Texture/Lighting/Render - Character/Env(?) - Urgaffel

[rolhionjs]

0 comment ??? :O :O

Gosh : this thing is really incredible !! your model is really great, and lightning on it : the same ! gosh... i want to see the finish scene !!! :) :)

[Korgath]

Svensk modellering i toppklass!

Ahem, nice model, what are you going to do with it? (Lightning, scene, etc.)

:thumbsup:

[lildragon]

Urg ya punk, lol glad to see you final join the challenges, and with your bot no less :) let's see what you can do :thumbsup:

good luck

cheers

[Dr.Jones]

TEXTURES TEXTURES.

Materials already looks good, but I think some little metal scrath in joins, or somethink would make it even better. It's to clean here, and the main idea of this challenge is texturing

[leigh]

Hejsan Urgaffel. Det model ar mycket cool :D
But man, you have a lot of work ahead of you, and a model like this had loads of potential for REALLY kick ass texturing too!! :D:D
In my opinion, he's a bit too reflective....
If he was mine to texture, I'd make him old and rusted and worn and scratched :p But that's cos I love dirty old things...

[Error323]

This is an Awesome robot!!!!!!!!! Only 1 thing but that's personall... i don't like the head that goes with it :)

[Iguiniz.X.]

Yea maybe the head is a bit undetailed in comprehantion with the rest of the body. But I really like the BOT.
So are you going to make the middle body or are you leaving him like this and in what enviroment are you puting him int?

Well great going.:wavey: :bounce:

[SirManfred]

Men tjena Urgaffel!
Nice to see that you're finally doing something with your old robot ;)
Well... as i have probably said before, it looks excellent!

Good lök!

[Grayson]

Great to see ya here. I can't wait to see this textured!

I'm not gonna ask what he's resting his hand on.... :D

[urgaffel]

Small update. I think I'll just go for wires for the stomach. Constructing a true axis didn't work last time so... Screw it :) Wires are cool

http://pchan.vi2.com/max/robo3.jpg

Detail of the head. I'll redo it some, dunno how much yet.

http://pchan.vi2.com/max/headshot.jpg

That leaves the feet and ankles...

Now for replies:

I have no idea what kind of setting I'll whip up for this d00d, we'll see what I can come up with. Hopefully something that won't take ages to finish ;)

Dr Jones and Leigh: I haven't even started yet. Have to finish modeling first. He's brand new, just out of the factory, hence the relfections ;) I'll dirty him up some and do a before/after pic.

Error, Iquiniz, the head will be dealt with. I just have to figure out in which way. Lots of free-form modeling going on... Not too much sketching lol.

Grayson: It's a... er... an... ah... Kaos knows ;)

*edit: Leigh, your sig is scary. All that's missing are a couple of lensflares. ;)

Large pic of the back of the robot! (http://pchan.vi2.com/max/lildragon.jpg)

*/edit

*edit 2: changed the hed pic. Dunno what to do with the head at the moment, so I'll focus on the feet instead. Any suggestions are welcome :)

*/edit

:wip:

[FabioB]

Hey Urg,

Its me, FabioB (from the mIRC channel). This model looks awesome man, I am giving you 5 stars! Congrats. :D

And good luck...

[iC4]

wow, looks great!

[System404]

very nice. :thumbsup: don't know what you're going to do with textures but it would look very nice if it had weatherd metal (scraps and scratches) I'm a big fan of scraps and scratches(well just look at my April entry challenge and you will know what i mean)

[Mike Pauza]

Nice concept. Reminds me of Iron Man. I have to agree with some others about the head being my least favorite part though.

[parallax]

yeah baby:buttrock: :buttrock:
you know you had to initially take it out off that dusty attik, and do funky stuff with it.
you owe it to CGI :scream:
Make m read up a poem or something ;)

[Koma]

this is a them good robot ,love it:buttrock:

[urgaffel]

And I'm back, with an update!

I worked on the head and this is what became of it:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/head03.jpg

Evil robot approaching :)

I'll post a turntable later... In 10 minutes unless my computer fails me.

*edit: Oh yeah, the textures will probably be banged up later :) For now it's shiny new that's the name of the game. I'll add scratches and dents when I start the serious texturing.

*edit 2:

Turntable of the head, 263Kb, divX 4.12 (http://pchan.vi2.com/max/deleteme3.avi)

Good night for now :)

*edit 3: changed server for the pic, but not the anim.

[blc318]

So is the procedural king going to break open photoshop and paint some textures;) It is looking great Urg and these new colors look awesome:buttrock: :buttrock:

[urgaffel]

I'll hold out as long as possible, but I guess that in the end, I'll have do just that. With some luck I'll have a wacom before this challenge ends tho ;) (payday in t minus four days)

[Gilgamesh]

Wow, man. You really know how to make those procedurals work for you. Great stuff.

[urgaffel]

Last update for a few days:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/pose01.jpg

Will be gone sunday and work on monday so... Monday night at the earliest :)

*edit: changed server for the pic

[leigh]

Looking COOOOOL Urgaffel!!!!! Those new colours have given it a whole new feel :) Very cool! Man, I just can't wait to see some more :D:D

[parallax]

Hey Urgaffel,
why did you have to go and pinch down his visor, i really liked it better before :(
maybe an arc shape would work better then that V-shape..
And this really is a texturing/lighting/rendering challenge, not a modlling one :p

[blc318]

Maybe hes makin two and this is the evil one;)

[urgaffel]

I've saved the old head, don't worry :)

And I have to finish it before I can texture it, hence me modeling like a maniac to finish it and still have some time to texture :)

Btw, there aren't any procedurals in this yet, just a bunch of falloff maps in the visor area to get the cool glowy effect. More to come later... I have to find out a good way to do the feet and add some more bolts all over the damn thing. They look good but are a pain to implement... :annoyed:

I'll see if I can get something done tonight

[OZ]

Hey urgaffel :eek: :eek: Wooo amazing!I agrre what Leigh said about the colors!......great new feel.:thumbsup:

[givetommoney]

i am really liking this urg

keep it coming

[eirenicon]

You know I think it's awesome. It's also... sort of humbling :drool:

[henry]

hmm not sure why but it looks like it just got out of a space movie

heheh keep it up man! :thumbsup:

bye from henry :wavey:

[urgaffel]

Damn, it's hard to do cool feet... I think I got it this time tho :)

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/nufoot.jpg

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/nufoot2.jpg

My intuos 2 should arrive on monday, so I'll hopefully start doing some texturing tests next week.

Cheers

*edit: screenshot of a twisted ankle (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/lild.jpg)

[leigh]

Looking cool, Peter :thumbsup:
Fick du min email, btw?
Umm... one comment, you should try increasing the subdivision amount on your model - it's looking a wee bit blocky....

[Hasch2o]

I think to, something looks weird with the foot!!
dont know what, but blocky is a good expression!!
why does it shine through?? i men, why can i look
through the feet??

I really like the model, but what's wrong with the
pictures?? i just can see the last two!

[Mike Pauza]

I'm not a mech guy, but I had to tell you how sweet you bots curves are. BTW, I'm waiting on my Intuos too.

[urgaffel]

Leigh: Umm... one comment, you should try increasing the subdivision amount on your model - it's looking a wee bit blocky

The blockiness is there because of the complete and utter lack of meshsmooth :) It's not finished yet, so I'm not smoothing it. It'll recieve some more modeling goodness and then I'll ms it and then I'll post it again. I just wanted to show y'all I'm alive and working on this bastard.

About emails, I'm sorry babe, I'm just really slow on replying! *kicks self* I'll try to speed it up. I Promise :love:

Hasch: ...why does it shine through?? i men, why can i look

Because they are jointed :) It'll all be clear when it's done...

The server I hosted the first pics and avis on seems to be down, I copied the images to another one so it should all be fine for now.

[ZrO-1]

urgaffel, dam dude! that is one kick-a$$ robot! :eek:

I really like the mecha styling. And that plasti-cote style texture rocks! I'm doing a robot also, but it's crapy compaired to yours :cry:

Keep up the great work.

[urgaffel]

I love details (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/lild2.jpg)

*edit:

I love details way too much (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/crazy.jpg)

[dutch]

very nice urg

cant wait to see the textures on it

[Koma]

so nice ,really good ,and so smooth he is really beautifull
iam hurry to see him with texture:thumbsup:

[urgaffel]

Since Lildragon didn't believe the foot would actually work, I had to prove it. And here's the proof! ;)

*edit

the proof is updated, check below :)

[lildragon]

yeh yeh, so they work big deal :p

seriously tho excellent job, and btw this is a TEXTURING challenge uh hmm :D

cheers

[urgaffel]

I have to finish the model before I can texture it right? ;)

[lildragon]

this is true, so what are you waiting on :) hehehh

[urgaffel]

Stop forcing me to prove you wrong and I might! ;) Seriously though, I hope I'll be able to finish the feet this weekend, and start unwrapping/texturing on monday/tuesday. So yes, I WILL texture it.

561Kb, divx 4.12, more meshsmooth, back hydraulics fixed (http://pchan.cgworks.com/_scene.avi)

[urgaffel]

F*ckarseshitpiss... I've talked to the "wonderful" company that were supposed to deliver my wacom... When I ordered it, it said on their site that they were recieving a shipment the same day (wednesday). When I phone and talk to them monday, they say "no, we don't have that in stock at the moment..." ARGH... Idiots...

Anyway. I think I'll use this as an environment for the robot:

3.1Mb divx avi (http://www.pchan.vi2.com/max/chair004_1.avi)

1.1Mb divx avi (http://www.pchan.vi2.com/max/chair004_2.avi)

Same avi, just different quality/size :)

I'll see if I can find a few pics somewhere, I'll edit this post when I do.

Texturing will come... Finished the foot now, I'm just adding the last few bolts to the legs, then it's on to unwrapping (the boring part of the challenge) :)

*edit 1: not the environemnt, but the finished feet :)

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/feety.jpg

Now to find the env-pics...

*edit 2: Found 'em

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/chair01.jpg

closer... (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/chair02.jpg)

*Last edit, I swear!

Full bodyshot (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/full.jpg)

:)

[ambient-whisper]

i think he would look cooler with larger feet :/

[dutch]

coool
keep it up erg

[edaddy]

:buttrock: the legs are the coolest robot legs i've seen in awhile...and lord knows people in 3-D see alot of robots :rolleyes:

[urgaffel]

Aw: something like this?

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/full_tweak_2.jpg

(This is just a quick fix...)

[Thoth]

I think the first time i saw this one was when you posted it onto 3d artwork section here on CGtalk ( i might be wrong tho) and it's awsome as it was then. well ..even more with those little tweaks and fixes :)

[urgaffel]

Just to prove once and for all that lildragon is correct in calling me insane:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/hand.jpg

I LOVE DETAIL!

[givetommoney]

he's tall, give him a basketball

[SeanW]

Looks awesome so far, great job on the design. It looks like everything can twist and turn the way it should. To me though I would play with the size of the hands, they are so beautiful you should make them bigger :buttrock:

[urgaffel]

Here's a little teaser of what you can expect...

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/teaser.jpg

I just put it in the scene, no tweaking or anything. So it'll improve, I promise

:wip:

the stats for the render for those who are interested (http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/Shot9.jpg)

[Dr.Jones]

lightning is good, but there is still some texture missing

[leigh]

Looking cool! :applause:

[ambient-whisper]

yah man. where is the texture ?

[Hasch2o]

I really like your Bot, especially the first
pic with the "golden-coloured" metall!!!
(or which colour is it???)

I like the idea with the Basketball ;)

No the environment looks awesome
too!! what i especially like is the "face"

How will u texture it??? I hope it wont
be rusty!! wouldn't fit too well!!

greetz
H-2-O

[urgaffel]

Textures? What are y'all babbling about, wasn't this a modeling challenge? ;)

[urgaffel]

No robot is complete without a secret weapon! Thus, I present to you, the impaler...

Enjoy:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/blade2.jpg

Thought of it during a bad day at work. Imagine being held by that large hand and then getting pierced by that.

He can hold you with one hand, while the other sneaks down to your belly and he guts you like a fish!

(sorry, I'm in a weird mood ;))

[dies-irae]

i love it!!

there's something about the shoulders region that doesnt convince me completely kind of width/height proportion... but hey! it's just a tought!!! :shrug:

the hands and the legs are some of the best robot-thingies i ever saw!

i loved the mood of the proto-compositing!

funny idea the impaler!! :D:D

now, some textures?! actually i like it the way it is, but if you can do magics... DO MAGICS!!! :buttrock:

[urgaffel]

And I've started texturing:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/armtexture01.jpg

Suggestions on colours are more than welcome :)

[givetommoney]

what's this? urg actually texturing something?

looks good so far, maybe make it more rustier where the paint's been removed

[urgaffel]

Yes I know, shocking, isn't it? ;)

*edit:

seems to work pretty good with the env I had in mind:

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/fukkyeah.jpg

[dies-irae]

awesome!

i like the direction you toke for the texturing, it keeps the "clean" material while adding a lot of detail! I love the way it renders in the env pic!

may i ask how long are your render times?

[Hasch2o]

I love the "Danger" Sign :) how about a skull
there? :) No, really awesome product!!!

How long do you need to finish him??

I will see the final movie :)

Greetz H-2-O

[luigi]

your textures are going grate and grate.

congratulations.

i think if inside the cracks you make the borders white or light you could have a great result.
the oxid of hte cracks have a ot of intensity variation of light to dark.



I normally texture ,affter rining and last lighting.


You texture the last? why you do it?

can you explain your method please.

for my is imposible to change uvw after rining and skin....

I use max 4.2

If anyone have another method

please explain it

[rolhionjs]

Wow !! your textures are great !!! :) :) It's awesome !

i hope to see the following soon :)

[leigh]

WA-HEY-HEY!!! Det ar mycket cool Pete!! Jag ar lycklig att du gjorde bitmaps :p
Awesome so far!! Update!!!!

[urgaffel]

Heya! Glad y'all like it, it means I can go on and unwrap the rest :bounce:

And now for the bad news: I'll be gone for the weekend, leaving early saturday morning, coming home again early sunday morning. Going on a 24hr cruise to Åbo/Turku, paid by my employers. All the guys at work are going :) (the swedes and finnish people know what I'm talking about :beer: )

Anyway, I've tweaked it some more... This will be the last render of the arm. Next render will be of the whole upper body (I hope)

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/armtexture04.jpg

*edit:

here's the texture sheet...

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/textures.jpg

Clockwise from top left: mask for the metal/paint, diffuse, bump and specular

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/wiresheet.jpg

See y'all later with more bodyparts textured:)

[Gilgamesh]

looks good. Although, I would expect the scored part to be less specular than you have it. You know the tears. They are really shiny.
Also, just an idea: you could raise the "DANGER" decal up a little in the bump map to make it actually look like it is a sticker that had been stuck on. And alter it's specularity slightly from the metal surrounding it. And, there you have it.

[Putois_Blagueur]

I loved your first model.....
you've gone in a very different way, applying old and scratched textures. It's a good idea but you don't seem to know how scratches are made.:p
Of course, i say that but i would be unable to to such a thing. When you look around in reality, you see that scratches are made on the parts of an object that are in relief. I mean that the painting of an object is damaged where there are a lot of frictions. But on your model, the painting is damaged in the grooves.:thumbsdow But your main scratch is very good:thumbsup: You should damage the painting on the top of each model. Look at this picture below....

Your robot is really perfect !

[urgaffel]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm almost done unwrapping the upper body, will start texturing it asap. I might actually be able to finish this one...

As for the grooves, it's a different material underneath, that's why it's darker. It's not damaged.

Back later with an update (I hope)

[l_farley13_l]

Looking really nice! I agree with some of the others though, a slightly different spec on the under metal will distigush it from the top metal. Plus when you think about it, it should be a bit rougher- I mean thats where something dug into it right ?

Just a little ibt more spec breakup and maybe a hint of a grunge map to add a bit more complexity would be cool too :)

Farley13

[urgaffel]

I'll try and finish it until the 15th, but I'm leaving ealry tomorrow morning on a 24h cruise, will be back early sunday morning. Then it's work on monday as usual. At least my wacom has arrived :)

Will play more with specular and gloss maps... Wish me luck. I'll do as much as possible. At least the upper body is unwrapped... Only some tweaks left on the thighs and I can start on the legs...

It's a million to one chance... But it just might work ;)

[urgaffel]

God I hate UvMapping...

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/ihatemapping.jpg

[Gilgamesh]

Ooooh! It's the picnic blanket robot! I think you should keep him like that. :)

[leigh]

:eek: :eek:

Ummmmm that's truly bizarre....
yet....
.....kinda cool in a weird way :p
heheheheh
Does he work in an Italian restaurant now? ;)

[Thoth]

hey, i'm glad you made it alive from the cruise .....in a way uvmapping should be like no big deal compared to that :thumbsup:

the earlier textures you posted seemed great ...simple but still just enough detailed.

keep it up...

[urgaffel]

Small tweaked update. I know it's only the arn, but I'm trying to establish a method so that the rest of the textures will be fast and (fairly) painless ;)

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/armtexture05.jpg

Still working on the specular issue...

[urgaffel]

OMG! more textures ;)

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/torso01-f.jpg

http://pchan.cgworks.com/max/torso01-b.jpg

Thanks go to Happydude for the inspiration on the decals ;)

(only diffuse map in this one. More to come, as always)

[luigi]

go go go go go gog o

your material is going better and better

like to see how detailed is it.

waiting the final image update

:thumbsup:

[MDB101]

Awesome man! good robotics too! looks like it can actualy walk and work functionaly! heres one of my sujestions! for the texturing. keep it the way it is..and if its gunna look like an old warn out model..I would add chipped paint around the joints and bolt areas..cause in most cases thats where they will be :) good work man!

[leigh]

:applause: :applause:
Looking fabulous Urg!!! I love the scratches :drool:
Keep it up!! I'm really looking forward to seeing the thing all nice and finished!!!

[timovihola]

Finally got the time to comment your challenge and I must say that it's coming along very nicely!

This seems to be one of those scenes which can be made almost entirely by lighting if needed, because the model is so detailed. Of course textures never hurt, but diffuse, bump and specular maps should be enough if you're using very stong keylight (volumetric if possible, 'cause dust particles in the air casting long shadows would look awesome haha) from above and hiding as many places as possible in shadow. Showing something and leaving something out are both as important things. Hmm, am I making myself clear.. I do an overpaint so you can see clearly what I mean....


http://www.mbnet.fi/~badgers/robo_light.jpg


ok, done! it took a while :) Notice how the mainlight above casts strong shadows below everything and lights the top side, local contrast stays relatively high so it gives a nice definition between the bodyparts. I made the pose look a bit more relaxed and added more weight. There's also some bouncelight reflecting from the floor and changed the camera angle a bit.

btw. If you want to see well done specular map for metal check out www.rustboy.com , you can see the textures on the "making of" section (number 2).

[urgaffel]

Waaah... Stupid max crashed just before I was going to render a final pic for submission. And then I had to run to the boat. Oh well.. I'll keep working on this :)

Next time...

Timo, thanks! I'll keep it in mind. Rustboy rocks... :)

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