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Mistyk
05-04-2003, 04:14 PM
Is it likely that there will be a Quadro line based on the soon to come NV35? Or will the NV35 solely be a replacement for the not so successful high-end gaming version of the NV30?

Considering that the QuadroFX line appears rather successful and that workstation card cycles might be longer than gaming card cycles, perhaps there will be no NV35 Quadros. Do you have any rumors or inside information on the matter?

Probably far too early to tell, but do you think that the "medium" version of the potentially upcoming Quadros, i.e. the card whose price point corresponds to that of the QuadroFX 1000 today, will have any _dual-link_ DVI connectors? It would be sad if only the high-end version had dual-link DVI.

Thank you in advance!

MaDSheeP
05-04-2003, 04:30 PM
it looks like they put a lot of work into the QuadroFX cards.. soo...

i wouldn't think they would scrap that line just yet.. possibly make a faster version of the FX quadros... but i couldn't see them making money off of this line of cards, if they put R&D into the next set of cards right away

just a thought =)

Mistyk
05-04-2003, 04:34 PM
True. Thanks for your reply MaDSheeP!

plastic
05-04-2003, 05:22 PM
http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=12069&mode=thread&order=0

"There will be a professional version of NV35 – code named NV35GL – and its name will be Quadro FX 3000. "

Mistyk
05-04-2003, 05:30 PM
Awesome, thank you for the link plastic!

Hopefully it will not be more expensive than the QFX 2000 is today.

elvis
05-05-2003, 03:51 AM
nv35 launch date is supposedly at E3:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9174

although nvidia has gained a bad habit of paper releases of late, which displeases me greatly.

MaDSheeP
05-05-2003, 04:17 AM
i'm just waiting for the 980XGL's to drop below $450 range... perhaps i will pick one up before then, but i need a point to wait for ;)

are they still printing the 980XGL's? i bet they are.. but it wouldn't suprise me if they stopped production on anything other than their latest cards

Mistyk
05-06-2003, 05:39 PM
Thanks elvis!

CgFX
05-06-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by elvis
nv35 launch date is supposedly at E3:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9174

although nvidia has gained a bad habit of paper releases of late, which displeases me greatly.

How was 980 xgl a paper release?

How was fx 1000/fx 2000 paper releases?

elvis
05-06-2003, 10:40 PM
the nv30 technology was "released" late november last year. that included both the nv30 and nv30gl (geforceFX amd QuadroFX). neither appeared until late february (march here for us aussies).

that to me is a paper release, plain and simple. ATi and NVIDIA have done it for their latest hardware releases just to get the announcment out first. in their bid to outdo each other they only piss their customers off.

my concern is that E3 will be the "release" of the nv35 and nv35GL, either of which we won't see until september. if i'm wrong, then i'm happy. and i do hope i'm wrong.

Bradf0rd010
05-07-2003, 12:03 AM
Actually, NV30GL wasn't really (paper) launced with the NV30.
I know because I was there and was the only one asking where the Quadro FX was ;)

CgFX
05-07-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by elvis
the nv30 technology was "released" late november last year. that included both the nv30 and nv30gl (geforceFX amd QuadroFX). neither appeared until late february (march here for us aussies).


NV30GL was not announced in November. NV30 was announced in November when GeForce FX 5800 was announced at GameDev Conference.

NV30GL was announced when the Quadro FX 2000 and FX 1000 were announced which was February at a CAD show (Solidworks?). Both Quadro products were available at that time (and we received an eval card the next week or so).

There was no such thing as a "NV30 technology" release. They launched a product (GeForce FX) in Nov based on the Nv30 chip (LONG before it ever showed up). That was truely a paper release.

None of the Quadro releases have been paper that I can recall and the recent FX 2000/1000 launches based on the NV30GL chip were not.

loop29
05-07-2003, 08:57 AM
Search german hardware vendors which sell professional adapters and tell me if you can find any QuadroFX for whatever price for the average consumer. Average consumer is for me searching web stores not too far away (US or Asia) or local hardware vendors where I can buy a piece of hardware that I want to use for my work.

regards


upgrade: I found just one now, this was not the case 2 weeks ago. We all know that there was a shortage of GPU´s for NV30/NV30GL and I can comprehend that it maybe was difficult with the problems nvidia faced with GPU and TSMC in production pipe to bring enough chips to the market. But however, they should be taking care of that fact and don´t run down their marketing strategy with introducing every half a year a new GPU. For me it sounds like being afraid of loosing stock value and not taking car of customers needs !!

elvis
05-12-2003, 10:34 PM
well, the NV35 was announced today:
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900

the geforceFX 5900 and 5900 ultra.

i might go out and buy one today... oh wait, i can't.... BECAUSE IT'S A PAPER RELEASE!!!

reviews everywhere, but no cards for sale. gee... haven't seen that before, have we?

raz-0
05-12-2003, 10:51 PM
yes elvis, but unlike the paper release of the nv30 parts, pretty much all the major review sites have the hardware in hand and have for a bit now. This wasn't the case with the 5800 ultra release, and would generally indicate it is NOT a paper release... unless you make video cards out of paper. Which if you do, is a cool trick.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1075337,00.asp
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030512/index.html
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1821
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDcy



I love how every person on a web forum seems to think a company like nvidia can't tell when it has screwed up and might not want to repeat such a thing.


bonus doomIII benchmarks on the 5900 ultra 256 and 9800pro 256

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0

elvis
05-13-2003, 04:33 AM
well, it's mid may and the cards won't be available to consumers until at least june.

by the time it ships to australia i'm looking at august/september.

acidboy
05-13-2003, 08:38 AM
Yeah drives me nuts, I was just about to buy a new computer with a Quadro FX card.

Then along comes Nvidia's anouncement of the NV35 and the possibility of a new line of Quadros very soon.

I'd love to know if and when they are going to release the NV35 Quadro. But as before they'll probably hold off on that anouncement for awhile :annoyed:

raz-0
05-13-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by elvis
well, it's mid may and the cards won't be available to consumers until at least june.

by the time it ships to australia i'm looking at august/september.

Well that's a whole different bitch than it being a paper launch. 90 days from press samples to having it in your hot little hands isn't that bad by industry standards, but I can sympathize with not being able to get something neat other parts of the world have already.

CgFX
05-16-2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by elvis
well, the NV35 was announced today:
http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=fx_5900

the geforceFX 5900 and 5900 ultra.

i might go out and buy one today... oh wait, i can't.... BECAUSE IT'S A PAPER RELEASE!!!

reviews everywhere, but no cards for sale. gee... haven't seen that before, have we?

As I said before, the GeForce/consumer group may do paper releases but I have not seen workstation paper releases. Notice that there was no announcement of a nv35gl product.

Mistyk
05-16-2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by CgFX
Notice that there was no announcement of a nv35gl product.
Actually the new GeforceFX uses the nv35gl GPU :). But I assume you meant that there was no announcement of the Quadro FX 3000?

athosghost
05-16-2003, 06:20 PM
Nvidia's workstation lines where deffinately not as bad as the 5800 fubar. Finding a 5800 ultra or non ultra is still harder than hell. But I don't think we're going to see the same problem with the 5900 since they've straitend out that whole tsmc fiasco.

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