still: ***Fender Telecaster (Guitar)***

[demo38]

Very nice! Proportions look perfect. I was never a fan of the green... But, you've done it justice!

[AroundTheFur]

the body on that is much easier to do than an sg, i think i did a good job! animation is in here somewhere

[Entangle]

Its amazing that people take time on work and it never gets comments, yet when someone posts something stupid like a hdri'd sphere, they get hords of replies. Maybe I should just make a box and stick a guitar map on it.

[TuLe]

Nice model Entangle... and nice choose too!

As a guitar player myself i must say this is a classic guitar that can produce the most melodic licks ever... A bluesman dream for sure!

Nice Telecaster there... Love the color to... Green with the white shild made a beautifull and yet classic combination!

Congrats my friend!

[drewbie]

You wanted replies, so here's my list of things...

-The fifth fret looks smaller than the sixth and the eigth fret looks smaller than the ninth and your eighteenth fret is too big.

-Also on my tele, the curve of the neck on the bottom ended where it met the body--yours ends before it meets the body. Mine was also a more gradual curve, yours is pretty harsh. I'm not sure if that's the case for all tele's or not.

-My tele also had two more screws in the pick guard, one on the top, and one right below where the neck fits in the body.

-You should also look at cleaning up the area where the neck and body meet. You have gaps there and the guitars are fitted pretty tightly in that area.

-Oh, and you don't have any adjustment screws for your neck pickup.

-There also looks like a slight dip in the side of the guitar near the back, below the strap hook.

-The sides of the volume/tone knobs look too smooth as well. Those are very bumpy, and the reflections look too clean on yours. I see that your model has the bumps modeled, so it may just be the distance from the camera that fuddles that up.

-Mine also had the metal plate for the volume/tone knobs at the same height as the pickguard if I remember correctly. Yours has a very thin plate.

-My tele also had the writing straight across the head, parallel to the neck. It was also where the string guide on the head was positioned. The guide was closer to the neck, between the second and third tuning head, so the strings were bent properly. The writing could be different for all teles for all I know, but I would think the guide would be closer to the neck, regardless.

-Another thing I noticed is that the upper part of the body above the neck doesn't curve back before it curves out to where the strap hook is located. All the ones I've seen have done this. Yours seems to just go straight to the hook, but it might just be the angle of the shot. :shrug:

-Just noticed one more thing... the pickguard should extend more below the neck. The body should end around the beginning of the 21st fret on the bottom of the neck. Yours ends too close to the end of the neck.

I'd also look at putting some sort of environment map in there. The reflections look a bit plain as it is. It's a good model, and that's all I can see right now that doesn't look right. Nice work. :)

[Entangle]

Thanks for the reply. Everything should be right though, as I used a official fender blue print for ref and lining up. Some of the test renders are older and the model had since been updated since then, for example the tone volume plate has risen.

This was one reference used http://www.elderly.com/fmic/items/FAT-CHR-MPL.htm, but also there were other yeared models used for reference, so thats why the model differs in parts.

[drewbie]

Most of the things I pointed out show up in those images, with the exception of where the curve on the bottom of the neck ends. I'm probably wrong about that since I'm going from memory.

The frets really look off... if it's a standard tele with a 25.5" scale, they should be spaced as follows (in inches)...

Fret || Interval || To Bridge
=======================
1 || 1.431 || -
2 || 1.351 || -
3 || 1.275 || -
4 || 1.203 || -
5 || 1.136 || -
6 || 1.072 || -
7 || 1.012 || -
8 || 0.955 || -
9 || 0.901 || -
10 || 0.851 || -
11 || 0.803 || -
12 || 0.758 || 12.750
13 || 0.715 || 12.034
14 || 0.675 || 11.359
15 || 0.637 || 10.721
16 || 0.602 || 10.119
17 || 0.567 || 9.552
18 || 0.536 || 9.015
19 || 0.506 || 8.509
20 || 0.478 || 8.031
21 || 0.451 || 7.581
======================
You get these by dividing the scale of your neck by 17.817, which gives you the size of the fret. Then subtract that amount from the scale and divide that amount by 17.817 to get the next, and subtract again, so on and so forth. This would be much more precise than using a guide.

I also decided to mock up a quick image so I could illustrate the things I'm talking about better. The page of images you linked to should back these up as well.

[Entangle]

hehe, now thats what I call a decent crit. Thankyou.

By the way, did you by any chance post on maxforums about the frets?

[drewbie]

Don't think so. :) I think I posted something about the body on the strat you made.

[xynaria]

I don't know Tele's other than that distinctive sound so well, but on first glance it looks basically like a good model to me, though I find it hard not to go with most of Drebies well spotted notes, now he's pointed them out. Drewbie.. your crits are great..if I ever get finished on the models of my Jag and Jazzmaster I hope you look at them..one thing though.. the necks on both of those curve out to the flat bottom before they meet with the body.. don't know if that's cos they would normally or cos they are both re-issues. Might that be the same with Teles? :)
:beer:

[drewbie]

Yeah, I'm probably wrong about the back of the neck flattening at the body, I was looking for pictures of my tele, but I have no clear ones of the back, and I sold it a year ago. :sad: The thing I'm most curious about is the angle it goes at along the edge.. it looks really sharp, and on the back of the tele in those pics, you can see that it's fairly smooth in the transition. It may be due to the angle the camera is at, but it looks that way. Anyway, it's still a great model. :)

xynaria: I'd be glad to crit when you're done. :)

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