Adobe's awesome deck of cards

[Per-Anders]

You can do it very simply, just create a bent card and a flat card, put both into a cloner and set the clones to blend. Then use effectors to move the clones around (using a falloff) and to modify the clone value (which will modify how much blend there is between the two shapes).

[LucentDreams]

In fact this was doing using cinema and a lot of Mograph.

And if you get the chance come to NAB in April he'll be there presenting how he did this actual project so you will get all your answers there.

[bocabierta]

Thanks, Per-Anders! I hadn't thought of blending two clones together.

Okay, I've cloned two cards, and I have a step effector moving them up and down. I don't know how to connect an effecor to the cloner's blend settings. Can you help me out?

[Per-Anders]

Use the "Modify Clone" parameter to control which clone is used or where in the blend the clone is taken from.

[bocabierta]

Whoo-hoo! Well, I actually set the clone to sort, rather than blend. That way, I could control he sequence of cards being called up as the effector goes by. Tomorrow is all about tweaking the animation.

Oh, and trying to get a pass to NAB!

[rsquires]

that is really gorgoeus. So was this all MoGraph and cinema4d. If so it's one of the best advertisements for C4D I've seen. I noticed some dynamics in there as well.

This is a really great piece of work, wonderful concept, beautiful art direction, and technically up there with the best.

all the best

rich

[Rantin Al]

I'm getting repeated browser crashes, mainly at the switch to the 'Spades Pirates'.
It's happening on both Firefox & Safari. Installed the latest Flash and Shockwave but still no joy.

Any other Macs manage to see the whole thing? Or is there some-where to report it to?

Cheers, Alan.

[Renderwise]

I'm getting repeated browser crashes, mainly at the switch to the 'Spades Pirates'.
It's happening on both Firefox & Safari. Installed the latest Flash and Shockwave but still no joy.

Any other Macs manage to see the whole thing? Or is there some-where to report it to?

Cheers, Alan.

Exactly the same thing happens to me. I am on G5 Dual OSX 10.4.11

Cheers, Ingemar

[soccerrprp]

Very nice animation!

No problems with Firefox here on PC.

Richard

[51M0N]

Absolutely amazing work. I noticed how it "stays alive" where I place the timeline, instead of being paused. Plays some kind of loop animation instead.

[JustinB]

Great animation and some of the best Mograph work i've seen. Lovely look and feel to the entire sequence. Well done!

Cheers
Justin

[Kokosing]

A stunning piece of work, and a great example of what MoGraph can do. But it feels a bit odd to see this as an Adobe add. Clearly Photoshop and After Effects could have been used in parts of production here, but there's no doubt that a 3D app was the principal software.

Anyway, can't wait to learn more about the process behind it.

Well done to everyone involved.

W

[ChrisCousins]

Ahh, I was wondering if this was Mograph, I thought I'd spotted the delay effector's 'look' in the wobble as the cards slot into place... great ad for Maxon that it is, would be great to hear more about the making of this piece at some stage!

Cheers - C

[tcastudios]

Great work!

Plays (but slow loading atm) fine w MacBookPro/Leopard/Safari

Cheers
Lennart

[LucentDreams]

Ahh, I was wondering if this was Mograph, I thought I'd spotted the delay effector's 'look' in the wobble as the cards slot into place... great ad for Maxon that it is, would be great to hear more about the making of this piece at some stage!

Cheers - C


come to NAB, I'd love to meet you too. :D

funny you mention that I find all the time my fiance and I see things on TV and go oooo mograph but I know a fair bit of it must also be done in other apps like maya, I mean it is standard motion graphics stuff, but we take care in knowing that if it was done in another app we could have done it easier than them in mograph.

[vid2k2]

Plays fine in Safari here. Had to drag the slider
all the way to the end and it just played on.

As soon as I saw the flag, I knew it was C4D.

Very nice, very creative :)

Edit:
Played it again and it crashed.

[Triker]

Plays fine here on Intel MacPro; safari.

[M20]

When is Maxon going to arrange such events for people in Europe? I would love to know more about the technniques behind this awesome clip. Very nice!

[Sycar]

Wow amazing clip! Can we get that on CG Society front page so more people can enjoy?

[danb]

Very nice!

Anyway the making of can be seen without going to NAB?

Anything like this going to be shown in the power integration tour?

[LucentDreams]

he's a full time production kind of guy cna't be travelling aroud on sales tours all year. Maybe they can record it or something but I'm in no position to make any promises on that sort of thing.

[soccerrprp]

Really, though, having a "The Making of..." would be a hit for the entire C4D community. And needless to say, inspirational. I'd buy a dvd of how they created that in a heart beat to have as part of my absent collection of C4D inspirational DVDs:).

It would behoove both Maxon and Adobe to have such a thing available for people to see what is possible and how it's done.

Richard

[M20]

Really, though, having a "The Making of..." would be a hit for the entire C4D community. And needless to say, inspirational. I'd buy a dvd of how they created that in a heart beat to have as part of my absent collection of C4D inspirational DVDs:).

It would behoove both Maxon and Adobe to have such a thing available for people to see what is possible and how it's done.

Richard

Quoted for agreement!

[DaveD]

Am I missing something?

The content is cool but takes foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever to load. And it's not interactive (unless I've missed something) so the decision to make this a slow-loading Flash file instead of some sort of streaming video is apparently solely based on the fact Adobe now own Flash and not out of any consideration to the end user?

If that's the case the presentation leaves me with this impression:

- C4D and Mograph are cool but have nothing to do with Adobe.
- Adobe's only technical involvement with the presentation is to essentially make it "bloatware."

Yeah, that's Adobe's MO these days. I get it now.

[danb]

Am I missing something?

The content is cool but takes foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever to load. And it's not interactive (unless I've missed something) so the decision to make this a slow-loading Flash file instead of some sort of streaming video is apparently solely based on the fact Adobe now own Flash and not out of any consideration to the end user?

If that's the case the presentation leaves me with this impression:

- C4D and Mograph are cool but have nothing to do with Adobe.
- Adobe's only technical involvement with the presentation is to essentially make it "bloatware."

Yeah, that's Adobe's MO these days. I get it now.

I was thinking the same thing. Where the heck is Adobe in all this? Strange indeed. It does show off Mograph and C4d nicely though. :)

[soccerrprp]

I have to admit, I was also wondering where Adobe fit into all of this. The interface only? Anyway, each and every time that I have loaded the scene, including the first time, it took less than 30-seconds to fully load. Are we considering this kind of time as "forever" nowadays? If so, then it's slow.:) Otherwise, perhaps traffic may have something to do with it?

Funny thing though, I have DSL and at my school we have T1 and it doesn't even load at school. It stops and stalls at 14%.

As for interactivity, the slider allows you to move to various points in the animation. I guess that's the extent of the interactivity.:shrug:

Richard

[AdamT]

Love the animation!

The interface is very weird. Here it fully loads in a reasonable amount of time, but it doesn't auto play. I have to drag the slider doohickey -- then it starts to play on its own. Apparently Adobe's part in this was to screw up what should have been a dead simple streaming video.

[DaveD]

I tried loading it yesterday from work and it literally took about 20 minutes to download. And even then it seemed to stop at the castle.

I tried it again today from home and it does seem to load very quickly. I can see the water start to flow in now but once the bird starts to fly over it crashes.

As you mention, once you drag the slider it begins to play but evidently only to the point where you dragged it. Very odd, pointless and confusing. Come to think of it, it is a pretty good ad for Adobe. ;)

[Suricate]

It's funny that there's currently a competition at the Houdini forum that has this ad as a starting point. So maybe one can get some Houdini related tips how to recreate this animation ...

http://odforce.net/

[LemonNado]

Nice! But am I the only one getting utterly confused about Adobe's product line?
Rainer

[Srek]

I understood it as an add on creativity in general, not any specific Adobe product
Cheers
Björn

[LucentDreams]

it wouldn't all be done inc cinema guys a lot of that stuff just wouldn't make sense to do in 3D as opposed to something like AE.

Yes the 3D structures are likely done all with cinema/mograph, but the queen, and such is likely AE, images for texturing and animation in photoshop etc.

[Rantin Al]

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x164d1b58 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 156364

In my ignorance of interpreting Crash Reports, it looks like the Flash plug-in which is snookering things on the Macs.

There are 10 lines of 'EnforceLocalSecurity' in Thread 0, with the same report for both Safari & FireFox.

:shrug:
Cheers, Alan.

[Yas2eR]

iam wondring too at the same thing !
i think 75% in this work done by maxon cinema ...and there is no thanks to cinema ..to make ppl knows ??

all works . under ( adobe ) ..when first i saw this ( 9 march ) ..there is no credits ... i just thought its AE and FL .. i coudnt belive it



may be
.....there's more coming > maxon and adobe

like ... adobe cinema 4d lol
or more plugins that help .. mograph to grow




....updates..................................
oh ..hey ...did you see the other old ads
adobe ..same interface .. deffrent concepts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-NRdyUx8Lc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvL9UovRVY[/url]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5mwzhUCqkA

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-NRdyUx8Lc"]
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo2iIsBoUwM)

[ooo]

....updates..................................
oh ..hey ...did you see the other old ads
adobe ..same interface .. deffrent concepts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvL9UovRVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo2iIsBoUwM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5mwzhUCqkA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-NRdyUx8Lc

Thanks for the links! So this explains the strange timeline interface! Not exactly meant for the web, but for a movement detection system. very cool!!

odo

[soccerrprp]

Correct me if i'm off here, but the videos don't show a great leap in functionality of the slider, does it? I mean, with the proper HARDWARE, you can get a QT or other video players to respond to movement as well. I guess the difference here is the realtime responsiveness that the ADOBE interface provides, right?

Richard

[LucentDreams]

Very nice!

Anyway the making of can be seen without going to NAB?

Anything like this going to be shown in the power integration tour?

I should point out now that I think of it Dan that at the adobe integration tour we build a simple building and basically do the same sort of effect where the girders and floors build up and the walls sly in as small individual placards assembling the facade of the building.

Nothing liek the start with the deck of cards bending and shuffling etc.

[danb]

I should point out now that I think of it Dan that at the adobe integration tour we build a simple building and basically do the same sort of effect where the girders and floors build up and the walls sly in as small individual placards assembling the facade of the building.

Nothing liek the start with the deck of cards bending and shuffling etc.

Thanks man. Well that's a start. The cards shuffling doesn't seem to be too difficult, its the other stuff like the cards taking shape of another object, that i would like to know. Maybe more on how to morph clones.

Do you have anything like this on cineversity? I guess specifically i would like to know clones moving to shape an object, maybe along a spline/path and have some kind of natural physics effect the movement of the clones. These things i can do in realflow but getting RF to work with c4d is not the most happy marriage.

I have some great ideas for mograph samples for my reel but no idea where to get started on the technical side. Sort of still heavily involved in character animation so not as much time to learn new things. I'm hoping the power integration tour will help in that area because its hands on.

[LucentDreams]

well as I said the building example in the Integration tour is essentially the same thing, its not playing cards just individual flat polygons, but they do assemble a different structure. I'd say its a simple example of this, but its done live in in about 15 minutes.

The entire integration tour will be on Cineveristy as well, much of it already is but sadly not the mograph building part yet. Keep an eye on this project series (this is video one of 8 currently it will grow as the rest of the tour videos go up.) http://www.cineversity.com/tutorials/lesson.asp?tid=1180

[benytone]

Hi Kai (LucentDreams)
what is 2d Switch plugin at Cineveristy, it's a 2d texture morpher?
ps. congrat to your new avatar, after so many years...lol
.

[LucentDreams]

That is andrew runyons custom plugin to change shapes using visual selector. Thnk of it like pose mixer but instead of sliding from one thing to another it literally turns one on and the other off by simple clicking on the buttons in VS. There is also a switch shader.


Thanks yea love these little squirrels and the movies site is finally up so so I can show the image.

[danb]

Thanks Kai. I'll check out cineversity.

What movie are you talking about with the squirells?

[LucentDreams]

I"ll start a new thread I don't want to distract this one from its focus.

[benytone]

I"ll start a new thread I don't want to distract this one from its focus.

but, look similar to this-> Method Studios (http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1193&Itemid=68)
.

[LucentDreams]

well they are CG squirrels how different would you expect them to be? Ours definitely has a shiny coat than theirs.

[HolgerBiebrach]

that is really gorgoeus. So was this all MoGraph and cinema4d. If so it's one of the best advertisements for C4D I've seen. I noticed some dynamics in there as well.

This is a really great piece of work, wonderful concept, beautiful art direction, and technically up there with the best.

all the best

rich


Really perfect Mograph example. Indeed there are some Dynamics in the clip, too. The only thing that i found technically bad is the loop of the Flags...but well. I guess its hard to loop a flag blowing in the wind.

greetings,
Holger

[Horganovski]

Yeah I noticed the flag too but felt bad about mentioning it :)

Lennart of TCAStudios posted a link to a great tutorial video he made over on the C4DCafe the other day on how to loop cloth for exactly this kind of thing. Worth a search, I think the original topic title was something like 'How to loop a flag'.

Cheers,
Brian

[tomglod]

This is truly amazing work..!

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