portrait for now.
i will start something totally different. Working in this portrait made able to draw pretty nice hair and a human face. But it also learned me another, personal lesson (nvm).
In this update: i made another haircut, the previous update had, how must i say, too much hair... and i tried to create some gloss on the lips. Some other details are less worked out than the previous update, since i restarted from the face.

I've learned alot from Joeian, thanks for this help and suggestions.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7879/84013799dd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I guess it's time to start with another subject.
C&C is still welcome.

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